Leroy Hoard
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"You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to eat six."
- Yogi Berra
- Yogi Berra
My wife is from Germantown, Ohio, every time we go back to visit she must have a Cassanos pizza.Marion's Pizza in Ohio. Been mentioned by several of us that live or used to live in the southern Ohio area. Cassano's Pizza King is very similar, but quite as good these days. Apparently they were voted #2 in the nation independent pizza store owner by Pizza Today magazine. I don't need no stickin' award to know how much I miss this stuff. St. Louis style - crispy/chewy thin crust, unique grind on the sausage makes it unique too. Going home to Ohio for Christmas and my mom will have several of these bad boys waiting on me and the family. Killin' me just looking at it.http://www.flickr.com/photos/masonbuzz/8183539865/in/set-72157632003563132
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
chicago pizza is def thicker crust than ny, and their pan pizza, which is classic 'chicago style', is a thick crust.there are probably variants, but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.think I'll go get a slice right now....'Koya said:BTW, I see the original title is misleading regarding "thin crust"New York style, as noted, is NOT paper thin. Pepe's in CT is paper thin. Some of the "gourmet" and more traditional Euro style pies can be very thin, but NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.To that end, Chicago Style isnt "thick crust" really either. The crust itself is not that thick, its just loaded and baked like a thick pie / casserole almost. And then you have Chicago stuffed pizza, a variant (and NY has a stuffed pizza as well, not that dissimilar from Chicago stuffed, each having to layers of crust with the middle packed with stuff)
nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
Pizza hut did a whole ad campaign based on that for their cheese stuffed crust.'Leroy Hoard said:I like to start with the crust and work toward the pointy edge.'Aaron Rudnicki said:sure, it can be but that doesn't mean that's the ideal way to eat it.if the pizza is low quality, then just roll it up into a ball and shove it into your mouth. call it pizza if you like but pizza doesn't have crust on both sides, IMO. it's meant to be eaten open face.you can easily eat a pizza "on the run" without folding it like some freak. the only reason to fold it is if you are in a hurry and have no desire to prolong the enjoyable experience of eating a delicious slice of pizza.'the moops said:A slice of pizza is certainly an appropriate on the run food.'Aaron Rudnicki said:pizza isn't meant to be eaten "on the run"
fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=AnfHUP-VBcqf8QGT1IGgCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=B3fHUI7sO-TB8AHnioGoCgWhen you fold it, you are still getting the same crust to sauce, chesse, toppings ratio as not folding it.You are just eating more of it in one bite.Unless you fold it and cut your bite size in half to compensate.I prefer to not fold and enjoy the taste experience longer.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
I think that pretty much sums it up --- ny style is commonly folded by necessity.here's what curlybored has to say on the topic:http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/non-hair-discussion/110069-do-you-fold-your-pizza.html
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
No one is telling you how to eat it, just don't eat it like that.nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
Why is it so difficult to eat NY Pizza the way NYers eat it? For one, it's less difficult, and the first 1/2 of the slice you are eating non folded because the corner has nothing to fold, then as you get mid way up the slide, you get the fold. Toward the end, up to you if you then unfold for the last few bites, namely an inch or two from the crust.I Don't go telling buffalonians how to eat their wings, let us decide how we are supposed to eat our pizza.nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
That looks greatFolded Pizza: https://www.google.com/search?q=folded+pizza&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=AnfHUP-VBcqf8QGT1IGgCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=B3fHUI7sO-TB8AHnioGoCg
this looks appetizing? like I said, folded pizza is a weak version of a calzone. you don't need crust on both sides unless the sauce is a sloppy mess and the toppings are falling off it.
you can eat your pizza however you want, but stop trying to tell the rest of the world that it's the proper way to eat it. it's barbaric.Why is it so difficult to eat NY Pizza the way NYers eat it? For one, it's less difficult, and the first 1/2 of the slice you are eating non folded because the corner has nothing to fold, then as you get mid way up the slide, you get the fold. Toward the end, up to you if you then unfold for the last few bites, namely an inch or two from the crust.I Don't go telling buffalonians how to eat their wings, let us decide how we are supposed to eat our pizza.nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.'Aaron Rudnicki said:if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.'Koya said:Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
hello, exactly!New Yorkers, maybe take a breath and enjoy your slice for a couple extra minutes. It won't kill you.I prefer to not fold and enjoy the taste experience longer.
that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG
what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
If I want to enjoy my slice for a couple extra minutes, I'll order another one, thank you very much.hello, exactly!New Yorkers, maybe take a breath and enjoy your slice for a couple extra minutes. It won't kill you.I prefer to not fold and enjoy the taste experience longer.
It's still foldedthat's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
(in my preferred folding technique)ETA: Rude's dream sliceGB another sliceIf I want to enjoy my slice for a couple extra minutes, I'll order another one, thank you very much.hello, exactly!New Yorkers, maybe take a breath and enjoy your slice for a couple extra minutes. It won't kill you.I prefer to not fold and enjoy the taste experience longer.
I will bet you this is incorrect.I think over 75% of people in America fold their pizza, AR.
I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG
what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
So you unfold it after the first bite?The purpose of folding the pizza slice isn't to eat it quickly, it's to prevent the pointy end from drooping.
I think over 75% of people in America fold their pizza, AR.
I'm thinking 15%. Maybe 20%Usually about half way down the slice.So you unfold it after the first bite?The purpose of folding the pizza slice isn't to eat it quickly, it's to prevent the pointy end from drooping.
Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG
what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish
that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.
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fficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDAany idiot can edit wikipedia.chicago stuffed pizza does not have a 2nd layer of dough. it just doesn't.FYI, Ignorance confirmed (at least by wiki):
Stuffed pizzas are often even deeper than deep-dish pizzas, but otherwise, it can be hard to see the difference until it is cut into. A stuffed pizza generally has much deeper topping density than any other type of pizza. As with deep-dish pizza, a deep layer of dough forms a bowl in a high-sided pan and the toppings and cheese are added. Then, an additional layer of dough goes on top and is pressed to the sides of the crust.
I think those from non pizza making regions should stick to giving dissertations on subjects that they might know something about. Like the cold and snow.
My bad, mispelled - Edwardo's.Check out the Wiki page. If you wish, we could put this to a wager. While I'm hardly an expert, I'm pretty confident in this one (and have eaten Edwardo's myself. Much prefer Gino's. )Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG
what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish
that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.
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Same thing in google images. Where is the 2nd layer of crust?
https://www.google.com/search?q=edwardo%27s+pizza+stuffed&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDA
Any idiot can post on yelp.
This can be acceptable behavior, fwiw.Usually about half way down the slice.So you unfold it after the first bite?The purpose of folding the pizza slice isn't to eat it quickly, it's to prevent the pointy end from drooping.
Yeah but no slice really fully folds. That is pretty much what most people mean when they say folded. When did everyone become a Chriso semantic argument wannabe around here?that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
I see lots of new yorkers fully fold their slices.Giving it a slight curve isn't a fold, imo. I'm talking one side on top of the other until they touch. That's what I have a problem with.Yeah but no slice really fully folds. That is pretty much what most people mean when they say folded. When did everyone become a Chriso semantic argument wannabe around here?that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
you should check it out -- it's pretty good, but it's just the same stuffed you see everywhere else.you can google locations, but I'm pretty sure they still have one downtown, and another on north ave in oak park -- the latter actually has a lunch buffet, so you don't have to get a whole pizza.Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG
what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish
that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.
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Same thing in google images. Where is the 2nd layer of crust?
https://www.google.com/search?q=edwardo%27s+pizza+stuffed&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDA
Any idiot can post on yelp.
EDIT: found this: http://dr-phil-physics.livejournal.com/279498.html
near the bottom, they refer to Edwardo's Double-Crust Stuffed Pizza. So, I guess it is done in some places but it's far from typical. This is what I said initially.
Whoo-hoo! My preferred pizza consumption method is Rude-Approved®!I see lots of new yorkers fully fold their slices.Giving it a slight curve isn't a fold, imo. I'm talking one side on top of the other until they touch. That's what I have a problem with.Yeah but no slice really fully folds. That is pretty much what most people mean when they say folded. When did everyone become a Chriso semantic argument wannabe around here?that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
how much are we wagering on this?$1k?I will bet you this is incorrect.I think over 75% of people in America fold their pizza, AR.
I will bet you this is incorrect.I think over 75% of people in America fold their pizza, AR.

It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothingI like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothingI like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
We have been arguing about folding a slice for a few pages here. And we are casting aspersions on those who eat it differently. This is what we do afterall.I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothingI like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
Folding or not folding is much different that what types of pizza someone prefers.We have been arguing about folding a slice for a few pages here. And we are casting aspersions on those who eat it differently. This is what we do afterall.I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothingI like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
