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Netflix Original: Stranger Things (1 Viewer)

have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia

 
Stinkin Ref said:
have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia
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Yeah....no.

But if you're an 80s nostalgia nerd, that might get you over the hump.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia
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Zero hope of enjoying it.  Stay away.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia
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You will hate this show with the fury of a thousand suns.  

 
Stinkin Ref said:
have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia
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I don't know. I was never a fan of any of those things either, although I'd say I stopped short of ever being able to suspend reality for the purposes of entertainment. You can find problems with any show/movie if that's your position. 

To me the difference is if the show/movie is trying to go out of its way to explain why things can happen the way they are, or why the viewer should be buying in to the magic/fantasy aspect, that's where I'll have a problem. Because that's where it's so easy to poke holes and it becomes distracting as a viewer. 

Stranger Things passes that test for me. Unless I'm completely forgetting something, we don't know why the fantasy element exists (yet?) and they haven't tried to make us believe anything. It's simply...in this world, some people have some special powers and there's also this other thing going on which is causing a bit of a ruckus.

 
bigbottom said:
More a general description than a spoiler, but just to be safe:

Man, I thought this season was way more scary and borderline actual horror than 1 and 2.
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This season was definitely way more gory.

I enjoyed it a lot, but I will agree with some others that the acting of the kids was a little stunted at times. I think the writing was there for the interpersonal stuff, but the acting got in the way at times. At the same time, middle school/Jr high is a really awkward time, so the awkwardness of the kids wasn't totally out of place either. And yeah, the "tension" between Joyce and Hopper was a bit much. I commented to my wife that Joyce sure has had a crappy couple of years with men she loves.

I think someone mentioned it on a previous page, but I do think that Netflix releasing the full season all at once actually works against this show. I think that an episode a week would allow for everything to simmer much more and create a more lasting experience with the show. I don't think most people have the self-control to not binge it (me included since we watched it all in a week).

 
GroveDiesel said:
I do think that Netflix releasing the full season all at once actually works against this show. I think that an episode a week would allow for everything to simmer much more and create a more lasting experience with the show. I don't think most people have the self-control to not binge it (me included since we watched it all in a week).
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Fully agree with this.

 
Finally got around to this on Friday. About to reach the infamous S2E7 everyone seems to hate. I'll be my own judge. Loving this show and kicking myself for putting it off.

 
Buckna said:
Same here. Nearly every episode ends on a cliffhanger, would be perfect for the traditional weekly release format.
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It's funny. My 8yo son has been watching along with me. At first he didn't like it. Then today, he just spouts out "Ok I like this but why does every episode have to be a cliffhanger?"

 
Awe man. I was hoping they were doing the obvious fake out for Bob. They gave all the telltale signs he was gonna die that I was hoping he'd make it. Poor Bob.
 
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BTW, this sounds like something that would have been debated for 10+ pages. Why didn't Bob turn on ALL the sprinklers when he found out the demodogs were scared of water?

 
Insein said:
BTW, this sounds like something that would have been debated for 10+ pages. Why didn't Bob turn on ALL the sprinklers when he found out the demodogs were scared of water?
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stranger-things-theory-shows-bob-was-more-of-a-hero-than-you-thought_n_5a0dfa5ae4b04df7381abaef

We asked Astin about this water theory, and he proposed that Bob wouldn’t know much about it either way.

“One of the things that Bob doesn’t get to do is really experience the Upside Down. He doesn’t meet Eleven ... He doesn’t really know even in his death. He doesn’t know in the amount of time between learning about this other world and being chased down the hallway by these demodogs,” he said.

The actor claims he’s unsure whether water has a “supernatural effect” on the monsters, but Astin did bring up that his own dogs and cats react at the mere sight of a spray bottle, even though they’ve barely ever been sprayed with water.

“I don’t know if there’s anything story-wise, or within the sense of the world — that it melts them, or it’s like a vampire with sacred water on it or something ... I think for Bob in that moment, it’s like, ‘Oh, watch me freak the dogs out.’” he said.

Sure, Bob could’ve just been treating the monsters as dogs — dogs that don’t like getting sprayed with water — even though he wasn’t around when Dustin (Gaten Matarazzo) coined the phrase “demodogs.” But the evidence for water is there.

BuzzFeed asked creators Matt and Ross Duffer about the impact of water on the monsters. They said they “talked about water,” but didn’t get into the theory, adding that it was a “cool idea.”

 
NewlyRetired said:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stranger-things-theory-shows-bob-was-more-of-a-hero-than-you-thought_n_5a0dfa5ae4b04df7381abaef

We asked Astin about this water theory, and he proposed that Bob wouldn’t know much about it either way.

“One of the things that Bob doesn’t get to do is really experience the Upside Down. He doesn’t meet Eleven ... He doesn’t really know even in his death. He doesn’t know in the amount of time between learning about this other world and being chased down the hallway by these demodogs,” he said.

The actor claims he’s unsure whether water has a “supernatural effect” on the monsters, but Astin did bring up that his own dogs and cats react at the mere sight of a spray bottle, even though they’ve barely ever been sprayed with water.

“I don’t know if there’s anything story-wise, or within the sense of the world — that it melts them, or it’s like a vampire with sacred water on it or something ... I think for Bob in that moment, it’s like, ‘Oh, watch me freak the dogs out.’” he said.

Sure, Bob could’ve just been treating the monsters as dogs — dogs that don’t like getting sprayed with water — even though he wasn’t around when Dustin (Gaten Matarazzo) coined the phrase “demodogs.” But the evidence for water is there.

BuzzFeed asked creators Matt and Ross Duffer about the impact of water on the monsters. They said they “talked about water,” but didn’t get into the theory, adding that it was a “cool idea.”
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I'm just saying. I'd have taken my chances running through showering water to the door than trying to sneak back.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Great season. I was a little worried the first couple episodes, where the focus was on the undefined body-snatching rather than creature horror. I thought maybe they spent so much money on remaking all the locations into 80's spots that they had to use human actors as the monsters, and would focus way more on the interpersonal stuff than the sci-fi stuff. Whoops could not have been more wrong, it was a great balance with the best creature horror yet imo.

Great character development.

The Russians stuff was all a bit over the top and over done, but so were the tropes and source material it's an homage to, so. 

Only thing I could have done without was the "Hopper as stereotypical 80's sitcom dad" caricature. That one could have been left in the past, but it served it's purpose and led to some funny scenes. Made him very unlikable at times however. 

Agree that Robin is already a top character (and really like her wingman/buddy relationship with Steve). Also agree that she has "it". Even something about her voice just has a weight to it. She killed every scene.

Agreed with everyone about the credits scene. One fun (but unlikely) alternate theory: 

What if the captured prisoner is Brennan? Wanting to continue his work he defected, or something, and it didn't go as planned once he spilled the science to the Russians. They sure knew a lot about the ####show in Hawkins. 

But it's probably Hopper.

What's the implication with the pet Demogorgon they have? That they had the gate open just long enough to capture one? Or that they raised a slug to adulthood? Remember, there was a scene with Erica (when she found the tazer) where she points to a big shark-cage looking thing and asks "how big did you say the demogorgon was?"

Maybe the Russians prime interest was surprisingly not just the opening of a gate to mess with America, as that would be suicidal long term. Maybe they hoped to stick around and weaponize the demogorgon creatures themselves.

Not really sure how theirs is still alive actually with the gate closed. All the demodogs died last season instantly when the gate closed. So is that implying they have a stable, open gate of their own?

In fact, how are they even holding on to that fully-grown demogorgon? Can't it make it's own mini-gates into the Upside Down to escape? See: the creepy tree trunk scene from season one and the shed scene from season one when it actually abducted Will. Maybe it's not fully matured yet.
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Probably been answered but the demodogs died because they were connected to the mind flayer. Was the connection was severed, it caused their brains to hemorrhage and die. I believe the first Demogorgan was its own autonomous animal. 

To me the Demogorgans are just animals acting on instinct. They are from the upside down but they live like a lion or a bear would. Just more aggressive. The mind flayer was a higher level thinking creature. Probably one of the dominant species in the upside down. I don't think the mind flayer controls all the species in the upside down though.

So if you can capture an uncorrupted demogrogan, we have seen that they can form bonds. Like dart with Dustin. Which means they can also be trained.


 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
Forget about the ability to be able to look up Planck's Constant instantaneously -- just the time it took to get that info from Suzie with having to sing that song might have enabled Hopper to not have to face the Russian terminator and actually escape, and may have saved Billy's life. Though I'd argue Billy wasn't worth saving anyway.
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Totally agree. I was like Dustin, tell that ##### that we ain't got time to sing a 3 minute song when people are about to get mind flayer
 
Capella said:
Thinking about it more, I did enjoy it quite a bit and will watch it all the way out, I just wish there was a way to make it feel not so repetitive. Maybe getting out of stupid Hawkins will help that. 
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If it wasn't made to binge and you consumed it once a week over 3 years, it would feel more spaced out.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
The residents of Hawkins are the absolute most oblivious people in the world. 

Shootout and murders during the fair, giant monster trapesing through the woods, mass murder in an active hospital, and a giant loud battle in the mall and not a person in the whole town noticed save one kid on a ferris wheel that brushed it aside. 
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Like Murray said. People do not want that curtain pulled back. 

 
Stinkin Ref said:
have not read this entire thread or watched a trailer.....a friend recommended ST , but I am not a sci fi guy at all....no monsters/zombies/aliens/kooky magic.....basically can't get invested into anything I know can't actually happen in real life.....do I have any chance of enjoying  this show...? tia
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My wife hates all those things but decided to start watching it because it's popular. She loves it. I'm surprised I put it off this long because it's everything I love.

 
I assume the story about the fire having 30 dead was meant to cover what happened to the people who were turned to goo but how do their families just buy that? Most saw them walk away from a BBQ or the fair and then suddenly their dead at the mall that was closed?
That and the Russian incompetence threw me off a bit but then I remembered that this isn't Mad Men or the Americans. It's a sci Fi/horror/action movie rolled up into 8 episodes. So brain needs to be turned off for a lot of things. Which is fine. I love schlock. Especially well done schlock like this.



 
s1 - 9/10

s2 - 5.5/10

s3 - 4/10

trend is obvious.

MBB and Harbour are carrying this show, but dunno how much further 11 can be milked  :shrug:

s1 music featured Joy Division,

s3? Madonna. 

it's slipping ... and one of the old "Jump the Shark" tells was 'moving characters to different location', aaaaand we now head to Russia.  

ps - if Caleb's insufferable little sister is making the trek, it's over.  good lord is it over. 

 
otb_lifer said:
s1 - 9/10

s2 - 5.5/10

s3 - 4/10

trend is obvious.

MBB and Harbour are carrying this show, but dunno how much further 11 can be milked  :shrug:

s1 music featured Joy Division,

s3? Madonna. 

it's slipping ... and one of the old "Jump the Shark" tells was 'moving characters to different location', aaaaand we now head to Russia.  

ps - if Caleb's insufferable little sister is making the trek, it's over.  good lord is it over. 
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Cool. From my impression though you’re  the minority on that opinion. (not your last point though, she bugs me a bit too. 👍🏻)

 
Hugh Jass said:
Cool. From my impression though you’re  the minority on that opinion. (not your last point though, she bugs me a bit too. 👍🏻)
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s1 was phenomenal viewing ... it had a much darker and malevolent vibe to it ... was claustrophobic and foreboding, all while still giving whimsical nostalgic winks to the era - it was genius.  

whereas s1 played more to a horror angle, s2&3 played to straight up fantasy gobbledy#### ... it definitely lost steam, and the character schtick was foisted over coherence of catastrophe.

if that's a minority view, so be it .... but does anyone here really think they came even remotely close to s1 brilliance in s2&3?

 
Oh it’s all good and people like things for all sorts of different reasons.

In my opinion and enjoyment, the seasons go S3, S1, S2. And even though I have season two “last” I liked it a whole lot and it contains probably my most enjoyable part of the series so far in the last episode. 

 
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otb_lifer said:
s1 - 9/10

s2 - 5.5/10

s3 - 4/10

trend is obvious.

MBB and Harbour are carrying this show, but dunno how much further 11 can be milked  :shrug:

s1 music featured Joy Division,

s3? Madonna. 

it's slipping ... and one of the old "Jump the Shark" tells was 'moving characters to different location', aaaaand we now head to Russia.  

ps - if Caleb's insufferable little sister is making the trek, it's over.  good lord is it over. 
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No way.  Season three was really popular.  My kids loved it. I loved second half of season two.  The last episode of season two was our favorite in the series.  My daughter is in 5th grade and the kids were obsessed with season three!

I personally love the side characters.  The two cops, Reporter/Bunker guy, Billy, and Mike and Dustin's moms.  So money.  The music crushes too.  

And you can't have America without Erica!

 
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otb_lifer said:
s1 was phenomenal viewing ... it had a much darker and malevolent vibe to it ... was claustrophobic and foreboding, all while still giving whimsical nostalgic winks to the era - it was genius.  

whereas s1 played more to a horror angle, s2&3 played to straight up fantasy gobbledy#### ... it definitely lost steam, and the character schtick was foisted over coherence of catastrophe.

if that's a minority view, so be it .... but does anyone here really think they came even remotely close to s1 brilliance in s2&3?
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It doesn't have to come close to still be enjoyable from a series perspective.  We all get it. They are gonna shove the 80s down our throat. For me at least, it still works. Some scenes better than others but overall still fun.

 
in my mind and hey who really wants to be in there but anyhow in there if you cant just sit back and have a good time watching this show then brohans its time to figure out where the hard left turn in your life that led off of the path of awesome happened and retrace your steps back to that point and get back on the path of the brohan take that to the bank bromigos 

 
SWC said:
in my mind and hey who really wants to be in there but anyhow in there if you cant just sit back and have a good time watching this show then brohans its time to figure out where the hard left turn in your life that led off of the path of awesome happened and retrace your steps back to that point and get back on the path of the brohan take that to the bank bromigos 
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Brohan, if I am feeling nostalgic for the 80s, I will just watch some 80s ####, not a subpar show that has to remind me how cool the 80s were.  Take that to the bank.  

 
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