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NY Style Pizza vs Chicago Pizza (1 Viewer)

Which is best?

  • New York Style

    Votes: 210 70.2%
  • Chicago Style

    Votes: 89 29.8%

  • Total voters
    299
Marion's Pizza in Ohio. Been mentioned by several of us that live or used to live in the southern Ohio area. Cassano's Pizza King is very similar, but quite as good these days. Apparently they were voted #2 in the nation independent pizza store owner by Pizza Today magazine. I don't need no stickin' award to know how much I miss this stuff. St. Louis style - crispy/chewy thin crust, unique grind on the sausage makes it unique too. Going home to Ohio for Christmas and my mom will have several of these bad boys waiting on me and the family. Killin' me just looking at it.http://www.flickr.com/photos/masonbuzz/8183539865/in/set-72157632003563132
My wife is from Germantown, Ohio, every time we go back to visit she must have a Cassanos pizza.
 
I have folded up pizza when it is messy and I have no other option. It doesn't taste as good that way. I think it's because the underside crust is hitting your tastebuds more than the cheese.

 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.
 
'Koya said:
BTW, I see the original title is misleading regarding "thin crust"New York style, as noted, is NOT paper thin. Pepe's in CT is paper thin. Some of the "gourmet" and more traditional Euro style pies can be very thin, but NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.To that end, Chicago Style isnt "thick crust" really either. The crust itself is not that thick, its just loaded and baked like a thick pie / casserole almost. And then you have Chicago stuffed pizza, a variant (and NY has a stuffed pizza as well, not that dissimilar from Chicago stuffed, each having to layers of crust with the middle packed with stuff)
chicago pizza is def thicker crust than ny, and their pan pizza, which is classic 'chicago style', is a thick crust.there are probably variants, but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.think I'll go get a slice right now....
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.
nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?
 
'Leroy Hoard said:
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'the moops said:
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
pizza isn't meant to be eaten "on the run"
A slice of pizza is certainly an appropriate on the run food.
sure, it can be but that doesn't mean that's the ideal way to eat it.if the pizza is low quality, then just roll it up into a ball and shove it into your mouth. call it pizza if you like but pizza doesn't have crust on both sides, IMO. it's meant to be eaten open face.you can easily eat a pizza "on the run" without folding it like some freak. the only reason to fold it is if you are in a hurry and have no desire to prolong the enjoyable experience of eating a delicious slice of pizza.
I like to start with the crust and work toward the pointy edge.
Pizza hut did a whole ad campaign based on that for their cheese stuffed crust.
 
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'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
When you fold it, you are still getting the same crust to sauce, chesse, toppings ratio as not folding it.You are just eating more of it in one bite.Unless you fold it and cut your bite size in half to compensate.I prefer to not fold and enjoy the taste experience longer.
 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.
nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?
No one is telling you how to eat it, just don't eat it like that.
 
'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.
nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?
Why is it so difficult to eat NY Pizza the way NYers eat it? For one, it's less difficult, and the first 1/2 of the slice you are eating non folded because the corner has nothing to fold, then as you get mid way up the slide, you get the fold. Toward the end, up to you if you then unfold for the last few bites, namely an inch or two from the crust.I Don't go telling buffalonians how to eat their wings, let us decide how we are supposed to eat our pizza.
 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros

 
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'Aaron Rudnicki said:
'Koya said:
Millions of New Yorkers that actually know what the hell they are talking about)
if you want a calzone, order one and stop trying to turn your slice of pizza into one on the street.
Totally different taste profile, not to mention texture.I'll be sure to have a knife and fork ready for you and your pizza when we get a slice after 'Cuse wins the national championship.
nobody is telling you to use a knife and fork.just eat your slice WITHOUT folding it in half. why is that so difficult?
Why is it so difficult to eat NY Pizza the way NYers eat it? For one, it's less difficult, and the first 1/2 of the slice you are eating non folded because the corner has nothing to fold, then as you get mid way up the slide, you get the fold. Toward the end, up to you if you then unfold for the last few bites, namely an inch or two from the crust.I Don't go telling buffalonians how to eat their wings, let us decide how we are supposed to eat our pizza.
you can eat your pizza however you want, but stop trying to tell the rest of the world that it's the proper way to eat it. it's barbaric.
 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.
 
I love it all, but these are practically like different foods. One is straight crust, light sauce, chese and thin meat. The other is almost like a stewy pie.

IMO..

NY Style is solid, High Floor/Moderate Ceiling.

Chi Style is usually a toss-up, but can be amazing. Low Floor/High Cieling.

 
The purpose of folding the pizza slice isn't to eat it quickly, it's to prevent the pointy end from drooping.

 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.
I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)

http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish

that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.

:coffee:

 
FYI, Ignorance confirmed (at least by wiki):

Stuffed pizzas are often even deeper than deep-dish pizzas, but otherwise, it can be hard to see the difference until it is cut into. A stuffed pizza generally has much deeper topping density than any other type of pizza. As with deep-dish pizza, a deep layer of dough forms a bowl in a high-sided pan and the toppings and cheese are added. Then, an additional layer of dough goes on top and is pressed to the sides of the crust.

I think those from non pizza making regions should stick to giving dissertations on subjects that they might know something about. Like the cold and snow.

 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.
I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)

http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish

that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.

:coffee:
Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.

Same thing in google images. Where is the 2nd layer of crust?

https://www.google.com/search?q=edwardo%27s+pizza+stuffed&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDA

Any idiot can post on yelp.

EDIT: found this: http://dr-phil-physics.livejournal.com/279498.html

near the bottom, they refer to Edwardo's Double-Crust Stuffed Pizza. So, I guess it is done in some places but it's far from typical. This is what I said initially.

 
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FYI, Ignorance confirmed (at least by wiki):

Stuffed pizzas are often even deeper than deep-dish pizzas, but otherwise, it can be hard to see the difference until it is cut into. A stuffed pizza generally has much deeper topping density than any other type of pizza. As with deep-dish pizza, a deep layer of dough forms a bowl in a high-sided pan and the toppings and cheese are added. Then, an additional layer of dough goes on top and is pressed to the sides of the crust.

I think those from non pizza making regions should stick to giving dissertations on subjects that they might know something about. Like the cold and snow.
any idiot can edit wikipedia.chicago stuffed pizza does not have a 2nd layer of dough. it just doesn't.

 
but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.
I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)

http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish

that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.

:coffee:
Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.

Same thing in google images. Where is the 2nd layer of crust?

https://www.google.com/search?q=edwardo%27s+pizza+stuffed&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDA

Any idiot can post on yelp.
My bad, mispelled - Edwardo's.Check out the Wiki page. If you wish, we could put this to a wager. While I'm hardly an expert, I'm pretty confident in this one (and have eaten Edwardo's myself. Much prefer Gino's. )

 
that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
Yeah but no slice really fully folds. That is pretty much what most people mean when they say folded. When did everyone become a Chriso semantic argument wannabe around here?
I see lots of new yorkers fully fold their slices.Giving it a slight curve isn't a fold, imo. I'm talking one side on top of the other until they touch. That's what I have a problem with.

 
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but chicago stuffed typically doesn't have a double crust.
Obviously, things differ from place to place, but my understanding (from my Chitown Wife) is that stuffed pizza is just that - stuffed between two layers of Crust. (I think Eduardo's does it this way), whereas straight forward Chicago Pizza ("pan pizza") has one layer with everything piled on top (Uno/Deux, Gino's etc)
this is so wrong, it's ridiculous. your wife is mistaken or ate at some place that makes their own style of stuffed pizza.there aren't two layers of crust.

this is what a stuffed pizza looks like in Chicago: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gNgHOYb9WV8/R3uhAYlG45I/AAAAAAAAAjM/CY0LA28vJXQ/s400/Giordanos.JPG

what you are talking about sounds like something they sell at Sbarros
bam! good call -- that's what she's thinking about.
I admittedly am not the expert on this one (unlike some in this thread, I'll allow for local folks to provide their understanding of local cuisine, how it's made and how it should be eaten, unlike some others here), but my wife wouldn't even know what a sbarro's is.Secondly, looks like people are talking AWFULLY sure about #### they might not really know (I admit I don't really know, at least re: Chicago Style)

http://www.yelp.com/topic/chicago-stuffed-pizza-vs-deep-dish

that yelp thread has a few folks who have "seen" the second crust (albeit very thin in the case of Giordano's) being applied, and I am almost sure that Eduardo's stuffed has two layers of crust. If this is correct, some folks are going down in flames as knowing nothin' about pizza be it Chi or NY.

:coffee:
Eduardo's returns no results in google.Edwardo's is not a place I'm very familiar with but I can see a picture on their website of a stuffed pizza that clearly has no 2nd layer of crust.

Same thing in google images. Where is the 2nd layer of crust?

https://www.google.com/search?q=edwardo%27s+pizza+stuffed&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OHzHUPPBO7Gn8QGnkIGYCg&biw=1280&bih=862&sei=OnzHUJyyKYaY8AG0yIHwDA

Any idiot can post on yelp.

EDIT: found this: http://dr-phil-physics.livejournal.com/279498.html

near the bottom, they refer to Edwardo's Double-Crust Stuffed Pizza. So, I guess it is done in some places but it's far from typical. This is what I said initially.
you should check it out -- it's pretty good, but it's just the same stuffed you see everywhere else.you can google locations, but I'm pretty sure they still have one downtown, and another on north ave in oak park -- the latter actually has a lunch buffet, so you don't have to get a whole pizza.

 
stuffed pizza is good, but I get maybe once or twice a year at most. Still don't recall seeing a 2nd crust layer on any of the ones I've ordered. It's usually all fillings.

 
that's not fully folded though. once it gets folded in half, all you see is crust.
Yeah but no slice really fully folds. That is pretty much what most people mean when they say folded. When did everyone become a Chriso semantic argument wannabe around here?
I see lots of new yorkers fully fold their slices.Giving it a slight curve isn't a fold, imo. I'm talking one side on top of the other until they touch. That's what I have a problem with.
Whoo-hoo! My preferred pizza consumption method is Rude-Approved®!
 
I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothing
I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?
We have been arguing about folding a slice for a few pages here. And we are casting aspersions on those who eat it differently. This is what we do afterall.
 
I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.
It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothing
I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?
We have been arguing about folding a slice for a few pages here. And we are casting aspersions on those who eat it differently. This is what we do afterall.
Folding or not folding is much different that what types of pizza someone prefers. ;)
 

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