****OFFICIAL 2009 Off Season Washington Redskins Thread**** (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

Defensive end Renaldo Wynn, who agreed to return to Washington on March 16 after a 2-year absence, will officially sign his contract tomorrow if he passes his physical.

Washington Times

 

[fatness]

The NFL has finalized its performance-based pay distribution for the 2008 season and only two players received a bigger check than Redskins safety Chris Horton.

Horton earned $342,197 in PBP. Only San Diego guard Jeromey Clary ($405,859) and Arizona center Lyle Sendlein ($348,134).

Horton was one of nine Redskins to earn at least $100,000 in PBP.

The PBP program was established in 2002 and is a fund from NFL revenues to supplement salaries of players whose playing time in that season is disproportionate to their compensation. Basically, it allows players like Horton – who wasn’t expected to be a starter – a chance to earn money if he gets an in-season promotion. Horton became a starter in Week 4 and finished with 81 tackles. He made less than $400,000 during the season.

The PBP doesn’t count against a team’s salary cap.

Washington Times

 

[pablito]

The NFL has finalized its performance-based pay distribution for the 2008 season and only two players received a bigger check than Redskins safety Chris Horton.

Good for him... one Skin that definitely earned his keep last season.

 

[Marvelous]

Copied from the thread on Compensatory picks:

6. Redskins | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Washington Redskins have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 243 overall).

Good deal. Now Vinny can wait to the end of the 7th round before addressing the DL.

 

[T Bell]

Copied from the thread on Compensatory picks:

6. Redskins | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Washington Redskins have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 243 overall).

Wow, what are they going to do with five whole draft picks? I'm so excited!

 

[Dexter Manley]

Copied from the thread on Compensatory picks:

6. Redskins | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Washington Redskins have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 243 overall).

Wow, what are they going to do with five whole draft picks? I'm so excited!

Hey, look at the brightside. At least the makes up for the failed Erasmus James gamble. I'm just hoping that if one of the elite OT's doesn't fall to us @ 1.13, we trade down and acquire more picks.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I'm just hoping that if one of the elite OT's doesn't fall to us @ 1.13, we trade down and acquire more picks.

It seems to me, the closer we get to this draft, the more unlikely this becomes. I'm no draftnik, but it seems that there are a few "can't miss" type players (Jason Smith, Curry, Stafford, maybe Crabtree) and then a load of 1st round-worthy talent after that, maybe more so than in recent drafts. If my perception is accurate, teams will be more than willing to stand pat than to pay the price to move up for a what is effectively a similarly rated player. Maybe if a team falls in love with a player that drops out of the top 10 and is a big position of need something might happen, but I think the chances of that are slimmer than normal.I believe Dallas and Carolina are the only teams without 1st round picks this year and I, as of yet, don't see them trading with the 'Skins to get into the 1st.Luckily enough for the 'Skins, there are a number of quality prospects at OT, DE and LB in the top 15-20 players so, even if the 13th pick is kept, a position of need should be able to be filled.

 

[T Bell]

I still wouldn't mind taking one of the top DT's even with Haynesworth on board if the top OT's are off the board by 1.13.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Renaldo Wynn officially back with the 'Skins.

 

[dgreen]

I'm just hoping that if one of the elite OT's doesn't fall to us @ 1.13, we trade down and acquire more picks.

It seems to me, the closer we get to this draft, the more unlikely this becomes. I'm no draftnik, but it seems that there are a few "can't miss" type players (Jason Smith, Curry, Stafford, maybe Crabtree) and then a load of 1st round-worthy talent after that, maybe more so than in recent drafts. If my perception is accurate, teams will be more than willing to stand pat than to pay the price to move up for a what is effectively a similarly rated player. Maybe if a team falls in love with a player that drops out of the top 10 and is a big position of need something might happen, but I think the chances of that are slimmer than normal.

I think this is a big reason why they are working out Sanchez. They need to know how he looks so they can determine how much a team might be willing to give up to get to 13 for him. If he looks good and is available at 13, they can work the phones.

 

[Sidewinder16]

I'm just hoping that if one of the elite OT's doesn't fall to us @ 1.13, we trade down and acquire more picks.

It seems to me, the closer we get to this draft, the more unlikely this becomes. I'm no draftnik, but it seems that there are a few "can't miss" type players (Jason Smith, Curry, Stafford, maybe Crabtree) and then a load of 1st round-worthy talent after that, maybe more so than in recent drafts. If my perception is accurate, teams will be more than willing to stand pat than to pay the price to move up for a what is effectively a similarly rated player. Maybe if a team falls in love with a player that drops out of the top 10 and is a big position of need something might happen, but I think the chances of that are slimmer than normal.

I think this is a big reason why they are working out Sanchez. They need to know how he looks so they can determine how much a team might be willing to give up to get to 13 for him. If he looks good and is available at 13, they can work the phones.

Sanchez was who I was thinking about when I wrote that last sentence. Quite a few mocks currently have the Jags or 49ers taking him in the top 10, but if he slipped someone might want a shot at him. If Detroit doesn't go with Stafford at #1 they could possibly try to use their other #1 to move up and get Sanchez.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I'm just hoping that if one of the elite OT's doesn't fall to us @ 1.13, we trade down and acquire more picks.

It seems to me, the closer we get to this draft, the more unlikely this becomes. I'm no draftnik, but it seems that there are a few "can't miss" type players (Jason Smith, Curry, Stafford, maybe Crabtree) and then a load of 1st round-worthy talent after that, maybe more so than in recent drafts. If my perception is accurate, teams will be more than willing to stand pat than to pay the price to move up for a what is effectively a similarly rated player. Maybe if a team falls in love with a player that drops out of the top 10 and is a big position of need something might happen, but I think the chances of that are slimmer than normal.

I think this is a big reason why they are working out Sanchez. They need to know how he looks so they can determine how much a team might be willing to give up to get to 13 for him. If he looks good and is available at 13, they can work the phones.

Sanchez was who I was thinking about when I wrote that last sentence. Quite a few mocks currently have the Jags or 49ers taking him in the top 10, but if he slipped someone might want a shot at him. If Detroit doesn't go with Stafford at #1 they could possibly try to use their other #1 to move up and get Sanchez.

Yea, I agree with both of you guys. Sanchez (or Stafford) falling to #13 should enable the Skins to trade down with the NYJ or Detroit I would think. While I basically agree with dgreen's take above, all it takes is 1 team that covets a player and is willing to trade up to 1.13 to get him.

 

[T Bell]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

 

[dgreen]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

But if, for whatever reason, NO, HOU, and SD aren't open to trading down, then Washington becomes the trading partner for teams looking to move up. I guarantee we're willing to take less than other teams.

 

[Dexter Manley]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

I think it's dependent upon Detroit's willingness to move up and leapfrog the Jets. In that case we could play both teams off each other to get the best offer possible. Of course this is dependent upon having a good GM capable of executing such a strategy...

 

[Bizkiteer]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

Other than the fact that we are the only organization out of those that either gives up too much or doesn't get back enough in return. Better put..."We're an easy lay!"

 

[T Bell]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

Other than the fact that we are the only organization out of those that either gives up too much or doesn't get back enough in return. Better put..."We're an easy lay!"

"Wow! I am sooooooooooo drunk!"/Vinny

 

[Bizkiteer]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

Other than the fact that we are the only organization out of those that either gives up too much or doesn't get back enough in return. Better put..."We're an easy lay!"

"Wow! I am sooooooooooo drunk!"/Vinny

By the look of him , I'd say he's doing something more than drinking.

 

[fatness]

Copied from the thread on Compensatory picks:

6. Redskins | Given one compensatory pick (KFFL) The NFL announced the Washington Redskins have been given one compensatory pick in the 2009 NFL Draft. The team was given a seventh-round pick (No. 243 overall).

Good deal. Now Vinny can wait to the end of the 7th round before addressing the DL.

Punter.

 

[Marvelous]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

But if, for whatever reason, NO, HOU, and SD aren't open to trading down, then Washington becomes the trading partner for teams looking to move up. I guarantee we're willing to take less than other teams.

A disturbing but true statement

 

[T Bell]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

But if, for whatever reason, NO, HOU, and SD aren't open to trading down, then Washington becomes the trading partner for teams looking to move up. I guarantee we're willing to take less than other teams.

A disturbing but true statement

You know the dork at school with the "Kick Me" sign taped to his back? The Redskins front office got one tatooed on their back in giant block letters and they like to go shirtless a lot to show off their guns.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anthony Montgomery signs his tender. Golston hasn't signed his yet, but is still working out with the team.

Also, Mark Maske has a nice interview with Zorn from the owners meetings.

 

[buster c]

"]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/montgomery-signs-1-year-contra.html"]

Also, Mark Maske has a nice interview with Zorn from the owners meetings.

sounds a bit z-vasive:

If Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder came to you and asked if you were interested in pursuing Cutler, would you say yes?"First of all, Vinny and Dan wouldn't come to me. We would always be together on an issue. I think every coach in the National Football League would go, 'Man, what is this all about? What if Denver approached us?' But that conversation hasn't gone anywhere except 'Monday Morning Quarterback' talk."

 

[fatness]

He should be evasive about that. If the team was considering going after another QB, and failed to land him, you really don't need to look any further than Denver to see the mess that would be left.

 

[rifkin]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

I could see a possible trade with the Pats if Jenkins is available at 13. If they like him they could offer the 23rd, 58, and 89. Jenkins would probably not make it past NO at 14.

 

[Marvelous]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

But if, for whatever reason, NO, HOU, and SD aren't open to trading down, then Washington becomes the trading partner for teams looking to move up. I guarantee we're willing to take less than other teams.

The big problem with the qb trade down scenario is that many teams just let them fall. Rogers and Quinn both just kept falling. I think when the Redskins pick was up, there was lots of specualtion/hope that someone would break the bank and trade with the Redskins. They ended up taking Landry and Quinn fell to 22.

 

[T Bell]

The problem with the Sanchez/Stafford trade-down scenario is that the teams immediately following us in the draft - New Orleans, Houston and San Diego - seem unlikely to be targeting a QB with those picks. I don't see a lot of urgency to trade up with us from teams coveting those guys.

But if, for whatever reason, NO, HOU, and SD aren't open to trading down, then Washington becomes the trading partner for teams looking to move up. I guarantee we're willing to take less than other teams.

The big problem with the qb trade down scenario is that many teams just let them fall. Rogers and Quinn both just kept falling. I think when the Redskins pick was up, there was lots of specualtion/hope that someone would break the bank and trade with the Redskins. They ended up taking Landry and Quinn fell to 22.

It's not as bad as when you have a top 10 pick, but it's difficult to trade down from a first round spot just because the price is fairly steep. The good news is that the team should end up with a top OL or DL prospect if they use that pick and don't trade.

 

[Marvelous]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available were:

Phillip Merling (drafted by Miami)

Calais Campbell (Arizona)

Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)

Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

 

[T Bell]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available werehillip Merling (drafted by Miami)Calais Campbell (Arizona)Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

None of those guys were good fits (even assuming they were 2nd round values which they only marginally were IIRC) because they were either 3-4 DE's, or they were undersized 4-3 rush DE's which we've already got. I had no problem after they'd traded down out of the first round with them not drafting a DE.

 

[buster c]

He should be evasive about that. If the team was considering going after another QB, and failed to land him, you really don't need to look any further than Denver to see the mess that would be left.

I thought you said the Cutler rumors were fake.Why not come right out and say "no" if it is fake?

 

[ChuckLiddell]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available werehillip Merling (drafted by Miami)Calais Campbell (Arizona)Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

None of those guys were good fits (even assuming they were 2nd round values which they only marginally were IIRC) because they were either 3-4 DE's, or they were undersized 4-3 rush DE's which we've already got. I had no problem after they'd traded down out of the first round with them not drafting a DE.

Merling dropped into Miami's lap. He was projected as a borderline 1st round pick. He had a very nice season, and looks like he will start for the Fins this season as a DE in a 3-4. The staff seems high on him.

 

[T Bell]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available werehillip Merling (drafted by Miami)Calais Campbell (Arizona)Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

None of those guys were good fits (even assuming they were 2nd round values which they only marginally were IIRC) because they were either 3-4 DE's, or they were undersized 4-3 rush DE's which we've already got. I had no problem after they'd traded down out of the first round with them not drafting a DE.

Merling dropped into Miami's lap. He was projected as a borderline 1st round pick. He had a very nice season, and looks like he will start for the Fins this season as a DE in a 3-4. The staff seems high on him.

You're right about Merling's draft value now that my memory is coming back on this. Still, he's a 3-4 DE which wouldn't fit well in the 'Skins' scheme.

 

[Marvelous]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available werehillip Merling (drafted by Miami)Calais Campbell (Arizona)Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

None of those guys were good fits (even assuming they were 2nd round values which they only marginally were IIRC) because they were either 3-4 DE's, or they were undersized 4-3 rush DE's which we've already got. I had no problem after they'd traded down out of the first round with them not drafting a DE.

Merling dropped into Miami's lap. He was projected as a borderline 1st round pick. He had a very nice season, and looks like he will start for the Fins this season as a DE in a 3-4. The staff seems high on him.

You're right about Merling's draft value now that my memory is coming back on this. Still, he's a 3-4 DE which wouldn't fit well in the 'Skins' scheme.

If they are all poor fits, it is good for the Redskins to stay away from them. I remember some people saying some of them were poor fits during or just after the draft. Too bad they did not consider the fit before they traded for Jason Taylor.

 

[T Bell]

One question: Many people thought the Redskins should have drafted DE in the 2nd round last year. The players available were:

Phillip Merling (drafted by Miami)

Calais Campbell (Arizona)

Quentin Groves (Jacksonville)

Does anyone know how any of these guys did last year?

None of those guys were good fits (even assuming they were 2nd round values which they only marginally were IIRC) because they were either 3-4 DE's, or they were undersized 4-3 rush DE's which we've already got. I had no problem after they'd traded down out of the first round with them not drafting a DE.

Merling dropped into Miami's lap. He was projected as a borderline 1st round pick. He had a very nice season, and looks like he will start for the Fins this season as a DE in a 3-4. The staff seems high on him.

You're right about Merling's draft value now that my memory is coming back on this. Still, he's a 3-4 DE which wouldn't fit well in the 'Skins' scheme.

If they are all poor fits, it is good for the Redskins to stay away from them. I remember some people saying some of them were poor fits during or just after the draft. Too bad they did not consider the fit before they traded for Jason Taylor.

That's what made that trade so mystifying, and so frustrating to those of us who were happy that the team seemed to be turning the corner under newly-named GM Vinny Cerrato and using the draft as a primary way to build.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Ugh. This is why LaCanfora rubs me the wrong way. Yesterday he posted the following critique of Devin Thomas:

Thomas was the kind of pick that, according to scouts, could either be a home run if he matured, or a strikeout. The fact that he did not show for the start of voluntary offseason work last week could cast another shadow over the kid and fuel the coaching staff's healthy skepticism. He needs to come to Redskins Park ready and eager to work all day, coming to grips with the fact that nothing he did in college matters now. He's a guy who, on pure merit and production alone last year, was not an NFL-caliber wide receiver and inspired no confidence from his teammates. He must focus on learning the playbook and route running as well as improving his work ethic and attitude.

Maybe he will turn it around. Unlike Kelly, Thomas has the power to fix his problems. If he does get on the field more often, he would not be a traditional No. 3, as Antwaan Randle El would move back to the slot. Thomas is a speed guy, an outside burner in the mold of Brandon Lloyd. He is a vertical threat to stretch things, open it up underneath, take some heat off Santana Moss as the only real deep guy on the roster.

The bolded parts had me scratching my head a little bit, because 2 weeks ago Terl did a piece on his blog about Thomas visiting a fan in Sterling. I also recalled reading or hearing somewhere that Thomas had a house in the area and had stuck around to do his offseason stuff at Redskins Park. The impression JLC was giving, that Thomas was some kind of young punk who still doesn't get what it takes to succeed in the NFL and therefore would probably never amount to anything, just didn't jive with anything else I'd heard.Well, lo and behold, today JLC decides to slip this nugget into his blog piece on Thomas:

Thomas had been working out at Redskins Park prior to the official start of offseason workouts, according to team officials, and notified the team he would miss the start last week.

According to Thomas, he missed the first days of workouts for personal reasons and returned to Redskins Park late last week.

Of course, there is no explanation of the discrepancy. So, is Thomas an immature prima donna who doesn't want to work to improve in the NFL, or is he a guy who has stayed in town to stay close to coaches and trainers instead of disappearing to do his own thing, and had the decent sense (maturity?) to inform his coaches when a personal issue would cause him to miss a few voluntary workouts (again, let's not forget that he has already voluntarily worked out at the team facility all offseason)?

 

[T Bell]

Ugh. This is why LaCanfora rubs me the wrong way. Yesterday he posted the following critique of Devin Thomas:

Thomas was the kind of pick that, according to scouts, could either be a home run if he matured, or a strikeout. The fact that he did not show for the start of voluntary offseason work last week could cast another shadow over the kid and fuel the coaching staff's healthy skepticism. He needs to come to Redskins Park ready and eager to work all day, coming to grips with the fact that nothing he did in college matters now. He's a guy who, on pure merit and production alone last year, was not an NFL-caliber wide receiver and inspired no confidence from his teammates. He must focus on learning the playbook and route running as well as improving his work ethic and attitude.

Maybe he will turn it around. Unlike Kelly, Thomas has the power to fix his problems. If he does get on the field more often, he would not be a traditional No. 3, as Antwaan Randle El would move back to the slot. Thomas is a speed guy, an outside burner in the mold of Brandon Lloyd. He is a vertical threat to stretch things, open it up underneath, take some heat off Santana Moss as the only real deep guy on the roster.

The bolded parts had me scratching my head a little bit, because 2 weeks ago Terl did a piece on his blog about Thomas visiting a fan in Sterling. I also recalled reading or hearing somewhere that Thomas had a house in the area and had stuck around to do his offseason stuff at Redskins Park. The impression JLC was giving, that Thomas was some kind of young punk who still doesn't get what it takes to succeed in the NFL and therefore would probably never amount to anything, just didn't jive with anything else I'd heard.Well, lo and behold, today JLC decides to slip this nugget into his blog piece on Thomas:

Thomas had been working out at Redskins Park prior to the official start of offseason workouts, according to team officials, and notified the team he would miss the start last week.

According to Thomas, he missed the first days of workouts for personal reasons and returned to Redskins Park late last week.

Of course, there is no explanation of the discrepancy. So, is Thomas an immature prima donna who doesn't want to work to improve in the NFL, or is he a guy who has stayed in town to stay close to coaches and trainers instead of disappearing to do his own thing, and had the decent sense (maturity?) to inform his coaches when a personal issue would cause him to miss a few voluntary workouts (again, let's not forget that he has already voluntarily worked out at the team facility all offseason)?

Today's piece was written by Paul Tenorio. The rest of your points remain valid, however, regarding the discrepancies.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Today's piece was written by Paul Tenorio. The rest of your points remain valid, however, regarding the discrepancies.

Ah. Thanks for catching that. I'm not used to so many other contributors on that blog, such that I still think of it as "LaCanfora's Blog".Tenorio still wrote "...his failure to show up for the start of offseason workouts last week raised another red flag." I'm inclined to believe that the only people with red flags going up were the WaPo staff. I'm guessing the people with actual knowledge of the situation (and anyone who bothered to look deeper than a list of player names present at the voluntary workouts) don't have any problems with Thomas' offseason work ethic and attitude.

 

[Bizkiteer]

As my Father used to always say..."Take it upstairs or outside!"

 

[Sebowski]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/m...ignal-of-trust/

Campbell: I want to stay with Redskins

Amid rumors, quarterback looking for a signal of trust

Ryan O'Halloran

Originally published 04:45 a.m., March 26, 2009, updated 11:01 a.m., March 26, 2009

Knowing full well his on-field actions and not off-field words will determine his future as the Washington Redskins' quarterback, Jason Campbell nonetheless remains unequivocal in his desire to stay with the franchise that drafted him four years ago.

But do the Redskins, despite their purported pursuit of Denver's Jay Cutler and the fact they are working out Southern California's Mark Sanchez, want Campbell?

"That's up to them," he said after a workout Tuesday at Redskin Park. "I definitely want to stay here. I like the D.C. area, and I like the fan support. I do think we're a team that can win in the near future, and I do think we're a team whose turn it will be to rip off wins year after year after year.

"Hopefully I can do things so they can know I'm their guy and I can take us where they want to go. I would like to get to the point where I know they really trust me."

Campbell, 16-20 since taking over the starting job in November 2006, enters the final season of his five-year contract with a salary cap number of $3.89 million. Unlike many other teams, the Redskins have adopted a wait-and-see attitude instead of locking up their young passer.

Campbell will be an unrestricted free agent in 2011, but if the owners and NFL Players Association don't extend the current collective bargaining agreement, he will be a restricted free agent (players will need six years of service to be unrestricted) and the Redskins could match any contract offer.



"I don't have a new contract, but I can't worry about it," he said. "I'll let my agent [Joel Segal] and the media worry about it. The only thing I can do is prepare to have my best season."

Even teams with established quarterbacks work out prospects, so Campbell shouldn't be alarmed that Sanchez is coming to town. And Campbell brushed off any concern about the Cutler rumors, which the Redskins denied.

"I smiled about it and said, 'Here we go again,' " Campbell said. "It went over my head. It's March, and people want things to talk about. Everybody's into the quarterback and anything that's going on with him.

"I felt like I had good numbers last year," Campbell added. "We weren't a straight-up passing team - they passed more in Denver. In the first half, when our guys were healthy, we were rolling, and the only thing stopping us was us. A lot of things unfolded in the second that didn't go our way. I feel I can be a top quarterback in the league, so that talk didn't bother me at all."

No question that right now I would rather have Cutler than JC throwing the ball, but can anyone see Cutler saying some of these things? I have always been a JC supporter (was also a Ramsey one though ). I love his attitude. Really hopes he succeeds for more than just bringing the Skins points and wins.

 

[Ripleys]

I too like Campbell's attitude, but I don't know how he can think he had good numbers last year. Most NFL QBs are judged my TDs and Yards, and he was extremely low in both categories. I think the Skins are smart for not resigning him yet. Let him prove he can throw from 250-300+ yards and 2-3+ TDs each week first.

 

[Sebowski]

Our boy Vinny was on with Doc today.

derekc4 at Extreme posted a recap:

http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=283851

Doc Walker says he is against group decisions, because difficult to point blame. He wants to see what vinny can do on his own, cuz he was part of great Notre Dame and 49ers team.

Cerrato says he prefers group decisions when you have good members of the group like Morocco Brown and Scott Campbell.

Vinny says due to salary cap you have to utilize draft.

Says he asked Fletcher, other players, and the coaches if they wanted D Hall back. Everyone said yes. So he brought him back. Says he was playmaker in college, hardworker and studier here.

Doc is good and better now than he was when he got the big contract in 2006. Says lost the baby fat like 5 times, which I think is weird.

Says he'd still trade for Jason Taylor, because he was just two years removed from defense player of the year. And the fact we lost Daniels in the first drill.

Talks about how much Albert is different from Dana (Stubblefield). Dana got paid, but Albert wants to be a hall of famer, one of the greatest ever.

Vinny says Orakpo won't be there at 13.

Doc Walker likes Andre Smith.

Vinny says Andre Smith is a candidate at 13. He says he made mistakes, but the tape doesn't lie. Smith is pretty good, doesn't think Smith will be there at 13.

Scouts come back Sunday and meet constantly until the draft and rank the board.

After the meetings, coaches talk with their friends (I guess college coaches, he uses the words friends) and ask how the players are.

"Tell a story" tape shows best and worst of players, to show what they can and can't do. Scott will ask people the coach's opinions after these tapes.

We liked Eddie Royal, but we needed bigger guys. We didn't want another little guy, we wanted bigger. That's why we went in that direction. In the WCO, we needed a bigger presence.

Rinehart didnt get a lot of snaps until the last couple weeks, where Bugel says he improved a lot. Fabini stepped in on Wednesdays when Kendall didn't practice. It takes time for development. Rinehart is gonna play guard and Heyer is a right tackle. He is not a left tackle. Needs to work on strength and fundamentals, and bend knees. Weighs 330 looks good, really long arms.

Inside the 40 suisham was 90%, outside he struggled. He was must more consistent with Frost as hold than Plackemeier. Needs to improve long distance kicking.

Brooks did very well in preseason, but during the season he couldn't handle it. Plackemeier was too inconsistent to keep. Always an open competition.

We cover well and return well.Rock is good. Gotta improve on punt returns. Picked up Dorsey, expects good things. Anthony Aldridge ran 4.34 once and 4.22 on personal day.

'Veteran minimum only' on our door for free agents.

Doc asks is El put at returner? Vinny says he is gonna have the opportunity.

Doc wants more moss as returner, because ARE doesn't act like he wants to do it. Vinny says Danny Smith will put him back there more. Once or twice a game. Santana loves returning punts.

Doc says running game was great 1st half. Vinny says CP is 1500 yard rusher. Betts has great hands. Rock doesn't play much there. New two guys are smaller 4.3 4.2 Sproles-type guys. We'll see how they compete.

How are ties on the draft board broken? Last year at 21, dan says who you taking? We'll take this if it's there, but we traded back. Someone has to say it at the end. Always asks the coach first. Dan doesn't give input, he just asks because he writes the checks. Why him, why not him? Said Jerod Mayo was first choice last year.

Doc likes Zorn, work ethic and played in the league. Vinny says teams fought for Zorn. Coaches have learned a lot, and have studied what they have done different from 1st half in 2nd half. He expects a lot of improvements

Doc asks what happens to DT, MK, and FD? Vinny says he told them that the offense improving is on their shoulders. Says MK's knee looks great and he'll be full go during June. He was a beast when healthy. DT needs to work on fundamentals and running routes. FD says he got the clock figured out. FD really wants to be good, it's important.

Lots of commercials.

 

[fatness]

Maybe there's some hope for Devin Thomas.

Matt Terl's blog

The offseason conditioning program didn't start out well for Devin Thomas, as a planned absence from the program's first day somehow took on a life of its own in media reports, leading to a post at Fanhouse with the admonishing headline "Redskins' Devin Thomas Should Show Up for Voluntary Workouts". This wouldn't be particularly significant, except that it was posted on Wednesday of this week, seven or eight days after Thomas had actually shown up.

On reports that he came in last season out of shape:

Thomas: "When it really boils down to it, the NFL is a different shape you've gotta be in. That's point blank, period. I felt like coming in I was in good shape, you know, I was in better shape than I'd normally be in, but for the NFL, I probably wasn't ready. I probably needed to do more.

"And, you know, that showed in not being able to pass the conditioning test. But that's something I had to learn with that, and I definitely learned that, like, 'Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra.'

"And I think that played a role in it. Then the preseason came and I pulled a hammy, but that was just due to working hard in the practices and overexerting myself.

On this year's conditioning test:

Thomas: "Oh, man, I'm down here with John [Hastings], our weight room guy, all the time, just getting ready for it, whatever it is. If it's the same test or not, I'm gonna make sure I'm ready for it."

At least he showed up early, is working, and is saying the right things. I have to admit this part cracks me up: "Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra."

 

[fatness]

I too like Campbell's attitude, but I don't know how he can think he had good numbers last year.

If you remember, 6 or 8 weeks into the season praise of Campbell was widespread, and someone (Mortensen? Jaworski?) was talking about him as an MVP candidate. It was the O-line breakdown where his performance began to go significantly downhill.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Phillip Daniels is ready to sign.

Just got off the phone with Phillip Daniels, who told me that he's going to re-sign with the Redskins within a week.

"We're working something out," Daniels said. "I'll be a Redskin this year."

Daniels, who turned 36 last month, had his contract voided by the Redskins in a cost-cutting move in the days leading up to the start of the free agent signing period. His new one-year deal will be for the 10-year veteran minimum of $845,000 but will count just $510,000 on the salary cap, as is also the case for fellow wise old heads Renaldo Wynn and Ethan Albright.

"With my age and my injury, I understand where the Redskins are coming from," said Daniels, who missed all of last season after tearing two knee ligaments on the opening snap of training camp.

Daniels' agent, Hadley Engelhard, heard from the Broncos, Titans and Patriots, but they all wanted to wait until after the draft to sign him. So with the money being equal, it was either the Redskins or retirement.

"My son's going to be in 11th grade this fall, so I had to decide whether I wanted to be with him or keep playing," Daniels said. "I decided that I didn't want to go out with that injury. I've been with coach [Greg] Blache for 10 years. I know the system so well. The coaches all told me they want me back. I'm so close to so many of the guys. And now Renaldo's back. I don't know who's going to start. I don't mind being a backup. I just want to win a championship."

 

[Ripleys]

Daniels attitude is refreshing

 

[fatness]

Daniels attitude is refreshing

It is. He's a good locker room guy. He'll probably beat out Wynn, too.

 

[Sebowski]

Maybe there's some hope for Devin Thomas.

Matt Terl's blog

The offseason conditioning program didn't start out well for Devin Thomas, as a planned absence from the program's first day somehow took on a life of its own in media reports, leading to a post at Fanhouse with the admonishing headline "Redskins' Devin Thomas Should Show Up for Voluntary Workouts". This wouldn't be particularly significant, except that it was posted on Wednesday of this week, seven or eight days after Thomas had actually shown up.

On reports that he came in last season out of shape:

Thomas: "When it really boils down to it, the NFL is a different shape you've gotta be in. That's point blank, period. I felt like coming in I was in good shape, you know, I was in better shape than I'd normally be in, but for the NFL, I probably wasn't ready. I probably needed to do more.

"And, you know, that showed in not being able to pass the conditioning test. But that's something I had to learn with that, and I definitely learned that, like, 'Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra.'

"And I think that played a role in it. Then the preseason came and I pulled a hammy, but that was just due to working hard in the practices and overexerting myself.

On this year's conditioning test:

Thomas: "Oh, man, I'm down here with John [Hastings], our weight room guy, all the time, just getting ready for it, whatever it is. If it's the same test or not, I'm gonna make sure I'm ready for it."

At least he showed up early, is working, and is saying the right things. I have to admit this part cracks me up: "Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra."

There was always hope for Thomas. These voluntary workout stories get completely overblown.

 

[T Bell]

Maybe there's some hope for Devin Thomas.

Matt Terl's blog

The offseason conditioning program didn't start out well for Devin Thomas, as a planned absence from the program's first day somehow took on a life of its own in media reports, leading to a post at Fanhouse with the admonishing headline "Redskins' Devin Thomas Should Show Up for Voluntary Workouts". This wouldn't be particularly significant, except that it was posted on Wednesday of this week, seven or eight days after Thomas had actually shown up.

On reports that he came in last season out of shape:

Thomas: "When it really boils down to it, the NFL is a different shape you've gotta be in. That's point blank, period. I felt like coming in I was in good shape, you know, I was in better shape than I'd normally be in, but for the NFL, I probably wasn't ready. I probably needed to do more.

"And, you know, that showed in not being able to pass the conditioning test. But that's something I had to learn with that, and I definitely learned that, like, 'Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra.'

"And I think that played a role in it. Then the preseason came and I pulled a hammy, but that was just due to working hard in the practices and overexerting myself.

On this year's conditioning test:

Thomas: "Oh, man, I'm down here with John [Hastings], our weight room guy, all the time, just getting ready for it, whatever it is. If it's the same test or not, I'm gonna make sure I'm ready for it."

At least he showed up early, is working, and is saying the right things. I have to admit this part cracks me up: "Man, I've gotta do more, like even extra."

There was always hope for Thomas. These voluntary workout stories get completely overblown.

Not always, but definitely in this case. Where there's smoke there's fire. It's clear that most of the reports were correct about him - he was not in NFL shape when he showed up; his ability to absorb the offense was slow; he did miss the first workout, though that ended up being an aberration for his offseason. He at least is being open about his shortcomings and seems to be taking the right steps to correct them. If he ends up making strides as a WR and Kelly stays healthy, we may have something at WR this year.

 

[T Bell]

I too like Campbell's attitude, but I don't know how he can think he had good numbers last year.

If you remember, 6 or 8 weeks into the season praise of Campbell was widespread, and someone (Mortensen? Jaworski?) was talking about him as an MVP candidate. It was the O-line breakdown where his performance began to go significantly downhill.

For an organization that for so long has prided itself on its line play, we sure have a lot of fans who seem to underestimate the impact of the line's collapse later in the year on, well, everything. Campbell's play was good. It wasn't great; it wasn't very good. But it was good. He still needs to keep improving. Portis was outstanding early, but then hit a wall. All of this happened around the same time. It's not hard to figure out the root cause of the rather dramatic decline of that offense.

Daniels attitude is refreshing

It is. He's a good locker room guy. He'll probably beat out Wynn, too.

I was surprised they brought Wynn back. I thought Wynn was pretty much washed up when he left. It's not a good statement about our talent level and depth at DE. Either way, I like both him and Daniels.

 

[Sebowski]

I too like Campbell's attitude, but I don't know how he can think he had good numbers last year.

If you remember, 6 or 8 weeks into the season praise of Campbell was widespread, and someone (Mortensen? Jaworski?) was talking about him as an MVP candidate. It was the O-line breakdown where his performance began to go significantly downhill.

For an organization that for so long has prided itself on its line play, we sure have a lot of fans who seem to underestimate the impact of the line's collapse later in the year on, well, everything. Campbell's play was good. It wasn't great; it wasn't very good. But it was good. He still needs to keep improving. Portis was outstanding early, but then hit a wall. All of this happened around the same time. It's not hard to figure out the root cause of the rather dramatic decline of that offense.

Yeah, I thought this was common knowledge. Porits was walking into the endzone repeatedly early then getting stuffed at or behind the line late. I am very excited to have Dock back. Now Heyer needs to step up, Thomas needs to stay healthy, and Rabach needs to put together a solid full year. I thick having Dock next to him instead of Kendall will help that.