Cliff Clavin
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Agreed. Lowry 100% deserves to be in it while Derozan is borderline. I'd have no argument with either of Afflalo or Stephenson over him (well, I'd argue, but just for the hell of it).
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Juxtatarot
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Timmay
Footballguy
That is a great question. They could of at least got a Nationally televised1pm est game in there before the super bowl, for sports fans to keep busy until the big game. At least put the Celtics/I think Magic game on NBATV. What else are they going to show.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
ESPN doesn't want to piss off the NFL by scheduling anything against any part of the Super Bowl coverage.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I think Lowry deserves to be in over Derozan to give Raps their rep. [i've never been a proponent of giving teams a rep for the sake of just doing so, but 1 of the 2 does deserve to go]
Stephenson belongs over Joe Johnson as a no brainer. He also belongs over several others. Particularly one East starter, playing in the toilet bowl that is Cleveland, voted by the fans. And in the process of comparing to Stephenson (even if you've not seen a minute of either play this season), you'll also see how ridiculous PER is.......
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
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I agree fan voting is awful, but just as bad is NBA coaches naming Johnson over Stephenson. Saw mentioned above, I agree the Stephenson has been the East's best 2 in the first half.
Goran Dragic also deserves a spot. Rotoworld had a nice article about him (vs. Parker & Lilliard). The Johnson selection was so bad it's put on the back burner how good Goran's been this season. Unlike Joe Johnson, Parker/Lilliard are playing at high level on good teams so Goran omission is understandable.
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Since Bargnani is out, time to pick on someone else....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzDWKhPSZAY
The Cavaliers do not want to send Anthony Bennett to the D-League because it would be an admission of a failure, according to Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated.
He would be the highest pick ever to go to the D-League, but Bennett isn't totally against the idea. "I heard it helped out Shabazz [Muhammad] real well," Bennett said. "Any way to help, I'm with it." He doesn't have the athleticism to beat guys off the dribble or any real go-to moves in the post, so he really could use some seasoning with the D-League. Fantasy owners can ignore him in most leagues. Jan 31 - 3:55 PM
Source: Sports Illustrated
They've got to put the guy at PF. And leave him there. Hell, he's more of a 5 than a 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzDWKhPSZAY
The Cavaliers do not want to send Anthony Bennett to the D-League because it would be an admission of a failure, according to Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated.
He would be the highest pick ever to go to the D-League, but Bennett isn't totally against the idea. "I heard it helped out Shabazz [Muhammad] real well," Bennett said. "Any way to help, I'm with it." He doesn't have the athleticism to beat guys off the dribble or any real go-to moves in the post, so he really could use some seasoning with the D-League. Fantasy owners can ignore him in most leagues. Jan 31 - 3:55 PM
Source: Sports Illustrated
They've got to put the guy at PF. And leave him there. Hell, he's more of a 5 than a 3.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
My folks are in Florida on vacation and going to their first ever NBA game. Magic vs Bucks 
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Maybe, but I'd think it's more a matter of ESPN not wanting to interfere with their own SB pre-game coverage.
TNT would make sense, but I imagine ESPN may have the rights to all national NBA games on Sundays.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
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Cliff Clavin
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Bynum to the Pacers
Abraham
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Tough call. I would be all for it. He seems to be thought of quite highly around the league from what I've read. It would probably take 2 1sts since this years pick is looking like it'll be around 20.
Gotta think Ujiri will do what he can to get Wiggins.
Abraham
Footballguy
That's where I was going with this. Lowry (resign), derozan (all star) and wiggins would be a pretty good back court.
Bobcat10
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Jonas & 2 1sts is a pipe dream IMO in this draft to get Embiid Wiggins Parker. I'd wouldn't accept offer for either of the 2 PG's either unless have a franchise PG in place. Other drafts, he very well would be worth the #1 pick.
Jonas will be a good player but I don't think he's a star player that people will pay to see. I've never been a proponent of dealing franchise players that can be the face of your franchise for players that won't be. (If you think Jonas will be that, then do it. I don't think he will be)
Jonas will be a good player but I don't think he's a star player that people will pay to see. I've never been a proponent of dealing franchise players that can be the face of your franchise for players that won't be. (If you think Jonas will be that, then do it. I don't think he will be)
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Cliff Clavin
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Maybe. All depends on the GMs view of JV. IMO his floor is 15/10 and a borderline top 10 center for the next decade. I agree that he'll never be a franchise guy. That plus a couple 1sts is a pretty good return for a lottery ticket. As hyped as this draft is, there are going to be busts. Bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
Maybe they'd have to throw In Ross or Derozan to sweeten the deal.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Can't wait to see a playoff matchup featuring Bynum vs. Oden (in the last 2 minutes of a blowout).
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
let's be fair. it's only the lowest in the 60+ years since they started recording rebounds as a stat.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
The new commisioner looks like Tony Dungy's albino brother.
Bobcat10
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Just brutal watching Josh Smith 2nite vs. Miami. Good luck unloading that 3.5 years left on that deal.
He was 1-of-16 on shots beyond 3 feet tonight.
Playing him at the 3.Pistons probably still wishing they had Corey Maggette on the books still instead
Or even just playing out the year with Charlie V's hideous contract.It's almost like Dumars can't help himself with these horrific contracts.
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Cliff Clavin
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Bromigo
i apologize on behalf of the bucks brohan my condolencasMy folks are in Florida on vacation and going to their first ever NBA game. Magic vs Bucks
Gr00vus
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
At least Noah got his money's worth.
ShaHBucks
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SoCalBroncoFan
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Well, if he plays 5 more games this season he is on the books for next year. If he doesn't there is some rule that would allow the Lakers to get out from under that 9 mil next year and wipe it from they're books. They would have that 9 mil to spend on other players. Here in SoCal they have been talking about what a waste it's going to be. How they should just have him sit out the rest if the year and waive him and keep the 9 mil in cap space.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Is Philly going to keep Turner past this season (assuming he doesn't get traded)? Almost $9M is a pretty hefty price tag for him.
tom22406
Footballguy
The life of being a Wizards fan is tough.
They just ended a streak of being at or below .500 team for 355 games that dated back to 09'.
No idea what the record is for that but maybe now some of you understand just how bad this franchise has been.45 wins has not been topped since the 78'-79' campaign.
And now this year they are the only team who can say they have beaten the Heat,Blazers and Thunder by 10 points or more.
And yes,I will enjoy this while I can!
They just ended a streak of being at or below .500 team for 355 games that dated back to 09'.
No idea what the record is for that but maybe now some of you understand just how bad this franchise has been.45 wins has not been topped since the 78'-79' campaign.
And now this year they are the only team who can say they have beaten the Heat,Blazers and Thunder by 10 points or more.
And yes,I will enjoy this while I can!
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I remember seeing somewhere that he's good as gone.Cliff Clavin said:
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Breaking over .500 during maybe the toughest portion of their schedule for the year has been impressive.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
The Suns have reportedly halted trade talks with the Lakers for Pau Gasol, with the Lakers apparently seeking too much in return for the veteran big man.
The groin injury that will likely keep Gasol out through the All-Star break also had to have played a role in talks breaking down, while the Suns aren't in any hurry to give up many of their coveted draft picks (they should have four of them). Talks could resume at any time, but with Gasol on the shelf and the Lakers asking a steep price for Gasol, it doesn't appear likely that he'll end up in Phoenix.
Source: Los Angeles Times
Good move by Suns. They aren't a contender with Gasol and no reason to give much for a rental.
The groin injury that will likely keep Gasol out through the All-Star break also had to have played a role in talks breaking down, while the Suns aren't in any hurry to give up many of their coveted draft picks (they should have four of them). Talks could resume at any time, but with Gasol on the shelf and the Lakers asking a steep price for Gasol, it doesn't appear likely that he'll end up in Phoenix.
Source: Los Angeles Times
Good move by Suns. They aren't a contender with Gasol and no reason to give much for a rental.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
They don't need 4 1st rounders. Certainly the Indiana pick is worth a Gasol rental.
Abraham
Footballguy
Agree. They are young enough as it is. Picks outside of the lottery are almost destined to be rotation guys or busts. They don't need any more rotation guys. No, they aren't winning the title but so what? Not every team wins the prize.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Just because they don't "need" them doesn't mean they should be just giving them away. There's no reason to be shipping an asset like that to LA for an injured rental,especially when LA has limited suitors. This sounds a lot like last summer.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I dont think so. I dont believe the new head coach and staff is all that enamored in what he provides to the team particularly at what it will costs to pay him.Cliff Clavin said:
They will have MCW, Noel, Young (lots of trade suitors/rumors, like with Turner), Hawes and potentially a top 5 and another top 10 pick this draft (currently slotted #3 and #11).
A 17/10 big man can turn a series. When you have four picks giving up one of them for the chance to do damage in the playoffs seems worth it. A conference-finals appearance would be pretty huge at this point for the Suns.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Agreed. People assume Lakers only asked for 1 1st and/or were asking for the Pacer pick.
Suns need a long term star. Gasol isn't it at this point. Unless you think Dragic and/or Bledsoe will lead you to promise land, they need to set their sights on a star. Unless they somehow think they'll get it in FA, best way to do so is via the draft.
They can also use those pick(s) and current players from team to move up. And get someone that'll be their for the long term in the process. Wouldn't be shocked at all if they part with Dragic (career year) and/or match any offer Bledsoe gets on the restricted market. Likewise, it's not a given that Bledsoe will be back & some team won't throw a trunkload of money based on his play earlier this season.
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