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***Official 2008 DETROIT TIGERS Thread*** (1 Viewer)

I was at the game yesterday. I split a package with a couple of friend and had four yesterday. I was all pumped a few a month ago. Three buddys I grew up with were meeting at Nemos and watcxh the Tigers in the middle of a pennant race.How depressing, two of my buddys left in the 6th inning saying they cound not take it anymore and went to the casino. My other friend and I just sat there in disbelief at how disinterested the Tigers looked.Renteria just goes through the motions. Sheff does not want to be here, Leyland sits Maggs and Guillen in what should have been a must win game. The fans were downright hostile toward Sheff. People were ripping Dombrowski all over the stadium.This team needs another player like Granderson..hustlers that work hard every AB and in the field. Renteria brings me down everytime I see him play. When you make 8 million a year and can`t run hard on a ground ball something is wrong.I have two games left and I will probably give away the tickets, yesterday was very depressing.
I went Saturday night and was glad they won. They actually were 3-0 in the games I went to this year. Then I flipped on the game Sunday and saw they were already down 4-0 in the bottom of the first and I thought to myself "thank goodness I didn't buy tickets for that game instead." The atmosphere at the ballpark is almost like Lions game at this point. Folks are just waiting for (and almost expecting) a mistake so they can start booing certain players that they can't stand (i.e. Sheffield, Renteria, Rodney, etc.) For example, Sheffield singles in a run Sat. night, walked in a later at bat, and then a few innings later he strikes out and the crowd just let him have it. Granted the at bat was pretty pathetic but the guy had been pretty productive earlier in the game and really didn't deserve to be booed back to the dugout. I am really thankful that I don't have anymore tickets this year since the effort is only going to get more lackluster from here out out -- thus the Leyland speech the other day about how they owe it to Mr. Ilitch to play hard for the rest of the year. He senses the let down that the players are having. Plus, I still don't get all the Inge love. People in the crowd were still talking about how he's such a great player because he plays hard every play and I am thinking to myself -- the guy is batting .215 after the great start he had (and less than Sheffield now and much less than Renteria) and you people are giving him a pass because he "plays hard." While that is a great quality to have, any minor leaguer can come up here and play hard. But at some point that player has to produce if he wants to continue playing at the major league level. Anyway, I am done with my rant but since we really don't have any options at catcher in the short term I guess he will continue to catch next year and bat 9th for us which I can live with if he is able to produce defensively by shutting down the other team's running game.
 
For example, Sheffield singles in a run Sat. night, walked in a later at bat, and then a few innings later he strikes out and the crowd just let him have it. Granted the at bat was pretty pathetic but the guy had been pretty productive earlier in the game and really didn't deserve to be booed back to the dugout.
When you are making $14 million and putting up the numbers that Sheffield is, then booing is definitely justified...especially after he complained about not playing in the field. The guy needs to shut up and produce.
 
I was at the game yesterday. I split a package with a couple of friend and had four yesterday. I was all pumped a few a month ago. Three buddys I grew up with were meeting at Nemos and watcxh the Tigers in the middle of a pennant race.

How depressing, two of my buddys left in the 6th inning saying they cound not take it anymore and went to the casino. My other friend and I just sat there in disbelief at how disinterested the Tigers looked.

Renteria just goes through the motions. Sheff does not want to be here, Leyland sits Maggs and Guillen in what should have been a must win game. The fans were downright hostile toward Sheff. People were ripping Dombrowski all over the stadium.

This team needs another player like Granderson..hustlers that work hard every AB and in the field. Renteria brings me down everytime I see him play. When you make 8 million a year and can`t run hard on a ground ball something is wrong.

I have two games left and I will probably give away the tickets, yesterday was very depressing.
I went Saturday night and was glad they won. They actually were 3-0 in the games I went to this year. Then I flipped on the game Sunday and saw they were already down 4-0 in the bottom of the first and I thought to myself "thank goodness I didn't buy tickets for that game instead." The atmosphere at the ballpark is almost like Lions game at this point. Folks are just waiting for (and almost expecting) a mistake so they can start booing certain players that they can't stand (i.e. Sheffield, Renteria, Rodney, etc.) For example, Sheffield singles in a run Sat. night, walked in a later at bat, and then a few innings later he strikes out and the crowd just let him have it. Granted the at bat was pretty pathetic but the guy had been pretty productive earlier in the game and really didn't deserve to be booed back to the dugout. I am really thankful that I don't have anymore tickets this year since the effort is only going to get more lackluster from here out out -- thus the Leyland speech the other day about how they owe it to Mr. Ilitch to play hard for the rest of the year. He senses the let down that the players are having. Plus, I still don't get all the Inge love. People in the crowd were still talking about how he's such a great player because he plays hard every play and I am thinking to myself -- the guy is batting .215 after the great start he had (and less than Sheffield now and much less than Renteria) and you people are giving him a pass because he "plays hard." While that is a great quality to have, any minor leaguer can come up here and play hard. But at some point that player has to produce if he wants to continue playing at the major league level. Anyway, I am done with my rant but since we really don't have any options at catcher in the short term I guess he will continue to catch next year and bat 9th for us which I can live with if he is able to produce defensively by shutting down the other team's running game.
It blew my mind yesterday, we are getting killed..Inge is batting about 202 and dam near gets a standing ovation everytime he comes to the the plate. WTF is that all about???
 
Assuming everyone went through waivers, I hope DD is trying to make trades right now. Surely someone like the Mets could use Farnsworth or Miner or something.

 
I was at the game yesterday. I split a package with a couple of friend and had four yesterday. I was all pumped a few a month ago. Three buddys I grew up with were meeting at Nemos and watcxh the Tigers in the middle of a pennant race.How depressing, two of my buddys left in the 6th inning saying they cound not take it anymore and went to the casino. My other friend and I just sat there in disbelief at how disinterested the Tigers looked.
#### them, I never left a game in my life before the 9th. Those aren't baseball fans, those are guys who think it's cool to have Tiger tickets when the team is good. Hope you aren't lumped into this group but to be honest there are a ton of so called fans who can kiss my ###. I understand the frustration for the team this year but after watching 15 years of 90 loss teams any real fan although rightfully frustrated, can deal with it. It sucks but winning in baseball is probably harder than winning in the other sports.
Renteria just goes through the motions. Sheff does not want to be here, Leyland sits Maggs and Guillen in what should have been a must win game. The fans were downright hostile toward Sheff. People were ripping Dombrowski all over the stadium.
Sheff stinks, he is the exception when booing. Whoever was criticizing Dombrowski forgets Randy Smith and frankly the past two years. Before Dombrowski the Tigers were the equivalent to a middle class family looking for a place within Telegraph/8/Alter/Jefferson; no one wanted anything to do with it. You should have mentioned Armando Galarraga for a plate of rice, the Guillen trade, getting Polanco for a machete wielding nut job, drafting Verlander, Maybin, Granderson, and Joyce, filling the seats at Comerica, trading for Miguel Cabrera, and signing Pudge and Maggs. If people are mad about the current team, fine. If they are badmouthing Dombrowski they are dumb. He's easily one of the five best GMs in baseball and I wouldn't trade him for anyone.
This team needs another player like Granderson..hustlers that work hard every AB and in the field. Renteria brings me down every time I see him play. When you make 8 million a year and can`t run hard on a ground ball something is wrong.
You called the Renteria deal from the get go. Not many people did and no one could have seen this kind of drop off. Even if he was playing average or above average seeing Jurrjens pitch so well in Atlanta given the starting pitching problems would have hurt. All franchises make mistakes, this in hindsight was one of them.
I have two games left and I will probably give away the tickets, yesterday was very depressing.
I wish I could take those tickets, I'd go to any baseball game I could and I'd go see the Tigers 40 times a year if I could, 90 losses or 55 losses. It's never bad to be at the ballpark on a summer night watching your team play.
 
Amen to what Dr. D said.
In retrospect DD is right. I was bitter because I was looking forward to a meaningful game in late August with some old friends. Believe me..I stayed to the bitter end as I always do. The game lasted so long that I spent at least 40 dollars on beer by myself. 5 jumbos x 8 = 40 right?WTF at least I care enough to be angry now.
 
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Amen to what Dr. D said.
In retrospect DD is right. I was bitter because I was looking forward to a meaningful game in late August with some old friends. Believe me..I stayed to the bitter end as I always do. The game lasted so long that I spent at least 40 dollars on beer by myself. 5 jumbos x 8 = 40 right?WTF at least I care enough to be angry now.
Actually if I may, I think you've grown into a much better fan just this year looking at your comments and reactions to things. Not that I'm the judge and jury but I am very much a baseball snob and I think I know a lot about my team even though I sometimes paint too rosy of a picture. That's why I have my guys skillz and whoknew to set me straight among others. But sometimes people (maybe your friends and some others) follow a team because it's the thing to do or they are experts and informed critics because they rediscovered the team or the game in 2006. That's ok by me, I want them to fill the stands and bring in revenue and they have the right to be pissed off that the team underperformed relative to payroll. However, if you stand back for a moment and view things in a big picture given the past 21 years (post 1987), then you will realize the franchise is in a pretty good place relative to where they have been and they aren't the Pirates or Reds. Illitch is an awesome owner, Dombrowski has a proven track record, and they have guys like Maggs, Miggy, and Verlander who are mentioned in season ending awards talk. ####, last season was wonderful IMO, they were in a pennant race for all but two weeks or so, Maggs was the second best player in baseball, and it was fun. Maybe the silver lining is that people are actually #####ing, booing, and raising a fuss. When I was working sports news in Detroit in July and August the focus was purely on the Lions, and I hated talking football in July. Now people are complaining about the Tigers in August, I guess I have to look at it in my glass is half full approach as that being a good thing. :shrug:Next year expectations will be much lower and I'm guessing the team will over-perform. The day Bonderman went down for the season they were done and when you have your #2 starter and your expected #3 throwing balls over the catcher's head, things will not go your way in baseball. For all the talk of Renteria and Sheffield the offense is 6th in runs (and within striking distance of 2nd) and 3rd in OPS in the AL. They haven't been what they were supposed to be but they haven't been bad either. When you get an unexpected season performance like they have from Galarraga and they still are 10th in ERA, 11th in OPS against and WHIP as starters, you aren't going to win. The bullpen needs to be retooled and catch some luck, and they need a healthy Bonderman, an effective Willis who can at least eat some innings, and Verlander to pitch like an ace. I have a ton of faith in Bonderman (possibly slanted to a degree because he's my favorite player but I do think he comes back better than ever next year), I know Verlander has ace stuff if he can throw strikes early in the count, and I think it's possible Willis will recover and be an innings eater with the occasional ace-like performance. Add a solid vet like Lowe, Burnett (unlikely), or Byrd and you have guys who can take you to the 7th inning with a chance to win and you can string together 5 or 6 wins in a row something they just haven't been able to do this year. Whatever, I get criticized for being too much of an optimist with the Tigers (not like me with sports teams) but I think there is a lot to like here. Before the season started...the day before I almost posted that I had a bad feeling this wasn't going to turn out well. I didn't, not becaue I was afraid of being wrong, but because there is no sense in it. The organization as it stands right now has a chance to win, might as well let it play out and hope I was wrong. I didn't proclaim they would win anything, but I expected them to be in a pennant race right now. So I just like the fans I cast criticism on are essentially in the same place. I'll just look at what went right this year and think about next year and a new season to get things right. Even when they were losing 90-100+ games every year I tried to find something to get excited about, for 2009 I think I have a lot to look forward to. It's the Detroit Tigers, Cobb, 1984, Heilmann, Crawford, Greenberg, Newhouser, Gehringer, Gates Brown buying a hot dog while riding the bench, blue laws, getting owned by a guy with Three Fingers, beating the Cubs, Whitaker to Tram (by far the most underrated double play combo in MLB history), bleacher seats at Michigan and Trumbull, Ernie effing Harwell. There is always next year, I'll be at Spring Training with my ####### bells on. :yes:
 
Two questions for all Tiger fans:

1: Should the skipper be brought back?

2: If yes, why exactly?

I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.

 
Two questions for all Tiger fans: 1: Should the skipper be brought back?2: If yes, why exactly? I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.
I blame the players a lot more than I blame the manager, we were over rated entering the season but the players (Verlander, Sheff, Renteria) significantly under performed even reasonable expectations. Injuries to Guillen, Maggs, Bondo, and Grandy compounded things.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Two questions for all Tiger fans: 1: Should the skipper be brought back?2: If yes, why exactly? I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.
I think he would be welcomed back but there is a chance that he quits I'd think. Might depend on how they play here over the last month. Chuck Hernandez and maybe McClendon need to go though. I'd like to see Leon Durham get his shot. If DD fires Chuck, Leyland might not like that. We'll see. I don't think he's done a great job this year but he didn't have much pitching to work with. Also FWIW I wrote all that stuff last night because I hadn't been on internet for ten days or so and was trying to make up for lost time/words.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Two questions for all Tiger fans: 1: Should the skipper be brought back?2: If yes, why exactly? I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.
1. I haven't been thrilled with how Leyland has managed this year but I would bring him back. I do agree that there needs to be changes to his coaching staff though. Hernandez and McClendon need to go. As Doctor D said, Leyland may not like having management force the changes upon him and quit instead. If that happens I wouldn't be upset about him leaving since there needs to be some sort of change to the coaching staff. I would rather have him gone as manager than him return with the same coaches next year. I remember when Don Slaught was the hitting coach before McClendon assumed the role, it would be interesting to see if he would want to return to coaching again although I am sure he wouldn't want to do so at the expense of replacing McClendon who I believe he knows from Pitt.2. I just think that for all the attention that was paid to the lineup that was put together, the bottom line is that the pitching wasn't there. In 2006, we were having quality starts almost every night and the bullpen was holding leads with Walker, Zumaya, Rodney, and Jones. This year, I think the lineup has performed well enough for the team to compete for the division, but the pitching just wasn't there. I don't care how good of a manager someone is, if they don't have consistent, reliable pitching the team is going to be exposed over the course of a 162 game season. This year, the Tigers would either get a bad outing from a starter, or the bullpen would blow a lead in a game that we had wrapped up. It seemed to pick a unique way to lose a game every night. Losing Willis, Bonderman as starters really hurt. Kenny and Nate were very inconsistent this year, and Verlander never met expectations. So, in the end, Leyland only had one reliable starter out there every 5 days in Galarraga. With Bonderman coming back, Willis hopefully improving, and then hopefully with another addition to the starting rotation and closer role that the team I think we will be able to compete again despite a reduced payroll. As I said earlier in this thread, I really think the Tigers are only a reliable closer (I say Rodriguez, some are saying Fuentes -- whoever that may be) away from being competitive. If you add up all the blown saves this year, they would still be in the hunt right now if those games weren't blown. A 2009 starting rotation with Verlander, Bonderman, Galaragga, [a free agent signing], and Miner/Willis should be better than what we had this season. Basically, while I am very unhappy with how the season went, I think Jim deserves another year to make that happen given what he was able to do in 2006 and his track record in Pittsburgh and Florida. That being said, Leyland does drive me nuts with all the matchups he tries to play; he really overanalyzes stuff at times if you ask me by putting in a Rodney to face a RH hitter, when he could have just kept Seay in the game (I believe RHs hit for a lower avg v Seay than LHs so it would frustrate me to watch Seay pitch well to a few hitters only to give way to Rodney/Farnsworth who would subsequently blow the game). The resting of his star players all the time also drives me crazy. I love how he is trying to "save" his players when the bottom line is that there was nothing to save them for the past two seasons since the Tigers failed to make the playoffs. He needs to play his best players against their best competition, period.If things start out real slow next year I wouldn't hesitate to fire him mid-season. At some point, if the team isn't responding then you need to find someone new to deliver the message. I am also really hoping that some of the younger guys like Verlander, and Zumaya focus more on baseball and less on the celebrity aspect of being a baseball star. My gut feeling with them is that they really got caught up in the whole being a star thing after all the success they had during their rookie year in 2006 and maybe don't have the focus/hunger/sense of desperation that they had when they first got to the majors and were basically pitching to keep their job every outing. Verlander seems content on being a very good pitcher, when he could truly be a great one if he kept working at the craft. Same thing with Zumaya. He needs to develop a third pitch (change up, split finger) because he is finding out that the hitters know he is either throwing a curve, or fastball and are starting to really tee off on him now. Quit trying to light up the radar gun in the outfield to impress the fans and try to become a better rounded pitcher -- heck the guy was a starter just three years ago -- he needs to work on the pitches he had when he was starting and develop them as a reliever now because being two dimensional isn't going to cut it. End rant.
 
Leroy Hoard said:
Two questions for all Tiger fans: 1: Should the skipper be brought back?2: If yes, why exactly? I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.
I think he would be welcomed back but there is a chance that he quits I'd think. Might depend on how they play here over the last month. Chuck Hernandez and maybe McClendon need to go though. I'd like to see Leon Durham get his shot. If DD fires Chuck, Leyland might not like that. We'll see. I don't think he's done a great job this year but he didn't have much pitching to work with. Also FWIW I wrote all that stuff last night because I hadn't been on internet for ten days or so and was trying to make up for lost time/words.
Leylands body language would lead me to think he will not be back. The guy just looks tired.
 
Rodney seems to be a bit more comfortable in the closer role. Not perfect but more comfortable.
9 for his last 9. Problem is he's allowed base runners in all those games. I'm a big Rodney fan, he's one of my favorite players but when he can throw in the 95mph range with his fastball, he is very tough because his change-up is one of the best individual pitches in baseball. Man if he had control, he'd be unhittable. He's got a spot with the team next year for sure, in what role who knows. I'd guess as the primary set-up man at this moment with an outside chance of being the closer.
 
Two questions for all Tiger fans: 1: Should the skipper be brought back?2: If yes, why exactly? I gave Leyland a lot of slack early, but a sub-500 team with one of the highest payrolls in MLB does not inspire confidence.
I think he would be welcomed back but there is a chance that he quits I'd think. Might depend on how they play here over the last month. Chuck Hernandez and maybe McClendon need to go though. I'd like to see Leon Durham get his shot. If DD fires Chuck, Leyland might not like that. We'll see. I don't think he's done a great job this year but he didn't have much pitching to work with. Also FWIW I wrote all that stuff last night because I hadn't been on internet for ten days or so and was trying to make up for lost time/words.
Leylands body language would lead me to think he will not be back. The guy just looks tired.
He's coming back with a vengeance. The team overestimated the abilities of the pitching staff. The bullpen was a mess and is the difference between success and failure this season. Leyland most certainly deserves to be back.
 
I heard Rob Parker last night, he said the Tigers were for sure not bringing Renteria or Rogers back. Also said that Illitch wants to cut the payroll, not expand it for next year.

Getting rid of Renteria and Rogers has to save them at least 15 mill.

 
Rodney seems to be a bit more comfortable in the closer role. Not perfect but more comfortable.
9 for his last 9. Problem is he's allowed base runners in all those games. I'm a big Rodney fan, he's one of my favorite players but when he can throw in the 95mph range with his fastball, he is very tough because his change-up is one of the best individual pitches in baseball. Man if he had control, he'd be unhittable. He's got a spot with the team next year for sure, in what role who knows. I'd guess as the primary set-up man at this moment with an outside chance of being the closer.
if they cut payroll as stated he may have to be the closer, i don't see them spending any money on outside help next year, just cut the dead weight.
 
Rodney seems to be a bit more comfortable in the closer role. Not perfect but more comfortable.
9 for his last 9. Problem is he's allowed base runners in all those games. I'm a big Rodney fan, he's one of my favorite players but when he can throw in the 95mph range with his fastball, he is very tough because his change-up is one of the best individual pitches in baseball. Man if he had control, he'd be unhittable. He's got a spot with the team next year for sure, in what role who knows. I'd guess as the primary set-up man at this moment with an outside chance of being the closer.
if they cut payroll as stated he may have to be the closer, i don't see them spending any money on outside help next year, just cut the dead weight.
There is no way any team can have Rodney as a closer and expect to contend.
 
Lynn Henning podcast

Pretty good stuff speculating about next year. One interesting thing is he talks about how Illitch not Dombrowski was the reason behind some of the moves over the last few years (Renteria and Willis extension). So Illitch is saying he's gonna cut the payroll might mean: I'm gonna go back to owning and not GMing.

This also kills the arguments of hundreds of guys who call into Detroit sports talk radio #####ing about Dombrowski.

 
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Saw a report last night on ESPN that Garcia and Willis are both going to make at least one start before the season ends. Might as well put them out there and see what they can do since the season is a waste at this point anyway.

Also, Cabrera has quietly led the majors in RBIs since the All-Star break. He is hitting .303, has 17 HR's, 59 RBI's and a .622 slugging percentage since the break. He has really turned out to be everything we hoped for. Willis' problems notwithstanding, I still think that was a good deal for us.

 
CHICAGO -- Detroit Tigers reliever Joel Zumaya has a stress fracture in a bone at the front of his right shoulder and will be shut down from baseball activities for six to eight weeks.AdvertisementThe hard-throwing right-hander, who is on the disabled list, will be evaluated at that time.Zumaya had offseason right shoulder surgery and didn't join the team until June 20. He went back on the disabled list Aug. 13 because of a sore right shoulder and has appeared in only 21 games this season.Zumaya threw a light session Monday and felt fine Tuesday, but on Thursday he woke up with discomfort in his shoulder, Tigers trainer Kevin Rand said Friday.He then underwent an examination and tests revealed a non-displaced stress fracture of the right coracoid in his right shoulder."We're going to back off. No baseball activities, just rest," Rand said. "He's got to let this thing heal and callous over."Detroit manager Jim Leyland said the plan is for Zumaya to "rest and heal up and be ready for spring training."AP NEWS
Zumaya is a :lmao:
 
There looking like there will be any baseball played in Chicago today? I'd like to sub-out Grandy if I can but even better it'd be nice to go two days in a row without a loss. A nice change of pace.

 
my buddy called me and said sheffield charged the mount and carmona did his nolan ryan impression LOL what a tard
He should be the first one out the door this off season even if we have to swallow the contract.
He actually didn't have too bad of a 2nd half but I have no idea why his walks are so far down. It makes no sense to eat the entire contract IMO, might as well see if he's healthy next spring and then let things play out.
 
my buddy called me and said sheffield charged the mount and carmona did his nolan ryan impression LOL what a tard
He should be the first one out the door this off season even if we have to swallow the contract.
He actually didn't have too bad of a 2nd half but I have no idea why his walks are so far down. It makes no sense to eat the entire contract IMO, might as well see if he's healthy next spring and then let things play out.
Read something a month or two ago, I'll paraphrase Sheff-strike zone's bigger than it used to be-feels he has to swing at pitches he didn't used to
 
my buddy called me and said sheffield charged the mount and carmona did his nolan ryan impression LOL what a tard
He should be the first one out the door this off season even if we have to swallow the contract.
He actually didn't have too bad of a 2nd half but I have no idea why his walks are so far down. It makes no sense to eat the entire contract IMO, might as well see if he's healthy next spring and then let things play out.
Read something a month or two ago, I'll paraphrase Sheff-strike zone's bigger than it used to be-feels he has to swing at pitches he didn't used to
Sheff is such a tool..he said he will track down and get Carmona on or off the field and said "I have so much money I could care less what the league fines me"
 
I'll root for the Tigers all day long, but am I the only one that was glad to see Sheff take a bit of a beating there. I think the only baseball player I like less than Sheff is Bonds.

 
Inge will be Tigers' third baseman in '09; Guillen will move to left fieldBy JOHN LOWE • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • September 27, 2008Brandon Inge will be the Tigers’ everyday third baseman next season, and Carlos Guillen will move from third base to left field, manager Jim Leyland said Saturday.The moves appear to have been triggered by one inescapable conclusion: With his range, arm and reflexes, Inge is a brilliant third baseman, one of the best in the game. When Inge made a spectacular rally-aborting play at third base in the ninth inning in Baltimore in July, Orioles hitting coach Terry Crowley said it reminded him of a former teammate of his: Brooks Robinson, whose reputation at third base remains unsurpassed.Leyland’s decision means the Tigers are without an established No. 1 catcher for next season. Inge had been given the catcher’s job for next season when the club traded Ivan Rodriguez to the Yankees two months ago.Inge said he tried to stay professionally calm when Leyland told him last weekend that he was moving back to third."By the time he got done talking to me, I was grinning from ear to ear,” Inge said. “I’m so ready. It’s almost like I took a year’s leave, and I’m going to come back.”Inge was the Tigers’ everyday third baseman for the last three seasons before this one.Guillen played the outfield before he turned pro. He returned to left field for two games this season, totaling 17 innings. He handled six chances and didn’t make an error.“This is best for Brandon Inge and best for the team,” Leyland said. “I definitely believe Carlos will be in a comfort zone in left field because he’s been out there before. So that’s not an issue.“Brandon definitely will be more comfortable at third base, and that will help him offensively.”Asked Saturday why he loves playing third, Inge said:“For one, it’s one of the craziest positions on the field. You really have to be a little nuts to play that position. There’s not going to be too much coming at you that’s going to be easy to catch. So you have to be a little loony and go out there and be willing to put your face in front of something. It takes a little bit of being off your rocker, and I’ve been told at times I’m off that rocker.“The other thing is that it’s a game-changing position. There are so many balls hit in the third base-shortstop hole . . . the ball is going on the left side of the infield a lot. If you can cover a lot of ground at third base, you can prevent a lot of base hits.”Despite his sporadic work (49 games, 31 starts) at third base this season, Inge hadn’t committed an error there all season until Saturday. Then he dropped an eighth-inning pop-up after he served as the catcher for the first seven innings.Inge’s regaining of the third-base job caps a 12-month span of positional hop-scotching for him and Guillen.On the final weekend of last season, Leyland announced that Guillen was moving from shortstop to first base. A few months later, the Tigers acquired Miguel Cabrera, who took over Inge’s job at third and reduced Inge to a utility player available for trade.Early this season, Leyland had Cabrera and Guillen change positions. Guillen had lots of experience at third, but Cabrera had to learn first on the job during the season. Cabrera has taken to his new position so well that Leyland says he soon could be a Gold-Glove caliber first baseman.
Somebody else can start the offseason or 2009 thread. I was bad luck.....
 
DETROIT -- Tigers' pitching coach Chuck Hernandez has told those close to him that he's been fired by the Tigers. The report has not been confirmed by the Tigers, though.Before the game, when asked about the status of coaches, manager Jim Leyland said he was not ready to comment on the matter.It's also been learned that bullpen coach Jeff Jones will be replaced.AdvertisementHernandez, who was in uniform on Sunday, has been the Tigers' pitching coach three years, but with the Tigers struggling in that department this season, it had been widely speculated that his future with the team was in doubt.
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DETROIT -- Tigers' pitching coach Chuck Hernandez has told those close to him that he's been fired by the Tigers. The report has not been confirmed by the Tigers, though.Before the game, when asked about the status of coaches, manager Jim Leyland said he was not ready to comment on the matter.It's also been learned that bullpen coach Jeff Jones will be replaced.AdvertisementHernandez, who was in uniform on Sunday, has been the Tigers' pitching coach three years, but with the Tigers struggling in that department this season, it had been widely speculated that his future with the team was in doubt.
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DETROIT -- Tigers' pitching coach Chuck Hernandez has told those close to him that he's been fired by the Tigers. The report has not been confirmed by the Tigers, though.Before the game, when asked about the status of coaches, manager Jim Leyland said he was not ready to comment on the matter.It's also been learned that bullpen coach Jeff Jones will be replaced.AdvertisementHernandez, who was in uniform on Sunday, has been the Tigers' pitching coach three years, but with the Tigers struggling in that department this season, it had been widely speculated that his future with the team was in doubt.
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DETROIT -- Tigers' pitching coach Chuck Hernandez has told those close to him that he's been fired by the Tigers. The report has not been confirmed by the Tigers, though.Before the game, when asked about the status of coaches, manager Jim Leyland said he was not ready to comment on the matter.It's also been learned that bullpen coach Jeff Jones will be replaced.AdvertisementHernandez, who was in uniform on Sunday, has been the Tigers' pitching coach three years, but with the Tigers struggling in that department this season, it had been widely speculated that his future with the team was in doubt.
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DETROIT -- Tigers' pitching coach Chuck Hernandez has told those close to him that he's been fired by the Tigers. The report has not been confirmed by the Tigers, though.Before the game, when asked about the status of coaches, manager Jim Leyland said he was not ready to comment on the matter.It's also been learned that bullpen coach Jeff Jones will be replaced.AdvertisementHernandez, who was in uniform on Sunday, has been the Tigers' pitching coach three years, but with the Tigers struggling in that department this season, it had been widely speculated that his future with the team was in doubt.
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Good news, but strange timing though. Tigers still have to play the make up game today v the Sox. Hernandez is supposedly going to be in uniform for the game today even though he has already technically been fired. Tigers should have just waited a day.

 
I came back because I need to know who Greco pulls for today. I know he hates the Twinkies. Still have to pull for a Tigers win, right?

 

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