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Offensive Trends in 2006 (1 Viewer)

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LINKED article focuses on the advantages of the 1 RB/2 WR/2 TE set, specifically in Dallas. According to the article, the big winner in Dallas could be Julius Jones.

Will this set be seen increasingly throughout the league until defenses adapt, or is this isolated to only a few teams? If it becomes more widespread, how does this affect the value of TE and when to draft them in redraft leagues? At RB and WR, is it overanalyzing to add the potential impact of the offensive set since it is already inherently factored into the yearly projections for each player?

I guess the real question is how much do you look at offensive sets for boosting a second or third tier player above his peers? I'll admit I don't look too much at sets, more just at overall philosophy as in which teams tend to emphasize the run in the red zone vs. the pass, etc.

What do you think? And what teams other than KC and DAL figure to use this set as their primary offensive alignment?

 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.

 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.
Perhaps, but I can think of many more teams who run a 3 WR set or a 2 RB/2 WR set than a 2 TE set, although it might be as you say simply a matter of aquiring the proper personnel. I guess I'm missing the blatantly obvious, or maybe it's just time for me to call it a night.
 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.
Perhaps, but I can think of many more teams who run a 3 WR set or a 2 RB/2 WR set than a 2 TE set, although it might be as you say simply a matter of aquiring the proper personnel. I guess I'm missing the blatantly obvious, or maybe it's just time for me to call it a night.
When I say blatantly obvious, I mean to NFL coaches. Sorry for the confusion.
 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.
Perhaps, but I can think of many more teams who run a 3 WR set or a 2 RB/2 WR set than a 2 TE set, although it might be as you say simply a matter of aquiring the proper personnel. I guess I'm missing the blatantly obvious, or maybe it's just time for me to call it a night.
I was going to post this anyway, but it's a really big formation in the AFC West. Denver, San Diego, and Kansas City all just abuse opposing defenses with this set- in fact, it's usually one of the keys to the running game.This is why, after Putzier left, Denver spent a 2nd-rounder on a TE. It's also why KC spent a second rounder on Kris Wilson while Gonzo was still playing out of his mind.

Of the three, KC is the best at the 2-TE sets, using it to power one of the best offenses in the league with sub-standard WRs. San Diego is pretty new to it, but it does a lot to keep defenses from keying too much on Tomlinson (he has extra blockers on run plays, but also two extra threats in the passing game to keep teams from stacking the box as much as they might against an I formation). Denver's the most interesting case study. They change their offensive gameplan more from week to week than any other team in the league... but the 2-TE is a staple that they always come back to, and they do more interesting things with it than any team I've ever seen. I remember a game two or three years ago (I think it was against Detroit early in Plummer's first season in town) where Denver was short on runningbacks (Portis was banged up), and so they lined Anderson (their FB) at Tailback in 2-TE 1-RB sets and then motioned one of the TEs back into the backfield and have them play fullback. They'd change from play to play which TE was motioned back, too. The defense was just going nuts trying to figure out what was going on, if the TE was motioned back to act as a lead blocker or if he was going to catch passes in the flat like a fullback or if he was going to be sent down the middle of the field like a TE.

I think that the AFC West is easily the most interesting division in the league to follow. Lots of quality teams, and easily the best RBs and TEs in the league. The things they do with their RBs and TEs (and, likewise, with their LBs and Safeties to negate the other team's RBs and TEs) are always pretty cutting edge, and make for some very impressive results. I mean, Denver, KC, and SD ranked #2, #4, and #9 in rushing offense... and despite playing against each other twice, ranked #2, #7, and #1 against the run, respectively. To achieve those rankings despite playing 4 games against each other, they had to be DOMINANT against the rest of the league. There's a lot of stuff out there that other teams could learn about both establishing and stopping the run, and the TE-friendly offenses also don't need any explanation.

One big change that I think you'll see a lot more of if teams really do trend more and more to 2-TE sets... Denver last year started running a "Big Nickle" defense, which was a nickle defense, but instead of a 3rd CB, they brought in a 3rd Safety with strong coverage skills. This helped negate the extra blocking a second TE offered over a 3rd WR, as well as strengthening coverage in the middle of the field. Normally they just put Bailey 1-on-1 with the stud TE (Gates or Gonzo), which worked phenominally, but when Bailey was injured they went "Big Nickle" instead. It worked well enough that I expect more teams will start picking up on it, since there aren't many Champ Baileys floating around out there.

 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.
Perhaps, but I can think of many more teams who run a 3 WR set or a 2 RB/2 WR set than a 2 TE set, although it might be as you say simply a matter of aquiring the proper personnel. I guess I'm missing the blatantly obvious, or maybe it's just time for me to call it a night.
When I say blatantly obvious, I mean to NFL coaches. Sorry for the confusion.
I don't think NFL coaches were Kirwan's target audience.I never mind when a writer goes more in-depth on a topic than is strictly necessary, even a topic that I already understand. It never hurts to hear more on a subject, and I frequently hear things I hadn't thought of before. :)

 
Just like Pat Kirwan to address the blatantly obvoius with a miniture novel.

Every coach in the NFL knows this, its just a matter of acquring the TEs and OL to make it work.
Perhaps, but I can think of many more teams who run a 3 WR set or a 2 RB/2 WR set than a 2 TE set, although it might be as you say simply a matter of aquiring the proper personnel. I guess I'm missing the blatantly obvious, or maybe it's just time for me to call it a night.
When I say blatantly obvious, I mean to NFL coaches. Sorry for the confusion.
I don't think NFL coaches were Kirwan's target audience.I never mind when a writer goes more in-depth on a topic than is strictly necessary, even a topic that I already understand. It never hurts to hear more on a subject, and I frequently hear things I hadn't thought of before. :)
Agreed to an extent, but this just struck me as odd, given the prevalence of the formation throughout the NFL over the past ten years.
 
FWIW, the Eagles have talked about running more 2 TE sets with the pickup of Schobel to go along with LJ Smith.

The Jags have talked about running more 2 TE set with Marcedes Lewis and Kyle Brady.

In each of those cases, you have the blocking TE and the pass-receiving TE.

 
I don't think it's a coincidence that this formation is gaining popularity while at the same time the athleticism of the TE position is starting to skyrocket. The TE position is turning into a jack of all trades as these guys are turning into packages with incredible size, speed and power that allows them to be effective in both the trenches and in the passing game. They present major matchup problems for opposing defenses. Guys like Ben Watson can lineup at TE, FB and even wideout which means the offense has the ability to keep the defense off-balance. Teams are always looking for matchup advantages they can attack and the TE is starting to really be a big part of that philosophy.

 
One big change that I think you'll see a lot more of if teams really do trend more and more to 2-TE sets... Denver last year started running a "Big Nickle" defense, which was a nickle defense, but instead of a 3rd CB, they brought in a 3rd Safety with strong coverage skills. This helped negate the extra blocking a second TE offered over a 3rd WR, as well as strengthening coverage in the middle of the field. Normally they just put Bailey 1-on-1 with the stud TE (Gates or Gonzo), which worked phenominally, but when Bailey was injured they went "Big Nickle" instead. It worked well enough that I expect more teams will start picking up on it, since there aren't many Champ Baileys floating around out there.
NE ran a "big nickel" the year theymissed the playoffs at 9-7 during their superbowl run when they had both Milloy and Victor Green.
 
LINKED article focuses on the advantages of the 1 RB/2 WR/2 TE set, specifically in Dallas. According to the article, the big winner in Dallas could be Julius Jones.

Will this set be seen increasingly throughout the league until defenses adapt, or is this isolated to only a few teams? If it becomes more widespread, how does this affect the value of TE and when to draft them in redraft leagues? At RB and WR, is it overanalyzing to add the potential impact of the offensive set since it is already inherently factored into the yearly projections for each player?

I guess the real question is how much do you look at offensive sets for boosting a second or third tier player above his peers? I'll admit I don't look too much at sets, more just at overall philosophy as in which teams tend to emphasize the run in the red zone vs. the pass, etc.

What do you think? And what teams other than KC and DAL figure to use this set as their primary offensive alignment?
Thanks TJ. Excellent article. :thumbup:

J

 
What do you think? And what teams other than KC and DAL figure to use this set as their primary offensive alignment?
Al Saunders, Chris Cooley, Mike Sellers, Christian Fauria maybe.
 

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