Muslims in NYC Planning to Build Second Mosque Near Ground Zero (1 Viewer)

[badmojo1006]

I still say this most if not all of this outrage will disappear the first Wednesday in November

 

[bigbottom]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

I don't think that answered my question.

 

[Desert_Power]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

I don't think that answered my question.

Well according to Fox he supports terrorism, so I'd say having terrorist in charge of our news isn't a good thing.However if you opperate under the assumption that Fox's assertion is horse####, then I can't see anything wrong.

 

[bigbottom]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

I don't think that answered my question.

Well according to Fox he supports terrorism, so I'd say having terrorist in charge of our news isn't a good thing.However if you opperate under the assumption that Fox's assertion is horse####, then I can't see anything wrong.

Which assumption do you operate under?

 

[EasyMorningRebel]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?

Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

I don't think that answered my question.

Well according to Fox he supports terrorism, so I'd say having terrorist in charge of our news isn't a good thing.

However if you opperate under the assumption that Fox's assertion is horse####, then I can't see anything wrong.

I think I've probably watched FOX news for a total of about 5 minutes of my life. I certainly don't support much that they represent. But do you think maybe you could dial down the hyperbole?

 

[Desert_Power]

Which assumption do you operate under?

The second. Fox News is past the point of being considered news in my book. This is just the latest example of why.

 

[Desert_Power]

I think I've probably watched FOX news for a total of about 5 minutes of my life. I certainly don't support much that they represent. But do you think maybe you could dial down the hyperbole?

I'm not the one implying this man is a terrorist, he seems like he is just an Arab business man who's company is now owned by News Corp. Fox News is the one implying he is and, if that were true, it would be troublesome. but Fox is the one using that hyperbole, not me.

 

[bigbottom]

Which assumption do you operate under?

The second. Fox News is past the point of being considered news in my book. This is just the latest example of why.

If that's the case, I think one does more harm than good by pressing this talking point. Sure, a person can get a dig in at Fox News in an attempt to paint them as hypocrites, but he or she does so by miming the very sort of rhetoric that we are criticizing.

 

[tommyboy]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

 

[flufhed]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

Doesn't really bother me. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

 

[flufhed]

Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Knowledge isn't control.

Great, thanks for explaining that for us.The point is, Murdoch didn't just wake up one day and say "well, by golly look at that, this Saudi Prince owns a huge share of my company."

 

[Desert_Power]

Which assumption do you operate under?

The second. Fox News is past the point of being considered news in my book. This is just the latest example of why.

If that's the case, I think one does more harm than good by pressing this talking point. Sure, a person can get a dig in at Fox News in an attempt to paint them as hypocrites, but he or she does so by miming the very sort of rhetoric that we are criticizing.

They are either deliberately painting one of their largest investors as a terrorist for ratings, or are too inept to actually google the name of the guy who they are accusing of it. But I agree with you, it is largely pointless to point it out.

 

[Christo]

Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Knowledge isn't control.

Great, thanks for explaining that for us.The point is, Murdoch didn't just wake up one day and say "well, by golly look at that, this Saudi Prince owns a huge share of my company."

Maybe you should have just said that. But then again, it wouldn't have addressed the point to which you were responding.

 

[cubd8]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

How is he 'unnamed' ? It seems pretty clear who it is?

 

[Desert_Power]

So, are we going to get a response from those who thought this was all just "MSNBC spin" on the connection between Murdoch and Saudi princes, or just schtick it up and try to pretend like nothing happened?Also, whoever said "well News corp is a publicly tradecd company, they can't control who buys stock." I think when an investor owns a 7% share in a company like News Corp, it kind of gets the attention of the CEO and Board.

Is it a bad thing that a Saudi prince is a News Corp investor?

It is yet another blow against Fox's credibility when it is drumming up fear against an "unnamed" terrorist supporter who has such a large stake in News Corp and they know it.

How is he 'unnamed' ? It seems pretty clear who it is?

I think, at least initially, Fox News wouldn't say his actual name.

 

[saintfool]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

well they did cancel "arrested development" and "undeclared"...

 

[CBusAlex]

What I find amusing is that you blame this gunfire on Fox News and the media rather than placing any blame on the people wanting to build the mosque stirring the pot. As if they didn't realize that's the reaction it would cause in certain segments of the population.

Wait, wait, wait.I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

 

[Woogie Lee]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

 

[tommyboy]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

barbara walters, walter cronkite and dan ratherside dish of Katie Couric, George Stephonopolus and Diane Sawyer

 

[Desert_Power]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

barbara walters, walter cronkite and dan ratherside dish of Katie Couric, George Stephonopolus and Diane Sawyer

 

[Woogie Lee]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

barbara walters, walter cronkite and dan ratherside dish of Katie Couric, George Stephonopolus and Diane Sawyer

X

Not even close.

 

[DrJ]

What I find amusing is that you blame this gunfire on Fox News and the media rather than placing any blame on the people wanting to build the mosque stirring the pot. As if they didn't realize that's the reaction it would cause in certain segments of the population.

Wait, wait, wait.I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I'm all for pulling out of there and letting them all blow each other up. Isreal can handle themselves at this point.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

barbara walters, walter cronkite and dan ratherside dish of Katie Couric, George Stephonopolus and Diane Sawyer

Gotta be shtick.

 

[jon_mx]

maybe liberals hatred of Fox gives them a window of understanding conservative hatred of liberal bias at ABC, CBS & NBC.

What a horrible analogy.Maybe you can give us the equivalent of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly for each of those networks?

barbara walters, walter cronkite and dan ratherside dish of Katie Couric, George Stephonopolus and Diane Sawyer

Gotta be shtick.

The networks don't have political talking heads shows so they don't spout the commentary like those Fox shows. Their bias is less obvious, but their bias is obvious on which stories are covered and how they are covered. Rather, Cronkite, and Walters are further left than O'Reilly is right.

 

[tommyboy]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

 

[badmojo1006]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a after my post

 

[tommyboy]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a after my post

 

[Statorama]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a after my post

Those on the left respected him, sure.

 

[badmojo1006]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a :( after my post

I think ten dollars for every so you owe me 30 dollars. Paypal will work for me

 

[jon_mx]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a after my post

I think ten dollars for every so you owe me 30 dollars. Paypal will work for me

Rather was a joke for a long time prior to his offically being outed during the Bush fake memos. They had a website Ratherbiased.com that documented his daily slanted reporting.

 

[Fennis]

you dont regulate who buys shares of your company when its a publicly owned company, right? Is it Fox news fault that this Saudi bought shares in the company or is this just MSNBC type spin?

A picture is worth a thousand words

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[jon_mx]

Agreed

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[Masked Vigilante]

Agreed

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[badmojo1006]

the only one of those that is obviously the worst of who i posted was Dan Rather. Hes the only one that reported a fraudulent story hoping to derail a presidential election and stood firm on that fraud well after it was discovered, to his great shame

Dan Rather screwed up at the end of his career. But up until then, he was a well respected journalist with 40 years experience Ten Bucks the right wing conservatives will post a after my post

I think ten dollars for every so you owe me 30 dollars. Paypal will work for me

Rather was a joke for a long time prior to his offically being outed during the Bush fake memos. They had a website Ratherbiased.com that documented his daily slanted reporting.

Ohhhh, the very scary, evil They

 

[jon_mx]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

 

[Sheriff66]

Let's bomb Mecca into nothingness then build some Christian churches there

 

[tommyboy]

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) – A well-known Australian Muslim cleric has called for the beheading of Dutch anti-Islamic politician Geert Wilders, a newspaper said on Friday.Wilders' Freedom Party scored the biggest gains in June 9 polls and is currently negotiating to form a new minority government with the Liberals and Christian Democrats. Polls show Wilders would win a new election if one were called now.

 

[EasyMorningRebel]

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) – A well-known Australian Muslim cleric has called for the beheading of Dutch anti-Islamic politician Geert Wilders, a newspaper said on Friday.Wilders' Freedom Party scored the biggest gains in June 9 polls and is currently negotiating to form a new minority government with the Liberals and Christian Democrats. Polls show Wilders would win a new election if one were called now.

Called for the beheading? Nice.

 

[CBusAlex]

I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I'm all for pulling out of there and letting them all blow each other up. Isreal can handle themselves at this point.

Regardless of what we should do, you agree that we have intervened in middle eastern countries' affairs, knowing full well that it would cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the population... right?

 

[jon_mx]

I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I'm all for pulling out of there and letting them all blow each other up. Isreal can handle themselves at this point.

Regardless of what we should do, you agree that we have intervened in middle eastern countries' affairs, knowing full well that it would cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the population... right?

Yeah, it sucks that we liberated one country from a ruthless dictator who killed over 500,000 of his own people, and is trying to wipe out a terrorist organization from leading another. America is so evil.

 

[the moops]

In 1999, he donated $6,000 to the Texas-based Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which was later shut down because of its ties to terrorism.

Elzanaty believed he was spending $500 a month to help orphans, his lawyer told The Post.

He's a pretty ####ty supporter of Hamas if he only gave them 6000 dollars unknowingly.

 

[urbanhack]

I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I'm all for pulling out of there and letting them all blow each other up. Isreal can handle themselves at this point.

Regardless of what we should do, you agree that we have intervened in middle eastern countries' affairs, knowing full well that it would cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the population... right?

Yeah, it sucks that we liberated one country from a ruthless dictator who killed over 500,000 of his own people, and is trying to wipe out a terrorist organization from leading another. America is so evil.

You realize a significant portion of the population still doesn't have power, right? That's just for starters....

 

[Desert_Power]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

Is this the best you can do?

 

[mad sweeney]

I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I'm all for pulling out of there and letting them all blow each other up. Isreal can handle themselves at this point.

Regardless of what we should do, you agree that we have intervened in middle eastern countries' affairs, knowing full well that it would cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the population... right?

Yeah, it sucks that we liberated one country from a ruthless dictator who killed over 500,000 of his own people, and is trying to wipe out a terrorist organization from leading another. America is so evil.

What a complete joke your vision of history is. Yes it does suck that we "liberated" a country by manufacturing reasons for doing so. Especially since invading Iraq stopped us from beating the actual terrorist organization that attacked us into dust and helping them establish themselves in a country they had no meaningful presence in previously, as well as giving them a torch to help recruit for their cause against the "evil" America that invaded a Muslim country for reasons that all turned out to be false (some deliberately so). How you can put those two things in the same sentence is appalling, especially considering how many troops died in Iraq and in Afghanistan before we switched targets. And now even more are dying in Afghanistan now because we didn't finish the job. Conservative Revisionist History is always so hilarious to read until you think about the cost. Ask the hundreds of thousands of Rwandans killed by machetes how great the US is in helping out oppressed people. Of course, they have no oil so we debated definitions instead of liberating them. But go on, keep spouting the Great Humanitarian Reasons we invaded Iraq for, none of them are the reasons we went in and you know it. Slam Dunk homie, Slam Dunk.

 

[mad sweeney]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

Is this the best you can do?

Pretty much, but don't worry he'll make up a bunch of stuff that he thinks proves his point but just pushes him further away from reality.

 

[jon_mx]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

Is this the best you can do?

Pretty much, but don't worry he'll make up a bunch of stuff that he thinks proves his point but just pushes him further away from reality.

As long as it is top secret where their funds are coming from, this is all we have. What little we do know is dirty. The people who support are doing it to show support to terrorists. So far I am batting 1.000 on this. We will see as more info is uncovered. But it is beyond naive to think otherwise.

 

[mad sweeney]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

Is this the best you can do?

Pretty much, but don't worry he'll make up a bunch of stuff that he thinks proves his point but just pushes him further away from reality.

As long as it is top secret where their funds are coming from, this is all we have. What little we do know is dirty. The people who support are doing it to show support to terrorists. So far I am batting 1.000 on this. We will see as more info is uncovered. But it is beyond naive to think otherwise.

When any investor tops the US contributions to Bin Laden, let us know. Sad.

 

[gary mexico]

Well, the secrecy about the funding is slowly starting to trickle out. There was never a doubt that the big money behind the cultural center/mosque were also supporters of terrorism. It is beyond naive to think the statement being made by this building was something other than supporting the attacks of 9-11.

'Hamas' mosque funder

6G gift to front group

By JENNIFER GOULD KEIL

Last Updated: 6:17 AM, September 3, 2010

An Egyptian-born businessman who lives on Long Island — and who once gave thousands of dollars to a Hamas front group — is a major investor in the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, it was reported last night, in the first disclosure of the money behind the controversial project.

Hisham Elzanaty was a “significant investor” in developer Sharif el-Gamal’s $4.8 million purchase of the former Burlington Coat Factory building, where the mosque and Islamic cultural center will be built, the donor’s lawyer, Wolodymyr Starosolsky, told Fox 5 News.

El-Gamal himself has refused to disclose where he got the money to buy the building in July 2009. Elzanaty owns a $2million home in Roslyn Heights, and operates medical companies out of a building in The Bronx. He also owns the New York Neuro and Rehab Center in Morningside Heights.

Is this the best you can do?

Pretty much, but don't worry he'll make up a bunch of stuff that he thinks proves his point but just pushes him further away from reality.

Wow, the denial you people are in is really impressive

 

[gary mexico]

What I find amusing is that you blame this gunfire on Fox News and the media rather than placing any blame on the people wanting to build the mosque stirring the pot. As if they didn't realize that's the reaction it would cause in certain segments of the population.

Wait, wait, wait.I think we can agree that the United States knows, when we involve ourselves in Israel or Saudi Arabia or other middle eastern countries' affairs, that it will cause a violent reaction in certain segments of the Arab population. Yes?

I can agree with that. There violent actions cause a bit of a reaction here towards the muslims living in the U.S too. Thats probably why they are physically and verbally attacked as well as not being able to walk through an airport without people giving them the stink-eye the whole time...

 

[tommyboy]

mad sweeney off the meds. chill