My Son Thinks He's The Next Eminem (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Retukes]

Are you Tom Hanks?

 

[Johnny Rock]

3rd Song is up.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cP8qoY5K2jE

Son did part of the song and sent it off to another MN artist who said he'd collaborate with him, Joey Dox. Pretty sure they've never met in person so I thought that was cool that they got together on this. His FB page http://www.facebook....122747137783091

JoeyD kinda has some ICP going in his part.

Btw, he isn't changing the name. I think that's why he's labeling everything with YW now. To me the problem is still the same, but now he'll have the added hassle of explaining what YW means. It's his life. Even if he somewhat agrees with me he probably figures changing it is me winning and on something as important as the name (just like a band name) he would take a pride hit. Understandable, but to me who cares who figured out that it should be changed? My opinion.

 

[Harry Manback]

Example of an amateur white rapper out on YouTube.

Show this to your son.

 

[offdee]

3rd Song is up.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cP8qoY5K2jE

Son did part of the song and sent it off to another MN artist who said he'd collaborate with him, Joey Dox. Pretty sure they've never met in person so I thought that was cool that they got together on this. His FB page http://www.facebook....122747137783091

JoeyD kinda has some ICP going in his part.

Btw, he isn't changing the name. I think that's why he's labeling everything with YW now. To me the problem is still the same, but now he'll have the added hassle of explaining what YW means. It's his life. Even if he somewhat agrees with me he probably figures changing it is me winning and on something as important as the name (just like a band name) he would take a pride hit. Understandable, but to me who cares who figured out that it should be changed? My opinion.

of the pictures on that youtube link.....the 2nd one with the dude throwing up a gang symbol while standing in his little sister's room filled with pink kitten posters. I' d suggest this definitely be his first album cover.Which one of those 3 in the video is your son?

The guy singing third in that song seems to have the best flow. But, overall can hardly understand any of it...just like the last video the sound quality on these things are terrible.

 

[Johnny Rock]

3rd Song is up.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cP8qoY5K2jE

Son did part of the song and sent it off to another MN artist who said he'd collaborate with him, Joey Dox. Pretty sure they've never met in person so I thought that was cool that they got together on this. His FB page http://www.facebook....122747137783091

JoeyD kinda has some ICP going in his part.

Btw, he isn't changing the name. I think that's why he's labeling everything with YW now. To me the problem is still the same, but now he'll have the added hassle of explaining what YW means. It's his life. Even if he somewhat agrees with me he probably figures changing it is me winning and on something as important as the name (just like a band name) he would take a pride hit. Understandable, but to me who cares who figured out that it should be changed? My opinion.

of the pictures on that youtube link.....the 2nd one with the dude throwing up a gang symbol while standing in his little sister's room filled with pink kitten posters. I' d suggest this definitely be his first album cover.Which one of those 3 in the video is your son?

The guy singing third in that song seems to have the best flow. But, overall can hardly understand any of it...just like the last video the sound quality on these things are terrible.

Not sure why they're posting douchey pics of themselves in cars. The pic of the guy in the car in the 2nd cover shot is Word Man.For the 3rd song, when they're all listed sequentially, the partially shielded pic of the kid flashing hand signals is my son. Once you click on the 3rd song to play it, the static pic of the guy in the car in a green shirt is B-Boy.

I've never seen the one pic blown up that big to see the pink kitten posters. Must be his girlfriends' BR? Lol.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

You need to put a stop to this.

 

[whodeywhodey]

You need to put a stop to this.

Agreed. He is just not that good. Sorry.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Please change the title to "Dad tacitly thinks his son has a shot at being the next Eminem."

 

[Carver]

Show him the Del taco video so he can see what happens to wiggas who take it too far.

 

[Johnny Rock]

The voice of reason isn't always welcome in situations like this. Of course all his friends and even B-boy's dad are telling them they're great and going to the top. Son's said more than once, "Thanks for the support." My wife and I both tell him we're going to be honest with our opinions. I freely admit that I'm not his target demographic but I have some musical background and I call it as I see it.

Reality will eventually hit. Either it gets progressively better or it doesn't. Still doesn't change the fact that he needs to get a permanent job to pay the bills when he moves out. Even B-Boy, who didn't get the best grades in HS at least has a plan to go into law enforcement.

In the end it probably is not much different than someone coasting through school with a few credits for a couple years before "figuring it out."

 

[Dr. Awesome]

You need to put a stop to this.

The first song wasn't that bad. The second wasn't that good. The third was atrocious. And he's an idiot for using the name YW. Sorry. Still, there's not much you can do to derail this. Keep supporting him as long as he's still working hard to make it happen.

 

[Otis]

Please change the title to "Dad tacitly thinks his son has a shot at being the next Eminem."

 

[Otis]

lol at "b-boy"

 

[Harry Manback]

Example of an amateur white rapper out on YouTube.

Show this to your son.

Did you show him this?

 

[shadyridr]

Wow that 3rd song was dreadful. I find it funny how the songs got progressively worse

 

[Johnny Rock]

Please change the title to "Dad tacitly thinks his son has a shot at being the next Eminem."

I'm shuked by this comment. Schtick?I'm open to your ideas guys on how I should put a stop to this. Pickles, I asked you that in post #38 and I don't think you answered then either.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Example of an amateur white rapper out on YouTube.

Show this to your son.

I emailed him the link and told him to check it out.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

"When I was a kid, when I was a little boy, I always wanted to be a dinosaur, I wanted to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex more than anything in the world, I made my arms short and I roamed the back yard, I chased the neighborhood cats, I growled and I roared, everybody knew me and was afraid of me, and one day my dad said "Bobby you are 17, it's time to throw childish things aside" and I said "OK Pop", but he didn't really say that he said that "Stop being a ####### dinosaur and get a job."

 

[Mr. Pickles]

If

is representative of the Minneapolis rap scene, he might actually have a shot.

 

[Blind Tiger]

Even B-Boy, who didn't get the best grades in HS at least has a plan to go into law enforcement.

I can't imagine this will be good for a budding hip hop career.

 

[the moops]

If

Was about to start a thread about this dude. 50 Tyson.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

"What? Remix.."

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

If

 

[Otis]

He's like Kige Ramsey if we imagined Kige was black.

 

[Clifford]

Give him some Jurassic five albums and tell him to start over

 

[hutchins929]

I ain't seen him catchin a label wit dem skillz yo!

seriously though...

He needs to snap back to reality

oh there goes gravity...

no, but seriously...

Tell him to go back to school! It isn't gonna happen. Nothing wrong with doing it as a hobby. Then maybe he will get better, over time, and you never know. Well, you and I do! But, he doesn't yet so he can continue to work at it. Just as long as it's after he hits the books.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

The voice of reason isn't always welcome in situations like this. Of course all his friends and even B-boy's dad are telling them they're great and going to the top. Son's said more than once, "Thanks for the support." My wife and I both tell him we're going to be honest with our opinions. I freely admit that I'm not his target demographic but I have some musical background and I call it as I see it.

Reality will eventually hit. Either it gets progressively better or it doesn't. Still doesn't change the fact that he needs to get a permanent job to pay the bills when he moves out. Even B-Boy, who didn't get the best grades in HS at least has a plan to go into law enforcement.

In the end it probably is not much different than someone coasting through school with a few credits for a couple years before "figuring it out."

this is a great thread.

 

[flapgreen]

 

[LHUCKS]

 

[Britney Spears]

These are seriously some of the most cliche awful lyrics possible.

It's like they took all the most common phrases from mediocre rap songs from the early 00s and put them on shuffle.

Write something that actually means something, not try to recreate someone else's songs.

Explain to him, that if another artist came along and pretty much sounded like Eminem, it would be nothing special. Eminem is revered because he did something original.

 

[Britney Spears]

"B-Random"

He could just randomly change topics to whatever pops into his mind.

 

[Raider Nation]

Is the dream still alive?

 

[Johnny Rock]

The dream has died down a bit as far as I know as the topic rarely comes up now. He's been working the same p/t job for about a year and a half. He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University. Communication is good. As I hoped, time, maturity and reality helped turn the tide.

 

[Bogart]

He doesn't hang out with someone named "Amber" does he??

 

[McJose]

He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University.

No offense...I mean Jr College was probably the best 4.5 years of my life...but "accepted"?

 

[Johnny Rock]

He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University.

No offense...I mean Jr College was probably the best 4.5 years of my life...but "accepted"?

Believe me, I wasn't sure he would get in. He claims he's going to take it seriously (if he doesn't it's his money) but he actually got an F his last semester and a D in Foods. That's right, a D in Foods. Wtf. He's a smart guy too which is frustrating. I didn't always apply myself 100% either but a B average is pretty easy to maintain with minimal effort.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University.

No offense...I mean Jr College was probably the best 4.5 years of my life...but "accepted"?

Believe me, I wasn't sure he would get in. He claims he's going to take it seriously (if he doesn't it's his money) but he actually got an F his last semester and a D in Foods. That's right, a D in Foods. Wtf. He's a smart guy too which is frustrating. I didn't always apply myself 100% either but a B average is pretty easy to maintain with minimal effort.

No shame in that. Foods is a well known weed-out class.

 

[crackattack]

He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University.

No offense...I mean Jr College was probably the best 4.5 years of my life...but "accepted"?

Believe me, I wasn't sure he would get in. He claims he's going to take it seriously (if he doesn't it's his money) but he actually got an F his last semester and a D in Foods. That's right, a D in Foods. Wtf. He's a smart guy too which is frustrating. I didn't always apply myself 100% either but a B average is pretty easy to maintain with minimal effort.

No shame in that. Foods is a well known weed-out class.

 

[Johnny Rock]

He was accepted to a 2 yr Community College and intends to get his Generals there to save money and transfer to a 4-yr University.

No offense...I mean Jr College was probably the best 4.5 years of my life...but "accepted"?

Believe me, I wasn't sure he would get in. He claims he's going to take it seriously (if he doesn't it's his money) but he actually got an F his last semester and a D in Foods. That's right, a D in Foods. Wtf. He's a smart guy too which is frustrating. I didn't always apply myself 100% either but a B average is pretty easy to maintain with minimal effort.

No shame in that. Foods is a well known weed-out class.

Hopefully weed isn't providing too much influence.

 

[Carver]

He doesn't hang out with someone named "Amber" does he??

Shame to say... but that would probably be somewhat of a relief for poor Mike.

 

[eakfootball]

Did he watch 8 mile right before he said this?

 

[Johnny Rock]

***UPDATE***

He's got a few new songs up on Soundclick.com under the name "320KingTut." Just search under 320 and it'll come up. I'll withhold posting my opinion until later.

Regarding other developments, he's still working the same PT job and living at home (crashes a few nights/week at his gf's or a buddies). He's on academic probation after first semester at CC. You heard that right. Under a 2.0. When questioned why he's going to school and taking out loans if he's not going to try, he blamed one prof. and me. ROFLMAO. Way to take responsibility there boy! He says his grades are better this semester. We'll see.

 

[Johnny Rock]

His dream is still alive and he claims me and his mom are the only ones who don't see it. I told him I'm not against him I just don't think it's extraordinary. I said prove me wrong then.

He says he has 6 songs and is putting out an album in a month or two. Supposedly opening for someone at a gig or two.

Tonight he comes in to tell me he's going to start a clothing line. I nearly roflmfao but I only smirked and rolled my eyes in condescending fashion. He said some store is going to let him pick out the clothes he wants in return for a shout-out on stage.

I'm like focus. Get a following. See if you're successful at that. It's very hard to make it in the clothing business. He thinks he's going to sell hats and that a local store agreed to carry them.

I asked to see the design and he said he doesn't have one yet. I said yeah right a store is going to carry your hats and you've never performed or designed a hat for them to see?! He's in la-la land. I told him not to spend a bunch of money on hats. He had thought he would buy them for $6 and sell them for $10.

Again I said first things first. Perform. Get some songs and a following. Don't be naive. He is oblivious to the

 

[cstu]

It's funny you bumped this because a friend of mine is going through the same thing. Her son got kicked out of college after a semester and moved back home. He said he was going to be a rich and famous rapper within a year but didn't end up doing anything except flipping burgers. He finally went back to college at an art school with a $35k a year tuition that his mom is paying for.

 

[jdoggydogg]

His dream is still alive and he claims me and his mom are the only ones who don't see it. I told him I'm not against him I just don't think it's extraordinary. I said prove me wrong then.

He says he has 6 songs and is putting out an album in a month or two. Supposedly opening for someone at a gig or two.

Tonight he comes in to tell me he's going to start a clothing line. I nearly roflmfao but I only smirked and rolled my eyes in condescending fashion. He said some store is going to let him pick out the clothes he wants in return for a shout-out on stage.

I'm like focus. Get a following. See if you're successful at that. It's very hard to make it in the clothing business. He thinks he's going to sell hats and that a local store agreed to carry them.

I asked to see the design and he said he doesn't have one yet. I said yeah right a store is going to carry your hats and you've never performed or designed a hat for them to see?! He's in la-la land. I told him not to spend a bunch of money on hats. He had thought he would buy them for $6 and sell them for $10.

Again I said first things first. Perform. Get some songs and a following. Don't be naive. He is oblivious to the

As long as he keeps this in mind, there's a shot: most people don't luck into fame - and they certainly don't sustain fame with luck. Being good at something is about hard work, and nothing else. Talent? Sure, that's important. But it's only part of the equation.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

holy crap this is a previously missed gem.

 

[ChainsawU]

This is interesting. Haven't read the whole 7-8 pages, what has the conversation netted as far as actually studying music, taking classes, etc..?

 

[jdoggydogg]

This is interesting. Haven't read the whole 7-8 pages, what has the conversation netted as far as actually studying music, taking classes, etc..?

He wants to be a rapper, not a musician.

 

[ChainsawU]

Even Tupac took fine arts classes. I'm just saying.

Here's an article that was published about two weeks ago on this:

Rappers Tupac, Nicki Minaj, Slick Rick, Kanye West, Dana Dane and newcomer Azealia Banks all have one thing in common. They all got schooled! Any artist worth their salt has sat through Ear Training, Voice and Diction, Theatre History 1, Art History, and possibly Keyboard Skills and Chorus during the course of their formal training on the way to becoming world class professional performing artists. While those classes can be torturous, they’re not exactly the kind of hard knocks we think about when we think about the upbringing of most rappers. It’s hard to believe, but singing in the halls, dancing and knocking out beats on the tables, and clawing for the lead in the school musical were par for the course for some listed above. With the exception of Tupac and West all of them attended the infamous star factory commonly called the La Guardia High School for the Performing Arts, the very source for the hit show and 2009 movie Fame. Far from the mean streets, the school is couched in one of the intense-est of artistic surroundings near Lincoln Center and the Juilliard School, steps away from where most artists want ultimately to end up. Some of them received more schooling than others, some pursued so-called serious arts careers on and off-Broadway. Others failed at their intended art and wound up in their most successful artistry by default.

As a youngster and a member of Harlem’s 127th Street Repertory Ensemble, Tupac Shakur acted in A Raisin in the Sun and performed it at the hallowed Apollo Theatre with no “Sandman” in sight. It’s now old news to know that the hardest man on the streets at one time studied ballet, danced in the Nutcracker and performed in Shakespeare plays — the latter not so hard to believe due to the linguistic wizardry he was known for.

Banks and Minaj both entered school in pursuit of different artistic paths other than “rapper.” People won’t find her 2012 Grammy performance so shocking when they know that Minaj first wanted to be an actress and has admitted it’s still her end game. The theatrics, voice-play and frothing pseudo-schizophrenia are accessible tools in the box of an artist looking for ways to put her thespian skills on display, even in an industry that demands brutal realness at every turn. Banks knows the absurdity of the audition lifestyle well. In a BBC interview Azealia says before she was “your favorite, raunchiest female rapper, rap star” she was “a really big musical theater geek.” Her epiphany came in a professional audition where she was 16 competing against a 26 year-old for the role of a 14 year-old. At that moment, that life made no sense for her. Enter the inexplicably cheesy-grinned persona with the penchant for Mickey Mouse gear, both sugar and spice, but not very nice if you listen closely to the barbed profanity-laced lyrics she spits in her break-out Youtube hit “212.” Her quick infamy has landed her on the short roster of artists with Troy Carter, guru manager to Lady Gaga.

Imagine for a second, Slick Rick, master storyteller, and Dana Dane planning world-domination in the cafeteria. Picture Kanye as a freshman at The American Academy of Art taking both Life Drawing and Art Composition. We can see his artsy influences in his personal style, his music videos and even his home decor. No one can argue that arts schooling didn’t help them all in their flowering multitalented-ness. But what many of them have in common, the thing that made them able to go from artsy kid to street phenomenon is a quality I call the “Chameleon Gene.” All of them have the knack to absorb multiple cultural influences into a style that’s all their own. Because of a natural gift for shape-shifting wrapped in a bit of good theatre training, they can emulate others who came before them, exude swagger so convincingly that it becomes hyper-real, and create effortlessly addictive personas that coagulate millions of eager fans.

Drake, another rapper who studied acting in high school before dropping out and having a successful run on a teen drama personifies this last quality maybe more successfully than most. They seem to be, in many ways, the Über-Artists, even if some of their artsy backgrounds can’t necessarily qualify them as the most legitimate form of Hip Hop progeny. Their bragging about their rightful places at the top rub some the wrong way because of their non-traditional ascent away from the dangers of the mean streets or lack of a side career as a street pharmacist: two now old-fashioned forms of ID, as far as credibility is concerned. The bouncer at the door of Hip Hop/Rap stardom now only asks, “Can you make good, catchy music?” But if angst and less than stellar childhoods are still ingredients for legitimacy, many in this group have seen and suffered their share of awful circumstances.

Mean streets aside, arts schools are their own kind of ferociously competitive arenas. For every success story there are countless not-so-much stories of artists who couldn’t wing it. Everyone knows the grail goes to the person that keeps getting back up, reinvents himself as need be and adjusts to the climate at hand. Banks describes it as this feeling that “it’s not going to happen, but it has to happen.” It’s a hunger they all share to make it work and not on a small scale. One might guess, like Kanye, that brilliance might just be able to replace bullets in the verse and that preppy was overdue for it’s chance at cool. One could take rapid-fire lyricism, spy Gaga’s penchant for freakishness, remember Lil Kim’s irresistible irreverence, dare to flaunt a video-babe bod paired with a valley girl accent and SCORE! To us it feels like overnight Nicki Minaj became what some see as one of the most uniquely talented figures in music today. She might be psychic, like the Harlem-born Azealia Banks, who seemed to know that right about now, the world would be searching for an answer to pop-rap without throwing the baby out with the bath water. She sensed we never quite got over Aaliyah and were missing Missy Elliott, might be craving Eve and the age when the female emcee could bluster with the big boys and make them swoon at the same time.

What have we learned? That the New School went to school and are putting those keyboard skills, painting and method classes to work like nobody’s business. It’s probably one of the reasons they’re more determined than ever to be the boss of their own art — because they know better than to do otherwise. What they also have in common with their Classical counterparts is that many quit formal schooling early to focus full time on their art. It also looks like the “high arts” have lost their soap box of superiority without such a clear delineation between those who have studied the art and those creating their own brand of it in pop culture. It means that at the end of my outreach performances I might just start saying, “If you study really hard and practice for hours, you might just get to be a rapper!”

ETA: The Link

 

[Sweet Love]

This should be his tagline..."320KingTut, cuz I likes to get an an hour head start on all them posers, Egyptian-style".