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The question isn’t the Pats at all to me. If he has any gas in the tank at all, Evans/Godwin/Howard/[insert random white wr here] combine for like 35-40 TDs and they boom. Pretty talented skill group, best he’s had in over a decade. I know nothing of their o-line, but I’m curious to hear about them from a homer.
It is not totally out of the question that Stidham clicked better with the receivers last year than with Brady. It’s possible he took more total snaps in practice than Brady did. It’s also possible Brady didn’t want to be in NE for quite a while, wanted out, and his heart wasn’t in it. The playbook gets expanded with Stidham playing just based on Brady’s lack of mobility (although it is an unknown how well he will do).
I believe PFF had the Bucs Oline as 7th best in the league last year. Perception that they aren’t good probably has a lot to do with previous years. They’ll protect Brady fine, especially considering how he gets the ball out.
Zero chance the nfl owners don’t play the season. They’ll have backup plans on backup plans as they’ll have time to prepare. These owners are straight money hungry evil and they will get theirs.
Like I said, we’ll have to see how things shape up when the teams get on the field (fingers crossed). The Pats OL got called out for being horrid, but they ranked a spot in front of or behind the Bucs. They had a lot of injuries the first half of the year but were stellar over the second half (when Brady’s numbers were at their worst). The narrative that Brady had no protection and no time to throw was not reflected in the OL rankings. Similarly, the other excuse given was that his receivers couldn’t get open. But individual receiver stats on separation didn’t show that either. Guys were getting open; but Brady had tunnel vision on Edelman. NE officially had a lot of drops, but Brady usually threw the ball low and some throws hit guys in the hands but a foot off the ground. Bottom line, the passing game didn’t click in NE last year. Who knows what that portends for Tampa.
As I mentioned in one of the other virus threads; MLB, NBA, and NHL owners are just as money hungry. It may get to the point where football and baseball are competing to play in the same stadiums.
I've thought of this, but I think we fall somewhere in between each other on the scale of good/grace<--------------------------------------->evil as to where NFL owners sit. They can't play if the virus won't let them. Or they'll try, but the proverbial Moms will come outside like always, calling the boys home for safety and dinner.
I don’t see any way Hoyer is starting unless Stidham gets hurt or fails miserably (which I doubt happens): But you are right that this team will be based on pitching and defense and not three run home runs over the green monster.
Stidham's job to lose hence they signed Hoyer and not someone else with a better arm.
Those sports got caught when the corona was just coming out. Can’t really compare the two situations. Nfl has a 6-month head start to plan. And they have more money so they’ll resolve stadium issues that way if needed. Unless they have to play remotely through I don’t know why that would matter — nfl teams own all their stadiums for the most part.
Bucs ended up giving up 116 points off of Jameis turnovers. Over 7 a game. Basically went into every game down 7-0
I agree with this. People couldnt understand why Brady wasnt happy when they were 10-1 or whatever their record was. I think others refuse to believe what Brady knows. He has lost a couple of steps in the past two seasons. However, as I stated up-thread, Brady is addition by subtraction in comparison to Winston.
BB will not tank. If that were the plan, he would quit. I have seen this thought several other places and it's not going to happen. Their defense will be just as good, the offense will be on par or better than they were with Brady, and they will probably win 10 games and be a playoff team. And in 2021 they will be in the hunt again all over again, given that they have 12 draft picks in 2020, are projected to have 13 draft picks in 2021, and the are projected to have $105 million in cap space for 2021. Sure, the Pats defense was overrated based on the first half of the season last year, but in their final 8 games they were still 8th or 9th in points allowed.
I’m no Jameis fan but I don’t see it being a huge upgrade. Father Time has never lost.
My objectivity radar could be coming down with a case of the corona virus, but I'm detecting that you're not the most impartial individual on this matter.
They still have the best coach and cap manager there's ever been in the salary cap era. Wait until Stidham does better with the alleged flotsam and jetsam that Brady whined about all year. The NE offense had A TON of injuries last year. Brady was part of the problem, not part of the solution. Their pass defense will still be at the top of the food chain.
I am not impartial, but I also have 20 years of BB's decision-making and outcomes to fall back on. BB has replaced people every year across every position imaginable (besides QB) and the beat has gone on. After coaching for 45 years and going to 12 Super Bowls, has Bill suddenly forgotten how to coach and manage the salary cap because his 43-year-old QB has moved on?My objectivity radar could be coming down with a case of the corona virus, but I'm detecting that you're not the most impartial individual on this matter.
This year is gonna be different.
Reminds me of the Spurs. 20 straight playoff years. 18 straight years of 50 or more wins. Just unheard of consistent greatness in the salary cap era. One of the greatest coaches of all times. One of the greatest cornerstone players of all time. Still a good team. Still sniffing the playoffs. Nowhere near as dominant as they were when that great player was still on the team. I'll take the Bucs this year.
We'll have to wait and see, but the assumption that Tampa got better and New England got worse based solely on Brady switching jerseys may not be a given. It's possible NE upgraded at QB and Tampa did not get as better as some people are suggesting by adding Brady. Certainly there is no way to prove or disprove that on either side at this point. We can revisit later.This year is gonna be different.
I get what you are suggesting, but there are a lot of components to this that are far from a given. For starters, most people are taking the position that Brady is healthy, plays better with better weapons, and gets a full 16-game season in with decent Brady-level production from earlier in his career.
Wow you've quickly pivoted away from Tommy Boy.
They still have the best coach and cap manager there's ever been in the salary cap era. Wait until Stidham does better with the alleged flotsam and jetsam that Brady whined about all year. The NE offense had A TON of injuries last year. Brady was part of the problem, not part of the solution. Their pass defense will still be at the top of the food chain.
They have the opportunity to do just that.
He gets rid of the ball quickly. Look for Godwin to eat and eat well.
Go and read my comments in the Brady thread or Patriots thread. I have said all off season NE would be better off without Brady. I caught grief from Patriot fans when I suggested Brady was a problem last year and his lack of participation the last couple of years and his unwillingness to work with new players hurt the team.
You also blamed the Pats weapons for Brady being "bad" last year and now you've shifted it to him whining about his lack of weapons and how Stidham will do better with them - when you claimed that all QBs would have struggled with the weapons Brady had last season.
Yes, I bought into the initial narrative that: 1) the offense lacked weapons, 2) the OL was bad, and 3) the receivers didn't get open. However, over time, rankings came out that showed the OL was actually decent and was excellent over the second half. Numbers came out that showed the receivers actually were getting open. And looking closer at Brady's numbers down the stretch, he wasn't very good. Others made compelling arguments that Brady's numbers were far more likely to decline than improve as he continued to get even older.
Who is saying these things? Granted, I don't scour the internet or talk radio looking to back up my hyperbole but I haven't seen one of the bolded predicted.
Skip Bayless said on his show that TB is winning 12+ games and going to the next two SB's. Sure, I get it, it's Skip Bayless and he gets paid to get clicks and viewers for his hot takes. A lot of what I have been seeing / hearing / reading has been general discussion on talk shows or comments by people online. It's out there if people want to look for it. I mostly laugh than take copious notes of who said what and where . . . it won't change the outcome of any games once we get there.
To my knowledge, there's no actual sharing of stadia anymore between MLB and NFL teams. The closest you have is KC where Arrowhead and Royals stadium sharing a parking lot.
