No thread about Kanye West ruining Taylor Swift's moment (1 Viewer)

[ditka...mike ditka]

I find it hard to have any sympathy for Taylor Swift. She hardly suffered any sort of tragedy. I really don't understand the concern or the outrage.

It's kind of funny watching all the faux outrage over something like this. It's a music video awards show.

And if you are in the music industry, winning an award is a big thing that stays with your career forever. It is brought up whenever you are introduced and it adds to your popularity. Many stars wait their entire lives to win a crappy award and never do (thinking about Susan Lucci here--I know not music, best FAIL example I could come up with). Now her moment has been stolen from her by Kayne, who not only stole her moment physically, but mentally by what he said to denigrate her and her award. Now that is all everyone will remember about her winning. Yup, she has nothing to be upset over.

Me--I find the entire thing funny. I would have thought it funny if he grabbed the mic and shouted BABABOOEY too.

How does anyone not understand this?

 

[Parrothead]

Imagine if Denzel Washington won an Oscar for best actor and Matt Damon rushed the stage and said, "sorry, but Gene Hackman deserves this more.. "

outrage?

 

[Pyscho Wife]

Imagine if Denzel Washington won an Oscar for best actor and Matt Damon rushed the stage and said, "sorry, but Gene Hackman deserves this more.. "

outrage?

I see what you did there.....

 

[Harry Manback]

Imagine if Denzel Washington won an Oscar for best actor and Matt Damon rushed the stage and said, "sorry, but Gene Hackman deserves this more.. "outrage?

Well that would be totally fine, I don't see what the big deal is there???

 

[RBM]

Imagine if Denzel Washington won an Oscar for best actor and Matt Damon rushed the stage and said, "sorry, but Gene Hackman deserves this more.. "outrage?

Definite rioting

 

[trogg78]

another case of keeping it real gone wrong.

 

[Balance]

staged. all of it.

 

[JuniorNB]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

 

[Postradamus]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

not even close to the same thing

 

[Fennis]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

not even close to the same thing

FWIW, and they aren’t the same situations, I thought people overreacted to his comments. He should have been fired because he’s not funny, interesting, relevant and he doesn't get ratings. He shouldn't have been fired for his comments. Comments that I personally found borderline at best - but it was just Imus trying to be shocking and failing.

 

[JuniorNB]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

not even close to the same thing

Never said it was. But Fennis is claiming people are over-reactiong because it didn't really harm Taylor Swift in any way. I'd argue the same thing for Stringer.

 

[Buffaloes]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

 

[Buckfast 1]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I don't think it is a race issue anywhere else but the FFA. It just happens that some of the racial debate is bubbling over into this thread through the use of poor analogies.

 

[JuniorNB]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I can guarantee you that Kanye wouldn't have grabbed the trophy from Alicia Keys and complained that Reba McIntyre deserved it. Let's not fool ourselves, kids. Kanye was making a complaint/statement that had more to do with race than anyone wants to admit.

 

[Buffaloes]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I can guarantee you that Kanye wouldn't have grabbed the trophy from Alicia Keys and complained that Reba McIntyre deserved it.Let's not fool ourselves, kids. Kanye was making a complaint/statement that had more to do with race than anyone wants to admit.

He's probably not a fan of country music.

 

[Parrothead]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I can guarantee you that Kanye wouldn't have grabbed the trophy from Alicia Keys and complained that Reba McIntyre deserved it.Let's not fool ourselves, kids. Kanye was making a complaint/statement that had more to do with race than anyone wants to admit.

He's probably not a fan of country musicwhite people.

fixed

 

[Brutis]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I can guarantee you that Kanye wouldn't have grabbed the trophy from Alicia Keys and complained that Reba McIntyre deserved it. Let's not fool ourselves, kids. Kanye was making a complaint/statement that had more to do with race than anyone wants to admit.

Oh i'll admit it. I hadn't heard of either one of these people until 2 or so days ago, that was the first thing i thought of when i read about it on yahoo.

 

[The Big Guy]

Actual audio of Presiden Obama calling Kanye a jackass, then realizing what he did and who he did it in front of and scrambling to make sure he adds the off the record comments.

Honestly, Obama sounds like a normal person having a normal conversation in the clip.

 

[Statorama]

Honestly, Obama sounds like a normal person having a normal conversation in the clip.

I thought it was refreshing to hear him having what seemed like a casual conversation.People forget sometimes that Obama isn't a robot programmed to destroy the world.

 

[Sweet J]

Actual audio of Presiden Obama calling Kanye a jackass, then realizing what he did and who he did it in front of and scrambling to make sure he adds the off the record comments.

Honestly, Obama sounds like a normal person having a normal conversation in the clip.

This is awesome. At the very endres: "Let's not make a big deal about this. Remember the fly thing?"

Reporter: "Yeah, but that worked out well for you."

Pres: "Except PETA."

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

 

[Buckychudd]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

I can guarantee you that Kanye wouldn't have grabbed the trophy from Alicia Keys and complained that Reba McIntyre deserved it. Let's not fool ourselves, kids. Kanye was making a complaint/statement that had more to do with race than anyone wants to admit.

Not saying that this was a race issue, but....There is a pattern of behavior. The winners he's criticized in the past have all happened to be white.

 

[Buckychudd]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

It's determined by viewer votes.

 

[Courtjester]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

There's a difference between nuanced/technical categories and overall categories for sure. But if the only nuance is that the category is for Femals . . . and she is a female . . . and won for best overall video regardless of sex . . . well . . . .

 

[bigbottom]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

There's a difference between nuanced/technical categories and overall categories for sure. But if the only nuance is that the category is for Femals . . . and she is a female . . . and won for best overall video regardless of sex . . . well . . . .

For one thing, the Taylor Swift video wasn't nominated for video of the year.

 

[Scrooloose]

Be curious to hear Fennis' opinion on how damaging it was to poor little Vivian Stringer when Imus made his nappy-hair comment about the Rutgers basketball team. That must have been horrible for that little lady.

I didn't watch the show and haven't seen the comments outside of this thread. Did West make a racist comment about Swift being white? If not, why are people making this a race issue?

Everything between white and black people in racial. Dont you watch Fox News, jeez

 

[flapgreen]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

There's a difference between nuanced/technical categories and overall categories for sure. But if the only nuance is that the category is for Femals . . . and she is a female . . . and won for best overall video regardless of sex . . . well . . . .

For one thing, the Taylor Swift video wasn't nominated for video of the year.

Anything with her in it should win video of the year. I live only a few miles from her but, sadly, I will never see her.

 

[jmp]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

There's a difference between nuanced/technical categories and overall categories for sure. But if the only nuance is that the category is for Femals . . . and she is a female . . . and won for best overall video regardless of sex . . . well . . . .

For one thing, the Taylor Swift video wasn't nominated for video of the year.

Anything with her in it should win video of the year. I live only a few miles from her but, sadly, I will never see her.

blind?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Question . . . if Beyonce won best video of the year, how is it that she also did not win best female video of the year as well? Not saying Kanye was right, just that MTV is ######ed.

Because that happens in every award show in history. People win record of the year all the time and then don't just automatically sweep their individual categories as well. Who knows the criteria??

There's a difference between nuanced/technical categories and overall categories for sure. But if the only nuance is that the category is for Femals . . . and she is a female . . . and won for best overall video regardless of sex . . . well . . . .

For one thing, the Taylor Swift video wasn't nominated for video of the year.

Doesnt that make my point even stronger?

 

[Tom Servo]

Anything with her in it should win video of the year. I live only a few miles from her but, sadly, I will never see her.

blind?

He doesn't feel like being a stalker?

 

[The Goat]

The "Hate For Taylor Swift" thread sparked a memory of this debate.

Interesting piece on the development over the last few years:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2014/08/25/the-strange-symbiosis-of-taylor-swift-and-kanye-west/

 

[flapgreen]

I can't see why anyone likes Kanye. Such an entitled idiot

 

[rockaction]

I can't see why anyone likes Kanye. Such an entitled idiot

I loved his first three albums. The rest of them I could do without.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Kanye was right.

 

[Ghost Rider]

"he re-emerged a little over a year later with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Many believe the operatic album to be his best—and perhaps one of the best hip-hop albums of all time."

Okay, but that's like being the best-looking girl at a table full of uglies.

 

[shadyridr]

Hes gone off the deep end

 

[The Goat]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

 

[Zow]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

Somewhere, someplace, Finless is smiling at this.

 

[General Malaise]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

Oh wow! @moops getting owned here! Imagine being THIS wrong?

 

[The Goat]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

Oh wow! @moops getting owned here! Imagine being THIS wrong?

It’s more me being a douche for remembering this disagreement.

But I haven’t logged in here for the last…

*looks at watch*

…12 years or so.

So I figured I’d say hey.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

 

[The Goat]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

 

[Zow]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

Oh wow! @moops getting owned here! Imagine being THIS wrong?

In 2009?? Oh, I don't need to imagine - I was wrong about so many things. So, hard to hold this too much against Moops.

 

[The Goat]

Swift is bigger than Kanye.

Since 2008? Yes.Overall? Not even close.

Swift is only 19...Music is like sports.."what have you done for me lately"?

I would take a bet, with some bad odds even, that West will produce or record higher selling stuff over the next 10 years than Swift.

Just wanted to check in and see how this is going.

Oh wow! @moops getting owned here! Imagine being THIS wrong?

In 2009?? Oh, I don't need to imagine - I was wrong about so many things. So, hard to hold this too much against Moops.

Weren’t we all.

 

[Zow]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

He's been gone for years.

 

[The Goat]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

He's been gone for years.

Not gone as in “deceased,” right? I don’t need more guilt.

 

[Zow]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

He's been gone for years.

Not gone as in “deceased,” right? I don’t need more guilt.

Gone as in I believe he stopped posting here.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

He's been gone for years.

Not gone as in “deceased,” right? I don’t need more guilt.

Gone as in I believe he stopped posting here.

Cristo went out in a blaze of glory. He self-immolated over some political stuff.

 

[The Goat]

lofl The Goat's got an elephant's memory

More a curse than a blessing.

Hey, is Christo still here, being a total tool, and ruining conversations with pornographic pictures of 500 pound females? Just…you know…as a warning.

He's been gone for years.

Not gone as in “deceased,” right? I don’t need more guilt.

Gone as in I believe he stopped posting here.

Cristo went out in a blaze of glory. He self-immolated over some political stuff.

Okay, good.

As in, “good that he’s not deceased.”