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Not enough guns in schools, says Texas (1 Viewer)

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Texas allows guns in college classrooms under new law


By Jon Herskovitz | AUSTIN, TEXAS
(Reuters) - A new law went into effect in Texas on Monday that allows certain students to bring guns into classrooms, with supporters saying it could prevent mass shootings and critics saying the measure will endanger safety on campuses.

The so-called state "campus carry" law allows people 21 and older with a concealed handgun license to carry pistols in classrooms and buildings throughout public colleges, including the University of Texas system, one of the nation's largest with an enrollment of more than 214,000 students.

The law took effect on the 50th anniversary of one of the deadliest U.S. gun incidents on a college campus, when a student named Charles Whitman killed 16 people by firing from a perch atop the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, the state's flagship public university.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican who supports campus carry, said a gunman could already bring a firearm on to campus, and the law could prevent mass shootings because someone with a licensed concealed weapon could be ready to confront a gunman.

"What campus carry does is that it only authorizes those who go through the special training and background" to carry firearms, he was quoted as saying by his office.

University of Texas professors lobbied unsuccessfully to prevent the law, arguing that the combination of youth, firearms and college life could make for a deadly situation. University President Gregory Fenves reluctantly allowed campus carry, saying he was compelled to do so under state law.



 
| month, three professors sued to block the law, saying it could have a chilling effect on academic freedom. Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican, said the law was constitutionally sound and he would defend it.


The law allows private colleges to opt out, and most of the state's best-known private universities have done so, saying the measure runs counter to protecting student safety.

Eight states allow people to carry concealed weapons on public post-secondary campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

At the University of Texas Austin campus, third-year student Courtney Dang said the idea of campus carry was scary.

"There are so many students battling the stress of campus. Some are unstable and we don't know who has a gun," said Dang.

(Editing by Bernadette Baum)

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN10C2FS
 
I think if you have gone through several years of training and passing classes and the government knows you from time of birth and just about every place you ever been up till now...those folks should be issued hand guns at will. 

I preface this by saying that I think maybe 1/4 of the folks who have guns would meet the requirements I am talking about. You can still own a gun and have it in your house for protection but in public places I feel it should be limited to the very elite or those who have the most experience with them and have the cleanest of clean records. 

I'll use ICON as the constant here...despite his drinking issues/abilities ;)  by all counts he passes all ID backgrounds and has years and years of experience holding and firing hand guns. You bet your GD ### that I want him armed and packing when I am somewhere in a public place these days. I might not carry a gun but I know at this point there are more guns than people so odds are going to be high if we create a new system of vetting and re-vetting everyone who owns guns, we could build a society that can put an end to situations without having to wait 3-5 minutes or more for a police officer to arrive and even then might not be able to do much until further information is gathered. 

It's like the folks who preach abstinence when we know teaching protection and distributing condoms shows a reduction across the board in lowering STDs and also pregnancies/unwanted babies. Same thing here...the guns are already in circulation, I could tell you how we got here and it was partly a marketing push by companies like Colt and such to expand their sales during the 20th Century...but be that as it may they are here and we need to educate folks on gun safety rather than pretend they don't exist or a law will suddenly put a cease/muzzle on the over 300 million guns in circulation in the United States now.

 
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"Texas Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican who supports campus carry, said a gunman could already bring a firearm on to campus..."

This has always been my position too. A sign on the door only stops lawful citizens from bringing a gun in. 

 
What could go wrong?
I guess we will find out. On the one hand, now the gunman gets to walk onto campus and showcase his gun before he starts killing. On the other hand, someone should be able to kill him quicker than usual. Fortunately it's only handguns. Fortunately. :popcorn:

 
Saw a FB post on a large school sign that said the teachers were armed as a warning to all visitors.  Thing is, only a couple thousand country folk live there.  There would never be a shooting there, ever.  Doesn't really matter if everyone had a gun at school or not.  Go to a big city with the same concept, and chaos would ensue.  

 
Saw a FB post on a large school sign that said the teachers were armed as a warning to all visitors.  Thing is, only a couple thousand country folk live there.  There would never be a shooting there, ever.  Doesn't really matter if everyone had a gun at school or not.  Go to a big city with the same concept, and chaos would ensue.  
:no:  Cold Spring, MN - Pop. about 3,000. John Jason McLaughlin school shooting 9/24/2003

http://nypost.com/2014/01/25/broncos-wr-a-local-icon-since-weathering-school-shooting/

 

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