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NFL viewership off 11% YOY (1 Viewer)
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Homer J Simpson
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Leroy Hoard
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The NFL has two things going for it over college. The best players + closer matchups on average. Outside of gamblers, who really wants to watch these 30 point blowouts?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I have found checking scores and updates on my phone more interesting than the games itself.
Although Fantasy helped more people become more interested it also is killing the actual viewing as it is more fun to watch the box scores and stats pile up on your phone. The people my daughters age all play FF but hardly ever watch the actual games.
Although Fantasy helped more people become more interested it also is killing the actual viewing as it is more fun to watch the box scores and stats pile up on your phone. The people my daughters age all play FF but hardly ever watch the actual games.
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omahawildcat25
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I didn't think how many people actually watch the games was a big deal. They moved two teams to LA.
DocHolliday
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omahawildcat25
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Todem
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DocHolliday
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omahawildcat25
Footballguy
Both. If the NFL wants viewers, in or out of a stadium, moving teams to LA was a down right idiotic decision. It was a comical proposition at the beginning and the fact you can't even fill a 30,000 seat stadium with $6 dollar tickets is just one example. Hope the Cali people continue having fun throwing tax money away.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Was forced to watch Seattle/San Francisco. Why are ratings down? Games like that. Just horrendous viewing experience. Terrible football. I don't blame people who have moved on from watching garbage football.
IC FBGCav
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General Malaise
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General Malaise
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Ned
Footballguy
And that's with all of the rule changes tilting the scales in favor of the QB/WR.Both games had a combined 26 punts.
NFL....it's FANNNNNNNNNNNNNNTASTIC
DocHolliday
Footballguy
I wasn't trying to be a jerk asking you to unpack your initial comments. I didn't know where you were going. I totally agree that the NFL made a big mistake moving 2 teams to LA. LA does not have the NFL fan base to support 2 teams. Stadium ticket sales are going to struggle. The team that wins a lot first will get some fans. I have no idea if that will ever be enough to fill a stadium but it will be interesting to watch.
The product itself is the main reason that TV viewership is down. Games are slow and boring very often.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The Rams are actually sort of a fun team to watch this year so far, incredibly. And the Chargers have always had a good offense. Out of curiosity what would a ticket off an exchange or online or on the street cost to get in for a decent seat out of curiosity?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'm sure it wasn't a great seat, but Rams tickets for week 1 were selling for $6 on the secondary market.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Like a lot of stadiums these days, it can actually cost you more to park your car than buy a ticket.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Is this about the fast train between L.A. and S.F. boondoggle?
ETA: The capacity of the L.A. Coliseum is over 93K. You seem to be confusing the Rams and the Chargers.
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Niles Standish
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I watch less and less NFL or college football nowadays. I still watch my home town team if I'm around that day and it's playing. But I rarely watch any other games. Not interested in Philly/Washington or Pitt/Baltimore. Honestly I don't even watch much of the playoffs.
General Malaise
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Zegras11
Footballguy
I was just going to post this. It'll be more like 95% though. And when the Raiders move to Vegas, their LA fan base will make a weekend out of it. I really can't see the Chargers ever developing a fanbase there. Old Charger fans are still bashing the Charger FB page in massive numbers.
The Rams have a chance. I can't find any attendance numbers for 2017 though. Still a lot of old Rams fans.
omahawildcat25
Footballguy
No, it is the fact that California is going to have to support 2 NFL teams that can't support themselves due to revenue.
Is this about the fast train between L.A. and S.F. boondoggle?
ETA: The capacity of the L.A. Coliseum is over 93K. You seem to be confusing the Rams and the Chargers.
I don't care what the capacity of the LA coliseum is. The Rams and Chargers both will have pitiful game attendances.
bagger
Footballguy
Was in LA this weekend, super thrilled to get my choice of Rams/Skins or Chargers/Miami in the afternoon.
but hey it is better than NC st versus Furman.
Capella
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
The NFL has a major problem and they are too arrogant to see it.
1. Their product sucks, end of story. It's boring as a fan attending games.
2. Commercials, stupid penalties and long stoppages kill the game. End of story. They need to revamp all 3 of those things.
When it comes to commercials, it's widely known that most stoppages are for commercials. Each team gets 3 timeouts a half. That's fine. A break at end of quarter, fine. But we are past the point in society where having a commercial break is acceptable. Consumers are doing everything they can to get around commercials. The NFL, granted, has its hands tied because its wealth is a direct benefit from the massive tv package.
But kids won't put up with this. My son is 8. I couldn't dream of him sitting down to watch a whole game with me. I don't know any of his friends that do either.
The IPad/streaming generation, especially those kids that have had it from birth, are going to hate the NFL. It's WAY too old school.
Now I'm not saying kids don't enjoy the NFL, but they don't enjoy it enough to do what we did as young kids, sit in front of the tv glued to their TV sets.
Its over for the NFL as the bigtime sport.
1. Their product sucks, end of story. It's boring as a fan attending games.
2. Commercials, stupid penalties and long stoppages kill the game. End of story. They need to revamp all 3 of those things.
When it comes to commercials, it's widely known that most stoppages are for commercials. Each team gets 3 timeouts a half. That's fine. A break at end of quarter, fine. But we are past the point in society where having a commercial break is acceptable. Consumers are doing everything they can to get around commercials. The NFL, granted, has its hands tied because its wealth is a direct benefit from the massive tv package.
But kids won't put up with this. My son is 8. I couldn't dream of him sitting down to watch a whole game with me. I don't know any of his friends that do either.
The IPad/streaming generation, especially those kids that have had it from birth, are going to hate the NFL. It's WAY too old school.
Now I'm not saying kids don't enjoy the NFL, but they don't enjoy it enough to do what we did as young kids, sit in front of the tv glued to their TV sets.
Its over for the NFL as the bigtime sport.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Combine the head injuries issue and the seeming inability for someone somewhere to make a safer helmet, and I honestly doubt my future children walk the path I did growing up and enjoy the NFL. And I hate to say it, but I don't think I'll let my kids go out for football if they ask. Most any other sport, sure. But not football.
It's a whole new world our kids are going to see than the one we saw growing up.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Emmy ratings were at an all time low as well. Maybe people are just not watching as much TV.
Zow
Footballguy
With the bad starts to the Cardinals season, I think there will be similar number this week when Dallas goes to Arizona.
I know several season ticket-holders who always sell their tickets because they can gouge Cowboy fans.
Zow
Footballguy
This is a relatively interesting issue for me because, personally, I do so much fantasy football and game betting that I'm glued to every game and every play. Oh, the Jags are losing to the Titans by 27? Well, Marqise Lee was my long shot play with week in a couple of leagues so I'm glued hoping for that garbage time bomb. Also, wistfully hoping that Josh McCown doesn't get some garbage time score because I have the Raiders defense. Lastly, come on Niners, bleed this out because I have you and the points!
Gotta admit though if it weren't for 1) the awesomeness of the red zone channel; 2) gambling; and 3) my wife genuinely seeming to enjoy cooking on sundays during football I'm not so sure I'd be so interested. The games themselves really are pretty bad right now. Really, really bad 0-line play.
Gotta admit though if it weren't for 1) the awesomeness of the red zone channel; 2) gambling; and 3) my wife genuinely seeming to enjoy cooking on sundays during football I'm not so sure I'd be so interested. The games themselves really are pretty bad right now. Really, really bad 0-line play.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Oddly enough, you just stated the exact reason I gave up FF. Got tired of sitting through crappy games for that very reason. My viewership has dropped real close to nil at this point. Can't say I miss it much. When I do try to watch, 17 commercials followed up by a few replay delays and I'm out.
shadyridr
Footballguy
This is my first year I'm not glued to my tv every Sunday because my son is in flag football and fall baseball and his schedule on Sundays is packed. I'm usually out most of the day and don't miss it at all. Still check my fantasy scores on my phone will doing something I find much more fun than laying on couch for 8 hours trying to stay awake during horrible games.
Zow
Footballguy
I can't stand watching just one set game with all the commercials. For the stand alone games (i.e. Thursday, Sunday and Monday nights) I always DVR them, ignore my phone, and start watching like 90 minutes into the game and fast forward even between plays.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
I couldn't tell you the last time I watched Thur night game. Those are typically beyond horrible. As for MNF, maybe if it is a team I root for. Then I might watch a half if I'm bored. Admittedly, the older I get, the busier I get. The busier I get, the less I care to waste a Sunday afternoon watching football. A cold or rainy day is about the only chance of it happening anymore.
shadyridr
Footballguy
The Thursday night games are an abomination. Not only do players have less time to rest and prepare but every team has to play one. That means teams like the jets, bills, jags, browns, etc all get prime time games. And how do you schedule those games? Make them play against good teams leading to definite blow outs or against each other?
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RUSF18
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I was pretty much with you until this.
The NBA just had it's dream Finals scenario and it's ratings finally approached an average regular season primetime game. That is a ####load of ground to make up.
Capella
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Bills-Panthers summary:
First 59 minutes: Nothing
Final minute: Blown call negates a Buffalo first down and kneecaps their final drive.
Final play: Rookie WR drops game-winning TD pass.
NFL 2017
lumpy19
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
These replays need to be 30 seconds max
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