*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (6 Viewers)

[Bobcat10]

So glad I got to come see the Cavs of the previous 4 yrs tonight.

Still like this Giannis cat. Could have a nice one there in a few yrs swc.

 

[sporthenry]

Never should have traded Wiggins. Trade for Love, cool, but don't use Wiggins. If Minnesota said Wiggins or no deal then walk away.

I dunno about that. It's not like Wiggins has been an instant superstar. He's got a lot of work to do.

Love has been disappointing but I think Cleveland's got a better chance of keeping LeBron and building a title contender now than they would have if they didn't make that trade.

This team needs defense. Something Wiggins does and Love does not. His issues on offense would be easier to mask with this supporting cast.

Isn't Wiggins one of the worst odefensive players?

 

[MAC_32]

Never should have traded Wiggins. Trade for Love, cool, but don't use Wiggins. If Minnesota said Wiggins or no deal then walk away.

I dunno about that. It's not like Wiggins has been an instant superstar. He's got a lot of work to do.

Love has been disappointing but I think Cleveland's got a better chance of keeping LeBron and building a title contender now than they would have if they didn't make that trade.

This team needs defense. Something Wiggins does and Love does not. His issues on offense would be easier to mask with this supporting cast.

Isn't Wiggins one of the worst odefensive players?

cant say I've watched a second of him in Minnesota, but I saw enough in Kansas to think he is a great defender.

 

[SWC]

So glad I got to come see the Cavs of the previous 4 yrs tonight.

Still like this Giannis cat. Could have a nice one there in a few yrs swc.

him jabari and brandon knight could be a nice three to have for five years i hope they can keep knight bromigo

 

[DrJ]

Never should have traded Wiggins. Trade for Love, cool, but don't use Wiggins. If Minnesota said Wiggins or no deal then walk away.

I dunno about that. It's not like Wiggins has been an instant superstar. He's got a lot of work to do.

Love has been disappointing but I think Cleveland's got a better chance of keeping LeBron and building a title contender now than they would have if they didn't make that trade.

I thought they were trending in the right direction by getting lucky on the Wiggins thing. They had a nice young foundation with some serious upside between him and Irving. Not an instant title contender or anything, but a team that had some future potential if they developed the right way. Yeah he needs some work, but he's freakishly athletic, seems to have a good attitude, and presumably understands that he needs to put in the work to get to where he wants to be.

Now the situation they're in: If Lebron walks, Love will almost certainly jump ship as well and then they're going to be worse off than they were before Lebron came. A LOT worse off. That's my problem with it. Putting all of their eggs into the Lebron basket when he wasn't even committing to them long term except orally - supposedly for financial reasons. Oral commitments aren't really worth a heck of a lot and aren't baskets you really want to be putting all of your eggs into.

The Cavs will be back to square one and have squandered all of the luck that brought them a prospect like Wiggins if Lebron walks. A completely TERRIBLE outcome if it goes that way. A move that could set the franchise back an enormous amount. It seems like most wanted to give this about a 0 percent chance of happening when this whole Lebron/Love thing went down, and it's looking like they might have been a bit foolish to buy into Lebron's schpele.

 

[MAC_32]

Again, only themselves to blame.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Never should have traded Wiggins. Trade for Love, cool, but don't use Wiggins. If Minnesota said Wiggins or no deal then walk away.

I dunno about that. It's not like Wiggins has been an instant superstar. He's got a lot of work to do.

Love has been disappointing but I think Cleveland's got a better chance of keeping LeBron and building a title contender now than they would have if they didn't make that trade.

This team needs defense. Something Wiggins does and Love does not. His issues on offense would be easier to mask with this supporting cast.

Isn't Wiggins one of the worst odefensive players?

Wat

 

[Abraham]

The problem is that if the cavs don't go far love has no reason to stay.

 

[DrJ]

Never should have traded Wiggins. Trade for Love, cool, but don't use Wiggins. If Minnesota said Wiggins or no deal then walk away.

I dunno about that. It's not like Wiggins has been an instant superstar. He's got a lot of work to do.

Love has been disappointing but I think Cleveland's got a better chance of keeping LeBron and building a title contender now than they would have if they didn't make that trade.

This team needs defense. Something Wiggins does and Love does not. His issues on offense would be easier to mask with this supporting cast.

Isn't Wiggins one of the worst odefensive players?

Wat

Exactly - he's fine defensively and has potential to be great. And effort is a big part of defense. When you see a guy willing to put in the effort on the defensive side of the fence, I'd presume he's willing to work and can develop an offensive game on that basis (along with his freakish athleticism). Like Jimmy Buckets.

 

[Bobcat10]

Again, only themselves to blame.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

The org or fans/people? Not following you if you mean the fans.

 

[DrJ]

Again, only themselves to blame.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

The org or fans/people? Not following you if you mean the fans.

I'm sure he means the organization. The fans are helpless victims in this whole thing if that's the way it goes.

 

[Bobcat10]

Again, only themselves to blame.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

The org or fans/people? Not following you if you mean the fans.

I'm sure he means the organization. The fans are helpless victims in this whole thing if that's the way it goes.

"Anyone that trusted him only has themselves to blame."

 

[MAC_32]

Again, only themselves to blame.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

The org or fans/people? Not following you if you mean the fans.

more org than fans, but both. Org is repeating mistakes. Fans convinced themselves he wont leave again.

 

[RoxSolid]

Rondo 4-4 from 3 vs Boston 15 minutes into the game. 7-7 overall.

 

[Instinctive]

Rondo 4-4 from 3 vs Boston 15 minutes into the game. 7-7 overall.

And blocking shots and playing D. Because he's amazing.

Boston being incredibly classy too (not sarcasm): standing ovation when introduced, video tribute after first quarter, standing ovation between quarters.

Also: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12112888

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

 

[Raider Nation]

The game was in doubt for awhile, but the Knicks hung on to lose.

This team is unbelievably bad.

Losing by 25 tonight, at home, to an 8-23 team.

 

[Raider Nation]

Yep... this is definitely Manute's kid.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

The game was in doubt for awhile, but the Knicks hung on to lose.

This team is unbelievably bad.

Losing by 25 tonight, at home, to an 8-23 team.

#hopingforOkafor

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Yep... this is definitely Manute's kid.

I don't see the resemblance. Is it the hair?

 

[Raider Nation]

Yep... this is definitely Manute's kid.

I don't see the resemblance. Is it the hair?

Ha. Click the link to watch his highlights. He's already more athletic than pops ever was.

 

[SWC]

nuts brohans the bucks just lost to indy at home the bucks have a run of eastern teams here and they need to win these and they just blew it nuts take that to the bank

 

[nysfl2]

The game was in doubt for awhile, but the Knicks hung on to lose.

This team is unbelievably bad.

Losing by 25 tonight, at home, to an 8-23 team.

With all due respect to the crappiness of the knicks, the Pistons haven't lost since cutting Josh Smith.

 

[sporthenry]

The game was in doubt for awhile, but the Knicks hung on to lose.

This team is unbelievably bad.

Losing by 25 tonight, at home, to an 8-23 team.

#hopingforOkafor

I hope the freezers are working in New York that day.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

Fantastic game so far.

 

[No. 16]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

Fantastic game so far.I was worried a bit after the first quarter. Raptors were playing good d. I really don't get why teams try to play small against us.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Kobe just passed the ball rather than take the last shot. I don't think he's done that since Mark Madsen was one of his teammates.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

Spoiler

Fantastic game so far.

I was worried a bit after the first quarter. Raptors were playing good d. I really don't get why teams try to play small against us.Casey isn't too bright sometimes. Their biggest advantage was inside and he played JV 10 minutes. Terrible overreaction to GS's hot shooting in the 1st Q.

The GS announcers were getting a little carried away with it though. Toronto plays Amir and Patterson with 3 guards quite a bit. Even 3 guards with James Johnson at 4. When Ross was at the 4 was the only time they really went small and that was when they were down big already.

 

[No. 16]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

Spoiler

Fantastic game so far.

Spoiler

I was worried a bit after the first quarter. Raptors were playing good d. I really don't get why teams try to play small against us.

Casey isn't too bright sometimes. Their biggest advantage was inside and he played JV 10 minutes. Terrible overreaction to GS's hot shooting in the 1st Q.The GS announcers were getting a little carried away with it though. Toronto plays Amir and Patterson with 3 guards quite a bit. Even 3 guards with James Johnson at 4. When Ross was at the 4 was the only time they really went small and that was when they were down big already.

I think it had more to do with JV playing so little rather than the other bigs on the court.

Dubs won by 20 but the game was a lot closer.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Battle of conference titans coming up

Spoiler

Warriors by 10

Spoiler

Fantastic game so far.

Spoiler

I was worried a bit after the first quarter. Raptors were playing good d. I really don't get why teams try to play small against us.

Spoiler

Casey isn't too bright sometimes. Their biggest advantage was inside and he played JV 10 minutes. Terrible overreaction to GS's hot shooting in the 1st Q.The GS announcers were getting a little carried away with it though. Toronto plays Amir and Patterson with 3 guards quite a bit. Even 3 guards with James Johnson at 4. When Ross was at the 4 was the only time they really went small and that was when they were down big already.

I think it had more to do with JV playing so little rather than the other bigs on the court.

Dubs won by 20 but the game was a lot closer.

Casey has jerked around his minutes a ton this year. Just baffling at times.

A 14-0 run to close the game certainly makes it look worse than it was... though it was pretty clear the Warriors are a far better team. The rematch in Toronto, with Derozan back, will be a heck of a lot closer.

 

[sports_fan]

Saw this on Reddit. 1 hour of Wilt Chamberlain footage

 

[SWC]

sporster fan that is one heckk of a video and it takes me back take that to the bank bromigo thanks for posting

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

After the game last night Kerr was asked if in the moment he could appreciate the matchup between Curry and Lowry. He replied, "Not really. I prefer the matchups where Steph has a huge advantage."

That is a Popovich-level performance right there.

 

[Spartans Rule]

The game was in doubt for awhile, but the Knicks hung on to lose.

This team is unbelievably bad.

Losing by 25 tonight, at home, to an 8-23 team.

With all due respect to the crappiness of the knicks, the Pistons haven't lost since cutting Josh Smith.

Damn right. No shame in getting blown out by the Pistons. That's just what happens now.

(We'll see if I'm still saying this after their upcoming back-to-backs @SA and @DAL).

 

[saintfool]

Any reason why the Nugs and Griz game line so close?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Any reason why the Nugs and Griz game line so close?

2nd part of a back to back is always tough and top that with the thin air in Denver is why it is only -1.

 

[saintfool]

Any reason why the Nugs and Griz game line so close?

2nd part of a back to back is always tough and top that with the thin air in Denver is why it is only -1.

I'm not sure that's enough for - 1 but that's why folks bet.

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawks (for today) have the best record in the East. Another measuring stick game tonight @Portland. 2nd game of a back to back doesn't seem to give us much of a chance. Excited to watch Teague vs. Lilliard.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Any reason why the Nugs and Griz game line so close?

2nd part of a back to back is always tough and top that with the thin air in Denver is why it is only -1.

I'm not sure that's enough for - 1 but that's why folks bet.

Denver is always good at home. Even this year they are +.500 there while being horrific on the road. Memphis doesn't blow teams out so it should be a close one. I wouldn't touch it.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Well they found out quick didn't they....

Josh Smith to the bench for the Rockets. Best served off the bench to 'lead' 2nd unit (if going to roster him). The guy is poison if using for significant minutes on a consistent basis. He's simply not a role player & isn't going to change his game at 29.

Now let's see how he handles the demotion.....

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Mirotic gets caught flat-footed, forgets to block out Sullinger who gets an easy offensive board and ties the score with two seconds in the game.

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawks up 20 on the Blazers in Portland.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Hawks up 20 on the Blazers in Portland.

Portland made a run, and got it close (thanks to a bunch of shanked Atlanta FT's), but they couldn't hit their shots.

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawks up 20 on the Blazers in Portland.

Hawks hang on - Blazers made a furious run at the end. Huge win.

That's now wins @Dal, @Hou, @Por - next @LAC

 

[AAABatteries]

Hawks up 20 on the Blazers in Portland.

Portland made a run, and got it close (thanks to a bunch of shanked Atlanta FT's), but they couldn't hit their shots.

Yeah - the FT shooting wasn't great.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

The Bucks at the moment:

17-17 on the season

13-13 in non-division games

11-11 against the East

10-10 on the road

7-7 at home

6-6 against the West

5-5 in their last 10 games

4-4 against the Central

 

[SWC]

The Bucks at the moment:

17-17 on the season

13-13 in non-division games

11-11 against the East

10-10 on the road

7-7 at home

6-6 against the West

5-5 in their last 10 games

4-4 against the Central

one thing that sticks out to me is that they have also generally been in all of there games they have only been blown out a few times that is quite a difference from last year thanks for the cool stats take that to the bank bromigo

 

[tommyGunZ]

After the game last night Kerr was asked if in the moment he could appreciate the matchup between Curry and Lowry. He replied, "Not really. I prefer the matchups where Steph has a huge advantage."

That is a Popovich-level performance right there.

Kerr is awesome.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

After the game last night Kerr was asked if in the moment he could appreciate the matchup between Curry and Lowry. He replied, "Not really. I prefer the matchups where Steph has a huge advantage."

That is a Popovich-level performance right there.

Kerr is awesome.

When Kerr was at U of Arizona, he once told the student newspaper the basketball team's New Year's Resolution was to help Lute Olson kick his heroin habit. Kerr got to visit a couple of bureaucrats' offices after that story ran.

 

[Abraham]

Well they found out quick didn't they....

Josh Smith to the bench for the Rockets. Best served off the bench to 'lead' 2nd unit (if going to roster him). The guy is poison if using for significant minutes on a consistent basis. He's simply not a role player & isn't going to change his game at 29.

Now let's see how he handles the demotion.....

He played well last night.