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Raider Nation
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
OMG, I turned off the Cavs game when they were trailing by 17 after 3Q. What a gag job by the Celts.
sports_fan
Footballguy
his son is active on twitter. he posts updates every once in a while
https://twitter.com/CraigSagerJr/status/529778973589270528
https://twitter.com/CraigSagerJr/status/530208084203819008
Britney Spears
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Kobe's attacking the rim, with contested jumpers.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
He's only missed 9 shots tonight. Hasn't made any, but he's keeping his misses down.
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Britney Spears
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It's obviously great fun to make fun of Kobe doing work, but of the Laker games I've caught this year, they actually seem to be playing better tonight than usual.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
It's the first game that I've seen where Kobe has been a willing passer. Makes a pretty big difference.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Agreed. I should probably retract the compliment at this point though. They are terrible.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Too much Kobe tonight.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Much as I enjoy the Lakers franchise in flames, is it even worth discussing anymore? They're a complete non-factor for the next two years. 
sports_fan
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Hawks with 4 wins in a row. They've started the season well. Tonight's game @Cle should be interesting. If they could win tonight then they have a good shot at being 8-3 with games against the Wizards And Raptors after that.
Hayward and Favors at least doing the best they can to kind of sort of justify those contracts. Good on them.
Also, even though completely unsustainable, there's not much in the NBA so far this year more impressive than Kyle Korver leading the NBA with almost 4 threes a game, while knocking them down at a .577 clip.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
While that's a wonderful compliment it's laughable. I've been a fan 40 years and I can assure you they are nothing like the Spurs.
I wouldn't say that at all. They've developed a similar organizational philosophy in terms of building the team and utilizing the players, and are being coached brilliantly by a straight-up Pop disciple.
They've scooped up undervalued assets and gotten them to buy into their team-first philosophy, and it's paying dividends.
They've got years of success to go before they can be mentioned in the same breath in terms of anything but philosophy, but I'm certainly not the first person to make that connection. I think it's their spoken intention to try to ape the Spurs' successful methods, and I think they've built a nice little unit to do a non-embarrassing job of it. It's not a compliment at all -- it's an observation. Of course, staying healthy enough to get more than just a tiny bit of success is a big first step. They looked on the way to relevance last year prior to the Horford debacle, and they're right back on track this year.
Big fan of this team and the direction they're pointed. Huge Bud fan.
Moe.
Footballguy
I mean I like to bag on Kobe as much as the next guy, and I understand the other guys on the team are shooting at a higher clip, but do you really think they'd be better if if he deferred more to Boozer and the rest of those clowns? He's in a no-win situation (I understand much of that is his own doing, so no sympathy) but I still think this team's best chance to win is for Kobe to get a ton of shots up.
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
It isn't about deferring. It is about making the right play. Last night he was actively looking to pass and the team played rather well. Had his shot been falling they may have had a chance at winning. The previous 7-8 games all he did was look for his own at the expense of his team. Yes, his teammates are terrible but they're still able to make shots if they're involved in the offence. That stretch he had a few years back when he was getting 10-12 assists a night is what the team needs. Not him getting a wildly inefficient 25 points a night.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Even though everyone seems to believe Kobe stays with the Lakers, I think they will agree to a buy out next year. The losing will be too much for him.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
LOL. If only Kobe knew how to play winning basketball as well as Cliff from the interwebz.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
sports_fan
Footballguy
kobe changes lanes without signaling
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I know this is off topic but the discussion of a new Bucks arena is beginning in Milwaukee. And, with the announcement today of the next few cities hosting a Final Four coming down today... is this a play the new owners could attempt for the future?
Build a new arena with us and we will bring a Final Four to Milwaukee. It would be something great for this city since Chicago has never had it although Chicago and Milwaukee have hosted rounds before the final four. Minneapolis has had it a number of times. Putting one in Milwaukee will get fans from Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin as far as local goes. Then, Milwaukee does have an airport that has flights from the country coming here. Plus, O'Hare is only a 90 minutes away.
Any chance this could be worked out between the NBA and NCAA behind closed doors to a proposal for a newer arena quick? Any chance of this happening?
Build a new arena with us and we will bring a Final Four to Milwaukee. It would be something great for this city since Chicago has never had it although Chicago and Milwaukee have hosted rounds before the final four. Minneapolis has had it a number of times. Putting one in Milwaukee will get fans from Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin as far as local goes. Then, Milwaukee does have an airport that has flights from the country coming here. Plus, O'Hare is only a 90 minutes away.
Any chance this could be worked out between the NBA and NCAA behind closed doors to a proposal for a newer arena quick? Any chance of this happening?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Let's all pretend that I never posted this.AAABatteries said:
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
sports_fan
Footballguy
wolves might not win again until rubio comes back
Instinctive
Footballguy
Mavs didn't even look good tonight. There were moments but...lots of sloppy play and the ball stuck a lot more than usual.
Aminu looked amazing though.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Paul Gasol is 1 of 6 players to go for
16K+ points
8K+ rebounds
3K+ assists
1.5K+ blocks
in their career.
Jabbar
Olajuon
Chamberlein
Duncan
Garnett
If anyone has any doubt Pau belongs in the HoF especially adding in his International play they are nuts.
Edited to change the bottom to blocks instead of assists again.
16K+ points
8K+ rebounds
3K+ assists
1.5K+ blocks
in their career.
Jabbar
Olajuon
Chamberlein
Duncan
Garnett
If anyone has any doubt Pau belongs in the HoF especially adding in his International play they are nuts.
Edited to change the bottom to blocks instead of assists again.
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Village Idiot
Pokerguy
This is the height of how good the Cav's can be.
Hawks still look good.
Your just ran into a team on a hot run.
19 3's was a Cavs franchise record and hitting their 1st 11 attempts is just ridiculous.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
They were scary. I never doubted that they would get it together and they'll still have some growing pains but they are too talented to not be there at the end. Todem's head might explode.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
What is the assist/ assist record? Should the bottom one be steals?
sports_fan
Footballguy
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Played extremely well last night. Tough stretch this week though...Denver on Monday...Spurs on Wednesday...at Washington Friday and home to Toronto Saturday.
Kev4029
Footballguy
Out of curiosity I used steals rather than blocks, Hakeem and Garnett made that last as well, along with Barkley, Karl Malone, Bird and Kidd.
I really think Garnett has become the most underrated player of my lifetime.
Kev4029
Footballguy
If he continues to play like he has since he joined the Kings, its a bargain.
Over the past two years with the Kings he has something like a 21 PER and a .568 TS% while averaging 21/6/3. He has been a top 5 SF over the last year. Nobody would be surprised to see him slip and get into his bad habits again though, so its a bit of a risk.
It's a very good deal. I think he would have got more than that on the market. I thought the Kings would have to overpay to keep him.
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