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Muslims in NYC Planning to Build Second Mosque Near Ground Zero (1 Viewer)

Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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Just a couple of Beck's followers restoring America's honor.
 
mad sweeney said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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Just a couple of Beck's followers restoring America's honor.
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I think some of the people in here would call them the 'real Americans'

 
mad sweeney said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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Just a couple of Beck's followers restoring America's honor.
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yep.. arson NEVER happens in America.. ever been to Detroit? they burn stuff every day..
 
Are you off your meds?

so we are both jumping to conclusions?

:)

right back at ya.. now go finish that beautiful uke you were building!! (or is it finished?)..

 
Parrothead said:
mad sweeney said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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yep.. arson NEVER happens in America.. ever been to Detroit? they burn stuff every day..
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Of course it does. So does stabbing and urinary vandalism and spray paint vandalism. It's probably only coincidence all this is being done to Muslims, especially coincidental with the spray painted signs telling them to go home in the midst of Islam Hysteria. Fox News should be proud that their anti Muslim frenzy they've helped whip up is taking the next step into physical retaliation. Then they can demonize Muslims more when they strike back against unrelated white Americans using the same "logic" of every American being guilty of the crimes against them.
 
The FBI definition of terrorism is:

The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
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The torched overcrowded Islamic center in Murfreesboro, Tennessee that was trying to expand can appropriately be called "terrorism".the GOP along with Fox News has done its job.

Well done, gentlemen, well done.

 
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Police ask Jacksonville community to help catch mosque bomber

FBI says it was hoping for more tips after release of video.

Posted: May 12, 2010 - 3:24pm

By Larry Hannan

A day after releasing security video of the man suspected of firebombing a Jacksonville mosque, law enforcement officials acknowledged they had not gotten nearly as many calls as they expected.

“Someone out there knows who this person is,” said FBI Special Agent-in-Charge Jim Casey of Jacksonville office. “Anyone who recognizes this individual needs to contact us.”

Casey declined to reveal how many calls the FBI has gotten.

Authorities found remnants of a crude pipe bomb in the explosion, which occurred about 9:30 p.m. Monday at the Islamic Center of Northeast Florida on St. Johns Bluff Road.

“This was not a harmless prank,” Casey said. “We found shrapnel from the blast a hundred yards away close to [Florida] 9A.”

At the time of the blast about 60 people were inside. The firebomb caused minor damage to the building. There were no injuries.

Casey said the minor damage was primarily due to the strength of the mosque building. If anyone had been closer to the blast, they would have been injured or killed, he said.

The video has been sent to the main FBI office in Quantico, Va., to be run for facial analysis along with video of another incident on April 4. The April disturbance occurred when a man entered the center and shouted “Stop this blaspheming,” before people chased him away. He’s also wanted for questioning although authorities say they don’ think it’s the same man in Monday’s video.

Officials with the FBI, Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office, U.S. Attorney’s Office and Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms said they were following several leads in the case. But they declined to discuss those leads or speculate on a motive.

The case is being investigated as a possible hate crime on suspicion of domestic terrorism. The perpetrator also could face civil rights charges. Kevin Frein with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Jacksonville said it is difficult to say exactly what charges until more is known about the motive.

Authorities said it was unclear if the bombing had anything to do with the recent controversy over Parvez Ahmed’s appointment to the Jacksonville Human Rights Commission. Ahmed, who is Muslim, attends the center.

Lt. Mike Williams with the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office Homeland Security Division said there is no evidence that hate groups in North Florida are behind this.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-05...le-mosque-blast
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This happened back in May, and I'd really be surprised if more than a handful of people here heard about it. This kind of #### is domestic terrorism, and it's barely mentioned. meanwhile, an Arab-looking guy farts at an airport and the whole country shuts down.

 
badmojo1006 said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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I'm trying really hard to be surprised that this is the road we are heading down. When people start dying over this, will the fear-mongers realize that inciting hate isn't worth their ratings? I doubt it.
 
badmojo1006 said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed to CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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Gun shots heard around the mosque (and not hunting rifles).
 
ScottyFargo said:
DrJ said:
badmojo1006 said:
9/11 Christians plan church two blocks from Ground Zero
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A bigoted pastor...
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:goodposting: And in related news...

Bigot starts ground zero church
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This stuff is just too funny. I haven't seen this word tossed around so much since I used to watch All In The Family.
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I'm sure he's glad you're vouching for him.
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Vouching for what? That liberals love to call people bigots, it's basically their new catch phrase?
 
Desert_Power said:
badmojo1006 said:
Radio Free Homer said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/28/...in6814690.shtml



Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

Construction Equipment at Site of Planned Islamic Center Torched; Vocal Protests Against Mosque Have Been Ongoing

(CBS/AP) Updated at 9:25 p.m. ET

Federal officials are investigating a fire that started overnight at the site of a new Islamic center in a Nashville suburb.

Ben Goodwin of the Rutherford County Sheriff's Department confirmed t

o CBS Affiliate WTVF that the fire, which burned construction equipment at the future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, is being ruled as arson.

Special Agent Andy Anderson of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told CBS News that the fire destroyed one piece of construction equipment and damaged three others. Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire, Anderson said.

The ATF, FBI and Rutherford County Sheriff's Office are conducting a joint investigation into the fire, Anderson said.

WTVF reports firefighters were alerted by a passerby who saw flames at the site. One large earth hauler was set on fire before the suspect or suspects left the scene.

The chair of the center's planning committee, Essim Fathy, said he drove to the site at around 5:30 a.m. Saturday morning after he was contacted by the sheriff's department.

"Our people and community are so worried of what else can happen," said Fathy. "They are so scared."

The fire was smoldering by the time Fathy and the center's imam, Ossama Bahloul, had arrived. Fathy was told that responders had smelled gasoline near the fire.

Fathy was later contacted by members of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, who told him the incident was under investigation and to remain calm.

Digging had begun at the site, which was planned as a place of worship for the approximately 250 Muslim families in the Murfreesboro area, but no structure had been built yet, according to Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

"This is a shock," said Sbenaty. "We've had small act of vandals. But this is going to be a crime and whoever did it, they should be punished to the full extent of the law."

The center had operated for years out of a small business suite. Planning members said the new building, which was being constructed next to a church, would help accommodate the area's growing Muslim community.

"We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center," said Sbenaty.

Opponents of a new Islamic center say they believe the mosque will be more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government.

"They are not a religion. They are a political, militaristic group," Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Shelton was among several hundred demonstrators who recently wore "Vote for Jesus" T-shirts and carried signs that said "No Sharia law for USA!," referring to the Islamic code of law.

Others took their opposition further, spray painting a sign announcing the "Future site of the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro" and tearing it up.

Earlier this summer opponents criticized the planned mosque at hearings held by the Rutherford County Commission, as supporters held prayer vigils.

At one such prayer vigil, WTVF reported opponents speaking out against construction.

"No mosque in Murfreesboro. I don't want it. I don't want them here," Evy Summers said to WTVF. "Go start their own country overseas somewhere. This is a Christian country. It was based on Christianity."
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How soon before somebody is killed
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I'm trying really hard to be surprised that this is the road we are heading down. When people start dying over this, will the fear-mongers realize that inciting hate isn't worth their ratings? I doubt it.
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The sad part is that some innocent Muslim is going to get killed. That cabbie in NY is very lucky he's still alive and now this ugly story. And, sadly, I don't think a death would cause some of these radio and TV personalities to rein it in. In their world, ratings are everything and higher ratings usually come by pushing the envelope.
 
DrJ said:
badmojo1006 said:
9/11 Christians plan church two blocks from Ground Zero
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A bigoted pastor...
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:goodposting: And in related news...

Bigot starts ground zero church
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This stuff is just too funny. I haven't seen this word tossed around so much since I used to watch All In The Family.
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In a May 2 broadcast, the televangelist said Islam was a “1,400-year-old lie from the pits of hell” and called the Prophet Mohammed a “murdering pedophile.” He also called the Quran a “book of fables and a book of lies.”
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DrJ said:
Vouching for what? That liberals love to call people bigots, it's basically their new catch phrase?
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Vouching that the bigot pastor is not a bigot. Otherwise, why would it be funny to you? You obviously went to the links Salon posted about his out and out bigotry, and deemed calling him a bigot inaccurate. Right? Because if it's funny to you that actual bigots are called bigots, then I don't know what to say. The right isn't usually so politically correct, except when it comes to figuring out who among them is actually a bigot.I wonder how Beck feels about this guys stance on Mormonism.

http://www.liveprayer.com/

http://911christiancenter.com/

You still want to say the left is using that word too loosely in describing this guy and his ilk?

 
tommyboy said:
DrJ said:
tommyboy said:
i doubt this thing gets built
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Probably not, which is kind of a shame. But the people it gets all foaming at the mouth and angry, crying about Fox News and throwing around derogatory labels almost makes it worth it.
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saw some poll about 70% of americans don't want it built. Seems pretty straightforward
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Who knew that buildings being built were subject to popular vote.
 
the moops said:
In a May 2 broadcast, the televangelist said Islam was a “1,400-year-old lie from the pits of hell” and called the Prophet Mohammed a “murdering pedophile.” He also called the Quran a “book of fables and a book of lies.”
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he should apply for a grant from the feds call it performance art like the guy who did "piss-Christ"
 
the moops said:
tommyboy said:
DrJ said:
tommyboy said:
i doubt this thing gets built
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Probably not, which is kind of a shame. But the people it gets all foaming at the mouth and angry, crying about Fox News and throwing around derogatory labels almost makes it worth it.
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saw some poll about 70% of americans don't want it built. Seems pretty straightforward
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Who knew that buildings being built were subject to popular vote.
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where does it say that? seems pretty straightforward that a large majority of americans, in voting terms a megatsunami if you will, are against the idea of a mosque being built 2 blocks from ground zero. If that doesn't impress you as a serious response to an idea, then I suppose you'll be really disappointed in the next general election results. Furthermore, labelling 70% of the poplulation as foaming at the mouth is probably why your side is the 30% side
 
ScottyFargo said:
DrJ said:
Vouching for what? That liberals love to call people bigots, it's basically their new catch phrase?
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Vouching that the bigot pastor is not a bigot. Otherwise, why would it be funny to you? You obviously went to the links Salon posted about his out and out bigotry, and deemed calling him a bigot inaccurate. Right? Because if it's funny to you that actual bigots are called bigots, then I don't know what to say. The right isn't usually so politically correct, except when it comes to figuring out who among them is actually a bigot.I wonder how Beck feels about this guys stance on Mormonism.

http://www.liveprayer.com/

http://911christiancenter.com/

You still want to say the left is using that word too loosely in describing this guy and his ilk?
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Yes, I'd say the fact that they are focusing on guys like this and labeling a bunch of people bigots rather than actually trying to persuade people to their viewpoint is very amusing. I'm amongst the 30% or whatever that wants it, and the way your side treats the issue simply amuses me.
 
And frankly, I didn't read all that much of the article. I giggled when I saw bigot, then noticed there was another link at the bottom that used the same word and never really bothered to read much on our pastor. I figured the person writing it wasn't worth reading by that point.

 
my wife brought this up to me the other day, she's a mom of 4 that hardly pays attention to the news. We were driving along and she said "seems like they're rubbing our nose in it". I wonder if a lot Americans have that same type of reaction to the idea of any Mosque being built there. I suspect they do.

 
tommyboy said:
my wife brought this up to me the other day, she's a mom of 4 that hardly pays attention to the news. We were driving along and she said "seems like they're rubbing our nose in it". I wonder if a lot Americans have that same type of reaction to the idea of any Mosque being built there. I suspect they do.
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If Osama Bin Laden was building the mosque, your wife would have a point.
 
the moops said:
tommyboy said:
my wife brought this up to me the other day, she's a mom of 4 that hardly pays attention to the news. We were driving along and she said "seems like they're rubbing our nose in it". I wonder if a lot Americans have that same type of reaction to the idea of any Mosque being built there. I suspect they do.
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If Osama Bin Laden was building the mosque, your wife would have a point.
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Even if Osama endorsed the mosque, she might have a point. If we could find him, maybe we should ask.
 
the moops said:
McJose said:
tommyboy said:
i think you guys are outlawyering each other here. Americans see Muslims flying airplanes, not Osama bin Laden. Therefore it would follow that Americans of our generation, having suffered a shock, would have a negative image of Muslims/Islam. Gallup backs that up http://www.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religiou...st-Muslims.aspx
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Doesn't mean it's right.
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Sorry man, 70% of Americans can't be wrong.
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Same reason why gay marriage isn't allowed - because it's wrong. Sorry to break it to you.
 
McJose said:
tommyboy said:
i think you guys are outlawyering each other here. Americans see Muslims flying airplanes, not Osama bin Laden. Therefore it would follow that Americans of our generation, having suffered a shock, would have a negative image of Muslims/Islam. Gallup backs that up http://www.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religiou...st-Muslims.aspx
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Doesn't mean it's right.
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itd be like telling Americans they needed to put up a Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor around Dec of 1951.
 
tommyboy said:
McJose said:
tommyboy said:
i think you guys are outlawyering each other here. Americans see Muslims flying airplanes, not Osama bin Laden. Therefore it would follow that Americans of our generation, having suffered a shock, would have a negative image of Muslims/Islam. Gallup backs that up http://www.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religiou...st-Muslims.aspx
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Doesn't mean it's right.
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itd be like telling Americans they needed to put up a Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor around Dec of 1951.
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Nowhere near the same. The nation of Japan officially attacked us. Not some extremists perverting their nation, the entire nation on the orders of their Emperor. Blaming the Japanese for the actions of their armed forces is justified and proper and correct. Blaming Muslims for the actions of a few extremists is just not the same thing.
 
tommyboy said:
McJose said:
tommyboy said:
i think you guys are outlawyering each other here. Americans see Muslims flying airplanes, not Osama bin Laden. Therefore it would follow that Americans of our generation, having suffered a shock, would have a negative image of Muslims/Islam. Gallup backs that up http://www.gallup.com/poll/125312/Religiou...st-Muslims.aspx
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Doesn't mean it's right.
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itd be like telling Americans they needed to put up a Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor around Dec of 1951.
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Yes, that is exactly what it would be like.
 
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