New Orleans Saints @ Seattle Seahawks Playoff Thread (1 Viewer)

[ThePittbully]

Hawks would win at NO 70% of the time. Hawks have the best HFA hands down.

You're living in a dream world. I would love for the Saints to host the Hawks next year. And I don't care what anybody says, when comparing homefield advantage wins are all that matter

 

[Tha Guru]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

 

[CapnJB]

Gadubut is on a fishing trip.

Facts are facts. Both New Orleans and New England are tougher places for road opponents to win.

Sorry that doesn't mesh with y'all self-appointed crown.

Painted faces and how you play on the road doesn't factor into the equation.

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

Last two years by wins

1) Seattle 15-1

2) New England 14-2

3) Denver 14-2

4) San Fran 12-3-1

5) New Orleans 12-4

 

[ImTheScientist]

Hawks would win at NO 70% of the time. Hawks have the best HFA hands down.

You're living in a dream world. I would love for the Saints to host the Hawks next year. And I don't care what anybody says, when comparing homefield advantage wins are all that matter

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

You don't understand the word "advantage". Please read the article above to educate yourself.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it. It clearly lays out how playing at home is an advantage for certain teams. Things like this are exactly why I went from posting informative information years ago to just doing what I do now. Its a complete waste to be logical because nobody reads it.

 

[Tha Guru]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

 

[Ballstein]

Off topic:

Anybody ever tried Joe Horn's Bayou 87 cajun smoked sausage? Just bought a pound of it to use in a jambalaya later. Hopefully it doesn't suck.

Willie Roaf's wife loves that sauce

 

[Tha Guru]

Off topic:

Anybody ever tried Joe Horn's Bayou 87 cajun smoked sausage? Just bought a pound of it to use in a jambalaya later. Hopefully it doesn't suck.

Willie Roaf's wife loves that sauce

 

[ImTheScientist]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

Like I said, I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it. It clearly lays out how playing at home is an advantage for certain teams. Things like this are exactly why I went from posting informative information years ago to just doing what I do now. Its a complete waste to be logical because nobody reads it.

 

[Gadabout]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

Yeah but there's this, like, imaginary column right next to one labeled "W" where things like ratios and all count.

Let them be imaginary champs of something.

 

[Tha Guru]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantagesThere you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

Like I said, I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it. It clearly lays out how playing at home is an advantage for certain teams. Things like this are exactly why I went from posting informative information years ago to just doing what I do now. Its a complete waste to be logical because nobody reads it.

I guess I should look for you at the Improv soon

 

[BassNBrew]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

Like I said, I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it. It clearly lays out how playing at home is an advantage for certain teams. Things like this are exactly why I went from posting informative information years ago to just doing what I do now. Its a complete waste to be logical because nobody reads it.

I'll disagree that it proves Seattle is the toughest place to play (even though it could support that argument) or they have the biggest hfa. Seattle could just suck on the road more than other teams in the running. The numbers could easily be called visiting field disadvantage. Seattle is number one in VFD.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I am not sure I totally agree with my Saints brethren on this latest argument about HFA. at least when it comes to two things.

1. Seattle is a very very long way to travel for most teams in the NFC and is a few time zones away.

2. The clink is louder because it was designed to be louder. The Superdome on the other hand is a multi use facility that was also built to house concerts. The dome has acoustic tile in it that absorbs rather than reflects sound. For this reason alone I do not think they will ever break a sound record.

With that being said, the crowd has a profound affect on the home team's ability as well as the artificial turf that they are playing on.

 

[Zigg]

This thread is awful.

 

[biju]

New Orleans have have the best HFA for all of sports. It isn't going to affect this game one bit.

Saints fans should continue this schtick. You're roping some people in and all it will do is make the stadium louder with anger. Fuel to the fire suckers.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Who ####### cares who has the best homefield advantage over the past two to 30 years? It's one game in time happening this weekend, move on.

 

[Breesisdaman]

After the Monday night beating the Seahawks put on the Saints, the locker room speech from Sean Payton went like this: "Remember how you feel right now because we are going to have to come back here in the playoffs" I also think thats why he is painting all the Seahawks logos etc. on the practice field. He is channeling that emotion and using it.

Payton knows what he is doing, Not saying it will result in a victory but I am saying it will result in a much better team taking the field this time around.

 

[seahawk 17]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

 

[Dinkle Heimer]

This thread is awful.

They always are (and get worse come playoff time).

 

[Breesisdaman]

I heard some interesting things on local radio about Wilson. They had one of Seattle's local D.J.'s on, I wished I could remember his name but they were talking about how the whole city had embraced the Seahawks and made comparisons to the Saints after Katrina and how the whole city and team were galvanized toward winning a Superbowl. Also spoke about Wilson about how he compared to Brees both on and off the field. Talked about his character and how he went once a week to Children's hospital etc.I found it informative and I gained a lot of respect for Wilson from it.

I haven't heard much in the way of the Seahawks and their preparation on the game etc. so if you hawks fans have something thats on you to share. I have shared what I know on the Saints. As far as the weather, it is not going to be a factor, yes it should be raining but Seattle rain and what we call rain here in the south are two totally different things. Winds are supposed to be around 11 mph and the temps are going to be warmer there than they are here. Presently we are under the same polar vortex the rest of the country is under and have below freezing temps on the south shore in New Orleans with warnings of protecting pets, plants and wrapping pipes. etc.

 

[Gadabout]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

We can try. Somebody usually gets their feelings hurt.

 

[Gadabout]

Oh, Joe Horn's Bayou 87 verdict: Decent. Nothing I'll buy again. It's definitely better than the cheap stuff.

I almost tried to switch things up on the fowl side of things, but there wasn't any quail and the seahawk that they had at the store was packed full of growth hormones. Decided to stick with the yard bird.

 

[The General]

I heard some interesting things on local radio about Wilson. They had one of Seattle's local D.J.'s on, I wished I could remember his name but they were talking about how the whole city had embraced the Seahawks and made comparisons to the Saints after Katrina and how the whole city and team were galvanized toward winning a Superbowl. Also spoke about Wilson about how he compared to Brees both on and off the field. Talked about his character and how he went once a week to Children's hospital etc.I found it informative and I gained a lot of respect for Wilson from it.

I haven't heard much in the way of the Seahawks and their preparation on the game etc. so if you hawks fans have something thats on you to share. I have shared what I know on the Saints. As far as the weather, it is not going to be a factor, yes it should be raining but Seattle rain and what we call rain here in the south are two totally different things. Winds are supposed to be around 11 mph and the temps are going to be warmer there than they are here. Presently we are under the same polar vortex the rest of the country is under and have below freezing temps on the south shore in New Orleans with warnings of protecting pets, plants and wrapping pipes. etc.

When Wilson first got here you heard about this kid who out worked everyone, first guy in last guy out, was a natural leader, etc. But, quite honestly Seattle media is pretty much always going to be non-controversial and glom onto any feel good type of story so I didn't think much of the talk. His play on the field speaks to what kind of talent he has. But to his character, you listen to him and he always says the right thing and is always so composed. You almost think this has to be an act but it isn't. The guy is just about as solid a person as there is.

 

[ScottyDog]

Gadabigbutt,

You are smoking your sausage. HFA in order:

1)Seattle

2)NO

3)NE

You sure did come into this thread with your chest puffed out. Since you are so sure Seattle has the best HFA without doubt, show me the wins stat that backs it up? As of last year going back to 1990 the Packers and Steelers have the best percentage at home, 72%. In sports, the win loss record is what matters, not the Guinness record or who can wear the wildest wig.

If you are trolling, high probability, please up your game.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/10170641/bill-barnwell-best-home-field-advantages

There you go

I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it.

According to this article, it factors point differential for each team home and away. I guess that matters to you, which is fine. All I care about is the win (by 1 or 100).

Like I said, I understand that because it kills your argument you will find some lame reason to say the article is incorrect. A logical sane thinking person would realize this article nails it. It clearly lays out how playing at home is an advantage for certain teams. Things like this are exactly why I went from posting informative information years ago to just doing what I do now. Its a complete waste to be logical because nobody reads it.

I'll disagree that it proves Seattle is the toughest place to play (even though it could support that argument) or they have the biggest hfa. Seattle could just suck on the road more than other teams in the running. The numbers could easily be called visiting field disadvantage. Seattle is number one in VFD.

Seattle......6-2 on the road this year. What were the Saints?

 

[seahawk 17]

One of my concerns is Doug Baldwin...what's going on with him? One catch in the last two games.

He's doing a Q&A session tomorrow if you're interested

Listened, not a lot of actual football talk, but he seems like a nice and humble guy.

 

[valhallan]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

I made two separate posts about the Seahawks run defense in their losses & narrow victories. The response went kinda like this -

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This thread has gotten silly, but I want to know why Saints fans in here think it's going to take a miracle to win? Obviously it's a tough match-up, but it can be done.

1) Run the ball effectively - Seattle secondary/pass rush are too good, no need to play into their strength. Run the ball 30+ times and hope to set up some reasonable 3rd downs. Run on the first 3rd and medium to keep them honest. Seattle and Philly were very similar statistically against the run.

2) Play some D - The Monday nighter was by far the worst defensive performance of the season. Apparently being #4 in yards & points allowed means nothing. It meant nothing before the Eagle game, and it means nothing now, but the Monday night game was the anomaly, not the norm, for both teams.

3) No Turnovers - Pretty obvious, don't turn the ball over.

Some obvious football cliches, but people assume the Saints aren't capable of those feats. The national media is about 2 years behind when it comes to the Saints. They have the potential to be a very balanced team, and as long as Payton doesn't get pass happy, it should be a close game. If Payton gets pass happy, it's another whooping.

Because it's a natural defense mechanism to say you have no chance and if you pull it off you get to feel that much better about it. The truth is deep down inside those same Saints fans are thinking they'll win this game. They just don't want to commit to it on a forum.

Also, I hope the Saints try to run the ball all day. That would certainly be playing to our strengths.

I really don't think any Saints fan is trying to delude themselves. We lost in Seattle even when you had a team half as good as the current one. Why would we predict victory this time?

Everything is Seattle's strength, apparently. Fact is two of the three teams that beat the Seahawks had excellent days on the ground and three others that barely lost (Houston, St Louis and Tampa) all had huge rushing performances. So passing didn't work for us and running has been the only decent formula against Seattle, so obviously we're thinking a ground heavy gameplan is the best choice.

The truth is deep down inside those same Saints fans are thinking they'll win this game. They just don't want to commit to it on a forum.

I don't know how to explain this except to say we have seen and done things that no other city has.

We have a connection to this football team.

I know what you mean though, I think we know it too. Maybe if we win we can explain it. Maybe if we lose it will mean nothing more other than you can be sure we will back again.

Everything is Seattle's strength, apparently. Fact is two of the three teams that beat the Seahawks had excellent days on the ground and three others that barely lost (Houston, St Louis and Tampa) all had huge rushing performances. So passing didn't work for us and running has been the only decent formula against Seattle, so obviously we're thinking a ground heavy gameplan is the best choice.

I've come around on this, I agree. Maybe last time we figured Graham, Pierre, Sproles, Colston, Moore, Stills all just show up.

If any of the first 5 things and last 2 things bolded below happen, the Saints' chances of winning go way way way up. The running game is right there as maybe the biggest factor. I would like to see 100+ yards and/or 40+ rushes.

And pass defense - that is a huge key. If not a couple sacks then definitely a couple serious playoff licks on Wilson, and keep the Hawks passing game to <250, even lower like <225, per NO's season average, would be awesome.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Factoids:

SEAN PAYTON’S RECORD WHEN (Regular Season)

Leading After First Quarter.............................................41-9

Leading at halftime.........................................................64-6

Leading After Third Quarter...........................................62-5

Saints Score First...........................................................43-9

Saints 200+ Yards Passing..........................................66-32

Opponent Under 200 Yards Passing...........................31-16

Saints Have 100+ Yards Rushing................................49-11

Forcing 3+ Turnovers....................................................21-2

Defense Has3+ Sacks.................................................33-12

Indoors.........................................................................49-22

Outdoors......................................................................24-17

At Home.......................................................................40-16

On The Road................................................................33-23

On Artificial Turf…........................................................53-24

Scoring 20 Or More Points...........................................68-23

Allowing 20 Or Fewer Points..........................................48-4

Committing Zero Turnovers..........................................25-0

SEAN PAYTON’S RECORD WHEN (Postseason)

Leading After First Quarter.............................................2-1

Tied After First Quarter……............................................1-0

Trailing After First Quarter...............................................3-2

Leading At Halftime…………...........................................2-0

Tied At Halftime…………..…...........................................1-0

Trailing At Halftime…………............................................3-3

Leading After Third Quarter.............................................4-0

Tied After Third Quarter...................................................1-0

Trailing After Third Quarter..............................................1-3

Saints Score First.............................................................2-1

Opponent Scores First.....................................................4-2

Saints 200+ Yards Passing..........................................5-3

Opponent Under 200 Yards Passing...........................1-1

Saints Have 100+ Yards Rushing................................4-0

Forcing 3+ Turnovers....................................................1-0

Defense Has3+ Sacks.................................................1-1

Indoors.........................................................................4-0

Outdoors......................................................................2-3

At Home.......................................................................4-0

On The Road................................................................1-3

Neutral Location...............................................................1-0

On Artificial Turf…........................................................4-1

Scoring 20 Or More Points...........................................6-2

Allowing 20 Or Fewer Points..........................................2-0

Committing Zero Turnovers..........................................2-0

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

For the straw graspers:

ROAD*WARRIORS

Since 2006, the Saints have the third-best road record in the NFL*at 35-29 (.581). Since 2009, with a 23-17 regular season record on the road, the Saints are tied for the second-best road winning percentage (.600).

NFL’s BEST*REGULAR*SEASON*ROAD*RECORDS

SINCE*2006

Team Record

1. New England 46-18

2. New York Giants 37-27

3. New Orleans 35-29

NFL’s BEST REGULAR*SEASON*ROAD*RECORDS

SINCE*2009

Team Record

1. New England 24-16

2t. New Orleans 23-17

2t. Green Bay 23-17

NFL’s BEST*REGULAR*SEASON*HOME SINCE*2008

Team Record

1. New England 42-6

2. Baltimore 39-9

3. New Orleans 37-11

4. Atlanta 36-12

5. Pittsburgh 33-15

As we all know there is that fakey 2011 year in there too.

****

Anyone surprised by any numbers here?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Straws, straws, straws:

TIME OF POSSESSION TURNAROUND

After holding onto the ball for an average of only 28:36 per game in 2012, the Saints’ 32:41 time of possession average finished ranked second in the NFL is an important reason in the club’s 11-5 record in 2013 where they exceeded their win total of the previous season by four victories. The time of possession turnaround is an increase of over four minutes. In the club’s Wild Card Playoff victory at Philadelphia, New Orleans won the time of possession battle 34:53-25:07, milking the clock for the final 4:54 of the contest in their game-winning drive then ended with a field goal as time expired.

TOP TIME OF POSSESSION AVERAGE BY NFL TEAMS

IN 2013

Team TOP

1. SD 33:08

2. NO 32:41

3. Car. 31:54

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

So things that have been going on since 2006 and through to today, and almost all this season...

********************

THIRD*DOWN*CONVERSION*PCT. SINCE*2006

Team Made Att. Pct.

1. NO 801 1,698 47.2

2. Ind. 744 1,644 45.3

3. NE 751 1,683 44.6

2013 NFL*THIRD*DOWN*CONVERSION*PCT. LEADERS

Team Made Att. Pct.

1. SD 101 206 49.0

2. Den. 95 205 46.3

3. NO 97 221 43.9

FIRST*DOWNS

The Saints rank first in the NFC and second in the NFL with 2,856 first downs since 2006. In 2013, the Saints finished ranked first in the NFC and fourth in the NFL with 359 first downs, having set an NFL single-game record with 40 first downs in the November 10 win over the Cowboys .

NFL*FIRST*DOWN LEADERS*SINCE*2006

Team No. Rush Pass Pen

1. NE 3,008 991 1,771 246

2. NO 2,856 772 1,913 171

3. Ind. 2,695 734 1,736 225

NFL*FIRST*DOWN LEADERS*IN 2013

Team No. Rush Pass Pen

1. Den. 435 107 293 35

2. NE 378 110 225 43

3. SD 373 104 230 39

4. NO 359 87 244 28

5. Phi. 355 133 197 25

**********************************

...and we have one game that stands out as an aberration.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The Saints are the only team in NFL history with four players with 70+ receptions.

But consider two RBs with 70+ receivers - still sound like no big deal?

Look at the other players on the list:

　

TOP RECEIVING TOTALS BY RUNNING BACKS IN 2013

Player Rec. Yds. Avg. TDs

1. Pierre Thomas, NO 77 513 6.7 3

2. Danny Woodhead, SD 76 605 8.0 6

3. Matt Forte, Chi. 74 594 8.0 3

4. Darren Sproles, NO 71 604 8.5 2

5. Jamaal Charles, KC 70 693 9.9 7

This team has RBs with more receptions than Forte and Charles combined.

 

[Ghost Rider]

That is utter crap, and you know it.

I think Breesisdaman is mostly right here. Not that I took a head count or anything, but I think the national-media consensus in the 2009 playoffs was about 50-50 for the NFC title game. For Super Bowl XLIV, though, ISTM that 4 out of 5 talking heads favored the Colts. Prognosticators picking the Saints could be found, but the Colts had numbers.

For what all that is worth this weekend.

Saints fans will tell you that the team seems to play a lot better when counted out ... and that they also play down when strongly favored by the media.

That's fine, but just don't feed us this nonsense about every single person in the media picking against the Saints in '09 when that clearly wasn't the case. That kind of "wahhhh, no one respects us and gives us a chance" bull #### line means nothing, and won't have anything to do with how the Saints play on Sunday.

Ghost Rider if you take every figure of speech literally, I mean come on. I don't mean every single possible person picked the Vikings or Colts. Just a majority in fact we all know that the NFL wanted its golden boy Brett Favre and Peyton Manning to square off in an epic battle and the Saints ruined it for them. Personally I think a lot of the bad blood that came the Saints way was because of that. Goodell was on the Vikings Sideline and his wife is a Vikings fan. But I digress, Lets stay to the topic at hand and this match between the Saints and the Seahawks and not square off over every minor detail of everything I write. Do you or do you not agree that the Saints should feel the revenge factor for this game? and if so how powerful do you think those emotions can be? That is where I wanted to take the conversation and not quable over the other stuff.

Okay, we can go that route.

How much do I think the Saints wanting revenge will affect this game? Very little. I am sure the Packers wanted revenge against the 49ers for losing to them three times in the last 16 months, but they lost to them again the other day. Teams don't win playoff games because of revenge. Sure, it can be added fuel, but if the other team is better than you and plays better than you, your lust for revenge won't really matter, will it?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

2013 SAINTS-SEAHAWKS REGULAR

SEASON STATISTICAL COMPARISON

League Rankings

Saints Seattle

Record 11-5 13-3

Scoring Avg. (NFL Rank) 25.9 (10) 26.1 (8t)

Opp. Scoring Avg. (NFL Rank) 19.0 (4) 14.4 (1)

Total Off. (NFL Rank) 399.4 (4) 339.0 (17)

Rushing Off. (NFL Rank) 92.1 (25) 136.8 (4)

Passing Off. (NFL Rank) 307.4 (2) 202.3 (26)

Total Def. (NFL Rank) 305.7 (4) 273.6 (1)

Rushing Def. (NFL Rank) 111.6 (19) 101.6 (7t)

Passing Def. (NFL Rank) 194.1 (2) 172.0(1)

Kickoff Return Avg. (NFL Rank) 23.0 (17) 21.2 (28)

Punt Return Avg. (NFL Rank) 6.1 (30) 11.2 (9)

Turnover Margin (NFL Rank) Even (14t) +20 (1)

Penalties 95 128

Penalty Yards 817 1,183

Opp. Penalties 91 98

Opp. Penalty Yards 750 879

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

That is utter crap, and you know it.

I think Breesisdaman is mostly right here. Not that I took a head count or anything, but I think the national-media consensus in the 2009 playoffs was about 50-50 for the NFC title game. For Super Bowl XLIV, though, ISTM that 4 out of 5 talking heads favored the Colts. Prognosticators picking the Saints could be found, but the Colts had numbers.

For what all that is worth this weekend.

Saints fans will tell you that the team seems to play a lot better when counted out ... and that they also play down when strongly favored by the media.

That's fine, but just don't feed us this nonsense about every single person in the media picking against the Saints in '09 when that clearly wasn't the case. That kind of "wahhhh, no one respects us and gives us a chance" bull #### line means nothing, and won't have anything to do with how the Saints play on Sunday.

Ghost Rider if you take every figure of speech literally, I mean come on. I don't mean every single possible person picked the Vikings or Colts. Just a majority in fact we all know that the NFL wanted its golden boy Brett Favre and Peyton Manning to square off in an epic battle and the Saints ruined it for them. Personally I think a lot of the bad blood that came the Saints way was because of that. Goodell was on the Vikings Sideline and his wife is a Vikings fan. But I digress, Lets stay to the topic at hand and this match between the Saints and the Seahawks and not square off over every minor detail of everything I write. Do you or do you not agree that the Saints should feel the revenge factor for this game? and if so how powerful do you think those emotions can be? That is where I wanted to take the conversation and not quable over the other stuff.

Okay, we can go that route.

How much do I think the Saints wanting revenge will affect this game? Very little. I am sure the Packers wanted revenge against the 49ers for losing to them three times in the last 16 months, but they lost to them again the other day. Teams don't win playoff games because of revenge. Sure, it can be added fuel, but if the other team is better than you and plays better than you, your lust for revenge won't really matter, will it?

Guys: these two teams will be 100% absolutely totally completely hyper motivated for this game. It does not go to 11. This is the playoffs, it will be fantastic, wherever they dig down and find their motivation these teams will be playing for their absolute best all year (whether they get there or not is another thing, but they will both be at maximum wattage.). - The other games will have nothing on us, skrew the 9ers, Panthers and all the rest - we are duking it out for the Lombardi. Private rumble, only the best invited. Enjoy.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If you are going through hell, keep going.

Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

Sure I am of this, that you have only to endure to conquer. You have only to persevere to save yourselves.

We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and the oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender. . .

Never give up. Never, never give up!. We shall go on to the end.

Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

 

[seahawk 17]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

I made two separate posts about the Seahawks run defense in their losses & narrow victories. The response went kinda like this -

I spent awhile reading PC's comments after the above mentioned games. The common theme he mentioned was the fact that the defense keeps playing overly aggressive and are over pursuing the runner. Earl Thomas stated that they are to aggressive also, and struggling with RB's who are patient.

I don't know if Thomas, Sproles, or Robinson fall in the patient category?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Out of nowhere the Saints have jettisoned backup safety Isa Abdul-Quddus and signed safety Jordan Pugh.

Payton apparently is no mood for stragglers.

I cannot even keep up with the DB situation:

- Lewis: playing (whew). Getting near shutdown status.

- White on the other side: can be burned, can also be a ballhawk.

- Harper, Jenkins, Bush only regular safeties for a team that likes to play three safeties at once. And Pugh, who is at least a vet.

- Sweeting, Wade, Fredrick are the backup CBs. - Sweeting is super fast, not much else. - Wade and Frederick are brand spankin new, both were signed since December off the Browns.

Keyunta Dawson, not Herring or Humber, is starting at OLB for Haralson, per the team site's depth chart.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

I made two separate posts about the Seahawks run defense in their losses & narrow victories. The response went kinda like this -

I spent awhile reading PC's comments after the above mentioned games. The common theme he mentioned was the fact that the defense keeps playing overly aggressive and are over pursuing the runner. Earl Thomas stated that they are to aggressive also, and struggling with RB's who are patient.

I don't know if Thomas, Sproles, or Robinson fall in the patient category?

Khiry falls in the patient category I'd say.

Ingram is patient to a fault; less patience please.

 

[Gadabout]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

I made two separate posts about the Seahawks run defense in their losses & narrow victories. The response went kinda like this -

I spent awhile reading PC's comments after the above mentioned games. The common theme he mentioned was the fact that the defense keeps playing overly aggressive and are over pursuing the runner. Earl Thomas stated that they are to aggressive also, and struggling with RB's who are patient.

I don't know if Thomas, Sproles, or Robinson fall in the patient category?

Khiry falls in the patient category I'd say.

Ingram is patient to a fault; less patience please.

P Yeah can be patient but that usually comes in the form of his shiftiness.

 

[valhallan]

This has been going on for over 12 hours, can we all agree to disagree and talk about the game?

I made two separate posts about the Seahawks run defense in their losses & narrow victories. The response went kinda like this -

I spent awhile reading PC's comments after the above mentioned games. The common theme he mentioned was the fact that the defense keeps playing overly aggressive and are over pursuing the runner. Earl Thomas stated that they are to aggressive also, and struggling with RB's who are patient.

I don't know if Thomas, Sproles, or Robinson fall in the patient category?

Interesting insight.Thomas is very patient and smart. Sproles rarely carries. Robinson is more of a bull. Ingram used to be too patient (more like timid) but seems to have become more aggressive.

I can't find any news on Pierre's availability. A two headed attack between him and Ingram would give me some hope.

 

[seahawk 17]

Here is the template to beat the Hawks.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/07/seattle-seahawks-nfl-playoffs-2014/?eref=sihp

 

[Breesisdaman]

That is utter crap, and you know it.

I think Breesisdaman is mostly right here. Not that I took a head count or anything, but I think the national-media consensus in the 2009 playoffs was about 50-50 for the NFC title game. For Super Bowl XLIV, though, ISTM that 4 out of 5 talking heads favored the Colts. Prognosticators picking the Saints could be found, but the Colts had numbers.

For what all that is worth this weekend.

Saints fans will tell you that the team seems to play a lot better when counted out ... and that they also play down when strongly favored by the media.

That's fine, but just don't feed us this nonsense about every single person in the media picking against the Saints in '09 when that clearly wasn't the case. That kind of "wahhhh, no one respects us and gives us a chance" bull #### line means nothing, and won't have anything to do with how the Saints play on Sunday.

Ghost Rider if you take every figure of speech literally, I mean come on. I don't mean every single possible person picked the Vikings or Colts. Just a majority in fact we all know that the NFL wanted its golden boy Brett Favre and Peyton Manning to square off in an epic battle and the Saints ruined it for them. Personally I think a lot of the bad blood that came the Saints way was because of that. Goodell was on the Vikings Sideline and his wife is a Vikings fan. But I digress, Lets stay to the topic at hand and this match between the Saints and the Seahawks and not square off over every minor detail of everything I write. Do you or do you not agree that the Saints should feel the revenge factor for this game? and if so how powerful do you think those emotions can be? That is where I wanted to take the conversation and not quable over the other stuff.

Okay, we can go that route.

How much do I think the Saints wanting revenge will affect this game? Very little. I am sure the Packers wanted revenge against the 49ers for losing to them three times in the last 16 months, but they lost to them again the other day. Teams don't win playoff games because of revenge. Sure, it can be added fuel, but if the other team is better than you and plays better than you, your lust for revenge won't really matter, will it?

I can agree with that. I don't think these teams are that far apart in ability. Certainly not as far apart as that Monday night game would indicate. Sometimes a bit of fuel is what is needed.

 

[proninja]

I really hope the Saints decide that the best way to beat the Seahawks is to focus on the run game

 

[Gadabout]

I really hope the Saints decide that the best way to beat the Seahawks is to focus on the run game

That makes two of us

Unless you're talking about focusing on stopping Seattle's run game.

 

[ScottyDog]

Seattle's run D has stiffened considerably the last few weeks. I don't think the Saints are going to be able to establish a run game. They will be forced to pass and Brees is going to struggle. Case in point is Zac Stacy of the Rams. He went for 200 in the 1st meeting and went for 15 on 15 carries in the rematch. I see a lot of Saint fans saying how you will need to run to win. That will be the big problem in my opinion. You will not be able to run.

 

[ScottyDog]

Prepare Saint fans to be blown out again. You guys are in denial if you think it will be close.

 

[valhallan]

Prepare Saint fans to be blown out again. You guys are in denial if you think it will be close.

Read the thread before you start spouting this crap. Who am I kidding. It's impossible to have a conversation in here.

Cheers, seahawk 17. A short window of sanity was nice.

 

[proninja]

Prepare Saint fans to be blown out again. You guys are in denial if you think it will be close.

Read the thread before you start spouting this crap.Who am I kidding. It's impossible to have a conversation in here.

Cheers, seahawk 17. A short window of sanity was nice.

I'm sorry for the personal trauma you have had inflicted on you in here. I hope your healing is quick and healthy.

 

[cacksman]

Golden Tate this morning on the return on Percy Harvin. As you can read he goes on and on about Percy and effect on the offense. Certainly doesn't sound like a guy that is iffy on if he will play Saturday.

Question: Is it realistic to think he can just plug and play Saturday?

Tate: "Well if you think a few weeks back he wasn't 100% healthy and first time he touches a kick return he takes it 58 yards, the first time he gets a seam he pretty much one hands it. So if that's him not healthy, what's he gonna be like 100%? With that being said I don't see the Seahawks changing their entire offense like "Of my god we gotta have this big package for Percy", I don't see that happening. I think we're going to stay with what we do. Run the ball well, hit them big with explosive plays and I think we're gonna have some things for him.

Teams haven't gameplanned for Percy right now and we're in the playoffs and you gotta do whatever it takes to win at the end of the day. We're out here fighting for our lives and this is another guy they don't have on film so I see that as a big positive for us.

Special teams you have to worry about, Are they going to kick it deep to him? Our kickoff return team is already great, we have great blockers. Is he going to give us great field position? Are you going to punt it to me? Wow we have Percy out here on the seam against a linebacker some strange way. Is he going to run right by him and catch a big play? You never know and you have to gameplan that so we're excited to have him back. I'm actually getting excited just thinking about it.I feel like it's perfect timing to get one of the fastest, most explosive guys in the league back, that's exciting to me.

http://icestream.bonnint.net/seattle/kiro/2014/01/c_brockanddanny010714_9965932.mp3