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Netflix Original: Stranger Things (1 Viewer)

Thanks.   I thought it was okay at first, kind of a throwback to Stephen King and Steven Spielberg but after a while the novelty kind of wore off.  
I think if you aren't on board for the novelty of it, it's even more of an uphill battle with the show.  

Also at the start of S2, one of the group did something dumb that had my eyes rolling a bit, so combine that with feeling that not much new happens despite being 1/2 way through the season, and :shrug:

 
Godsbrother said:
I watched the first season and thought it was okay, albeit a bit juvenile.  I did not watch last season at all, did it get better?
if you thought season 1 was just Ok probably will not like S2 or 3

 
We watched season 3 this weekend and I'm a big fan. My son thought season 3 was the best season yet. I certainly can't complain when we find a show where myself, my wife and our 18 and 16 year old kids want to sit down and watch something together. It really is probably much the same as the first 2 seasons so I think if you have watched a season and it didn't appeal to you then you can decide not to keep trying to make it work. 

 
Made it thru 5 episodes so far, excellent season.
Finished it off over the weekend, great season. Some minor annoyances like Winona Ryder and Hopper really didn't have much to do at all until towards the back half, but tying back the speech in the end was well crafted. Poor Steve can't catch a break, but continues to be a stand-up guy despite being the steretypical popular guy at school. Him paired up with mini-Uma, Chuck and Lucas' little sister made for some really entertaining scenes.

If there was a netflix show that would probably benefit from the traditional weekly episode format instead of binging, this would be it. So many episodes end on great cliffhangers.

Was convinced that Hopper jumped into the "gate" which is why we didn't see him die, but that after credits scene obviously calls things into question.

Anyone else notice that the captured demi-dog was not a dog anymore? But had morphed into a two-legged humanoid type, that has to be on purpose for next season.

Assuming the reason for the flayed consuming the chemicals was so that they would break down easily and be able to join the creature at a moments notice? With a side-effect of eliminating 11's powers?

Poor Steve, falls for a hot nerdy chick that is super cool, turns out she's gay. :clyde:
 
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Also, totally makes sense they had to delay the airing of the season for special effects reasons. The creature effects were pretty gory and front and center in the story nearly every episode unlike a lot of the more suspense type scares they had in the prior two seasons.

 
Thanks.   I thought it was okay at first, kind of a throwback to Stephen King and Steven Spielberg but after a while the novelty kind of wore off.  
Yeah, I thought this show would have been right up my alley but I never made it through S1.

 
Is the spoiler moratorium up? Have lots of thoughts but don't want to have to hide it, and all further discussions. Is anyone really wandering into this thread to talk about just seeing Season 1 or 2? 

 
Is the spoiler moratorium up? Have lots of thoughts but don't want to have to hide it, and all further discussions. Is anyone really wandering into this thread to talk about just seeing Season 1 or 2? 
Go for it.  I avoided this thread until I watched season 3.  If others aren't smart enough to do that then they deserve spoilers.

 
Finished last night, and my thoughts:

  • WTF is up with Dustin's teeth? Last season there was a specific scene where he showed off how they finally came in. Then this season, they are gone again? If it had something to do with a real-life related thing, they either didn't do a good job explaining it in the story, or just pretended nothing happened. Not a big deal, but I kept wondering about it. 
  • The Terminator homage throughout with the Russian was pretty blatant, and there were so many others, but I think an important one is the Hopper "death" scene as it seemed like a Kirk/Spock at the end of "Wrath of Khan" deal. So maybe that means next season is "Stranger Things: The Search for Hop" and it will involve having to OPEN the portal, instead of closing it because he either jumped in there, got pushed/pulled in there (because it was "open 3 inches"), or got taken to Russia and is now on the other end of the one in Hawkins. 
  • The Uma/Ethan kid is like a shape-shifter. One scene you look at her and you see her mom, then the next scene she's looking like her dad. She's like a Conan "If They Mated" bit, come to life. 
  • I never really understood: 1) Why the things were eating chemicals, 2) What was the purpose of the rats exploding, 3) What the body snatcher army was "for" in regards to being assembled for Eleven?
 
A few episodes in, I feel like it's season 2 deja vu.  I'm interested enough to keep watching but also annoyed that my time is being wasted.  Excruciating plot development.  I assume something cool happens eventually.  As of now all I can say is little Mike looks older than Steve, I guess it makes sense all he wants to do is suck face.

Actually let's face it, if not for the fact that my better half is a fan I would have thrown in the towel last year and this wouldn't even be on my radar.  But here I am, just hopeful that it picks up again..

 
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Finished last night, and my thoughts:

  • WTF is up with Dustin's teeth? Last season there was a specific scene where he showed off how they finally came in. Then this season, they are gone again? If it had something to do with a real-life related thing, they either didn't do a good job explaining it in the story, or just pretended nothing happened. Not a big deal, but I kept wondering about it. 
Here is the short version

1) The writers never intended for Dustin to not have teeth but once they cast Gaton the role, they decided to use his issue with cleidocranial dysplasia and build it into the character

2) In season 2, much like in real life, Dustin/Gaton got himself a prosthetic for his front teeth

3) In season 3, much like in real life, Dustin/Gaton removes the prosthetic because he had some surgeries to help his teeth be pulled down (I guess the prosthetic works against this from progressing).  The surgeries were not mentioned in Season 3 but he does have a line where he says "Suzie doesn't care that his real pearls are still coming in" which is in regard to what is happening in real life.

 
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Finished last night, and my thoughts:

  • I never really understood: 1) Why the things were eating chemicals, 2) What was the purpose of the rats exploding, 3) What the body snatcher army was "for" in regards to being assembled for Eleven?
Chemicals weren't explained AFAIK, my guess is either they were needed for attacking Eleven to take her powers or so that the bodies would break down to join the creature. Rats exploded so they would break down into their composite flesh and goop in order to join the creature and make it bigger. Assuming the army was to hide in plain sight, and grab more bodies, and they were then sacrificed and broken down to absorb into the creature to make it huge. Couldn't absorb everybody right away or it would have been too big and unable to hide until it was ready to attack.

 
Chemicals weren't explained AFAIK, my guess is either they were needed for attacking Eleven to take her powers or so that the bodies would break down to join the creature. Rats exploded so they would break down into their composite flesh and goop in order to join the creature and make it bigger. Assuming the army was to hide in plain sight, and grab more bodies, and they were then sacrificed and broken down to absorb into the creature to make it huge. Couldn't absorb everybody right away or it would have been too big and unable to hide until it was ready to attack.
Here is a deeper dive into the question if people are curious

https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Why-Do-Infected-People-Eat-Chemicals-Stranger-Things-46347275

 
2) In season 2, much like in real life, Dustin/Gaton got himself a prosthetic for his front teeth
So the Season 2 part where he shows them off, they were fake in the show? I must have missed that, and assumed his real ones finally came in. But if they were fake in the show, too, then it makes more sense. 

 
Throwing in a few of my thoughts:

  • I thought the world building was very good this season...I don't see it as slow. I like that there being 3 different investigations/discoveries going on at the same time. It made the threat feel bigger. 
  • I thought Billy was the breakout star of the season. 
  • The season opened with attending a zombie movie, and that was emulated throughout the episodes. The season ended with Back to the Future - is that foreshadowing for season 4? Maybe time travel is what gets Hopper back on the show?
  • Hopper was too over the top oafish for my taste - just a huge grump/overprotective dad/yelly face guy.
  • Eating the cleaners and such - I took that to be a preparation for sacrificing to the beast. It made their bodies easier to gooify...we saw occasional bones being left behind that didn't dissolve.

    I think rats (and other small creatures we don't see) were so easily corrupted that they didn't need direct contact with the flayer. Humans are more complex, so they required direct insemination. 

[*]The in credits monster seems like a demogorgon-human hybrid. Maybe it's the final evolution after additional contact with the surface world?

Overall, I think Season 3 was my favorite so far, and it was a nice recovery after season two failed to up the ante. Some of that could be lowered expectations, but I thought this season did the best job with the scares, and I loved the mall setting. Go see it!

 
JB Breakfast Club said:
The in credits monster seems like a demogorgon-human hybrid. Maybe it's the final evolution after additional contact with the surface world?
Barb definitely banged a demogorgon or two while she was in the upside down. 

 
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Season 1: monsters show up, everybody is like no way this could happen to us, little kid saves the day 

Season 2: monsters show up, everybody is like no way this could happen to us, little kid saves the day 

Season 3: monsters show up, everybody is STILL ####ING acting surprised that this #### is happening, team saves the day 

I mean I enjoyed it and all, but I thought the story was told at the end and they could have closed up shop. Not sure I’m in for more of the same in season 4. 

 
Season 1: monsters show up, everybody is like no way this could happen to us, little kid saves the day 

Season 2: monsters show up, everybody is like no way this could happen to us, little kid saves the day 

Season 3: monsters show up, everybody is STILL ####ING acting surprised that this #### is happening, team saves the day 

I mean I enjoyed it and all, but I thought the story was told at the end and they could have closed up shop. Not sure I’m in for more of the same in season 4. 
I was very happy Eleven wasn't the hero once again with her powers at the end. And I agree they could have wrapped it up here and I would have been happy, but hell, they've done pretty good, I'll give them a season 4.

 
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I was happy at the end when Steve is fumbling at the end with the Phoebe Cates stand because I was able to point it out to my daughter since she did not get the references Dustin kept making that his gf was hotter than Phoebe Cates.
The Phoebe poster as a clear movie-within-the-movie homage to the 5 Point Plan.

Overall, I liked season 3, but not as much as the previous ones.

Main complaints were (1) like the Duffers were trying too hard on the interpersonal relationships and it came across forced and awkward at times; and (2) the finale showdown scenes were very far-fetched even when you suspend reality.  

Given how much older and mature the kids look now, season 4 will be almost assuredly lose its luster from a youth standpoint.

 
I was very happy Eleven wasn't the hero once again with her powers at the end. And I agree they could have wrapped it up here and I would have been happy, but hell, they've done pretty good, I'll give them a season 4.
Thinking about it more, I did enjoy it quite a bit and will watch it all the way out, I just wish there was a way to make it feel not so repetitive. Maybe getting out of stupid Hawkins will help that. 

 
Thinking about it more, I did enjoy it quite a bit and will watch it all the way out, I just wish there was a way to make it feel not so repetitive. Maybe getting out of stupid Hawkins will help that. 
Most people thought the one episode from season 2 in Chicago was awful. Granted, Chicago may not have been the problem.  Speaking of this episode, I keep waiting for them to tie back in with the "lost sister" or some of the other numbered children.  I sort of expect season 4 to circle back to this at some point if they intend to wrap up this series.

 
Most people thought the one episode from season 2 in Chicago was awful. Granted, Chicago may not have been the problem.  Speaking of this episode, I keep waiting for them to tie back in with the "lost sister" or some of the other numbered children.  I sort of expect season 4 to circle back to this at some point if they intend to wrap up this series.
Agreed. And given they won’t be kids any more, I suspect that other adults like Poppa and probably El’s mom will be part of the wrap up.

 
The Phoebe poster as a clear movie-within-the-movie homage to the 5 Point Plan.

Overall, I liked season 3, but not as much as the previous ones.

Main complaints were (1) like the Duffers were trying too hard on the interpersonal relationships and it came across forced and awkward at times; and (2) the finale showdown scenes were very far-fetched even when you suspend reality.  

Given how much older and mature the kids look now, season 4 will be almost assuredly lose its luster from a youth standpoint.
Nice thought on the tie back to Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Damone's 5 point plan. As an aside, I never knew if the scene right after this one -- with Rat in the car with Stacy while Kashmir plays on the stereo -- was an unintentional mistake (clearly not side 1 of Zep 4), or purposeful in how bad the date is going thanks to Rat being a total f-up.

Agree the interpersonal relationships were forced in this season, especially the bickering "tension" between Joyce and Hop -- both of them overacting. The "talk" script that turned into a heartfelt letter from Hop to Eleven played much better. But from a story perspective, if indeed Hop is still alive somewhere, both helped set up the urgency of the potential plotline of getting him back. 

 
That would be awesome but they aren’t leaving the 80s. 
They damn well better not be.  I don't care about the plotline AT ALL as long as it still feels like I'm 12 again.  The Lovcraftian-ness of it and the chemistry among the actors are the icing on the cake.

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
As an aside, I never knew if the scene right after this one -- with Rat in the car with Stacy while Kashmir plays on the stereo -- was an unintentional mistake (clearly not side 1 of Zep 4), or purposeful in how bad the date is going thanks to Rat being a total f-up.
Not to derail this thread, but that’s been bandied about for years, including on this here board.

Everything I’ve read indicates that Cameron Crowe, who would never accidentally screw up music like that, couldn’t get the rights to Zep IV for the movie and thus went with “Kashmir” instead. The scene works because, as you say, Rat was a total f-up - even if that wasn’t Crowe’s original intent.

Good backstory here: 

http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/2013/06/21/did-cameron-crowe-use-kashmir-in-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high-even-though-it-didnt-fit-the-script/

 
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With all the Fast Times tie-ins, I thought the best one was the gender swap with Billy walking out slo-mo in the red swimsuit to Moving in Stereo. Pretty darn funny. 

 
With all the Fast Times tie-ins, I thought the best one was the gender swap with Billy walking out slo-mo in the red swimsuit to Moving in Stereo. Pretty darn funny. 
Would have been even better to have one of the wives walked in on and say “doesn’t anyone ####### knock any more?”. But alas, it’s basically a family show.

 
In my opinion, this series captures the tone of day to day living as a kid in the 80s like nothing else I've seen.  Goldbergs is a fun throwback but full of anachronisms.  Americans is good for the US vs Russian thing but again feels like a modern piece set in the 80s.  This show actually feels like stepping into the 80s.  Frankly I enjoy that aspect of it more than anything else, and even to the point that I don't mind that the show has become formulaic in its approach and that the story flow seems all over the place.
As said child of the 80's (closer to Steve's age) the show does transport me back and it feels pretty authentic. The hanging at the mall scenes where pretty spot on.

They damn well better not be.  I don't care about the plotline AT ALL as long as it still feels like I'm 12 again.  The Lovcraftian-ness of it and the chemistry among the actors are the icing on the cake.
Well I care about the plot line a little but this show does transport me back to the heyday of 1983-84 when I was top of the food chain in HS. Actually from about 83-89 my life was pretty solid between HS & college. This show tends to stir up a lot of those good memories.

 
I thought Billy was the breakout star of the season. 
Each to his own, I guess. I thought his performance this year and last were shallow/hollow. Way too much a caricature than a character. 

He annoyed me every time he was on screen -- and not in that "he's supposed to annoy you" King Joffrey-type of performance (Jack Gleeson really embodied this kind of character to perfection).

More in terms of his acting just seeming way too thin and transparent.

Steve and Robin were the standouts this season, IMHO.

 
What a fantastic season this was, far and away the best to me.  The 80’s mall backdrop for everything was perfect.  

I like how with each season they seem to adopt new 80’s tropes.  This season I got more of a Body Snatchers vibe; I don’t remember that being a thing before but I might just be forgetting.  

Agree with others about the show harkening back to our inner nostalgia.  I swear American culture will never be that good again.  Silverhawks, Mr. Wizard, cassette tapes, take me back!  

 
So Hopper is the American right?  This is what we’re telling ourselves.
Seems too obvious IMHO. Could be any one of a handful of other folks - Murray, El’s sister, Paul Reiser, Poppa.

 
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The residents of Hawkins are the absolute most oblivious people in the world. 

Shootout and murders during the fair, giant monster trapesing through the woods, mass murder in an active hospital, and a giant loud battle in the mall and not a person in the whole town noticed save one kid on a ferris wheel that brushed it aside. 

 
I can see your point

but if not Hopper in the prison cell, it is some one we definitely know: Barb or Bob (doubtful) or Papa (Modine) maybe....
Haven't read to see if anyone else speculated so I will add mine.  My son and I agree on this...

the kid's teacher?  I first thought Hopper too, but thought more about this...who else knows electromagnets and had everyone else figuring things out.  His theory on Hopper was that he jumped into the gate before it was totally closed and is therefore in the upside down
 
It seemed like every character was in a state of annoyance all the time.  Was not enjoyable.

Tonally was all over the place.  Lot of people just died should I be laughing 5 seconds later in next scene.

How they resolved steve's season long storyline was so "woke."  Way to be so edgy Duffer bros.

Mike's acting was scene ruining at times.  Never had a problem with any of the kids' acting.  Mike was brutal this season though.
I still enjoyed it all...but to me Mike and Will brought it down.  Maybe its part that the novelty of kids being really good actors wore off and they just aren't that good to me anymore (at least a few of them)?  But I thought Lucas, Max and Dustin were all still great.

Im waiting for Steve's actor to demand to have one season where he isn't constantly getting his ### kicked
 
It seemed like every character was in a state of annoyance all the time.  Was not enjoyable.

Tonally was all over the place.  Lot of people just died should I be laughing 5 seconds later in next scene.

How they resolved steve's season long storyline was so "woke."  Way to be so edgy Duffer bros.

Mike's acting was scene ruining at times.  Never had a problem with any of the kids' acting.  Mike was brutal this season though.
I can agree with this.  I think it's the Marvel affect where everyone feels like they have to inject lighthearted wit and humor into every scene now.

We're a long ways from watching Joyce descend into madness over her missing/presumed dead child while desperately plastering lights all over her house in season 1.

I'm not sure how a show about interdimensional monsters can jump the shark but this one kind of seemed to do it this season with some of the over the top stuff.  Still a fun watch, though.

 

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