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from the news blogger:

Broncos RB Henry May Need To Take Pay Cut To Stay In Denver

Mike Klis, Denver Post - [Full Article]

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7939169

Denver Broncos RB Travis Henry's days in Denver may be over. Klis speculates that "it's clear Henry will return in 2008 only if he accepts a substantial pay cut from the $6.7 million he's tentatively scheduled to make." If the Broncos and Henry can't agree on a new deal, the team will go out and get another lead, power-type back. Selvin Young is ideal for 10 to 15 carries a game, but HC Mike Shanahan said he's not a 20-to-25 carry back.

 
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That kind of paycut is going to hurt. Henry has 8 mouths to feed. 16 if you count the mothers.

 
That kind of paycut is going to hurt. Henry has 8 mouths to feed. 16 if you count the mothers.
Have you notified him yet? I am pretty sure he has no idea what you are talking about.Oh, and they won't waste big $ on Turner for the same reason HOU won't. They can get the same thing in the draft for a lot less $.
 
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Oh, and they won't waste big $ on Turner for the same reason HOU won't. They can get the same thing in the draft for a lot less $.
It generally hasn't been Shanahan's m.o. to go the rookie route. He hit it big with Portis, but it's not like Clinton was handed the reigns right off the bat, and Tatum Bell didn't work out.Shanahan can't afford to have another bad season - Turner may not be the guy they go after, but I don't see the team banking on a rookie.
 
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What do you think Parcells would want for Ricky?
Considering the whole drug test fiasco surrounding Henry this year I would think that Denver wouldn't want to deal with another RB who is only one strike away from being suspended under the drug policy.
 
What do you think Parcells would want for Ricky?
Considering the whole drug test fiasco surrounding Henry this year I would think that Denver wouldn't want to deal with another RB who is only one strike away from being suspended under the drug policy.
This would be one way to see it.But they could also think of themselves as experienced and capable of handling the distraction, and consider Ricky a talent with enough potential to plug in. And if it didn't work out Plan B is Slevin/Andre Hall
 
Considering that Denver has scored a total of 22 rushing TDs in the past two years, I don't think the off-season Denver thread will be as exciting this year. It's a sad day for Denver when the situation in Houston has just as much fantasy relevance.

 
Considering that Denver has scored a total of 22 rushing TDs in the past two years, I don't think the off-season Denver thread will be as exciting this year. It's a sad day for Denver when the situation in Houston has just as much fantasy relevance.
Lepsis has retired now.. the Denver Oline is not what it used to be.
 
zamboni said:
FavreCo said:
Oh, and they won't waste big $ on Turner for the same reason HOU won't. They can get the same thing in the draft for a lot less $.
It generally hasn't been Shanahan's m.o. to go the rookie route. He hit it big with Portis, but it's not like Clinton was handed the reigns right off the bat, and Tatum Bell didn't work out.Shanahan can't afford to have another bad season - Turner may not be the guy they go after, but I don't see the team banking on a rookie.
With the way the Chargers have been embarrassing the Broncos I would not be surprised to see them sign Turner out of spite.
 
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zamboni said:
FavreCo said:
Oh, and they won't waste big $ on Turner for the same reason HOU won't. They can get the same thing in the draft for a lot less $.
It generally hasn't been Shanahan's m.o. to go the rookie route. He hit it big with Portis, but it's not like Clinton was handed the reigns right off the bat, and Tatum Bell didn't work out.Shanahan can't afford to have another bad season - Turner may not be the guy they go after, but I don't see the team banking on a rookie.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. I know Shanny lies and all, but in the article in another thread he blamed the season on himself for coaching and poor drafting the last few years. He said they been spending too much money on high priced free agents who nobody else wants to pay and have holes in their game. Turner while good in a back up role has had injury problems while only playing part time, this may be a concern for some teams, but not all I'm sure.
 
The Broncos reportedly hope to keep Travis Henry in 2008, and use him as a bruising complement to Selvin Young.

Henry, a cap casualty candidate this offseason, says he wants to "make it right" with the Broncos. "I want to be a Bronco. I don't want to be anywhere else," he said. Henry regrets letting a promising start to 2007 (he led the NFL in rushing through one month) become a mess due to injuries and an alleged positive drug test. He'll likely need to take a pay cut to stay. Jan. 29 - 9:33 am et

Source: Denver Post

 
Aww yes the Shawn Kemp of the NFL. Heaven help us all if Henry is cut and goes yet to another new city. Dads, hide your daughters!!

I don't see Denver going the FA route to pick up a Turner or whoever else is out there. Turner most likely would end up going to Chicago, which is where I think he is from or has ties too. I think Denver will go with a 3rd/4th rounder at RB and hope that the player can compete for PT with Young, but not Henry.

 
Oh, and they won't waste big $ on Turner for the same reason HOU won't. They can get the same thing in the draft for a lot less $.
It generally hasn't been Shanahan's m.o. to go the rookie route. He hit it big with Portis, but it's not like Clinton was handed the reigns right off the bat, and Tatum Bell didn't work out.Shanahan can't afford to have another bad season - Turner may not be the guy they go after, but I don't see the team banking on a rookie.
Disagreed. It generally *HAS* been Shanahan's M.O. to go the rookie route. Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns, and Tatum Bell have all rushed for 1,000 yards in Denver. Five of the six were Denver draft picks (Droughns was drafted and cut by Detroit). If you want to start throwing out the names of RBs with 100+ yard games, you add Selvin Young, Mike Bell, Andre Hall, and Quentin Griffin to the list- all homegrown products. And let's not forget the Maurice Clarett experience. Droughns and Henry have been the exception, not the rule.
Considering that Denver has scored a total of 22 rushing TDs in the past two years, I don't think the off-season Denver thread will be as exciting this year. It's a sad day for Denver when the situation in Houston has just as much fantasy relevance.
Lepsis has retired now.. the Denver Oline is not what it used to be.
Denver's Oline hasn't been what it used to be for a long time. Outside of a brief revival in 2005 when Anderson and Bell were splitting time, it hasn't been a dominating unit since around 2000 or so. Lepsis missed significant time in 2006 and the rushing game survived. Nalen and Hamilton combined to miss a huge chunk of the season and Denver still finished 5th in yards per carry. Even without Lepsis (which is a huge loss, since Lepsis was one of the best LTs in the league), I think it would be difficult for Denver's line to not be improved next year, unless Nalen and Hamilton BOTH follow Lepsis' lead and retire.
 
In total yards the Bronco' have been ranked:

2007 - 9th

2006 -8th

2005 -2nd

2004 - 4th

2003 - 2nd

2002 - 5th

2001 - 10th

2000- 3rd

I think that is petty amazing that they have been a top 10 rushing team for the entire 21st century. I don't see how 2005 was a resurgence when it was the 4th top 5 rushing performace in a row.

That being said the rushing offense has been declining the past 2 seasons and their key Olinemen are now old. Nalen will be 37 when the season starts. You really think he has anything left?

I think the decline continues and the Broncos rushing offense falls out of the top 10 for the 1st time since 1999.

 
In total yards the Bronco' have been ranked:2007 - 9th2006 -8th2005 -2nd2004 - 4th2003 - 2nd2002 - 5th2001 - 10th2000- 3rdI think that is petty amazing that they have been a top 10 rushing team for the entire 21st century. I don't see how 2005 was a resurgence when it was the 4th top 5 rushing performace in a row.That being said the rushing offense has been declining the past 2 seasons and their key Olinemen are now old. Nalen will be 37 when the season starts. You really think he has anything left? I think the decline continues and the Broncos rushing offense falls out of the top 10 for the 1st time since 1999.
The "decline" is superficial only. Denver ranked 28th in the league in points allowed this season, marking the first time they've finished out of the top 10 since 2002. They were getting blown out more than they have in a long time, and so they were forced to abandon the run. They finished the year with 429 rushing attempts, by far the lowest total of Shanahan's tenure (the second lowest total was 457 in 2002, and Denver was over 500 attempts in each season 2003-2005).In terms of yards per attempt, Denver has finished 5th, 9th, 4th, 8th, 4th, 3rd. I see no decline there at all, just a little bit of random variation.Also, 2005 was a resurgence in the offensive line play. Looking at year-end ranks wouldn't show that- the way to see it is either by watching the line play that season (which was stellar), by looking at advanced metrics like DVOA or success rate, or by looking at the raw numbers compared to the best rushing seasons in Denver history. The three most impressive rushing seasons of the Shanahan era are 1998 (525/2468/26, 4.7 ypa), 2003 (543/2629/20, 4.8 ypa), and 2005 (542/2539/25, 4.7 ypa). In 1998, Denver got a 2,000 yard season out of Terrell Davis. In 2003, Clinton Portis was busy earning the richest RB contract in the league. In 2005, on the other hand, Denver's production came at the hands of Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell, two guys who were both dumped within 2 years. The line that season was PHENOMENAL. Lepsis, Nalen, and Hamilton all might have been the very best player at their position in the entire NFL that year.Anyway, Denver's key linemen may be getting old, but the system is still in place, and the running game will still be successful. Denver was successful running this year without Hamilton and Nalen. It was successful running last year without Lepsis. Its next generation of linemen all have another year under their belts, more time to build chemistry and improve their technique. People have been looking at the numbers and predicting the demise of the Denver running game for years now (first when Gibbs retired around 2000, then again after the injury-wrecked 2001 season, then again when Portis was traded, and again when Gibbs left his consultant role for the Falcons in 2004 or so, and again every year after that on the basis of the linemen getting older and this idea that every year we're one year further removed from Alex Gibbs' influence). I suppose if everyone keeps predicting the demise of Denver's running game every year, sooner or later they're finally going to get it right... but I personally believe they're going to have a lot more years of getting it wrong in the meantime.
 

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