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NL MVP--Howard or Pujols? (1 Viewer)

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If Howard doesn't get it after putting up one of the best non-steroid seasons in the history of the game it will be total bull####.
How do you know he isn't taking HGH?
Why do you care? NFL players have been using this for years and nobody says a word. In the NFL, a 19-year-old kid that is 350lbs. can run a 4.5 40 and have a 45-inch vertical leap? Wow. Awesome. What athletic ability. But if a 19-year-old kid hits 40 home runs, he's a steroid abuser in MLB.
I don't care, but if Bonds was doing the same stuff right now, people would be getting on his case calling him a cheater and such... Is the only difference is that Bonds is not liked?
Just stop, Posty.Bonds has admitted to taking steroids. He just siad he didn't realize they were steroids. He also gained 30 lbs. of muscle when he was already past 30 years old. He went from a 25-35 home runs per guy to a guy challenging for the all-time record.Don't accuse every player who ever has a big home run year of being on drugs just because guys like Bonds, McGuire, and Sosa abused them.
 
As a Philly homer, I was giving this award to Pujols 2 months ago, and real happy that Howard was developing into a great player. But if you compare their numbers since the all star break and see how the Phils have become playoff contenders in the process, I think it's a no brainer for Howard if they grab that WC spot.

 
Actually Howard is smoking Pujols on BABIP = Batting Average on Balls in Play. .355 to .287 and that is with his 170 Ks. The Runs Created/Game are within .5 run a game with a nod to Pujols.
What the heck is this stat?? I've never heard of it and how is it calculated?
Cards are 80-70 with Pujols missing a bunch games. Phils are 79-73 with Howard only taking a couple games off. Would appear the Phils have needed Howard while Cards did fine while Pujols was hurt. The Cards had a bad streak this summer but if I remember correctly Pujols was playing so does not factor in.
Pujols missed 14 games & they went 8-6 without him. A winning record, but their wins were against Milwaukee, Pittsburgh & the Rockies.
BABIP only counts results when a batter hits a fair ball. Since Howard struck out so often, his average will be a lot higher. Pujols doesn't strike out nearly as much, so his average could only be lower. It's a relatively useless stat IMO.
David,I understand where you are coming from here, but if you look at the numbers, Pujols is not even on the first page which is very surprising. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...amp;season=2006 (may have to resort the BABIP column). Look at the leaders. Cabrera, Ramirez, Utley, Sanchez, etc.

The underlying point I was going for is you can analyze a million different stats and make an argument for either guy. There is almost too much information to go on these days.

I think Howard should be MVP myself especially the way the teams are playing now. Both are more than deserving to win it however.

 
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