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Netflix Original: Stranger Things (1 Viewer)

Great season. I was a little worried the first couple episodes, where the focus was on the undefined body-snatching rather than creature horror. I thought maybe they spent so much money on remaking all the locations into 80's spots that they had to use human actors as the monsters, and would focus way more on the interpersonal stuff than the sci-fi stuff. Whoops could not have been more wrong, it was a great balance with the best creature horror yet imo.

Great character development.

The Russians stuff was all a bit over the top and over done, but so were the tropes and source material it's an homage to, so. 

Only thing I could have done without was the "Hopper as stereotypical 80's sitcom dad" caricature. That one could have been left in the past, but it served it's purpose and led to some funny scenes. Made him very unlikable at times however. 

Agree that Robin is already a top character (and really like her wingman/buddy relationship with Steve). Also agree that she has "it". Even something about her voice just has a weight to it. She killed every scene.

Agreed with everyone about the credits scene. One fun (but unlikely) alternate theory: 

What if the captured prisoner is Brennan? Wanting to continue his work he defected, or something, and it didn't go as planned once he spilled the science to the Russians. They sure knew a lot about the ####show in Hawkins. 

But it's probably Hopper.

What's the implication with the pet Demogorgon they have? That they had the gate open just long enough to capture one? Or that they raised a slug to adulthood? Remember, there was a scene with Erica (when she found the tazer) where she points to a big shark-cage looking thing and asks "how big did you say the demogorgon was?"

Maybe the Russians prime interest was surprisingly not just the opening of a gate to mess with America, as that would be suicidal long term. Maybe they hoped to stick around and weaponize the demogorgon creatures themselves.

Not really sure how theirs is still alive actually with the gate closed. All the demodogs died last season instantly when the gate closed. So is that implying they have a stable, open gate of their own?

In fact, how are they even holding on to that fully-grown demogorgon? Can't it make it's own mini-gates into the Upside Down to escape? See: the creepy tree trunk scene from season one and the shed scene from season one when it actually abducted Will. Maybe it's not fully matured yet.
 
Producers, I get it.  This takes place in the 80s. 
2 eps in

I was actually wondering if this show was set in 2015 would it be as popular or even renewed for a 2nd season?

A huuuge appeal is the pulling on the nostalgia strings

 
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question for those that have completed Season 3

did they say where the Byers and 11 were moving too?  I remember Bob wanted to move the family in season 2 to Maine but I can't recall if they mentioned specifically where they were going at the end of season 3
 
question for those that have completed Season 3

did they say where the Byers and 11 were moving too?  I remember Bob wanted to move the family in season 2 to Maine but I can't recall if they mentioned specifically where they were going at the end of season 3
Not that i recall

 
Just finished. Another great season.

I think season 4 will be the last one. The Duffer brothers said they wouldn't stretch this out for too long and those "kids" are no longer kids. With the ending credit scene, I think it's a lock for season 4 though.

 
Just finished. Another great season.

I think season 4 will be the last one. The Duffer brothers said they wouldn't stretch this out for too long and those "kids" are no longer kids. With the ending credit scene, I think it's a lock for season 4 though.
I believe they said previously it is a 4-season show. 

 
NewlyRetired said:
question for those that have completed Season 3

did they say where the Byers and 11 were moving too?  I remember Bob wanted to move the family in season 2 to Maine but I can't recall if they mentioned specifically where they were going at the end of season 3
They did not mention it

 
Capella said:
I believe they said previously it is a 4-season show. 
Cant remember where but heard in the  past week it is a 5 season plan. Take with a huge grain of salt for sure

 
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NewlyRetired said:
I finished season 3 today.  

My whole family enjoyed it.  It was made to binge.  

A few more laughs than the other 2 seasons but the pace of the 8 episodes was solid as was the normal good writing.

If you enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2, I think you will find some level of enjoyment from season 3.

Please do not read the spoiler if you have not seen the full season.

I am 95% sure Hopper is alive for 2 main reasons

1) his death by lightning was not shown

2) I feel like "The American" in the closed cell at the very end in the Russian prison was referring to Hopper
Agree 100%. When #1 happened told my GF the same thing. That is an age old trope

 
Great season. I was a little worried the first couple episodes, where the focus was on the undefined body-snatching rather than creature horror. I thought maybe they spent so much money on remaking all the locations into 80's spots that they had to use human actors as the monsters, and would focus way more on the interpersonal stuff than the sci-fi stuff. Whoops could not have been more wrong, it was a great balance with the best creature horror yet imo.

Great character development.

The Russians stuff was all a bit over the top and over done, but so were the tropes and source material it's an homage to, so. 

Only thing I could have done without was the "Hopper as stereotypical 80's sitcom dad" caricature. That one could have been left in the past, but it served it's purpose and led to some funny scenes. Made him very unlikable at times however. 

Agree that Robin is already a top character (and really like her wingman/buddy relationship with Steve). Also agree that she has "it". Even something about her voice just has a weight to it. She killed every scene.

Agreed with everyone about the credits scene. One fun (but unlikely) alternate theory: 

What if the captured prisoner is Brennan? Wanting to continue his work he defected, or something, and it didn't go as planned once he spilled the science to the Russians. They sure knew a lot about the ####show in Hawkins. 

But it's probably Hopper.

What's the implication with the pet Demogorgon they have? That they had the gate open just long enough to capture one? Or that they raised a slug to adulthood? Remember, there was a scene with Erica (when she found the tazer) where she points to a big shark-cage looking thing and asks "how big did you say the demogorgon was?"

Maybe the Russians prime interest was surprisingly not just the opening of a gate to mess with America, as that would be suicidal long term. Maybe they hoped to stick around and weaponize the demogorgon creatures themselves.

Not really sure how theirs is still alive actually with the gate closed. All the demodogs died last season instantly when the gate closed. So is that implying they have a stable, open gate of their own?

In fact, how are they even holding on to that fully-grown demogorgon? Can't it make it's own mini-gates into the Upside Down to escape? See: the creepy tree trunk scene from season one and the shed scene from season one when it actually abducted Will. Maybe it's not fully matured yet.
Wife and I have finished 6 of the S3 episodes. Now, I like the show though my wife is a bigger fan than I. I have to say I’m kind of disappointed so far. Honestly, to me it’s been a bit boring, I kept finding myself dozing off.

To each their own but I haven’t been impressed with Robin like everyone else has been. I find her kind of forgettable, I certainly don’t see any “star power” that others do. She’s just kind of “there”. It must just be me though.

i agree with whoever mentioned “yeah, we know it’s the 80’s” idea. While I thought the first episode was charming and at least somewhat authentic in its portrayal of the time period this 3rd season seems contrived and forced in that dimension. 

I also thought some of the writing/dialogue (character development) was forced and over the top. I never really had a problem with Winona Ryder in the first 2 seasons but damn if she didn’t really begin to grate on me in these 6episodes. Some of the scenes between her and the sheriff just went on too damn long and were really boring. On several occasions I found myself saying “ok, get on with it already”.

Havent finished the season so maybe that’s a big part of it with me. I’m also no critic, just want to be entertained. I loved the 80’s, essentially grew up then (college, first house, etc) and the subject matter is certainly in my wheelhouse. Just left me disappointed and often annoyed.

 
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It seemed like every character was in a state of annoyance all the time.  Was not enjoyable.

Tonally was all over the place.  Lot of people just died should I be laughing 5 seconds later in next scene.

How they resolved steve's season long storyline was so "woke."  Way to be so edgy Duffer bros.

Mike's acting was scene ruining at times.  Never had a problem with any of the kids' acting.  Mike was brutal this season though.

 
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It seemed like every character was in a state of annoyance all the time.  Was not enjoyable.

Tonally was all over the place.  Lot of people just died should I be laughing 5 seconds later in next scene.

How they resolved steve's season long storyline was so "woke."  Way to be so edgy Duffer bros.

Mike's acting was scene ruining at times.  Never had a problem with any of the kids' acting.  Mike was brutal this season though.
The problem is that 2 of the other boys are horrid actors (the ones who play Lucas and Will).  They have to give lines to some of the boys and Mike/Dustin actors are at least serviceable.

 
For those that are watching, the new character of Robin is Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke's daughter.
I knew this was Maya Hawke going into starting my family's long weekend binge. Maybe it was because I knew, but she is a spitting image of her mom. And agree, clearly a standout actor who absolultely stole every scene -- much kudos to her. David Harbour (Hopper) and Joe Keery (Steve) are also standouts on this show for me, as is Winona Ryder (Joyce) though I think she's too often over the top/overacting.

For those busting on Finn Wolfhard (Mike), I totally get it, but seems a little harsh to bust on a child actor. Yeah, he's unpolished and doesn't hold a candle compared to a lot of child actors (Tatum O'Neil, Jody Foster, Haley Joel Osement, whoever you want to put in the category of great child actors/performances) -- but c'mon, were you expecting a DeNiro or a Streep-type of performance as a kid? Seems overcritical to bust kid actors for not having the range/experience compared to other actors.

All of the kid actors on the show are still developing in terms of craft. The best one on the show is Gaten Matarazzo, IMHO -- head and shoulders better than Millie Bobbie Brown, who for some reason gets all the accolades. All I want is if they can credibly come across as the kids they are, which is good enough for me. 

NewlyRetired said:
I finished season 3 today.  

My whole family enjoyed it.  It was made to binge.  

A few more laughs than the other 2 seasons but the pace of the 8 episodes was solid as was the normal good writing.

If you enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2, I think you will find some level of enjoyment from season 3.

Please do not read the spoiler if you have not seen the full season.

I am 95% sure Hopper is alive for 2 main reasons

1) his death by lightning was not shown

2) I feel like "The American" in the closed cell at the very end in the Russian prison was referring to Hopper
Interesting theory. I immediately thought of your #2, and like you think that's the most likely way the show will go - while I think @ConnSKINS26 has a good counter theory, another theory could be that 

The American in that cell is Murray Bauman. We never actually saw what happened to him after he and Joyce escaped from the lab - at least that I recall. He spoke Russian, had tons of theories and research around Barb Holland's disappearance, the Hawkins National Laboratory, etc. that might prove useful as well to the Russians. Hop ends up in the Upside Down world, having jumped through the gate last second to at least survive. S4 will be about the gang needing to open it up yet again to save him.
 
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It seemed like every character was in a state of annoyance all the time.  Was not enjoyable.

Tonally was all over the place.  Lot of people just died should I be laughing 5 seconds later in next scene.

How they resolved steve's season long storyline was so "woke."  Way to be so edgy Duffer bros.

Mike's acting was scene ruining at times.  Never had a problem with any of the kids' acting.  Mike was brutal this season though.
When child actors are first starting out they don't try to do much. They just hit their marks and deliver the lines as themselves. Their inexperience works to their advantage in terms of their performance. They they get a little fame, get a little older, the show gets super hyped and think they have to be "great". End up pushing, try to do too much. Happens all the time.

 
my thoughts below:

after the last explosion, not only did Hopper disappear but so did all of the Russians.  There were no soldiers being marched out in handcuffs when Joyce reunited with Will and the kids, there were no bodies.  Where did all of the Russians go?

I think somehow they were all transported back to Russia; Hopper included.  no idea how.

Also - I'd like point out how in season 1, Eleven was being trained as a spy to eavesdrop on Russians.  That was her whole thing.  I think there is a connection here.
 
my thoughts below:

after the last explosion, not only did Hopper disappear but so did all of the Russians.  There were no soldiers being marched out in handcuffs when Joyce reunited with Will and the kids, there were no bodies.  Where did all of the Russians go?

I think somehow they were all transported back to Russia; Hopper included.  no idea how.

Also - I'd like point out how in season 1, Eleven was being trained as a spy to eavesdrop on Russians.  That was her whole thing.  I think there is a connection here.

many of the soldiers who were near the explosion were shown to disintegrate by the lighting.  Hopper was specifically not shown.  I like your tie of 11 to the flashbacks in season 1, that is interesting
 
many of the soldiers who were near the explosion were shown to disintegrate by the lighting.  Hopper was specifically not shown.  I like your tie of 11 to the flashbacks in season 1, that is interesting

There were plenty of Russian guards and scientists who weren't right there near the "gate"...where did they all go?
 
There were plenty of Russian guards and scientists who weren't right there near the "gate"...where did they all go?

I thought they showed some evacuating the building near the end.  I will watch closer on my second watch of the series
 
Producers, I get it.  This takes place in the 80s. 


One of the things that made me not go gaga over the show.  Not nearly as bad as Ready Player One, but waaaaay too interested in showing you just how 80s this was.  
I don't know, I think it makes the show what it is.  My son keeps asking me if that was really what it was like then.  Most of the time, the answer is yes.  The show is a combo mystery, action and history lesson for him.  We are loving it. 

Due to many vacation/holiday/camp events, we are only 2 episodes in so far.

 
More a general description than a spoiler, but just to be safe:

Man, I thought this season was way more scary and borderline actual horror than 1 and 2.
 
I liked the 80's references. Fast time at Ridgemont high was a big tie-in with the mall scenes, mentioning Phoebe Cates, playing the Car's song that played when Phoebe Cates did her famous pool scene. I also liked that the evil russian thug was made to look a lot like the Terminator. I am sure that was not a coincidence. Enjoyed seeing the Sam Goody store. I spent a lot of time in Sam Goody.

 
I liked the 80's references. Fast time at Ridgemont high was a big tie-in with the mall scenes, mentioning Phoebe Cates, playing the Car's song that played when Phoebe Cates did her famous pool scene. I also liked that the evil russian thug was made to look a lot like the Terminator. I am sure that was not a coincidence. Enjoyed seeing the Sam Goody store. I spent a lot of time in Sam Goody.
I was happy at the end when Steve is fumbling at the end with the Phoebe Cates stand because I was able to point it out to my daughter since she did not get the references Dustin kept making that his gf was hotter than Phoebe Cates.

 
I liked the 80's references. Fast time at Ridgemont high was a big tie-in with the mall scenes, mentioning Phoebe Cates, playing the Car's song that played when Phoebe Cates did her famous pool scene. I also liked that the evil russian thug was made to look a lot like the Terminator. I am sure that was not a coincidence. Enjoyed seeing the Sam Goody store. I spent a lot of time in Sam Goody.
Yeah, I'm not getting that critique.  This show has always been a love letter to the 80s with piles of 80s references for fan service.  If it's starting to overshadow the story, it's probably because the story quality has declined.  While I enjoyed Season 3, I did think it was a bit all over the place.

 
1. What was the goal of the flayed?  Were they just going to walk around like zombies until the monster needed them to melt into him?  Why didn't Billy melt too?

2.  Speaking of Billy, couldn't they have killed him and then ALL of the flayed die?  Sort of like how they killed the newspaper boss and the reporter guy died instantly.

3.  Regarding all the people murdered at the hospital, why didn't they become flayed?  Was it just a matter of time?

4.  And with the Russians speaking of the American at the end, I agree that Hopper seems like the most obvious answer but it could be many different people.  Maybe the head lab guy from season 1?/spoiler]
 
many of the soldiers who were near the explosion were shown to disintegrate by the lighting.  Hopper was specifically not shown.  I like your tie of 11 to the flashbacks in season 1, that is interesting

Not sure that because they disintegrated, they are necessarily dead/gone. Recall that El disintegrates at the end of Season 1.
 
I don't know, I think it makes the show what it is.  My son keeps asking me if that was really what it was like then.  Most of the time, the answer is yes.  The show is a combo mystery, action and history lesson for him.  We are loving it. 

Due to many vacation/holiday/camp events, we are only 2 episodes in so far.
I can definitely see the appeal for families with children.  I guess I just prefer more subtle references like The Americans.   Here it seems that more time and effort is placed on the facade as opposed to the actual story.  

 
I can definitely see the appeal for families with children.  I guess I just prefer more subtle references like The Americans.   Here it seems that more time and effort is placed on the facade as opposed to the actual story.  
In my opinion, this series captures the tone of day to day living as a kid in the 80s like nothing else I've seen.  Goldbergs is a fun throwback but full of anachronisms.  Americans is good for the US vs Russian thing but again feels like a modern piece set in the 80s.  This show actually feels like stepping into the 80s.  Frankly I enjoy that aspect of it more than anything else, and even to the point that I don't mind that the show has become formulaic in its approach and that the story flow seems all over the place.

 
Another thing that I thought was great about the ending:

Planck's Constant.  Saving the world depended on using a souped up HAM radio at the top of a hill to find the one person they knew who might know Planck's Constant.  Today, you can just do a Google search.
 
1. What was the goal of the flayed?  Were they just going to walk around like zombies until the monster needed them to melt into him?  Why didn't Billy melt too?

2.  Speaking of Billy, couldn't they have killed him and then ALL of the flayed die?  Sort of like how they killed the newspaper boss and the reporter guy died instantly.

3.  Regarding all the people murdered at the hospital, why didn't they become flayed?  Was it just a matter of time?

4.  And with the Russians speaking of the American at the end, I agree that Hopper seems like the most obvious answer but it could be many different people.  Maybe the head lab guy from season 1?/spoiler]


1. I think Billy was still needed in human form to lure/track the kids.  The others were expendable.

2. Good question.  This was weird.  I am not sure we have seen it before that when one dies others die with it.  Not sure how to address this.

3. Others who were "flayed" didn't seem to be killed.  They were brought to the monster thingy alive and then possessed by it.  Maybe those in the hospital were just flat out killed and not possessed.

4.  I'm going with Hopper.


 
Another thing that I thought was great about the ending:

Planck's Constant.  Saving the world depended on using a souped up HAM radio at the top of a hill to find the one person they knew who might know Planck's Constant.  Today, you can just do a Google search.
They could have asked the science teacher

 
If he was where they were.  But he wasn't.
Well, the radio antenna needed to communicate with Suzie wasn't where they were either.  But, hey, they needed to get Suzie into the story.

ETA...just remembered they had to go to the radio tower anyway to communicate with the adults

 
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I watched the first season and thought it was okay, albeit a bit juvenile.  I did not watch last season at all, did it get better?

 
Godsbrother said:
I watched the first season and thought it was okay, albeit a bit juvenile.  I did not watch last season at all, did it get better?
Not really, especially if you didn't like S1 much.  I just watched the first 4 episodes of S2 after being "meh" on S1 and it was more of the same.   I don't think I will continue on with it.  

 
Not really, especially if you didn't like S1 much.  I just watched the first 4 episodes of S2 after being "meh" on S1 and it was more of the same.   I don't think I will continue on with it.  
Thanks.   I thought it was okay at first, kind of a throwback to Stephen King and Steven Spielberg but after a while the novelty kind of wore off.  

 
bigbottom said:
Another thing that I thought was great about the ending:

Planck's Constant.  Saving the world depended on using a souped up HAM radio at the top of a hill to find the one person they knew who might know Planck's Constant.  Today, you can just do a Google search.

Forget about the ability to be able to look up Planck's Constant instantaneously -- just the time it took to get that info from Suzie with having to sing that song might have enabled Hopper to not have to face the Russian terminator and actually escape, and may have saved Billy's life. Though I'd argue Billy wasn't worth saving anyway.
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Forget about the ability to be able to look up Planck's Constant instantaneously -- just the time it took to get that info from Suzie with having to sing that song might have enabled Hopper to not have to face the Russian terminator and actually escape, and may have saved Billy's life. Though I'd argue Billy wasn't worth saving anyway.
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Dang, I totally didn't think about that.  Utah girl may have killed both Hopper and redemption Billy.
 

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