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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (3 Viewers)

Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Man that is a nice haul you gave for Rodgers.
It's really just Spiller and the 2014 picks. That may be a slight overpay, but it could be worth it if Spiller's poor 2013 season wasn't strictly due to the high ankle sprain.

Roddy >/= Wayne

Gerhart (provided he lands in a good spot) = Miller and Tanny (I'm not a Tannehill fan though)

2015 2nd = Kearse 2015, 3rd

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?

The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?

The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
I'm in a few leagues where I'm going this route - it's not always all it's cracked up to be. Those guys are all very up and down.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?

The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
Not all QB1 production is created equal. Arod gives you about 3+ ppg over these QBs you listed (5-6 vs Brady). 3ppg isn't insignificant, and is the difference between Lacy and Woodhead/Joique/Mathews last year.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
I'm in a few leagues where I'm going this route - it's not always all it's cracked up to be. Those guys are all very up and down.
I've got Rodgers in most of my leagues, and with the exception of 2011, so is he. The real difference here is a less than a handful of points per game, and that's not worth Spiller and two firsts. It's not close.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
Not all QB1 production is created equal. Arod gives you about 3+ ppg over these QBs you listed (5-6 vs Brady). 3ppg isn't insignificant, and is the difference between Lacy and Woodhead/Joique/Mathews last year.
Very true. But is 3 PPG, or 5, or even more than that worth CJ Spiller AND two 1sts?

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
I'm in a few leagues where I'm going this route - it's not always all it's cracked up to be. Those guys are all very up and down.
I've got Rodgers in most of my leagues, and with the exception of 2011, so is he. The real difference here is a less than a handful of points per game, and that's not worth Spiller and two firsts. It's not close.
I wouldn't call Roddy/Gerhart/2015 2nd as being equal to Wayne/Tanny/Heath/2015 3rd. The rest of the deal you aren't quoting is very, very, very slanted in Roddy's favor.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Man that is a nice haul you gave for Rodgers.
It's really just Spiller and the 2014 picks. That may be a slight overpay, but it could be worth it if Spiller's poor 2013 season wasn't strictly due to the high ankle sprain.

Roddy >/= Wayne

Gerhart (provided he lands in a good spot) = Miller and Tanny (I'm not a Tannehill fan though)

2015 2nd = Kearse 2015, 3rd
Funny I keep hearing his poor performance. He didn't get the touches due to ankle injury but his Ypc was great and he still led the team in rushing yards.

 
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Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
I'm in a few leagues where I'm going this route - it's not always all it's cracked up to be. Those guys are all very up and down.
I've got Rodgers in most of my leagues, and with the exception of 2011, so is he. The real difference here is a less than a handful of points per game, and that's not worth Spiller and two firsts. It's not close.
I wouldn't call Roddy/Gerhart/2015 2nd as being equal to Wayne/Tanny/Heath/2015 3rd. The rest of the deal you aren't quoting is very, very, very slanted in Roddy's favor.
Agree to disagree then. I like certainly like Roddy, Gerhardt, 2nd more than Wayne, Tannehill, Heath, 3rd -- but not even close to enough to offset the rest of that deal.

As mentioned, I own Rodgers in a bunch of leagues -- in most of them I'd easily move him for either Spiller or the two 1sts alone.

 
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Man that is a nice haul you gave for Rodgers.
It's really just Spiller and the 2014 picks. That may be a slight overpay, but it could be worth it if Spiller's poor 2013 season wasn't strictly due to the high ankle sprain.

Roddy >/= Wayne

Gerhart (provided he lands in a good spot) = Miller and Tanny (I'm not a Tannehill fan though)

2015 2nd = Kearse 2015, 3rd
Funny I keep hearing his poor performance. He didn't get the touches due to ankle injury but his Ypc was great and he still led the team in rushing yards.
The fact that he didn't pull away from a 32/33 year old RB, after his coaches said they would run him until he puked is part of a "poor" season (perhaps I should have said "disappointing" instead).

I think he can and will bounce back, but there is the possibility that the guy just can't handle a full load and will always have a timeshare back on board. He did not look as explosive in 2013 as he did in 2012, and while I do beleive (as stated) that that was most likely due to his early season HAS, I'm allowing for the possibility that it may not have been.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Billy Ball Thorton said:
Dr. Octopus said:
One More Rep said:
Jrodicus said:
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Man that is a nice haul you gave for Rodgers.
It's really just Spiller and the 2014 picks. That may be a slight overpay, but it could be worth it if Spiller's poor 2013 season wasn't strictly due to the high ankle sprain.

Roddy >/= Wayne

Gerhart (provided he lands in a good spot) = Miller and Tanny (I'm not a Tannehill fan though)

2015 2nd = Kearse 2015, 3rd
Funny I keep hearing his poor performance. He didn't get the touches due to ankle injury but his Ypc was great and he still led the team in rushing yards.
The fact that he didn't pull away from a 32/33 year old RB, after his coaches said they would run him until he puked is part of a "poor" season (perhaps I should have said "disappointing" instead).

I think he can and will bounce back, but there is the possibility that the guy just can't handle a full load and will always have a timeshare back on board. He did not look as explosive in 2013 as he did in 2012, and while I do beleive (as stated) that that was most likely due to his early season HAS, I'm allowing for the possibility that it may not have been.
There's no shame in not completely taking the job from Fred Jackson -- regardless of any coach speak or Jackaon's age. Jackson is damn good -- good enough to serve up walking papers to Marshawn Lynch, and good enough to be the best RB in the entire NFL prior to getting hurt in 2011.

As for Spiller's workload, meh. Spiller was RB6 on only 250 touches in 2012. He doesn't need a full workload to be a hugely valuable FF asset.

 
Coeur de Lion said:
jonboltz said:
Coeur de Lion said:
Dr. Octopus said:
Coeur de Lion said:
MoveToSkypager said:
Jrodicus said:
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Paid too much now, but I can see how this type of trade can pay off. Should Gerhart get a chance to win a starting job and Roddy White doesn't suck, this deal can work. QB stability even in a start 1 QB league is important.
Stability? How does that work?The fact of the matter is that you can get QB1 production from a Brady, Romo, Cutler, Rivers, Roethlisberger without giving up a core asset like Spiller or a single 1st round pick. It makes zero sense to massively overpay for Rodgers' name on your roster in a 1 QB league.
I'm in a few leagues where I'm going this route - it's not always all it's cracked up to be. Those guys are all very up and down.
I've got Rodgers in most of my leagues, and with the exception of 2011, so is he. The real difference here is a less than a handful of points per game, and that's not worth Spiller and two firsts. It's not close.
I wouldn't call Roddy/Gerhart/2015 2nd as being equal to Wayne/Tanny/Heath/2015 3rd. The rest of the deal you aren't quoting is very, very, very slanted in Roddy's favor.
Agree to disagree then. I like certainly like Roddy, Gerhardt, 2nd more than Wayne, Tannehill, Heath, 3rd -- but not even close to enough to offset the rest of that deal.

As mentioned, I own Rodgers in a bunch of leagues -- in most of them I'd easily move him for either Spiller or the two 1sts alone.
There was a lot of negotiating back and forth on this. I also have the 1.03, 1.05, and 1.11...each of those picks came up during negotiations.

The other owner wouldn't budge off wanting at least 2 1st round picks, and the 1.08 and 1.11 wouldn't do it. I added in Spiller as opposed to giving the 1.03 and 1.05 in the deal. But, when I added in Spiller, I requested the other pieces back to try and hedge it a bit.

Ultimately, I feel better abot ARod's value being more stable long-term than I do about Spiller.

 
10 team ppr Start 1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex(any), idp

Not involved.

Team A gives:

Trent Richardson (6 years)

Ray Rice (2 years)

Team B gives

Gio (4 years)

Arian Foster (RFA)

Team B had about a 25% chance of keeping Foster, I'd say team A will have about a 75% chance, depending if he tries to go after another RFA or not.

 
10 team ppr Start 1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex(any), idp

Not involved.

Team A gives:

Trent Richardson (6 years)

Ray Rice (2 years)

Team B gives

Gio (4 years)

Arian Foster (RFA)

Team B had about a 25% chance of keeping Foster, I'd say team A will have about a 75% chance, depending if he tries to go after another RFA or not.
Gio side for me with or without Foster

 
10 team ppr Start 1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex(any), idp

Not involved.

Team A gives:

Trent Richardson (6 years)

Ray Rice (2 years)

Team B gives

Gio (4 years)

Arian Foster (RFA)

Team B had about a 25% chance of keeping Foster, I'd say team A will have about a 75% chance, depending if he tries to go after another RFA or not.
So you are saying team B had a 25% chance of keeping Foster so he just gave Gio away too? I want in on that action

 
10 team ppr Start 1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex(any), idp

Not involved.

Team A gives:

Trent Richardson (6 years)

Ray Rice (2 years)

Team B gives

Gio (4 years)

Arian Foster (RFA)

Team B had about a 25% chance of keeping Foster, I'd say team A will have about a 75% chance, depending if he tries to go after another RFA or not.
So you are saying team B had a 25% chance of keeping Foster so he just gave Gio away too? I want in on that action
Gio for Rice and TRich is still not even close. Congrats to Team A for fleecing one of the few remaining fantasy players who believe TRich is an NFL caliber RB.

 
There was a lot of negotiating back and forth on this. I also have the 1.03, 1.05, and 1.11...each of those picks came up during negotiations.

The other owner wouldn't budge off wanting at least 2 1st round picks, and the 1.08 and 1.11 wouldn't do it. I added in Spiller as opposed to giving the 1.03 and 1.05 in the deal. But, when I added in Spiller, I requested the other pieces back to try and hedge it a bit.

Ultimately, I feel better abot ARod's value being more stable long-term than I do about Spiller.
I feel his value is only going to go up as Peyton, Brady and Brees retire. Some other guys might take that next step but there's no other QB I trust as much the next 5 years.

 
Got offered and accepted this trade yesterday in small money league.

12 teams, 2 RB, 3 WR, one flex with RB .75 PPR and WR 1 PPR.

Accepted: Hakeem Nicks and SJAX

Gave: Lattimore and a 2015#2-projected to be a late pick.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Billy Ball Thorton said:
Dr. Octopus said:
One More Rep said:
Jrodicus said:
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
Man that is a nice haul you gave for Rodgers.
It's really just Spiller and the 2014 picks. That may be a slight overpay, but it could be worth it if Spiller's poor 2013 season wasn't strictly due to the high ankle sprain.

Roddy >/= Wayne

Gerhart (provided he lands in a good spot) = Miller and Tanny (I'm not a Tannehill fan though)

2015 2nd = Kearse 2015, 3rd
Funny I keep hearing his poor performance. He didn't get the touches due to ankle injury but his Ypc was great and he still led the team in rushing yards.
The fact that he didn't pull away from a 32/33 year old RB, after his coaches said they would run him until he puked is part of a "poor" season (perhaps I should have said "disappointing" instead).

I think he can and will bounce back, but there is the possibility that the guy just can't handle a full load and will always have a timeshare back on board. He did not look as explosive in 2013 as he did in 2012, and while I do beleive (as stated) that that was most likely due to his early season HAS, I'm allowing for the possibility that it may not have been.
He limped off the field after every other carry all season. What else is there to attribute it to?

 
12 man, 2 QB league, no PPR

Le'Veon Bell

1.01

1.02

for

Nick Foles

DeSean Jackson
At first glance I actually said out loud "What the hell?" but then I seen it is was a 2 qb league. I would still take Bell and the picks by a mile, but it isn't quite as bad.
I had the same exact experience. 2 QB leagues makes it a little less shocking, but I'd still take the Bell side and use one of those picks on a QB.

I'd much prefer Bell, Bridgewater and Watkins to Foles and Jackson.

ETA: and I'm a huge Foles' fan.
Count me as shocked too .... even in a two QB set, gave up too much value for a third tier QB and second tier WR. Especially when a likely 1st tier WR (even if a year out) and a [robable QB starter could have been had with the picks. You can't toss RBs that are not stuck in a RBBC so easily either.

 
Jrodicus said:
ghostguy123 said:
Jrodicus said:
Same league (6 point all TD)

Give: Spiller, Tanny, 1.06, 1.08, Wayne, Heath Miller, Kearse, 2015 3rd

Get: ARod, Gerhart, Roddy, 2015 2nd
If not a two qb league, I take the spiller side pretty easy.
Yeah, I overpaid...but with Tanny as my QB1, I was going to have to use at least 1 of those picks on a QB (now the other guy has that mess to deal with). Roddy is a little improvement over Wayne, Gerhart may end up somewhere decent...but really, it's moving from Spiller to ARod, which I consider to be a much safer and valuable long-term option.
Maybe, but I'd rather have Rodgers.

 
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Mass Raider just got hosed.

No. I can see why someone would want to keep the Marshall side, but that's how expensive Julio is.You can disagree with it, but if the guy paid market value then by definition he didn't get hosed.
:rolleyes:
That's market value. Do you disagree? Or do you just not like this particular deal because of the rosters involved?

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

Not certain anyone got "hosed" here.

Top 6 WR are expensive commodities to acquire. Not all recent Julio deals have reflected this but I don't think it is a gross overpay at all.

I can't say I would give that up for Julio myself but if I were selling it would be tough to part with him for less

 
10 team ppr Start 1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1flex(any), idp

Not involved.

Team A gives:

Trent Richardson (6 years)

Ray Rice (2 years)

Team B gives

Gio (4 years)

Arian Foster (RFA)

Team B had about a 25% chance of keeping Foster, I'd say team A will have about a 75% chance, depending if he tries to go after another RFA or not.
Gio not close

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

Not certain anyone got "hosed" here.

Top 6 WR are expensive commodities to acquire. Not all recent Julio deals have reflected this but I don't think it is a gross overpay at all.

I can't say I would give that up for Julio myself but if I were selling it would be tough to part with him for less
I would pay that for Julio. The only known commodity on the other side is Marshall and I rather have Julio. Who knows what Woods and the 1.3 will do for your roster?

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

Not certain anyone got "hosed" here.Top 6 WR are expensive commodities to acquire. Not all recent Julio deals have reflected this but I don't think it is a gross overpay at all.

I can't say I would give that up for Julio myself but if I were selling it would be tough to part with him for less
I would pay that for Julio. The only known commodity on the other side is Marshall and I rather have Julio. Who knows what Woods and the 1.3 will do for your roster?
Yup. Paid Marshall + Seastrunk + Dwayne Allen for Demaryius recently and paid Cobb + Bell for Julio after his injury. I think those are similar prices and wouldn't consider either an overpay for either top-5 WR.

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

Not certain anyone got "hosed" here.Top 6 WR are expensive commodities to acquire. Not all recent Julio deals have reflected this but I don't think it is a gross overpay at all.

I can't say I would give that up for Julio myself but if I were selling it would be tough to part with him for less
I would pay that for Julio. The only known commodity on the other side is Marshall and I rather have Julio. Who knows what Woods and the 1.3 will do for your roster?
Yup. Paid Marshall + Seastrunk + Dwayne Allen for Demaryius recently and paid Cobb + Bell for Julio after his injury. I think those are similar prices and wouldn't consider either an overpay for either top-5 WR.
The first trade is okay. If you're talking Leveon Bell in the 2nd, I'd definitely prefer Cobb + Bell over Julio.

 
When marshall is done playing, Julio will still be a stud for like 5 more years, maybe longer.

I think that is worth the #3 rookie pick. I will take 5 stud years over any unknown rookie.

Only way I dont take Julio is if i know I can deal pick 3 for a top 10-12 rb, which isnt likely.

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

I wouldn't pay that for Julio. I wouldn't say a person got hosed but I wouldn't pay it.
Agreed. Woods isn't crazy valuable, but the 1.03 is.

It's not a lopsided deal in either direction, but I'd take Marshall plus the 1.03 for Julio.
I'd call that an even trade, and I would probably pay it to get Julio, but I agree that the 1.03 is very valuable.

 
12 team ppr

Give: Floyd, 1.10, 2.05

Get: 1.03, 1.05, 1.06
So Floyd is now a top 3-5 dynasty WR??? I wouldn't even think floyds mom would pay that.
That package is not likely to land anyone a top 3-5 WR. Still, as good as Floyd is, what is essentially a little more than 1.3 and 1.5 for Floyd is a nice haul.
Maybe it shouldn't......... But we both know damn well that picks 3 and 5 would get a top 5 WR from a couple people per league in the ffpc.

When I see dez traded for an injured roddy white and James Jones last year, makes me.believe in miracles.

 
Mass Raider just got hosed.

Not certain anyone got "hosed" here.Top 6 WR are expensive commodities to acquire. Not all recent Julio deals have reflected this but I don't think it is a gross overpay at all.

I can't say I would give that up for Julio myself but if I were selling it would be tough to part with him for less
I would pay that for Julio. The only known commodity on the other side is Marshall and I rather have Julio. Who knows what Woods and the 1.3 will do for your roster?
Yup. Paid Marshall + Seastrunk + Dwayne Allen for Demaryius recently and paid Cobb + Bell for Julio after his injury. I think those are similar prices and wouldn't consider either an overpay for either top-5 WR.
The first trade is okay. If you're talking Leveon Bell in the 2nd, I'd definitely prefer Cobb + Bell over Julio.
I don't agree. But then, I can't think of any two non-top-7-WR players that I'd take for a top-5 WR, other than Graham/Gronk. If that jumble of words makes sense. So it's a given that I wouldn't prefer Cobb/Bell.
 
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