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****OFFICIAL 2009 Off Season Washington Redskins Thread**** (2 Viewers)

I am really happy with this pick. All week I was threatening to change teams if they took Sanchez. Orakpo has top-10 talent, he might be the best end in the draft, and he's a great fit for the Skins.

 
Sorry Fatness. Know you have been praying for some O-line help for a long time. Should be some decent talent remaining for us in the third.

 
Love the Orakpo pick!!! :confused: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Oher was not consistent and I think Orakpo has game changing abilty. Not only is he talented, he's got a great head on his shoulders. Great pick that can play SLB or LDE!!!

 
great pick for the Skins! I can't believe they FINALLY drafted a pass rusher!!! Our D is gonna be VERY VERY good next year. Now if we could just get Jason to throw 2 or 3 TDs a game, we'd be a contender.

 
Does Duke Washington fall to us? (however his wonderlick tests scares me.)

I also like A.Q. Shipley © but we really need a tackle

Also would be happy with Kraig Urbik (OT)

 
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I heard Vinny on ESPN radio a little while ago. He said they started making calls to every team starting at 9, trying to trade up to get Orakpo but nobody was interested in trading.

He was surprised and glad that Orakpo fell to them.

 
Kenlin said:
I heard Vinny on ESPN radio a little while ago. He said they started making calls to every team starting at 9, trying to trade up to get Orakpo but nobody was interested in trading.He was surprised and glad that Orakpo fell to them.
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So the Sanchez thing was just a ploy to motivate Jason Campbell?
 
nittanylion said:
Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.
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Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.
 
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Sidewinder16 said:
nittanylion said:
Plain and simple, that's the brutal truth about Colt.
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Since this was posted before the big Friday radio interview, what's your take on Zorn's comments on Brennan?Zorn was gushing over Brennan. And Zorn hasn't been one to shy away from criticism or from showing his pessimism, and he's always come across as giving his honest opinions. I was just curious as to why you think there is such a discrepancy in the outlooks.
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I'm curious to hear this as well. I've always been higher on Brennan, always thought he would be a fine career backup to have, with a celing of a low tier starter.
 
Yamato said:
Trade next years #1 to get Oher?
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When I saw the patriots on the clock I knew they would be willing to trade...then the Ravens do it. ugh. ...and I've seen it all on extremeskins now. Vinny is getting love for yesterday's pick and all of the Sanchez rumors. Excuse me for being skeptical, but I'm not buying that horse **** for a minute.
 
TankRizzo said:
Yamato said:
Trade next years #1 to get Oher?
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When I saw the patriots on the clock I knew they would be willing to trade...then the Ravens do it. ugh. ...and I've seen it all on extremeskins now. Vinny is getting love for yesterday's pick and all of the Sanchez rumors. Excuse me for being skeptical, but I'm not buying that horse **** for a minute.
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There's certainly some fence-mending going on with Campbell after the fact, but I do suspect that the trade-up-for-Sanchez scenario was overstated, especially given that the team was unwilling to part with an additional 1st rounder. How close could they have been to actually trading?
 
fatness said:
T Bell said:
This looks like a poor pick, that fails both under the need and BPA metrics. WTF?
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It falls under "I guess Tryon will be a bust".Next year we may have an "I guess Barnes will be a bust" pick.
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It's always nice to learn that you can replace the UDFA (Leigh Torrence) who ably filled your special teams and nickel/dime CB role and who you stupidly cut last year for the low, low, bargain basement price of a 3rd rounder (who you could likely have drafted a round or two later). It restores my faith in this team. :wall:If they didn't like the OL's or the LB's on the board here, then they should have traded down. As we're seeing, there are plenty of teams that are willing to move up to nab guys. This was really stupid.
 
JLC and Jason Reid

Connect the dots.

Orakpo was the highest-rated defensive player on the Redskins' draft board, and he will be expected to make an immediate impact for a defense that had only 24 sacks last season -- tying for 28th in the 32-team league.
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There were "three or four guys" still on the board at 13, Coach Jim Zorn said, that intrigued the Redskins, but Orakpo was an easy pick from the bunch. Cerrato said once Sanchez was gone he had spent an hour trying to trade up to ensure he could get Orakpo, including calling Denver, which picked one selection ahead of the Redskins at No. 12. Orakpo graded as a top-five selection on Washington's draft board, Cerrato said, and the team wasted little of its 10-minute allotment in selecting him.
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4 of their top 5 rated players were offensive players.
 
From the same article:

With some of the other teams that scouted Orakpo heavily -- such as the Browns and Denver Broncos -- either trading away their first pick or using it to select an offensive player, other league executives were not as surprised Orakpo was still on the board when the Redskins were on the clock. Some wonder whether he will project to be an impact player, citing concerns about his knee injuries and ability to defend the run.
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fatness said:
JLC and Jason Reid

Connect the dots.

Orakpo was the highest-rated defensive player on the Redskins' draft board, and he will be expected to make an immediate impact for a defense that had only 24 sacks last season -- tying for 28th in the 32-team league.
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There were "three or four guys" still on the board at 13, Coach Jim Zorn said, that intrigued the Redskins, but Orakpo was an easy pick from the bunch. Cerrato said once Sanchez was gone he had spent an hour trying to trade up to ensure he could get Orakpo, including calling Denver, which picked one selection ahead of the Redskins at No. 12. Orakpo graded as a top-five selection on Washington's draft board, Cerrato said, and the team wasted little of its 10-minute allotment in selecting him.
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4 of their top 5 rated players were offensive players.
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So Oher . . . and who else? Maclin? Freeman? Pettigrew? One of the RB's?
 
The Redskins have four selections today on the second day of the NFL draft, with Vinny Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations, hoping to add more.
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and
Cerrato said that in most drafts there are starters to be found, and pointed to ESPN draft expert Mel Kiper Jr. as someone who agrees.

"My buddy Mel says there's players in every round," Cerrato said. "We've just got to find them."
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From the guy driving the bus.
 
About Kevin Barnes:

With the 80th pick overall (and a third-rounder), the Skins take a local kid, who can help them with the mix of guys fighting for a nickel corner spot. Justin Tryon has a ways to go and is very slight, while Fred Smoot is coming off a poor season and could be a year away from departing.

The Redskins, as I reported, were trying to move down, including dropping all the way out of the third round if the price was right, according to sources.

Got a quick scouting report on Barnes, who is listed as 6-1, 188, according to one scout: "He's a slim, fast kid. We were worrying about him being physical enough."
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Ouch

 
:hot:

Link to a hit by Barnes

After the game, Best said it was probably the hardest he has ever been hit in his life and that he had trouble breathing the rest of the game. Asked if he felt bad for Best, Barnes said: "He's not permanently hurt, so I'm fine with that. Had he died or something, I'd have felt bad, but he'll probably be playing next week."...

Barnes said the widespread interest is in the vomit, not the tackle. Dewey Hammond, an Emeryville, Calif., resident who linked the video to his blog, Yardbarker, said: "No one is interested in the actual hit. Puking up something that looks radioactive doesn't happen every weekend, unless maybe you are a sophomore in college. Vicious hits are old hat."
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Thank you Jets

Orakpo wouldn't have been the Redskins' choice had Cerrato and owner Dan Snyder been able to move up enough to select Sanchez, whom Snyder grew infatuated with during the pre-draft process.

Cerrato acknowledged a pursuit of Sanchez, who went fifth to the New York Jets. The Jets traded their first- and second-round picks and three players to Cleveland to move up. The Redskins didn't have a second-round pick and nowhere near the young and inexpensive players attractive to Browns coach Eric Mangini, who coached the Jets the previous three years.
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Vinnie's press conference last night

On what separates Brian Orakpo from the other defensive ends in the draft:

"I think the speed. I think he has explosive takeoff, explosive speed and his ability to get the corner. He can bend that corner once he gets around the tackle, he doesn't take extra steps. I had a long talk with Mack Brown the other day. I called him about Brian [Orakpo]. Mack was my coach in college. He says the thing about [brian] is he is a tremendous worker and all those things, but he is a solid, great guy. He says he does not know how he will replace [brian] in the locker room with leadership. He said [brian] is a leader on the field and a leader in the locker room with the way he talks to the team. I think we got a class guy. We had Brian in the night of the Joe Gibbs [event]. We had dinner at the Ritz with he, [b.J.] Raji and Tyson Jackson all there. Classy, classy guy. We feel he will fit well in the locker room. He is a Redskin type of guy. He had all of the qualities that we wanted in a player."

On whether he talked with any teams about trading up to select quarterback Mark Sanchez:

"We made a couple of calls, but it was too expensive."

On whether Jason Campbell will be the starting quarterback:

"Jason was always going to be the starter."

On what the Redskins would have done if defensive end Brian Orakpo would have been selected before No. 13:

"I had two teams that wanted to trade up. It wasn't going to be too far that we were going to have to trade. We would have looked to trade down."
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What did the offense average the last 8 games...12 points per game. Skins had the 4th best defense last year yet they are still going after defense. I thought I heard Zorn say Campbell had to make quicker decisions this year. He has to when the O-line is getting pushed back on their arses. Maybe they can get OT Murtha...he's a project but he's smart and atheletic...and better than any O-lineman they have gotten yet! :goodposting:

 
T Bell said:
fatness said:
JLC and Jason Reid

Connect the dots.

Orakpo was the highest-rated defensive player on the Redskins' draft board, and he will be expected to make an immediate impact for a defense that had only 24 sacks last season -- tying for 28th in the 32-team league.
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There were "three or four guys" still on the board at 13, Coach Jim Zorn said, that intrigued the Redskins, but Orakpo was an easy pick from the bunch. Cerrato said once Sanchez was gone he had spent an hour trying to trade up to ensure he could get Orakpo, including calling Denver, which picked one selection ahead of the Redskins at No. 12. Orakpo graded as a top-five selection on Washington's draft board, Cerrato said, and the team wasted little of its 10-minute allotment in selecting him.
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4 of their top 5 rated players were offensive players.
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So Oher . . . and who else? Maclin? Freeman? Pettigrew? One of the RB's?
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I would hope at least two of the tackles (most likely Smith and Monroe) plus Sanchez and Crabtree were the other 4.
 
Sidewinder16 said:
T Bell said:
fatness said:
JLC and Jason Reid

Connect the dots.

Orakpo was the highest-rated defensive player on the Redskins' draft board, and he will be expected to make an immediate impact for a defense that had only 24 sacks last season -- tying for 28th in the 32-team league.
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There were "three or four guys" still on the board at 13, Coach Jim Zorn said, that intrigued the Redskins, but Orakpo was an easy pick from the bunch. Cerrato said once Sanchez was gone he had spent an hour trying to trade up to ensure he could get Orakpo, including calling Denver, which picked one selection ahead of the Redskins at No. 12. Orakpo graded as a top-five selection on Washington's draft board, Cerrato said, and the team wasted little of its 10-minute allotment in selecting him.
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4 of their top 5 rated players were offensive players.
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So Oher . . . and who else? Maclin? Freeman? Pettigrew? One of the RB's?
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I would hope at least two of the tackles (most likely Smith and Monroe) plus Sanchez and Crabtree were the other 4.
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I believe the assumption was who would be available at 1.13 if Orapko had gone earlier, so you can't assume all (or perhaps even any) of those guys made that list.
 
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