GoBirds
Footballguy
Interesting, thanks for sharing this input. I don’t live in a big city like NYC so it is a bit shocking that not only did he escape the scene but made it out of the city the way he did for this long.
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NYC assassination news thread - Please no politics (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter El Floppo
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What's amazing to me isn't that he's gotten away with it (so far). It's that within a few days, they had so much footage of him from all over the city. I have trouble picturing how that happened. I assume it starts something like...
How did they know to review footage from an obscure Port Authority depot 5+ miles from where he was last seen?
- There are eyewitnesses
- Police have the eyewitnesses review footage from very nearby security cameras and they recognize him on some of those
How did they know to review footage from an obscure Port Authority depot 5+ miles from where he was last seen?
beer 30
Footballguy
AI and camera's on every corner are a helluva thing. One thing the Chinese do well is surveil their people. I don't think it's a stretch that a city like NYC is similar, they just don't use the information the way the Chinese do...yet.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Once they establish them on camera they “simply” walk it backwards. Until they lose him again.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
I can only imagine the other things they ultimately found in this search unrelated to this case. You have to imagine dumping a weapon used in a crime are probably pretty common in these lakes, as well as the Hudson and East rivers.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Seems promising...
El Floppo
Footballguy
Joe public to the rescue!
Will be interesting to see if it's the guy.
(And if it's Messi)
mr. furley
Footballguy
London, too. and i'm sure many other big cities around the world have amazing facial recognition technologies that can pull camera data extremely fast.
Police Use of Face Recognition Is Sweeping the UK
Face recognition technology has been controversial for years. Cops in the UK are drastically increasing the amount they use it.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I'm skeptical. This guy did so many things right and seems like some kind of pro. Why on earth would he still have the gun?
Leave the gun, take the cannoli. It has to be the first thing we all learn about being a criminal!
El Floppo
Footballguy
I think they started with the shooting video, identified specific items like backpack, hoodie, etc and worked their way from there. I don't know about how much eyewitnesses would help. But maybe somebody called in about the hostel. And the guy took a cab to the last bus station... That's easy to chase down.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Great if they got him, but it's a stretch that after all the criming he would get tripped up for looking suspicious in a McDonalds in Altoona. It does compute however, that he might be slowly creeping slowly away, and maybe Altoona is a plausible locale he might be at a week later, depending on measures taaken.
mr. furley
Footballguy
super assassin, evading police for days, turns up in a McDonald's.... with the murder weapon on his hip? open-carry for everyone to see?
man, reddit is going to implode if this turns out to be the guy and he was this openly clumsy
The Gator
Footballguy
Mcgriddles have that pull on some people
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
Doesn't seem that he was open carrying but I also doubt this would happen.
Once at the police station, the sources said, officers discovered the man had a gun similar to the one used in Thompson's killing
Pretty sure they would search him before placing him in a police vehicle. If they found the gun at the police station it could have been in a bag and they needed to get a search warrant first.
3C's
Footballguy
Maybe he heard the McRib was back?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Police and experts... Granted, not as qualified as reddit experts... Have been saying it doesn't seem like a pro due to too many sloppy moves.
Unless he went 4d chess with a mask behind a mask like Messi above, it seems like he'll ultimately get caught from those pictures of him.
But yeah, still holding onto the gun seems goofily dumb for somebody who didn't approach this thing goofily dumb.
El Floppo
Footballguy
I'm hearing the guy had a wallet full of monopoly money too. And a Starbucks gift card.Doesn't seem that he was open carrying but I also doubt this would happen.
Once at the police station, the sources said, officers discovered the man had a gun similar to the one used in Thompson's killing
Pretty sure they would search him before placing him in a police vehicle. If they found the gun at the police station it could have been in a bag and they needed to get a search warrant first.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
London, too. and i'm sure many other big cities around the world have amazing facial recognition technologies that can pull camera data extremely fast.
Police Use of Face Recognition Is Sweeping the UK
Face recognition technology has been controversial for years. Cops in the UK are drastically increasing the amount they use it.www.wired.com
I posted a link to this podcast earlier regarding an eye in the sky surveillance system that has been extremely effective, for example in terrorism attacks or rooting out gang hideouts and such. Not useable in the US due to our pesky 4th amendment, although Dayton, Ohio tried it for a while before getting sued. https://radiolab.org/podcast/eye-sky-2306
The beauty of this rather simple tech is they can not only follow the perps forward in time to find them, but can also go back in time to see where they came from, who they associated with, where those people went and who they associated with, etc.
3C's
Footballguy
I see now why they thought he looked suspicious. You just don't see those sorts in Altoona.I'm hearing the guy had a wallet full of monopoly money too. And a Starbucks gift card.Doesn't seem that he was open carrying but I also doubt this would happen.
Once at the police station, the sources said, officers discovered the man had a gun similar to the one used in Thompson's killing
Pretty sure they would search him before placing him in a police vehicle. If they found the gun at the police station it could have been in a bag and they needed to get a search warrant first.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Laugh emoji
mr. furley
Footballguy
listened to that Radiolab episode a while back. fascinating and frightening stuff.London, too. and i'm sure many other big cities around the world have amazing facial recognition technologies that can pull camera data extremely fast.
Police Use of Face Recognition Is Sweeping the UK
Face recognition technology has been controversial for years. Cops in the UK are drastically increasing the amount they use it.
I posted a link to this podcast earlier regarding an eye in the sky surveillance system that has been extremely effective, for example in terrorism attacks or rooting out gang hideouts and such. Not useable in the US due to our pesky 4th amendment, although Dayton, Ohio tried it for a while before getting sued. https://radiolab.org/podcast/eye-sky-2306
The beauty of this rather simple tech is they can not only follow the perps forward in time to find them, but can also go back in time to see where they came from, who they associated with, where those people went and who they associated with, etc.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Seems very promising now.
per CNN:
A man being questioned in connection with the fatal shooting nearly a week ago of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO in New York City was found Monday in Pennsylvania with a gun with a suppressor like the one used in the homicide, law enforcement officials briefed on the situation tell CNN.
The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he looked like the man in New York Police Department photos and called police, the sources said. He had fake IDs, including one NYPD believes was used by the killing suspect in New York, they said.
Altoona police responded to the call, picked up the man and searched him, the sources said. The man also had some documents investigators want to examine as potentially relating to motive, though further details on them were not clear.
Altoona police are waiting for NYPD detectives, who are en route.
per CNN:
A man being questioned in connection with the fatal shooting nearly a week ago of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO in New York City was found Monday in Pennsylvania with a gun with a suppressor like the one used in the homicide, law enforcement officials briefed on the situation tell CNN.
The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he looked like the man in New York Police Department photos and called police, the sources said. He had fake IDs, including one NYPD believes was used by the killing suspect in New York, they said.
Altoona police responded to the call, picked up the man and searched him, the sources said. The man also had some documents investigators want to examine as potentially relating to motive, though further details on them were not clear.
Altoona police are waiting for NYPD detectives, who are en route.
Oracle
Footballguy
I'm hearing the guy had a wallet full of monopoly money too. And a Starbucks gift card.Doesn't seem that he was open carrying but I also doubt this would happen.
Once at the police station, the sources said, officers discovered the man had a gun similar to the one used in Thompson's killing
Pretty sure they would search him before placing him in a police vehicle. If they found the gun at the police station it could have been in a bag and they needed to get a search warrant first.
Capella
Footballguy
If he still has that piece on him he immediately goes from one of the smartest criminals ever to one of the dumbest.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
There's a simple explanation why the firearm wasn't ditched. He planned on using it again.
beer 30
Footballguy
Honestly, never got the draw for that sammich.
He was impressing me for a bit with the skillz but if he gets popped over a Big Mac still carrying the murder weapon, crazy stupid dumb.
Scoresman
Footballguy
At McDonald's?
Chemical X
Footballguy
what is the difference between a manifesto and a diatribe?
the moops
Footballguy
There is a very plausible world in which he is in no way some kinda pro and just got lucky.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
He’s an Ivy Leaguer who likes the Unabomber:
nypost.com
Exclusive | Luigi Mangione, suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killing, was an ivy league grad with a grudge against the healthcare industry
The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a three-page …
nypost.com
El Floppo
Footballguy
Latest cnn update....
A man is being questioned in the fatal shooting nearly a week ago of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO in New York City after he was found Monday in Pennsylvania with a gun and a suppressor like those used in the homicide, law enforcement officials briefed on the situation tell CNN.
He has been arrested on charges tied to the gun, a law enforcement official said. The weapon is a ghost gun – an untraceable, homemade weapon – another law enforcement source told CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24
The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he resembled the man in New York Police Department photos and called police, the officials said. He also had fake IDs, including one the NYPD believes was used by the suspect in New York, they said.
Police in Altoona – about 280 miles from the Midtown Manhattan hotel where UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was fatally shot – responded to the call, picked up the man and searched him, the sources said.
The man also had a two-page document railing against the health care industry and suggesting violence is the answer, a police official who has seen the document told CNN.
Altoona police are waiting for NYPD detectives, who are en route.
A man is being questioned in the fatal shooting nearly a week ago of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO in New York City after he was found Monday in Pennsylvania with a gun and a suppressor like those used in the homicide, law enforcement officials briefed on the situation tell CNN.
He has been arrested on charges tied to the gun, a law enforcement official said. The weapon is a ghost gun – an untraceable, homemade weapon – another law enforcement source told CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24
The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he resembled the man in New York Police Department photos and called police, the officials said. He also had fake IDs, including one the NYPD believes was used by the suspect in New York, they said.
Police in Altoona – about 280 miles from the Midtown Manhattan hotel where UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was fatally shot – responded to the call, picked up the man and searched him, the sources said.
The man also had a two-page document railing against the health care industry and suggesting violence is the answer, a police official who has seen the document told CNN.
Altoona police are waiting for NYPD detectives, who are en route.
I always picture a diatribe as having a whinier tone
3C's
Footballguy
As is usual, the comments there are full of "not very smart people" and conspiracy theorists.He’s an Ivy Leaguer who likes the Unabomber:
Exclusive | Luigi Mangione, suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killing, was an ivy league grad with a grudge against the healthcare industry
The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a three-page …
El Floppo
Footballguy
oh...lol... I thought you said "here". would work too.As is usual, the comments there are full of "not very smart people" and conspiracy theorists.He’s an Ivy Leaguer who likes the Unabomber:
Exclusive | Luigi Mangione, suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson killing, was an ivy league grad with a grudge against the healthcare industry
The suspect nabbed in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson is an anti-capitalist Ivy League grad who liked online quotes from “Unabomber’’ Ted Kaczynski — and seethed in a three-page …
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
So let me get this straight...
1st Starbucks and then McDonald's?
Not exactly inconspicuous places where nobody will see you.
1st Starbucks and then McDonald's?
Not exactly inconspicuous places where nobody will see you.
mr. furley
Footballguy
random person shoots another random person
doesn't exactly take a professional to accomplish all that.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Ahem.
beer 30
Footballguy
15-20 years my guess
Please let's keep to the original post.
A man was murdered. It looks like another person is going to prison for a long time wrecking his life and those around him. Or possibly the death penalty.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
New York doesn't have the death penalty.
