NY Style Pizza vs Chicago Pizza (1 Viewer)

[Limp Ditka]

I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.

It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothing

Ok MOP

 

[Frostillicus]

It's terrible. You need to get out more.

Oh, ok.

 

[Rayderr]

 

[Leroy Hoard]

"Any ####### moron that eats Dominos in NYC deserves to choke on it"

 

[Rayderr]

True. But the point is that when Domino's introduced a NY style pizza, they made sure to mention in the ad campaign that you have to fold it, because that's how you eat a NY style pizza.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

just for reference on what started this whole debate, he clearly said to "fold it in half" if you want to eat it "properly".none of this slight curve stuff that is being talked about more recently.

 

[Rayderr]

NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

just for reference on what started this whole debate, he clearly said to "fold it in half" if you want to eat it "properly".none of this slight curve stuff that is being talked about more recently.

Bending it, folding it. Don't go all christo on us.

 

[butcher boy]

In terms of pizza authority, Dominoes is very close to the bottom of the list.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

just for reference on what started this whole debate, he clearly said to "fold it in half" if you want to eat it "properly".none of this slight curve stuff that is being talked about more recently.

Bending it, folding it. Don't go all christo on us.

you don't see the difference between a bend that still allows you to take a bite with cheese and sauce on top and crust on the bottom and a fold in half that leaves you with a pizza sandwiched between two pieces of crust?

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

 

[Nipsey]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I wonder how a pizza smoothie would taste.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I disagree.I imagine that blending a slice of pizza would turn it into some type of thick sauce just like putting a piece of fruit in there turns it into juice.

 

[Nipsey]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I disagree.I imagine that blending a slice of pizza would turn it into some type of thick sauce just like putting a piece of fruit in there turns it into juice.

But pizza isn't an ingredient, it's a finished product. So when Gallagher smashes a blueberry pie at the show and someone asks you what you're covered in, you would say it's jam?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I disagree.I imagine that blending a slice of pizza would turn it into some type of thick sauce just like putting a piece of fruit in there turns it into juice.

But pizza isn't an ingredient, it's a finished product. So when Gallagher smashes a blueberry pie at the show and someone asks you what you're covered in, you would say it's jam?

it's not a pie or jam at that point. it's just a mess.

 

[butcher boy]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I think there's the solution. Blend your pizza slices and put them in a cup. You can eat your pizza one-handed without alienating the rest of America.

 

[Amused to Death]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I think there's the solution. Blend your pizza slices and put them in a cup. You can eat your pizza one-handed without alienating the rest of America.

"Oh, this is the best pizza in a cup ever. This guy is unbelievable. He ran the old Cup 'o Pizza guy out of business. People come from all over to eat this."

 

[Nipsey]

when you fold in half, it's no longer a pizza. it's some type of sandwich or calzone, but not a pizza.

After Gallagher hits a meatball with his mallet do you still call it meatball? Of course you do. When it comes out of the oven and the cook says it's done, that's what you call it forever. You could put pizza in a blender. If someone asks you what's in the blender you say "oh, that's pizza." You wouldn't call it stew.

I disagree.I imagine that blending a slice of pizza would turn it into some type of thick sauce just like putting a piece of fruit in there turns it into juice.

But pizza isn't an ingredient, it's a finished product. So when Gallagher smashes a blueberry pie at the show and someone asks you what you're covered in, you would say it's jam?

it's not a pie or jam at that point. it's just a mess.

If there was a murder in the parking lot after the show and the cops stopped you down the street, when they asked what was all over your shirt what would you say? "Oh this? It's nothing right now, it's just a mess." No way. You would say it's blueberry pie, not only to avoid being detained and accused of murder, but because that would be the truth.Pizza folded in half is still pizza, it's not a sandwich or a calzone. If you put popsicle sticks into a bowl of fettuccine alfredo it's still fettuccine alfredo, it's not popsicles.

 

[butcher boy]

Yes, it's still pizza, it's just improper pizza.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Pizza folded in half is still pizza, it's not a sandwich or a calzone. If you put popsicle sticks into a bowl of fettuccine alfredo it's still fettuccine alfredo, it's not popsicles.

I'm not saying it IS one of those things, but they are probably a better description of what it has become than a slice of pizza.Definitions of things have a pretty wide range. Some things match up exactly with what you think of when you think of pizza. Some things less so.A slice of pizza blended up and poured into a cup would be unlikely to match anyone's mental image of a pizza slice, but technically I guess you can say that it's a slice of pizza.An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich. By the same token, a slice of pizza folded completely in half is a different (and worse) version of what a slice of pizza should be.

 

[McGarnicle]

IMO, thick vs. thin or how you eat it is a ridiculous argument since we were all raised in different part of the country and have different experiences with pizza.

For me, when I first sat down in that old wooden booth at Johnny's Pizza on Bleecker St. in NYC and first bit into that most sublime slice of thin-crust pizza, my world was transformed. My wife and I gave each other a certain look that said, "We've found it". Impossible to describe but a coal fired oven, perfect crust, sauce and cheese come together to give you the absolute pinnacle of a pizza experience. Usually I get toppings on my pie, but when I'm at Johnny's, it's always plain so I can appreciate the basic elements that make it perfect. And, that first slice, when the cheese is still liquefied, is the best of all. It's still delicious after that, but I still relish that first bite and love to stare at my wife as we take that first bite. It's just perfection.

And it's funny to me that some folks will tell you Lombardi's, Nick's, Grimaldi's or whoever makes a much better pie and you must be nuts, because it's all personal preference after all.

To me, a thick crust piled high with all kinds of stuff isn't pizza at all, but if someone is from Chicago and that's all they know, who am I to judge.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.

It's called St. Louis Style. That refers to the crust and cut not to the one big chain in town that uses provel instead of mozzarella cheese, snapperheads. Personally I like them all, it's pizza, call me crazy.

I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.

It's terrible. You need to get out more. And the ####### square thing is ridiculous. I never know how much pizza I have eaten cause the # of slices mean nothing

I have never understood this. Who cares if someone likes pizza that you don't?

He got married and took his wife's last name. HTH

 

[mon]

Always thought I liked thin crust better until I visited Chicago last summer. Chicago style is what I prefer now.

 

[Christo]

FYI, Ignorance confirmed (at least by wiki):

Stuffed pizzas are often even deeper than deep-dish pizzas, but otherwise, it can be hard to see the difference until it is cut into. A stuffed pizza generally has much deeper topping density than any other type of pizza. As with deep-dish pizza, a deep layer of dough forms a bowl in a high-sided pan and the toppings and cheese are added. Then, an additional layer of dough goes on top and is pressed to the sides of the crust.

I think those from non pizza making regions should stick to giving dissertations on subjects that they might know something about. Like the cold and snow.

wiki

 

[Nipsey]

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich.

Say what?

 

[the moops]

It's terrible. You need to get out more.

Oh, ok.

I mean, it's still pizza, and I would gladly eat that square stuff with you over a few beers. But, it just isn't good compared to a good NY style pie.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Pizza folded in half is still pizza, it's not a sandwich or a calzone. If you put popsicle sticks into a bowl of fettuccine alfredo it's still fettuccine alfredo, it's not popsicles.

I'm not saying it IS one of those things, but they are probably a better description of what it has become than a slice of pizza.Definitions of things have a pretty wide range. Some things match up exactly with what you think of when you think of pizza. Some things less so.

A slice of pizza blended up and poured into a cup would be unlikely to match anyone's mental image of a pizza slice, but technically I guess you can say that it's a slice of pizza.

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich. By the same token, a slice of pizza folded completely in half is a different (and worse) version of what a slice of pizza should be.

then why don't they call it an open faced salad?

 

[mr roboto]

Holy #### this is the absolute definition of a stupid argument.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich.

Say what?

by definition, a sandwich needs bread on both sides. PM shuke for confirmation.

 

[Nipsey]

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich.

Say what?

by definition, a sandwich needs bread on both sides. PM shuke for confirmation.

Fair enough but how does one slice of missing bread make it like a salad?

 

[Mr.Pack]

I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.

This may throw Ruud into a worse spaz than he's already being in this thread.He's rising to major doosh levels here.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Fair enough but how does one slice of missing bread make it like a salad?

well, I guess it could depend on the type of sandwich. if there's lots of lettuce and stuff, seems pretty salad-y to me.Open-face gyro sandwich: http://s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/pr71nd-Z8ceq36m0vTSSdg/l.jpg

Gyro salad: http://food.sndimg.com/img/recipes/17/03/81/large/picFNxxI3.jpg

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I like Midwest style pizza - super thin crust, super flavorful sauce, cut into squares.

This may throw Ruud into a worse spaz than he's already being in this thread.He's rising to major doosh levels here.

I love all kinds of pizza (and my favorite place cuts it into squares)Sorry I don't like being lectured by New Yorkers on the proper way to eat a slice, and told by someone in Florida that 75% of the country prefers to fold their pizza in half.

 

[Nipsey]

Fair enough but how does one slice of missing bread make it like a salad?

well, I guess it could depend on the type of sandwich. if there's lots of lettuce and stuff, seems pretty salad-y to me.Open-face gyro sandwich: http://s3-media2.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/pr71nd-Z8ceq36m0vTSSdg/l.jpg

Gyro salad: http://food.sndimg.com/img/recipes/17/03/81/large/picFNxxI3.jpg

Seems like they dumped some salad on top of the open faced sandwich in those pictures.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Seems like they dumped some salad on top of the open faced sandwich in those pictures.

aren't you expected to eat an open-faced sandwich with a fork like you would a salad? you can't exactly pick it up and eat it like you would a normal sandwich and it's not served in a way that would allow you to eat it like you might eat a burger without the top bun (or a cracker with some cheese on it).

 

[Jewell]

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich.

Say what?

by definition, a sandwich needs bread on both sides. PM shuke for confirmation.

What about the KFC Double-Down Sandwich?

 

[simey]

Open-face gyro sandwich: http://s3-media2.ak....6m0vTSSdg/l.jpg

I would fold that sandwich before taking a bite of it.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Open-face gyro sandwich: http://s3-media2.ak....6m0vTSSdg/l.jpg

I would fold that sandwich before taking a bite of it.

but that kind of defeats the purpose of ordering it open-face.that's like when a restaurant serves your burger with the burger on one bun and the veggies (lettuce, onion, tomato) on the other. they expect you to put them together and make a sandwich out of it.

I didn't think that was the assumption with an open sandwich that comes with just a single piece of bread on the bottom.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

An open-faced sandwich is more like a salad than a sandwich.

Say what?

by definition, a sandwich needs bread on both sides. PM shuke for confirmation.

What about the KFC Double-Down Sandwich?

I'll defer to shuke for the final decision but I think they are using fried chicken as a substitute for bread so it technically still counts since it's on both sides.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

this is the worst part about NY pizza. people folding it up and eating it like it's a pizza sandwich.

To each their own, but this makes for the ability to grab a slice on the run, and if it's the right slice, then the fold should work both in terms of the palate of tastes and textures all in with portable on the fly convenience.If you can't adequately fold the slice, then stick to dominoes.

pizza isn't meant to be eaten "on the run"you can eat a good slice of pizza without a fork AND without folding it in half. even when it can be folded, there's absolutely no reason to do so unless you just love to shove the food into your maw as fast as possible.

Can we get a video?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Can we get a video?

I did just eat a slice of leftover pizza for lunch today, but forgot to record it. Maybe next time.I don't think it's very exciting though. The crust was solid enough to avoid any droopage.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

You never fold it entirely in half from the get go...You crease the crust and get something akin to this:

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001721979/1439714603_ny03_pizza1_xlarge.jpeg

The first half or so is consumed with no doubled over fold

At about the halfway point you can then either continue to eat it flat, you can fold over and eat the rest like that, or even tearin half at that point and eat each half separately

Which way you go is dependent on the sturdiness of the crust and whether you are standing or sitting in my experience

 

[Nipsey]

Seems like they dumped some salad on top of the open faced sandwich in those pictures.

aren't you expected to eat an open-faced sandwich with a fork like you would a salad? you can't exactly pick it up and eat it like you would a normal sandwich and it's not served in a way that would allow you to eat it like you might eat a burger without the top bun (or a cracker with some cheese on it).

Sure but you eat a lot of things with a fork besides a salad. When I think open faced sandwich it's usually a turkey o-f-s with gravy. That's a fork and knife job. Never ate a salad with a knife.

 

[Nipsey]

The problem was that you took Koya seriously. Never take Koya seriously when it comes to discussing food. The man absolutely loves maybe one of the worst restaurants in Los Angeles if not the country.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Seems like they dumped some salad on top of the open faced sandwich in those pictures.

aren't you expected to eat an open-faced sandwich with a fork like you would a salad? you can't exactly pick it up and eat it like you would a normal sandwich and it's not served in a way that would allow you to eat it like you might eat a burger without the top bun (or a cracker with some cheese on it).

Sure but you eat a lot of things with a fork besides a salad. When I think open faced sandwich it's usually a turkey o-f-s with gravy. That's a fork and knife job. Never ate a salad with a knife.

that's fine. I just said it was more like a salad since you're using a fork to eat it. Nobody I know eats a sandwich with a fork.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

The problem was that you took Koya seriously. Never take Koya seriously when it comes to discussing food. The man absolutely loves maybe one of the worst restaurants in Los Angeles if not the country.

I guess this is the take-home message. Hopefully we've all learned a good lesson here today.

 

[Nipsey]

Seems like they dumped some salad on top of the open faced sandwich in those pictures.

aren't you expected to eat an open-faced sandwich with a fork like you would a salad? you can't exactly pick it up and eat it like you would a normal sandwich and it's not served in a way that would allow you to eat it like you might eat a burger without the top bun (or a cracker with some cheese on it).

Sure but you eat a lot of things with a fork besides a salad. When I think open faced sandwich it's usually a turkey o-f-s with gravy. That's a fork and knife job. Never ate a salad with a knife.

that's fine. I just said it was more like a salad since you're using a fork to eat it. Nobody I know eats a sandwich with a fork.

I saw a guy eating a burger last month with a fork and knife. Just sliced right into the bun and started chowing.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I saw a guy eating a burger last month with a fork and knife. Just sliced right into the bun and started chowing.

maybe this is how we will all eat sandwiches in the future.

 

[Nipsey]

I saw a guy eating a burger last month with a fork and knife. Just sliced right into the bun and started chowing.

maybe this is how we will all eat sandwiches in the future.

I told my buddy about it and he said it was so he wouldn't get his hands and face all messy. Then I asked him if he's ever eaten a burger with a fork and knife and he said yes. Then I laughed.

 

[Koya]

NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

just for reference on what started this whole debate, he clearly said to "fold it in half" if you want to eat it "properly".none of this slight curve stuff that is being talked about more recently.

A partial fold is better than no fold. Have to allow some flexibility for artistic interpretation.Perhaps "in half" is a bit strong, but those who know wtf I'm talking about know what I mean - unlike those fools holding onto the idea that eating a slice, with two hands, bit by unfolded bit is correct.

 

[Koya]

NY Pizza is not "paper thin" - it should hold up when you eat it properly, namely fold the slice in half and consume.

just for reference on what started this whole debate, he clearly said to "fold it in half" if you want to eat it "properly".none of this slight curve stuff that is being talked about more recently.

Bending it, folding it. Don't go all christo on us.

Bingo.It's a deflection method cause A Rud knows he's swimming upstream here.