players like Kane don't get traded...unless they play in Boston
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NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (2 Viewers)
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Hawks64
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But...But...Gretzky was traded!?!?!?!
In all seriousness I see two scenarios. If he's charged/indicted he gets cut a la Richards and the Kings. If he's not charged he's a Hawk, might do some sort of counseling or some such but he stays a Hawk.
chet
Footballguy
IMO, they'll need the PR job of the year to repair his image even if they decide not to prosecute.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Interesting how earlier this summer you were defending Seguin by saying that it was simply a matter of getting older and more mature, and you pointed out Kane as an example.
How's that working out?
3 Stanley Cups? Working out pretty well for Chicago.
I'm not a Kane fan, but all recent reports before this latest incident were that he had matured. Not sure what the truth is now, so tough to say but I'm pretty sure Chicago is happy they didn't treat him the way the Bruins did Seguin. Pretty sure the Bruins would like to have Seguin back too.
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Dickie Dunn
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We'll just have to continue to agree to disagree on that.As for Kane, I'm not sure if's any solace to the Blackhawks that he "appeared" to have matured, if there is any truth to what happened this summer. Doesn't mean they have to give any of their rings back, but I'm sure it sucks regardless.
Boston
Footballguy
chet
Footballguy
They have no case if the woman doesn't testify and Kane has the deep pockets to convince her of the wisdom to not testify. Don't get me wrong, I think PK is guilty but I also think there's a good chance this case doesn't go to trial. It sucks, I know, but such is the reality of a big name star getting himself in this type of situation.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
RUSF18
Footballguy
Hawks64
Footballguy
If so, good riddance. Cut him, get the cap back and move on. So if he's charged this should be just like Richards no?
I assume so.
Richards situation hasn't really been resolved yet though. Kings might still have to pay him.
Hawks64
Footballguy
chet
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Hawks64
Footballguy
Wow that's pretty professional of him. I'm sure the Rangers are very happy to read about that!
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Islanders are going to unveil new black and white third jerseys because Brooklyn. :X
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Kane case will go to grand jury next week.
http://abc7chicago.com/sports/patrick-kane-assault-case-will-reportedly-go-to-grand-jury-next-week/970916/
http://abc7chicago.com/sports/patrick-kane-assault-case-will-reportedly-go-to-grand-jury-next-week/970916/
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Even worse than I anticipated:
http://islanderspointblank.com/islanders/report-isles-third-jersey-will-feature-altered-ny-crest/
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tom22406
Footballguy
And still no trade deal.....................which was what that was all about.Talks were he could have been dealt at draft day and that never happened.
Not my point.
Franson!
chet
Footballguy
Updated Buffalo News Article
From the above article:
“They have been in settlement discussions and both say they want their day in court, but both have vacillated from time to time and also said: Let’s just resolve it,” one of the sources said Tuesday.
Three current and former law enforcement officials with knowledge of the case confirmed that Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III postponed beginning the grand jury review, which was set to start at 2 p.m. Tuesday. Two of those sources and a third individual close to the case confirmed settlement talks are ongoing.
Former Erie County District Attorney Frank J. Clark said he was surprised and baffled to learn about the postponement of grand jury proceedings.
“I was surprised, very surprised,” said Clark, who worked closely for many years with Sedita when Sedita was his lead homicide prosecutor.
Clark said he could think of three possible reasons why Sedita would delay presentation of evidence.
“I have delayed presenting a case to a grand jury in the past, and usually the reason is that the defendant’s attorney came to me and said, ‘Please, don’t present this, let’s work out some kind of plea deal,’ ” Clark said. “And we worked out a plea deal.”
Based on everything he has heard about the Kane case, Clark said it appears highly unlikely that Cambria is trying to work out a guilty plea for his client.
“The second possibility is the victim’s attorney coming to the prosecutor and saying, ‘Please hold off on the grand jury for awhile. My client is very upset, she’s in a lot of turmoil, and she just isn’t ready for this at this point,” Clark said. “If he tells you that, you’re going to surmise that they’re trying to work out some kind of civil agreement between the victim and the defendant. But that agreement would not, in any way, be binding on the prosecutor. He could still proceed with his case if he feels strongly about it.”
The third possibility cited by Clark was “witness availability.”
“You sometimes may delay the proceeding because an important witness or two are not immediately available to you,” the retired DA said.
Clark said he was basing his comments on his experience in more than 33 years as a prosecutor and 12 as DA, adding that he really doesn’t know what is happening in the Kane case.
From the above article:
“They have been in settlement discussions and both say they want their day in court, but both have vacillated from time to time and also said: Let’s just resolve it,” one of the sources said Tuesday.
Three current and former law enforcement officials with knowledge of the case confirmed that Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III postponed beginning the grand jury review, which was set to start at 2 p.m. Tuesday. Two of those sources and a third individual close to the case confirmed settlement talks are ongoing.
Former Erie County District Attorney Frank J. Clark said he was surprised and baffled to learn about the postponement of grand jury proceedings.
“I was surprised, very surprised,” said Clark, who worked closely for many years with Sedita when Sedita was his lead homicide prosecutor.
Clark said he could think of three possible reasons why Sedita would delay presentation of evidence.
“I have delayed presenting a case to a grand jury in the past, and usually the reason is that the defendant’s attorney came to me and said, ‘Please, don’t present this, let’s work out some kind of plea deal,’ ” Clark said. “And we worked out a plea deal.”
Based on everything he has heard about the Kane case, Clark said it appears highly unlikely that Cambria is trying to work out a guilty plea for his client.
“The second possibility is the victim’s attorney coming to the prosecutor and saying, ‘Please hold off on the grand jury for awhile. My client is very upset, she’s in a lot of turmoil, and she just isn’t ready for this at this point,” Clark said. “If he tells you that, you’re going to surmise that they’re trying to work out some kind of civil agreement between the victim and the defendant. But that agreement would not, in any way, be binding on the prosecutor. He could still proceed with his case if he feels strongly about it.”
The third possibility cited by Clark was “witness availability.”
“You sometimes may delay the proceeding because an important witness or two are not immediately available to you,” the retired DA said.
Clark said he was basing his comments on his experience in more than 33 years as a prosecutor and 12 as DA, adding that he really doesn’t know what is happening in the Kane case.
2015 additions:E.KaneAaron Rudnicki said:
R.O'Reilly
Reinhart
Eichel
Franson
Lehner
McGinn
Legwand
Bylsma
Can't wait to watch these guys.
Added 4 top-6 forwards, top PP dman, #1 goalie, and Head coach.
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Northern Voice
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@HackswithHaggs: All three Bruins first round picks, Zach Senyshyn, Jake DeBrusk and Jakub Zboril, failed the conditioning test today at start of rookie camp
chet
Footballguy
@HackswithHaggs: All three Bruins first round picks, Zach Senyshyn, Jake DeBrusk and Jakub Zboril, failed the conditioning test today at start of rookie camp
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Any idea what they had to do?
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
everyone was laughing off the Lightning trading Stamkos like his extension was in the bag. you don't think they will look at trading him at some point if he hasn't signed? oh right, you were just talking about draft day. because Eichel would never be moved after the draft. once you pick a guy you are locked in.tom22406 said:
Bill Brasky
Footballguy
@HackswithHaggs: All three Bruins first round picks, Zach Senyshyn, Jake DeBrusk and Jakub Zboril, failed the conditioning test today at start of rookie camp
chet
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DK thinks PK will win the Art Ross trophy as the league's leading scorer this year. Scroll down to Windy City Blues.
Hawks64
Footballguy
chet
Footballguy
I think PK plays. I think he pays the woman a bunch of money and the DA declines to prosecute because she will refuse to testify. I still think PK raped her but also think he gets off without jail time.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Not excited at all about the NFL season but starting to perk up about the pucks starting soon.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Should be interesting, seems like the NHL and Hawks are backing away slowly at the moment.
tom22406
Footballguy
I never said his extension was in the bag but the deal that was being talked about was never gonna happen and it didn't which was my point.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
I'm sure this is not PC to say but isn't the best thing for the girl To just take a settlement? I mean, if not he is going to get his lawyers to tear her apart in an effort for him to get off. Screw it, the damage has already been done and a lot of rape cases are tough to get a conviction. Avoid all the drama and take some cash.
I understand all the arguments the other way and I have a daughter so I can only imagine how I would react if it was my daughter but at the end of the day it might make more sense to take the cash instead of rolling the dice on seeing this POS brought to justice.
I understand all the arguments the other way and I have a daughter so I can only imagine how I would react if it was my daughter but at the end of the day it might make more sense to take the cash instead of rolling the dice on seeing this POS brought to justice.
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Doesn't work like that. She could settle with him all she wants and he might still have to face criminal charges. Since the burden of proof is a whole lot lower in civil court, she could take him for a hefty amount depending on the evidence.
Statcruncher
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With all the young talent fighting for roster slots I'm glad they were able to move Versteeg. Wouldn't mind seeing Bickell go too, but I don't imagine it's going to happen.tom22406 said:
Statcruncher
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