Drew Brees' statistics:2002 - 3,284 passing yards, 17 TD's, 16 INT's, 76.9 passer ratingJust a gut feeling, or can you point to tangible evidence that would lead to a demise?Everyone's focusing on Minnesota in this thread, but I think the more intriguing story will be San Diego. I think that Brees' deal with the debbil will expire before training camp, and the entire Charger offense will come crashing back down to Earth. I envision a bottom-third of the league finish.
You could look at it like that..... but you could also look at it as a guy who just needed a little time to develop into a NFL QB as opposed to a college one. Lets not forget that this team more than likely will be adding a top notch playmaker at WR via the draft in a few weeks. They also have all young players on the O side of the ball for the most part. I too think Brees palyed over his head last year, but still things look rather rosey from here untill next season at least.Drew Brees' statistics:2002 - 3,284 passing yards, 17 TD's, 16 INT's, 76.9 passer ratingJust a gut feeling, or can you point to tangible evidence that would lead to a demise?Everyone's focusing on Minnesota in this thread, but I think the more intriguing story will be San Diego. I think that Brees' deal with the debbil will expire before training camp, and the entire Charger offense will come crashing back down to Earth. I envision a bottom-third of the league finish.
2003 - 2,108 passing yards, 11 TD's, 15 INT's, 67.5 passer rating
2004 - 3,159 passing yards, 27 TD's, 7 INT's, 104.8 passer rating
Brees played out of his mind when his job (and probably career) was on the line, and now has gotten a fat contract out of it. His production can only go down in 2005 - I predict sub-3,000 passing yards and a passer rating of around 80, which would be around his career average so far. I also look for his TD/INT ratio to come back down to earth, which would be less than 20 TDs and 10+ INTs in 2005.
The Chargers were 20th in the NFL in scoring in 2002 at 20.8 points/game, 16th in in 2003 at 19.6 points/game, and magically increased to 3rd in scoring at 27.9 points/game in 2004. Again, the dramatic increase in scoring in 2004 I would say is an aberration, and the Chargers will return to their average of about 20 points per game in 2005.
Actually, SD was not a Top 10 team based on yardage--they ranked 11th.In the past, Marty ball has produced 3 teams that ranked Top 10 in yardage and 8 teams that ranked Top 10 in points scored out of 19 seasons he's coached.It's hard to pick from those teams - I had to look through the list twice to come up with San Diego. Someone already mentioned that they will have an extremely tough schedule and I'll add that almost all of their tough games are on the road.
I'm always skeptical about a guy like Brees who had such a shocking season.
And don't forget that Marty is still there and had never been an offensive juggernaut coach.
In 2004, Denver's passing attack ranked 6th in yards and 9th in TDs. For a run first team that would rather run in the red zone than pass, those are pretty darn good passing statistics. Denver's passing game is just fine, they just tend to play a ball control game.I'm thinking either GB or Denver. GB, because of the many reasons supplied by others above, and Denver because their offense isn't all that exciting. I'm not entirely sold on Bell, yet. They produce RBs like machines behind that line, but I dunno... their passing game needs to improve.
Hmmm...I got those stats from NFL.com under total offense. I wonder where there is a glitch?Actually, SD was not a Top 10 team based on yardage--they ranked 11th.In the past, Marty ball has produced 3 teams that ranked Top 10 in yardage and 8 teams that ranked Top 10 in points scored out of 19 seasons he's coached.It's hard to pick from those teams - I had to look through the list twice to come up with San Diego. Someone already mentioned that they will have an extremely tough schedule and I'll add that almost all of their tough games are on the road.
I'm always skeptical about a guy like Brees who had such a shocking season.
And don't forget that Marty is still there and had never been an offensive juggernaut coach.
I'm coming in late here, but it might have to do with how the two sources use yards lost from sacks.Hmmm...I got those stats from NFL.com under total offense. I wonder where there is a glitch?Actually, SD was not a Top 10 team based on yardage--they ranked 11th.In the past, Marty ball has produced 3 teams that ranked Top 10 in yardage and 8 teams that ranked Top 10 in points scored out of 19 seasons he's coached.It's hard to pick from those teams - I had to look through the list twice to come up with San Diego. Someone already mentioned that they will have an extremely tough schedule and I'll add that almost all of their tough games are on the road.
I'm always skeptical about a guy like Brees who had such a shocking season.
And don't forget that Marty is still there and had never been an offensive juggernaut coach.
Thx...that was bothering me.I'm coming in late here, but it might have to do with how the two sources use yards lost from sacks.Hmmm...I got those stats from NFL.com under total offense. I wonder where there is a glitch?Actually, SD was not a Top 10 team based on yardage--they ranked 11th.In the past, Marty ball has produced 3 teams that ranked Top 10 in yardage and 8 teams that ranked Top 10 in points scored out of 19 seasons he's coached.It's hard to pick from those teams - I had to look through the list twice to come up with San Diego. Someone already mentioned that they will have an extremely tough schedule and I'll add that almost all of their tough games are on the road.
I'm always skeptical about a guy like Brees who had such a shocking season.
And don't forget that Marty is still there and had never been an offensive juggernaut coach.
Well, according to profootballreference, here were the team leaders in yardage . . .Kansas City Chiefs 4633/2289 = 6922 (1)Hmmm...I got those stats from NFL.com under total offense. I wonder where there is a glitch?Actually, SD was not a Top 10 team based on yardage--they ranked 11th.In the past, Marty ball has produced 3 teams that ranked Top 10 in yardage and 8 teams that ranked Top 10 in points scored out of 19 seasons he's coached.It's hard to pick from those teams - I had to look through the list twice to come up with San Diego. Someone already mentioned that they will have an extremely tough schedule and I'll add that almost all of their tough games are on the road.
I'm always skeptical about a guy like Brees who had such a shocking season.
And don't forget that Marty is still there and had never been an offensive juggernaut coach.
I'm going with the Vikings:
a) Randy Moss is Gone
b) Culpepper less than impressive in games without Moss in '04
c) Mike Tice is a moron and the Vikings appear to be deteriorating as a team
d) New Ownership
e) Randy Moss is Gone
Tank = Significant Drop in Total Offense
No, it's a complete wast of time and my main goal is to waste board space and bring attention to myself. You may return to the "Cold Pizza vs. Mike and Mike Thread" now.Is there a point to bumping these other than trying to bring attention to yourself? Is there any new discussion to be had about these particular threads?![]()
Look at the date.If Favre retires GB wont be there.
If McNair goes Tennessee wont be there.
San Diego wont be there.
I dont like the odds for the Vikings.
If Favre retires GB wont be there.
If McNair goes Tennessee wont be there.
San Diego wont be there.
I dont like the odds for the Vikings.
Good question...anybody want to run over to NFL.com and get us some stats...I'm a little busy right now...on another continent waiting to get on a plane.So Lhucks what was the Final Breakdown? How many of those Top 10 teams from 04 repeated in 05? Which had the most significant drops?