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New charges filed against Brandon Marshall (1 Viewer)

Borttom line = Marshall is not likely to be suspended based on these new charges being filed, and we thank Cecil for bringing us that INFORMATION.

As for everything else being discussed here :lmao:
With all due respect Marc, i don't think there is any way anyone knows at this point in time how this will effect a suspension. This just got reported, all it is now is speculation.
I think he's referring to this year. If he's convicted then fine, maybe something will happen. But the suspension he got and served already was with the knowledge of this incident.
what does that mean though....are you saying that it doesn't matter what the outcome is because he has already served a suspension for this incident......?...I think that is the problem, people think that he has already served a suspension for this incident. I would like to see proof of where that is true. The fact that charges were filed changed this from Brandon letting somebody know about something to a new issue that could warrant a suspension based on the outcome.
This guy gets it.
No, the two of you should grab some :confused: and watch this kid tear the league up for the next 15 games. Your hate consumes you. Sad.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
Brandon Marshall is not a thug. Immature - yes, but hopefully he's growing up.

Here's what I've heard and confirmed with different Broncos sources:

New charges, but not a new incident. They hadn't decided whether to charge him or not until now. The NFL also knew about this when they suspended him.
Ummmmmmmmm dude, he has been arrested how many times? "allegedly" beats up on girls. Lammey maybe all that is cool where your from but not where I am from.
:goodposting:
Please. Point to where I say he's immature for smacking around his girl and you may have a point. I was merely stating that IN GENERAL he's immature.

As I said earlier: beating up your girlfriend is VERY WRONG

Read the whole thread before you go tossing around the "where I'm from" schtick.

 
Anyone else catch this part?:

According to an article published in the Rocky Mountain News on July 28, 2008, Douglas County deputies fielded "about 11" calls to Marshall's home since January 2006. The article stated that one one call resulted in Marshall being arrested (the March 26, 2007 domestic dispute), and some did not involve him at all.[34]

Sounds like his chick is DRAMAFIED! Could be close friends or family members too I guess. I think Marshall would be wise to spend as much time as possible with members of the Broncos' organization.

 
BTW, the latest I've heard is that the league MAY review this IF Brandon is found to be guilty. But let's get serious, any sort of decision would come after the season. Again, nothing to see here people.NOW, if Brandon gets in trouble from here on out then everything else is out the window. IF he keeps his nose clean I really believe this is a non-issue for this season.
saw on ESPN that the reason the 2 game suspension was dropped to 1, was that he came clean on ALL pending charges, this one included.
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
No you couldn't, because not one person mentioned his race having anything to do with why they are calling him a thug. They are calling him a thug for assaulting police officers/woman/and having officers called to his house weekly.Not one person even hinted at his race.
 
Borttom line = Marshall is not likely to be suspended based on these new charges being filed, and we thank Cecil for bringing us that INFORMATION.

As for everything else being discussed here :no:
With all due respect Marc, i don't think there is any way anyone knows at this point in time how this will effect a suspension. This just got reported, all it is now is speculation.
I think he's referring to this year. If he's convicted then fine, maybe something will happen. But the suspension he got and served already was with the knowledge of this incident.
what does that mean though....are you saying that it doesn't matter what the outcome is because he has already served a suspension for this incident......?...I think that is the problem, people think that he has already served a suspension for this incident. I would like to see proof of where that is true. The fact that charges were filed changed this from Brandon letting somebody know about something to a new issue that could warrant a suspension based on the outcome.
This guy gets it.
No, the two of you should grab some :hey: and watch this kid tear the league up for the next 15 games. Your hate consumes you. Sad.
personally I couldn't care less...I was simply pointing out that those who think he has already been suspended for this issue, therefore it is not an issue or old news, may be wrong......not sure where hate was involved (own him in both subsriber contest and one other league)...not that that matters but apparently that is what you use to judge people's comments around here....
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
No you couldn't, because not one person mentioned his race having anything to do with why they are calling him a thug. They are calling him a thug for assaulting police officers/woman/and having officers called to his house weekly.Not one person even hinted at his race.
You've just made my point. I haven't HINTED that he's immature because he allegedly smacks around girls. To state otherwise shows an utter lack of reading comprehension.
 
BTW, the latest I've heard is that the league MAY review this IF Brandon is found to be guilty. But let's get serious, any sort of decision would come after the season. Again, nothing to see here people.NOW, if Brandon gets in trouble from here on out then everything else is out the window. IF he keeps his nose clean I really believe this is a non-issue for this season.
saw on ESPN that the reason the 2 game suspension was dropped to 1, was that he came clean on ALL pending charges, this one included.
I haven't heard that, but I do know that many reporters around Denver feel that if found guilty the NFL will re-examine this.
 
Cecil Lammey said:
Brandon Marshall is not a thug. Immature - yes, but hopefully he's growing up.

Here's what I've heard and confirmed with different Broncos sources:

New charges, but not a new incident. They hadn't decided whether to charge him or not until now. The NFL also knew about this when they suspended him.
Ummmmmmmmm dude, he has been arrested how many times? "allegedly" beats up on girls. Lammey maybe all that is cool where your from but not where I am from.
:goodposting:
Please. Point to where I say he's immature for smacking around his girl and you may have a point. I was merely stating that IN GENERAL he's immature.

As I said earlier: beating up your girlfriend is VERY WRONG

Read the whole thread before you go tossing around the "where I'm from" schtick.
1. Its spelled shtick.

2. IN GENERAL he is a thug for just getting arrested so many times.

3. He is a thug IF he smacked around his girlfriend.

4. I guess Rae Carruth was just misunderstood huh.? If he keeps up his ignorant behavior that is a possible where he could be heading.

 
BTW, the latest I've heard is that the league MAY review this IF Brandon is found to be guilty. But let's get serious, any sort of decision would come after the season. Again, nothing to see here people.NOW, if Brandon gets in trouble from here on out then everything else is out the window. IF he keeps his nose clean I really believe this is a non-issue for this season.
saw on ESPN that the reason the 2 game suspension was dropped to 1, was that he came clean on ALL pending charges, this one included.
No it wasn't. No way. They couldn't have done that before he was charged. Obviously they're wrong. He's gonna get suspended for 8 games I'm sure of it. And then when he messes up again he'll get the Vick sentence.
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
No you couldn't, because not one person mentioned his race having anything to do with why they are calling him a thug. They are calling him a thug for assaulting police officers/woman/and having officers called to his house weekly.Not one person even hinted at his race.
You've just made my point. I haven't HINTED that he's immature because he allegedly smacks around girls. To state otherwise shows an utter lack of reading comprehension.
Not really, you said his problems stemmed from being immature.His problems have consisted of having cops called to his house for beating his girlfriend, getting arrested for assaulting an officer, and driving around drunk (this one i can go with the immature excuse) among other things.His problems haven't had anything to do with being immature, how can you say that is his major issue. Being immature has ZERO to do with aggression towards woman and police. The people who do those kind of things have deep rooted problems that have nothing to do with immaturity, they have to do with a messed up mental makeup.
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
No you couldn't, because not one person mentioned his race having anything to do with why they are calling him a thug. They are calling him a thug for assaulting police officers/woman/and having officers called to his house weekly.Not one person even hinted at his race.
You've just made my point. I haven't HINTED that he's immature because he allegedly smacks around girls.

To state otherwise shows an utter lack of reading comprehension.
Not really, you said his problems stemmed from being immature.His problems have consisted of having cops called to his house for beating his girlfriend, getting arrested for assaulting an officer, and driving around drunk (this one i can go with the immature excuse) among other things.

His problems haven't had anything to do with being immature, how can you say that is his major issue. Being immature has ZERO to do with aggression towards woman and police. The people who do those kind of things have deep rooted problems that have nothing to do with immaturity, they have to do with a messed up mental makeup.
:lmao: to the bolded parts.Semantics

deliberate distortion or twisting of meaning

:goodposting:

 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
No you couldn't, because not one person mentioned his race having anything to do with why they are calling him a thug. They are calling him a thug for assaulting police officers/woman/and having officers called to his house weekly.Not one person even hinted at his race.
You've just made my point. I haven't HINTED that he's immature because he allegedly smacks around girls.

To state otherwise shows an utter lack of reading comprehension.
Not really, you said his problems stemmed from being immature.His problems have consisted of having cops called to his house for beating his girlfriend, getting arrested for assaulting an officer, and driving around drunk (this one i can go with the immature excuse) among other things.

His problems haven't had anything to do with being immature, how can you say that is his major issue. Being immature has ZERO to do with aggression towards woman and police. The people who do those kind of things have deep rooted problems that have nothing to do with immaturity, they have to do with a messed up mental makeup.
:lmao: to the bolded parts.Semantics

deliberate distortion or twisting of meaning

:goodposting:
let me ask you this, what do you think the reason is for his past problems? Just a misunderstood guy who everyone is out to get?you said he was immature and not a thug, looking at his past actions i don't know how anyone could say that.

thugs (white/black/mexican/etc just to clarify) beat up woman, immature people don't.

BM is far more thug then immature.

You can't judge him on the few conversations you might have had with him, neither you nor i know the true Brandon Marshall, and no matter what he says his rap sheet speaks for him. And that rap sheet is one of a "thug", "bad person", "idiot", whatever you want to label it, but it sure isn't one that can be blown off due to immaturity.

You chose a bad way of presenting your thoughts on him. I'm sure you didn't mean what you typed, so again to make it clear what do you think the reasons are for a rap sheet that would make Suge Knight jealous?

 
Cecil Lammey said:
Brandon Marshall is not a thug. Immature - yes, but hopefully he's growing up.

Here's what I've heard and confirmed with different Broncos sources:

New charges, but not a new incident. They hadn't decided whether to charge him or not until now. The NFL also knew about this when they suspended him.
Ummmmmmmmm dude, he has been arrested how many times? "allegedly" beats up on girls. Lammey maybe all that is cool where your from but not where I am from.
:goodposting:
Please. Point to where I say he's immature for smacking around his girl and you may have a point. I was merely stating that IN GENERAL he's immature.

As I said earlier: beating up your girlfriend is VERY WRONG

Read the whole thread before you go tossing around the "where I'm from" schtick.
1. Its spelled shtick.

2. IN GENERAL he is a thug for just getting arrested so many times.

3. He is a thug IF he smacked around his girlfriend.

4. I guess Rae Carruth was just misunderstood huh.? If he keeps up his ignorant behavior that is a possible where he could be heading.
:lmao: Love the spelling police who can't spell or form a sentence. It's spelled "schtick" just like Lammey spelled it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtick

And "its" is spelled "it's".

Sad.

 
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Why do some of you care so much about this? You act as if you've known Marshall personally and speak from first hand knowledge. I just don't get the outrage. Yes it sounds like he's possibly done some bad things, his GF may have done some bad things but what does it matter. You don't like him..noted. If he breaks league rules he'll be suspeneded.

If you really care so much volunteer at a shelter or something.

 
Why do some of you care so much about this? You act as if you've known Marshall personally and speak from first hand knowledge. I just don't get the outrage. Yes it sounds like he's possibly done some bad things, his GF may have done some bad things but what does it matter. You don't like him..noted. If he breaks league rules he'll be suspeneded. If you really care so much volunteer at a shelter or something.
The Mike Vick threads were some of the most popular on the board, why were those threads popular.people don't like it when athletes become criminals.
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
 
Why do some of you care so much about this? You act as if you've known Marshall personally and speak from first hand knowledge. I just don't get the outrage. Yes it sounds like he's possibly done some bad things, his GF may have done some bad things but what does it matter. You don't like him..noted. If he breaks league rules he'll be suspeneded.

If you really care so much volunteer at a shelter or something.
The Mike Vick threads were some of the most popular on the board, why were those threads popular.people don't like it when athletes become criminals.
Yeah but they couldn't care less about the criminals that terrorize the cities they live in each and everyday. Oh, except when they become the victim.
 
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference. However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
 
As a Brandon Marshall owner in a big money league I hope he is fine and plays all year. That said, the guy is trouble and has yet to prove he has turned the corner, we'll see what happens because he really does have alot to be thankful for, most of it due to his god given talent and his own hard work.

As far as this thread goes, it stinks, it really does. On one hand you have the apologists who make dumb statements like beating women is fine, he's an angel and was just going through normal "kid stuff" when he was young, this is untrue. On the other hand you have the haters who claim he is satin himself. The sad part about it is that alot of this comes from the whole "I own him" and "I don't own him" mentality. How about we lay off the guy and lay off the topic until something actually happens. Based on the posts in this thread I wouldn't trust alot of the people in this thread about asking them if I should choose Cheerios or Frosted Flakes for my breakfast, I'm really disappointed with the lack of maturity, common sense in this thread.

Double thumbs down on this thread. :goodposting: :lmao:

 
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :goodposting:

 
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :thumbdown:
:goodposting:All this has turned into is people taking cheap shot jabs at each other. Even getting FBG staff involved as well.This thread serves no purpose anymore except for wild speculation and for people to criticize others. You can tell the Marshall owners from the non-Marshall owners by their responses. Bottom line is NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, SO STOP SPECULATING. Chances are nothing happens. Do everyone a favor and let it play out; stop speculating
 
Here's a complete (as complete as one can build) on his legal troubles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Marshall

Each of the [xx] notes is hyperlinked in the original wikipedia page with the source of the article.

Legal trouble

According to Orlando-Orange County public records (case 48-2004-MM-012392-O), on Halloween 2004, while a student at UCF, Marshall was arrested in Orlando on charges of assault on a law enforcement officer, refusal to obey, disorderly conduct and resisting an officer.[27]

On January 1, 2007, Marshall was present at "The Shelter," a downtown Denver nightclub, along with teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams. As the players were leaving the club, Williams was fatally shot in the neck by an unknown assailant. Walker has stated in interviews that the shooter was likely a nightclub patron whose motive was retaliation after being involved in an altercation with Marshall's cousin earlier that night.[28]

On March 26, 2007, Marshall was arrested in the Highlands Ranch suburb of Denver on suspicion of domestic violence after his girlfriend reported that following a domestic dispute, Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house.[29] Charges from the incident were later dismissed on May 25, 2007, after Marshall completed anger management counseling.[30]

In the early morning of October 22, 2007, Marshall was arrested in the Denver Metro area at the intersection of 14th and Blake St. for driving under the influence of alcohol.[31] A trial was scheduled for September 16, but Marshall instead agreed to a plea bargain four days earlier; he pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability impaired.[32] He was sentenced to one-year probation and 24 hours of community service.

On June 12, 2008, Marshall was ticketed for an illegal lane change, then found to be without his license and proof of insurance.[33] The case was eventually dropped as part of a plea bargain for the October 22, 2007 driving incident involving alcohol.[32]

According to an article published in the Rocky Mountain News on July 28, 2008, Douglas County deputies fielded "about 11" calls to Marshall's home since January 2006. The article stated that one one call resulted in Marshall being arrested (the March 26, 2007 domestic dispute), and some did not involve him at all.[34]

A September 17, 2008 article on CompleteColorado.com indicated that the solicitor's office in Fulton County, Georgia filed misdemeanor battery charges on September 10 for an alleged incident on March 4, 2008, in Atlanta, Georgia. The case was assigned to Judge John Mather in Georgia state court. An email from Judge Mather's office to CompleteColorado.com indicated that no court date had been set, but that the date would likely be in November or December.[35]

 
As a Brandon Marshall owner in a big money league I hope he is fine and plays all year. That said, the guy is trouble and has yet to prove he has turned the corner, we'll see what happens because he really does have alot to be thankful for, most of it due to his god given talent and his own hard work.

As far as this thread goes, it stinks, it really does. On one hand you have the apologists who make dumb statements like beating women is fine, he's an angel and was just going through normal "kid stuff" when he was young, this is untrue. On the other hand you have the haters who claim he is satin himself. The sad part about it is that alot of this comes from the whole "I own him" and "I don't own him" mentality. How about we lay off the guy and lay off the topic until something actually happens. Based on the posts in this thread I wouldn't trust alot of the people in this thread about asking them if I should choose Cheerios or Frosted Flakes for my breakfast, I'm really disappointed with the lack of maturity, common sense in this thread.

Double thumbs down on this thread. :goodposting: :thumbdown:
You forgot to add that on the third you hand you have the people who come in here simply to point out how much everyone else in this thread sucks.
 
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :thumbdown:
:goodposting: All this has turned into is people taking cheap shot jabs at each other. Even getting FBG staff involved as well.

This thread serves no purpose anymore except for wild speculation and for people to criticize others. You can tell the Marshall owners from the non-Marshall owners by their responses. Bottom line is NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, SO STOP SPECULATING. Chances are nothing happens.

Do everyone a favor and let it play out; stop speculating
we have a winner!
 
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :thumbdown:
:goodposting: All this has turned into is people taking cheap shot jabs at each other. Even getting FBG staff involved as well.

This thread serves no purpose anymore except for wild speculation and for people to criticize others. You can tell the Marshall owners from the non-Marshall owners by their responses. Bottom line is NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, SO STOP SPECULATING. Chances are nothing happens.

Do everyone a favor and let it play out; stop speculating
:lmao: You go on a rant about people speculating and then you do some of your own speculation. "chances are nothing happens", you do realize that is speculation as well don't you?

I mean if your going to call out others for speculating at least don't do the same thing in your rant post.

 
thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference. However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
 
September 18, 2008, 21:30Broncos :: WRBroncos WR Marshall Not Expected To Be Further DisciplinedAdam Schefter, NFL.com - [Full Article]Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall is not expected to be further disciplined by the NFL despite the fact that misdemeanor battery charges were filed against him on September 10th. Marshall's attorney Harvey Steinberg commented that the league had access to the police reports related to the incident when it decided to suspend the Denver wide receiver earlier this year. Depending on what happens with the case, additional disciplinary action could be handed out to Marshall by the NFL.
 
Wow. Two totally useless threads about Brandon Marshall. 235 posts in one day about nothing.

This is what sharks talk about?

 
moderated said:
Warriors Forever said:
el-gato-grande said:
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :thumbup:
:thumbup: All this has turned into is people taking cheap shot jabs at each other. Even getting FBG staff involved as well.

This thread serves no purpose anymore except for wild speculation and for people to criticize others. You can tell the Marshall owners from the non-Marshall owners by their responses. Bottom line is NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, SO STOP SPECULATING. Chances are nothing happens.

Do everyone a favor and let it play out; stop speculating
:lmao: You go on a rant about people speculating and then you do some of your own speculation. "chances are nothing happens", you do realize that is speculation as well don't you?

I mean if your going to call out others for speculating at least don't do the same thing in your rant post.
No, chances are nothing would have happened. How many times has this happened so far this season that EVERYONE has speculated and "predicted" suspension and then nothing happens. Lynch comes to mind, not to mention Marshall's suspension was decreased to ONE game prior to the season. Seems to me Mr. Commish is getting a little soft on the suspensions. He's not as quick as some people on this board to hand out anything.Also, before I posted it was WELL documented that the NFL handed down the already served suspension with knowledge of this incident, therefore no new information was being presented to the NFL front office. I highly doubt they would turn around and say, "oh well charges have been filed so NOW we'll lay down a punishment." They alreayd knew about it, which was why I was saying nothing will probably happen. Nothing ever does.

As you can see by the post 2 above this one, nothing did happen.

And the guy above me is right- took 200+ posts for the end result of "nothing will happen." Nothing was accomplished in this thread but some chest bumping and people flexing their finger muscles by typing response after response. Kind of pathetic... but that is the essence of the Shark Pool. Everyone speculates. No one has any real meaningful conversations anymore. It's all "What will _____ value be from here on out?" "What will happen after this guy ran into legal trouble??" "what will my wife (mom for the kiddies) make me for dinner tomorrow night?" It's kind of ridiculous. What ever happened to meaningful conversation in this forum, none of this speculation crap- all that ever is accomplished there is that if someone doesn't agree with you, you just look up meaningless past stats to try and make your point, start bumping chests and trying to emerge as "alpha online ff male." Anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot and you are determined to prove him wrong... when in the end it's one speculation versus another. Never thought people would battle it out so hard core to be the biggest loser (not the TV show). Here's a tip- just wait a day or two or for the next game and see how it plays out........ :lmao:

 
I see alot of worried Marshall owners out there. He's the Wamu of fantasy football. On Fridays you can catch alot of fish with day old bait.

 
moderated said:
Warriors Forever said:
el-gato-grande said:
This thread doesn't deserve space in the POOL. Ok, maybe a CESSPOOL. Absolutely no useful information in here whatsoever and that is five minutes of my life I will never get back... :o
:D All this has turned into is people taking cheap shot jabs at each other. Even getting FBG staff involved as well.

This thread serves no purpose anymore except for wild speculation and for people to criticize others. You can tell the Marshall owners from the non-Marshall owners by their responses. Bottom line is NO ONE KNOWS HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT, SO STOP SPECULATING. Chances are nothing happens.

Do everyone a favor and let it play out; stop speculating
:lmao: You go on a rant about people speculating and then you do some of your own speculation. "chances are nothing happens", you do realize that is speculation as well don't you?

I mean if your going to call out others for speculating at least don't do the same thing in your rant post.
No, chances are nothing would have happened. How many times has this happened so far this season that EVERYONE has speculated and "predicted" suspension and then nothing happens. Lynch comes to mind, not to mention Marshall's suspension was decreased to ONE game prior to the season. Seems to me Mr. Commish is getting a little soft on the suspensions. He's not as quick as some people on this board to hand out anything.Also, before I posted it was WELL documented that the NFL handed down the already served suspension with knowledge of this incident, therefore no new information was being presented to the NFL front office. I highly doubt they would turn around and say, "oh well charges have been filed so NOW we'll lay down a punishment." They alreayd knew about it, which was why I was saying nothing will probably happen. Nothing ever does.

As you can see by the post 2 above this one, nothing did happen.

And the guy above me is right- took 200+ posts for the end result of "nothing will happen." Nothing was accomplished in this thread but some chest bumping and people flexing their finger muscles by typing response after response. Kind of pathetic... but that is the essence of the Shark Pool. Everyone speculates. No one has any real meaningful conversations anymore. It's all "What will _____ value be from here on out?" "What will happen after this guy ran into legal trouble??" "what will my wife (mom for the kiddies) make me for dinner tomorrow night?" It's kind of ridiculous. What ever happened to meaningful conversation in this forum, none of this speculation crap- all that ever is accomplished there is that if someone doesn't agree with you, you just look up meaningless past stats to try and make your point, start bumping chests and trying to emerge as "alpha online ff male." Anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot and you are determined to prove him wrong... when in the end it's one speculation versus another. Never thought people would battle it out so hard core to be the biggest loser (not the TV show). Here's a tip- just wait a day or two or for the next game and see how it plays out........ :confused:
I will maybe agree that the NFL knew something happened.....I don't know that it is WELL documented.....what does that mean other then Marshall may have let them know something happened.....but at that time, no charges had been filed, so it was as if nothing even happened, and the ruling/suspension made by the NFL HAD to have nothing to do with this incident...they may have known about it, but it could not have been factored into the suspension that has already been handed down....so odds are something WILL come of it if he gets convicted of something.....as soon as those charges were filed, it went from something Marshall may have told them about to something that could get him suspended again....just because he let them know about it before charges were filed does not mean he will get a free pass from the NFL if he is convicted of something.....the NFL most certainly will treat this as a new incident, because it would have been unfair for them to treat it like an incident when it was nothing prior to charges being filed.....I will agree with your second part about too much ill will being tossed around in here...

 
thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference. However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
Nope - just not worth responding to. The entire line of discussion is not worth my time in the Shark Pool. I made a one-line quip. thatguy wanted to engage in a long discussion. If you think it is REALLY important which inference is plausible and which is not, then you can go ahead an call a "winner." I'd rather talk about football and leave the rest to the FFA.By the way, the last two pages here suck as bad as the first 4.
 
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thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference. However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
Nope - just not worth responding to. The entire line of discussion is not worth my time in the Shark Pool. I made a one-line quip. thatguy wanted to engage in a long discussion. If you think it is REALLY important which inference is plausible and which is not, then you can go ahead an call a "winner." I'd rather talk about football and leave the rest to the FFA.By the way, the last two pages here suck as bad as the first 4.
This thread needs to be locked....its old news....the NFL has already suspended Marshall for this incident.....its just kept alive by a bunch of bitter guys who weren't fortunate enough (or astute enough) to draft him this year....IMHO
 
thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.

Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference.

However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.

Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
Nope - just not worth responding to. The entire line of discussion is not worth my time in the Shark Pool. I made a one-line quip. thatguy wanted to engage in a long discussion. If you think it is REALLY important which inference is plausible and which is not, then you can go ahead an call a "winner." I'd rather talk about football and leave the rest to the FFA.By the way, the last two pages here suck as bad as the first 4.
This thread needs to be locked....its old news....the NFL has already suspended Marshall for this incident.....its just kept alive by a bunch of bitter guys who weren't fortunate enough (or astute enough) to draft him this year....IMHO
You are badly misinformed if you think there won't be additional punishment handed out if found guilty in a court of law.ETA: If found guilty that punishment probably won't happen until 2009, because most likely he won't go to court until Nov or Dec.

 
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thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.

Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference.

However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.

Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
Nope - just not worth responding to. The entire line of discussion is not worth my time in the Shark Pool. I made a one-line quip. thatguy wanted to engage in a long discussion. If you think it is REALLY important which inference is plausible and which is not, then you can go ahead an call a "winner." I'd rather talk about football and leave the rest to the FFA.By the way, the last two pages here suck as bad as the first 4.
This thread needs to be locked....its old news....the NFL has already suspended Marshall for this incident.....its just kept alive by a bunch of bitter guys who weren't fortunate enough (or astute enough) to draft him this year....IMHO
You are badly misinformed if you think there won't be additional punishment handed out if found guilty in a court of law.ETA: If found guilty that punishment probably won't happen until 2009, because most likely he won't go to court until Nov or Dec.
Let me guess....you don't own Marshall on your team......
 
thatguy said:
Marc Levin said:
JohnnyU said:
Cecil Lammey said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Otis said:
This thread is mostly pretty stupid.
Discussing a player's off the field transgressions and how they relate to his 2008 playing status or his 2009 playing status is not stupid.
reading into people's statements is stupid.I could be calling everyone in here a racist for calling BMarsh a thug, but I'm not - because that would be stupid.
Are you insinuating that only African Americans are thugs?
About as much as he insinuated that beating up women is immaturity.
It really was a weak comparison on Cecil's part. There is virtually no parallelism between the two inferences in question: Inferring from Cecil's statement that he considers beating up women a product merely of immaturity != inferring that anyone who calls Marshall a thug is racist.

Given that Cecil chose that word and only that word to describe Marshall, the first is a valid inference, albeit perhaps an incorrect inference.

However, to even consider the second inference plausible, one must first have some preconceived notion of what a thug is and is not as pertains to race. Since race had not been brought up prior to Cecil's post, we can only assume that HE is the one with that preconceived notion.

Now, I'm not saying he's racist, nor am I saying he considers beating women a product of simply immaturity. I am saying he chose a very poor example to use in defense of his point.
wow....looks like it was a good thing the dinner bell rang after this post.....:tapout:
Nope - just not worth responding to. The entire line of discussion is not worth my time in the Shark Pool. I made a one-line quip. thatguy wanted to engage in a long discussion. If you think it is REALLY important which inference is plausible and which is not, then you can go ahead an call a "winner." I'd rather talk about football and leave the rest to the FFA.By the way, the last two pages here suck as bad as the first 4.
This thread needs to be locked....its old news....the NFL has already suspended Marshall for this incident.....its just kept alive by a bunch of bitter guys who weren't fortunate enough (or astute enough) to draft him this year....IMHO
You are badly misinformed if you think there won't be additional punishment handed out if found guilty in a court of law.ETA: If found guilty that punishment probably won't happen until 2009, because most likely he won't go to court until Nov or Dec.
What makes you so certain ? The lawyer said that the league had access to the police report when determining his punishment. He served his time, how could they re-open it without looking like complete morons ?
 
What makes you so certain ? The lawyer said that the league had access to the police report when determining his punishment. He served his time, how could they re-open it without looking like complete morons ?
I'm not 100% certain, but from everything I'm reading on the subject, he is open for additional punishment if found guilty. I don't think his previous one game punishment was solely based upon him being guilty of "this" incident before even being tried for it.
 
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What makes you so certain ? The lawyer said that the league had access to the police report when determining his punishment. He served his time, how could they re-open it without looking like complete morons ?
I'm not 100% certain, but from everything I'm reading on the subject, he is open for additional punishment if found guilty. I don't think his previous one game punishment was solely based upon him being guilty of "this" incident before even being tried for it.
If this incident played into the suspension he got (and they did have the police report at the time), then how can they re-open it ? If new info comes to light then I see where a new suspension is coming from. But if nothing new is brought to the table and no additional charges are filed, then I just don't see how they can suspend him further.Stranger things has happened though I guess.
 
They knew of the incident, the prosecution just hadn't officially charged him for the crime at the moment. If he is found guilty, then maybe he'll face more suspension time, but the trial will be delayed long enough for him to finish this season, IMO. Goodell knew all along this could happen, but Marshall probably explained his side of the story and that was that. Until a court date is set in stone then there is nothing to see here.

That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

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