cstu
Footballguy
Not close at all.
1.3 > VJax
1.10 > 1.06
Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gordon
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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (2 Viewers)
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1.3 > VJax
1.10 > 1.06
Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gordon
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
But there are enough of them that you don't give him up for old and/or damaged goods.
VJax is 31, he'll probably play as long as Michael will. The 1.10 will obviously be young.
To be clear, I'm only talking about your post, not the deal as it went down.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
If you're saying the Michael owner would be dumb not to sell for the 3 things on the other side, then yes you're probably right. I don't really want to get into whether Michael is really that great or not, I'm just making a comment on his value. There are a lot of ways to break down the original trade to make the side getting Michael appear as a clear winner. I could harp on 1.3 being Sankey instead. The 3 highest valued items are on the same side IMO.
14 Team Dynasty PPR
Gave:
Roddy White, Donald Brown, late 2015 1st(11-14 overall)
Received:
Percy Harvin
Took a chance that Harvin can stay healthy and produce consistent numbers with a few big games sprinkled in. Roddy rubbed me the wrong way last year even though he came back strong from injury. At 32 years old, I assume a drop off is coming soon and wanted out while he still held good value. I don't think I'll miss Donald Brown too much and the late first is always a crapshoot. I'd rather have the younger elite commodity. I think it was a lateral move for the next two seasons that hopefully pays dividends after that. If all else fails, I know of a couple guys in the league who will pay top dollar for Harvin, so I can always swap him too.
Gave:
Roddy White, Donald Brown, late 2015 1st(11-14 overall)
Received:
Percy Harvin
Took a chance that Harvin can stay healthy and produce consistent numbers with a few big games sprinkled in. Roddy rubbed me the wrong way last year even though he came back strong from injury. At 32 years old, I assume a drop off is coming soon and wanted out while he still held good value. I don't think I'll miss Donald Brown too much and the late first is always a crapshoot. I'd rather have the younger elite commodity. I think it was a lateral move for the next two seasons that hopefully pays dividends after that. If all else fails, I know of a couple guys in the league who will pay top dollar for Harvin, so I can always swap him too.
jeaton6
Footballguy
This was an odd one because Pierce was picked ahead of Ingram by 2 rounds. Huff was picked in 17th and Cadet while picked in 21st is barely rosterable. Doesn't really seem like there's been enough news in last week or two on any of these guys for this trade to make much sense for guy giving up Pierce/Huff.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
14 team, 1PPR
Brady,Mathews,G.Tate for
Foles, K. Carey, A. Holmes
Brady,Mathews,G.Tate for
Foles, K. Carey, A. Holmes
audiolover
Footballguy
12 team ppr:
I gave: Sanders
I got :1.3
Wrs are calvin,AJ,Cobb,Randle, Allen, Rogers
I think sanders will surprise this year but I don't think he was ever going to start on my team. (Start 3wr)
I gave: Sanders
I got :1.3
Wrs are calvin,AJ,Cobb,Randle, Allen, Rogers
I think sanders will surprise this year but I don't think he was ever going to start on my team. (Start 3wr)
bostonfred
Footballguy
I guess if you own khiry/pierre or plan to trade for them, you can make a case for the collect them all strategy.jeaton6 said:
One More Rep
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jeaton6
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audiolover
Footballguy
It was offered to me out of the blue...
same league not involved
team a gave: 1.2, tyvon branch
team b gave: Andre Johnson
cstu
Footballguy
Likely Ryan. I'll take Foles.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Dragon1952
Footballguy
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
QRWWWTFF PPR 14Team
A. Keenan Allen
B. 2015 1st, 2nd, 6th. All picks likely Late
A. Keenan Allen
B. 2015 1st, 2nd, 6th. All picks likely Late
One More Rep
Footballguy
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
I actually think Hawkins could offer WR3 production in non ppr this season but yeah it basically gives me an extra roster spot
29 roster spots
Rolling_akg
Footballguy
League is 27 roster spots. Cadet is very rosterable imo. If the pt cruiser goes down, or even leaves after this year cadet will catch some balls. Sometimes the end of rbs at NO is the way to go. Joique was there, then ivory (imagining without injury concerns), why not cadet in 27 spot league?jeaton6 said:
FUBAR
Footballguy
Those could be early picks and I'd still take Allen.
Deep 32 team league with lineups that will probably have gaps (meaning most of your team will start and a two for one will likely yield two starters);
A: Jimmy Graham for Jordan Cameron and Andre Ellington
B: Amendola, colston, Tim Wright for R Jennings, M Lee, H Douglas
I traded Graham. In any other league I'd need more, but here with both AE and JC starting will put more points in the lineup unless they bust.
jeaton6
Footballguy
27 roster spots isn't that deep. First startup I've seen him picked. Not that he couldn't be a factor at some point this year or next year but he's a lottery ticket. He is likely to be dropped in first BB frenzy.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Terrance Williams + 2.05
for
1.05
for
1.05
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
- Team A gave up Stacy, Zac STL RB; Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team A
- Team B gave up Jones-Drew, Maurice OAK RB;McFadden, Darren OAK RB;Williams, Andre NYG RB;Wilson, David NYG RB
FUBAR
Footballguy
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
What if he didn't want "more". What if he wanted Brandon Cooks? I think if that were Watkins instead of Cooks people wouldn't mind it as much... but what if the guy getting Cooks prefers him to Watkins? Important to remember we're dealing with individuals who have individual preferences rather than some sort of vague, homogenous "market".
I just don't understand why anyone would do that. Pretty much the best possible scenario for a late 2015 first is... Keenan Allen. Allen is ridiculously young- there's a very good chance that he'll still be younger than whoever gets drafted with that 2015 1st. So you're trading Keenan Allen for a 10% chance you'll get the next Keenan Allen and a 90% chance you just blew it horribly, and all you're getting for taking on that risk is a late 2nd and a late SIXTH?!
I literally cannot think of a single league or team for whom that trade makes the slightest bit of sense. That's not a "reasonable people disagree" type of trade, that's a "people are crazy" type of trade.
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
Fwiw. Owner giving Keenan Allen has Julio, Calvin, Patterson, and AJG.
Don't think it matters. It's not like he's trading from a position of strength to fill a need. That late 2015 first won't start for him this year. It probably won't start for him next year, either. If he wanted to move Allen for something that helped his team, I wouldn't have blinked, even if he'd gone for less than "market value". Keenan Allen for Reggie Bush? Sure, I get it. Allen for Toby Gerhart? I get it. I don't like it, but I understand it. Allen for an early or mid 2015 first? Sure, he's trying to get into the 2015 RB sweepstakes. I just don't see how trading Allen for a late 2015 first could possibly benefit anyone, with any team. The upside of that trade is you just gave away Keenan Allen for the next Keenan Allen. The downside is that you just gave away Keenan Allen.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Spin
Footballguy
10 teams start 1QB / 2RB / 3 WR / 1TE / 1 SuperFlex/ IDP PPR + Contract years with cap of 100. 40 man rosters
I traded:
Carson Palmer ( can assign as many as he'd like)
Ryan Mallet (4 years)
He traded:
Geno Smith (4 years)
~25% of yearly FFAB
Having RG3 and Rodgers already, I liked moving Mallet/Palmer to take a shot on Geno, he finished pretty well down the stretch. Also gives me more currency to go after Jimmy Graham in the offseason (he's a FA and will be up for open bids)
I traded:
Carson Palmer ( can assign as many as he'd like)
Ryan Mallet (4 years)
He traded:
Geno Smith (4 years)
~25% of yearly FFAB
Having RG3 and Rodgers already, I liked moving Mallet/Palmer to take a shot on Geno, he finished pretty well down the stretch. Also gives me more currency to go after Jimmy Graham in the offseason (he's a FA and will be up for open bids)
Spin
Footballguy
10 teams start 1QB / 2RB / 3 WR / 1TE / 1 SuperFlex/ IDP PPR + Contract years with cap of 100. 40 man rosters, unspent currency carries over
Other trades, I am Team G, just people clearing cap space and trying to get under cap numbers for the most part
Team A gave up Jennings, Rashad NYG RB, ~15% of FAABB
Team B gave up Bradshaw, Ahmad IND RB;Janis, Jeff GBP WR;Wayne, Reggie IND WR; Year 2015 Round 6 Draft Pick
Team C gave up Brown, Andre HOU RB;Johnson, Dennis HOU RB;Smith, Justin SFO DE;Jennings, Tim CHI CB
Team A gave up ~10% of FAABB
Team B gave up Pettis, Austin STL WR;Novak, Nick SDC PK;McCourty, Devin NEP S; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick
Team D gave up Wallace, Mike MIA WR; Year 2016 Round 6 Draft Pick from The Notorious B.I.Goz
Team B gave up Trufant, Desmond ATL CB; Year 2015 Round 7 Draft Pick from B.S. Inc, ~10% of FAABB
Team E gave up Cooper, Riley PHI WR;Hunter, Jason OAK DE;Rhodes, Xavier MIN CB; Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick
Team F gave up Johnson, Chris NYJ RB;Fleener, Coby IND TE; Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick
Team B gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Olsen, Greg CAR TE; Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick
Team G gave up Blackmon, Justin JAC WR; Bridgewater (5 contract years), Teddy MIN QB (DTS eligible for 3 years before needing a contract)
Team H gave up Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Other trades, I am Team G, just people clearing cap space and trying to get under cap numbers for the most part
Team A gave up Jennings, Rashad NYG RB, ~15% of FAABB
Team B gave up Bradshaw, Ahmad IND RB;Janis, Jeff GBP WR;Wayne, Reggie IND WR; Year 2015 Round 6 Draft Pick
Team C gave up Brown, Andre HOU RB;Johnson, Dennis HOU RB;Smith, Justin SFO DE;Jennings, Tim CHI CB
Team A gave up ~10% of FAABB
Team B gave up Pettis, Austin STL WR;Novak, Nick SDC PK;McCourty, Devin NEP S; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick
Team D gave up Wallace, Mike MIA WR; Year 2016 Round 6 Draft Pick from The Notorious B.I.Goz
Team B gave up Trufant, Desmond ATL CB; Year 2015 Round 7 Draft Pick from B.S. Inc, ~10% of FAABB
Team E gave up Cooper, Riley PHI WR;Hunter, Jason OAK DE;Rhodes, Xavier MIN CB; Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick
Team F gave up Johnson, Chris NYJ RB;Fleener, Coby IND TE; Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick
Team B gave up Jackson, Steven ATL RB;Olsen, Greg CAR TE; Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick
Team G gave up Blackmon, Justin JAC WR; Bridgewater (5 contract years), Teddy MIN QB (DTS eligible for 3 years before needing a contract)
Team H gave up Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
josh gordon
for
aaron dobson
for
aaron dobson
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
yeah that almost makes it worse given it's a 14 team league and you can start all 5 wr's
FUBAR
Footballguy
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
Yeah I feel good about the trade, especially having been short on WR. It helped that no one else really wanted to trade with him either. Allen def boosts my team.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
- Team A gave up Williams, Andre NYG RB;Marshall, Brandon CHI WR; Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team B
- Team B gave up Hill, Jeremy CIN RB;Cooks, Brandin NOS WR;Hunter, Justin TEN WR; Year 2015 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
steveski
Footballguy
12 Team Full PPR Start 2-3 RBs
Team A gives:
Demarco Murray
Lance Dunbar
Joseph Randle
Team B gives:
Devonta Freeman
Andre Williams
Golden Tate
2015 1st from Team B (1.11 or 1.12)
2015 1st from Team C (1.08-1.11)
Team B's team looks solid and SHOULD win it this year. Team A's team looks good but realistically probably 2+ away from a championship chance.
Team A gives:
Demarco Murray
Lance Dunbar
Joseph Randle
Team B gives:
Devonta Freeman
Andre Williams
Golden Tate
2015 1st from Team B (1.11 or 1.12)
2015 1st from Team C (1.08-1.11)
Team B's team looks solid and SHOULD win it this year. Team A's team looks good but realistically probably 2+ away from a championship chance.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'd have a real hard time giving three 1sts for Murray, even including his backups.
It wouldn't shock too many people if Freeman outscored DM himself this year, though I wouldn't bet on it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
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steveski
Footballguy
I was the team giving up Murray and yeah I agree. I wouldn't be surprised to see Murray finish in the top 5 this year if he stays healthy (big if). The problem is I don't think I have a shot at winning this year and maybe not next year either. If Murray ends up getting hurt early in the year or even midway through, I think his value should drop substantially and I think the Cowboys move on from him next year. I think both sides ended up winning depending on what they wanted. The guy getting Murray should have basically just locked up a title this year. I get a lot of potential and picks to help me down the road.
Even though I don't like to mix being a fan with fantasy, getting rid of a Cowboys player did feel pretty good.
Ryan Mathews is now my RB1 though
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