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***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

- The forced fumble and return td by Osi when JC failed to step up in the pocket was even worse than I orginally thought. JC had about 4 seconds before being stripped by Osi. And the oline did a textbook job of pass blocking. They basically parted the red sea for him to be able to step up in the pocket. Huge blunder by Campbell there.
Campbell has traditionally shown pretty good pocket presence, which made that all the more frustrating. I've noted here before that he's excellent in the red zone in buying time by sidestepping, usually to his right, and finding receivers. I think he pulled a Roethilsberger there by trying to hard to look downfield to make a a play, and simply taking too long to do that. Even worse, all he needed to to was take a step up into the pocket because the pass blocking was actually very good on that play - there was no pressure up the middle, and both OT's had forced their DE's upfield and wide. It's good news/bad news. Campbell is definitely trying to take shots downfield, which I like. He needs to do that and not play it safe all the time. He needs, however, to balance that better with his responsibility to avoid negative plays.
Campbell has said he was looking deep to a couple receivers and was just about to check down to Sellers on that play. He simply took too long to get to that decision (and held the ball way too low). For most of the game, though, he was getting to his second or third options quickly; that's one reason why Cooley and ARE did so well. For whatever reason, he didn't on that play.
 
Wow. Set aside some time to read this one. It's a NY Times article about Jim Zorn, written last week by a guy who also writes for ESPN insider: Link

This is a very good article.

Zorn was initially hired as the Redskins’ offensive coordinator before being given the head coaching job when Steve Spagnuolo reportedly turned Washington down. Zorn won that job in part because his aggressive play-calling pedigree would suggest that he would use a go-for-broke game plan.
The thought was that Zorn would come out of the game-plan gates firing away, but that didn’t happen in Week 1. The Giants deserve a lot of credit for shutting down Washington, but the Skins were so conservative that Jason Campbell reportedly decided to go to Zorn and said: Look, you’ve got to relax and trust us out there.

Zorn didn’t exactly decide to be more aggressive. What he did was start to put more responsibility on Campbell’s shoulders. He gave him more leeway to call huddles and even had Campbell changing protections for the first time.

I also think he put the onus of whether or not to throw downfield on Campbell’s head. I say this because of multiple comments I heard on broadcasts in which the announcers talked about Zorn being able to call for a downfield pass and have Campbell not throw it if the play wasn’t there.
it would pro-rate to 104 vertical pass attempts for the season. To put some perspective on that statistic, consider that no full-time starting quarterback outside of Washington had a total of fewer than 138 vertical attempts in 2008. It is an incredibly low number.

The combination of these two metrics say that Zorn told Campbell not to go deep unless the play was open, and Campbell did exactly that. He didn’t go downfield often, but when he did, he was incredibly successful.
Campbell also didn’t have problems avoiding mistakes; he had zero bad decisions in the first six weeks of the season. I cannot stress enough how rare it is to go that many games without a single bad decision. It is a major part of why the Redskins didn’t have a turnover until their 344th play of the year.

It also says that the offense should have been able to take more chances and put the ball in the air with greater frequency.
The odd part is that Redskins management didn’t seem to think Zorn was the problem. They focused their efforts on trying to replace Campbell even though Campbell was, according to a Week 9 comment by “Monday Night Football commentator” and tape guru nonpareil Ron Jaworski, the MVP of the first half of the 2008 season.
 
Offense

Total Offense – 21st

Passing – 20th

Rushing – 19th

Scoring – 20th

Touchdowns 14th (tied w/ 7 others)

Defense

Total Defense – 21st

Passing – 21st

Rushing – 22nd

Scoring – 20th

Tackles – 6th (tied w/ 1 other)

Interceptions – 9th (tied w/ 12 others)

 
Jason Campbell

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest."
 
Can I ask an honest question to the Redskin fans? Does everyone feel Jason Campbell is really the best option for the Skins?I watched him all through the SEC and he was average at best, then he had an above average Senior season and ends up vaulting higher in the draft.To me he is the reason the Skins are being held back. I'm not trying to bash on him, but I just don't see him as a quality NFL starting QB. Quality back up yes.Snyder spends loads of money on other players, why hasn't he dropped some cash on a veteran QB?I think the Skins have all the pieces for greatness except a QB. Do you think JC is on the short time if the Skins don't make the playoffs this year? Just curious. And again please don't take this as a shot it's just my opinion and I wonder how fans feel that watch this team week in and week out.
Well, it's not like the Skins didn't pursue other QB options in the off-season - and the more I see of Cutler, the happier I am he went to Chicago.Yes, if the Skins don't make the playoffs this year, Campbell's gone. This is the last year of his rookie contract.As for dropping some cash on a veteran QB...don't really see who would have been a significant upgrade in this past off-season as a free agent signing. Let's face it, getting a good QB is the hardest thing in the league. A desperate gamble for Cassell? No thanks. Jeff Garcia...um, no. Sign somebody else's backup? Please...So the thinking is that probably, if the Skins turn in an uninspiring 7-9 or 8-8, they will do something silly in the draft next year for the "QB of the future" and let Campbell go.
I was really hoping the Redskins would sign a younger veteran qb who flopped earlier and try to revive their career. Like Grossman or Losman. It usually does not work out, but it really doesn't cost much to give it a shot.
 
Jason Campbell

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest."
The more I see and hear of Campbell, I'm starting to think he's the black Mark Rippien. And maybe at this point in his development, it's his 1989. he has so many of Rips traits. maybe all he lacks is a Stan Humphries-type to nudge him. in the next 5 weeks, we will find out. hey, you guys tell me to be positive :thumbup:

 
I'm hoping Campbell starts quarterbacking, instead of trying to execute Zorn instructions during every play. It would help the team more.

 
fatness said:
Offense

Total Offense – 21st

Passing – 20th

Rushing – 19th

Scoring – 20th

Touchdowns 14th (tied w/ 7 others)

Defense

Total Defense – 21st

Passing – 21st

Rushing – 22nd

Scoring – 20th

Tackles – 6th (tied w/ 1 other)

Interceptions – 9th (tied w/ 12 others)
Again, just re-enforces what we already know. Though, when it's actually put in numbers...it hurts or stings a bit more. :goodposting:
 
BTW - One of my more favorite posts at ES is give our offense a nickname. Funny stuff there.

Here is my contribution:

CRAP = production & output

or

Deja Vu = Seen this before, predictable as always

or

Limbaugh = Can't get anymore conservative than what we are

or

Pop Warner = The plays we run

or

Dazed & Confused = Our inability to sustain a drive

or

Special Teams = They are real "special" and will lead to the punt unit coming on the field

 
fatness said:
Offense

Total Offense – 21st

Passing – 20th

Rushing – 19th

Scoring – 20th

Touchdowns 14th (tied w/ 7 others)

Defense

Total Defense – 21st

Passing – 21st

Rushing – 22nd

Scoring – 20th

Tackles – 6th (tied w/ 1 other)

Interceptions – 9th (tied w/ 12 others)
Again, just re-enforces what we already know. Though, when it's actually put in numbers...it hurts or stings a bit more. :(
:fishing: Again, they played a good team. I have no problem with those rankings against the Giants. Now, after this week, they need to make a significant jump. They need to push 400 yards and 3 offensive TDs. I'd guess that would get them up in the range of 12th in total offense. After the Lions, Bucs, and Chiefs, they better be top 10.

 
fatness said:
Offense

Total Offense – 21st

Passing – 20th

Rushing – 19th

Scoring – 20th

Touchdowns 14th (tied w/ 7 others)

Defense

Total Defense – 21st

Passing – 21st

Rushing – 22nd

Scoring – 20th

Tackles – 6th (tied w/ 1 other)

Interceptions – 9th (tied w/ 12 others)
Again, just re-enforces what we already know. Though, when it's actually put in numbers...it hurts or stings a bit more. :(
:shrug: Again, they played a good team. I have no problem with those rankings against the Giants. Now, after this week, they need to make a significant jump. They need to push 400 yards and 3 offensive TDs. I'd guess that would get them up in the range of 12th in total offense. After the Lions, Bucs, and Chiefs, they better be top 10.
Agreed. I'm still pissed about the conservative game plan by Zorn. If your and your QB's asses are on the line as Zorn's and Campbell's are this season, and you're playing a very good team on the road in a game few people expect you to win, let it all hang out and see what you can do. I think Campbell needs to be challenged and he's capable of more. F'ing challenge him, Zorn! :angry:

 
buster c said:
fatness said:
Jason Campbell

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest."
The more I see and hear of Campbell, I'm starting to think he's the black Mark Rippien. And maybe at this point in his development, it's his 1989. he has so many of Rips traits. maybe all he lacks is a Stan Humphries-type to nudge him. in the next 5 weeks, we will find out. hey, you guys tell me to be positive :shrug:
I don't think that's a bad comparison. Obvious differences would be mobility and Rypien's superior accuracy on deep throws. Maybe Humphries pushing for the job was part of Rypien's brief success, but I think ridiculous pass protection combined with a great receiving corps was the biggest contributor. I certainly don't think Campbell is a Pro Bowl type QB, but he could have Pro Bowl type production with kick ### protection and open receivers. Of course, there are a ton of guys who can do that.
 
:popcorn:

Again, they played a good team. I have no problem with those rankings against the Giants. Now, after this week, they need to make a significant jump. They need to push 400 yards and 3 offensive TDs. I'd guess that would get them up in the range of 12th in total offense. After the Lions, Bucs, and Chiefs, they better be top 10.
Agreed. I'm still pissed about the conservative game plan by Zorn. If your and your QB's asses are on the line as Zorn's and Campbell's are this season, and you're playing a very good team on the road in a game few people expect you to win, let it all hang out and see what you can do. I think Campbell needs to be challenged and he's capable of more. F'ing challenge him, Zorn! :angry:
Thomas Boswell has a pretty good piece on this subject today. He concludes:
The Redskins' next five games are so merciful by NFL standards that any coach would hear the siren song of conservative play. Why blow the chance to start the season 4-2 just so the offense can come of age? Let 'em ride the defense's bus. Give the rebuilt offensive line a few more weeks in which to jell.

It's so tempting to put off days of reckoning.

In the end, this may be an example of nervous short-term thinking colliding with wise long-term franchise development. The Redskins need to find out if Zorn's system is special, whether he can teach it effectively and whether Campbell is the quarterback to run it. Both the coach and the quarterback need to be measured. And judged, too. Why not start getting answers when the schedule maximizes your chances for success?

Now is the time.
 
Sellers played 18 snaps. 15 were runs, 3 were passes. All 3 pass plays were early in the game. Those three pass plays were ARE's attempt, an incomplete pass, and Osi's TD.

 
The passing game with Portis on the field:

Plays - 8

Attempts - 6

Completions - 2

Yards - 27 (Cooley 17, Portis 10)

TDs - 0

INT - 1

Sacks - 2 (ARE and Osi's TD)

OOF!

 
I'm waiting for ProFootballFocus.com to post their stats. They show how often players lined up at different positions. It was my impression that Orakpo didn't line up at DE nearly enough. And, when he did, they didn't do anything creative with him.
3 games down. 13 to go. :lmao:
Game is up now.Orakpo had 10 snaps on the DL. They show Orakpo playing 56 snaps, compared to O'Halloran showing 54 snaps.
Hmmm. I'm wondering more and more about the reliability of the information there. The only OL they have with a sack allowed is Stephon Heyer. Are they giving Samuels a pass on Osi's sack (which they probably should) and blaming Heyer for ARE's sack (which doesn't seem right to me)? Or are they miscrediting Heyer with Osi's sack?
 
I'm waiting for ProFootballFocus.com to post their stats. They show how often players lined up at different positions. It was my impression that Orakpo didn't line up at DE nearly enough. And, when he did, they didn't do anything creative with him.
3 games down. 13 to go. :X
Game is up now.Orakpo had 10 snaps on the DL. They show Orakpo playing 56 snaps, compared to O'Halloran showing 54 snaps.
Hmmm. I'm wondering more and more about the reliability of the information there. The only OL they have with a sack allowed is Stephon Heyer. Are they giving Samuels a pass on Osi's sack (which they probably should) and blaming Heyer for ARE's sack (which doesn't seem right to me)? Or are they miscrediting Heyer with Osi's sack?
Yes, Campbell is responsible for the Osi sack and ARE is responsible for his own sack. Heyer is responsible for the Tuck sack a couple plays after Hall's INT. I think those are all properly assigned.
 
buster c said:
fatness said:
Jason Campbell

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest."
The more I see and hear of Campbell, I'm starting to think he's the black Mark Rippien. And maybe at this point in his development, it's his 1989. he has so many of Rips traits. maybe all he lacks is a Stan Humphries-type to nudge him. in the next 5 weeks, we will find out. hey, you guys tell me to be positive :bye:
I don't think that's a bad comparison. Obvious differences would be mobility and Rypien's superior accuracy on deep throws. Maybe Humphries pushing for the job was part of Rypien's brief success, but I think ridiculous pass protection combined with a great receiving corps was the biggest contributor. I certainly don't think Campbell is a Pro Bowl type QB, but he could have Pro Bowl type production with kick ### protection and open receivers. Of course, there are a ton of guys who can do that.
Too often we're indicting guys for not being the next Peyton Manning. The truth is that there are very, very few such QB's in the NFL at any given time, and a similarly limited number of "merely" very good QB's. ELITE

Manning

Brady

Brees

VERY GOOD

Rivers

Roethlisberger

McNabb

Warner

E. Manning (arguable)

Romo (arguable)

At most, you've got 1/4 or maybe 1/3 of the league covered, but certainly no more and maybe even less.

Fortunately, all you need at the QB position to win is competence if you have an otherwise solid roster. This is the blueprint for teams like Tennessee and Baltimore, and it's why guys like Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, etc. have continued to find work.

 
buster c said:
fatness said:
Jason Campbell

"We have some plays that take longer to develop than others, some of the routes, and I always want to give our guys a chance to get open. I don't ever want to give up on a play. But as a quarterback, you have to understand you just need to get rid of the ball sometimes. That was one of those times, so I got on myself about that."

And Campbell was critical of some of his teammates for their mistakes, too. In keeping with his more-vocal approach this season, Campbell, in his second season as a team captain, expressed his feelings to teammates on a few occasions when mental and physical miscues contributed to stalled drives.

TV cameras did not show Campbell admonishing teammates often, "but it's not about doing it for TV. It's about everyone doing what we have to do to be successful as a team. People say I'm not vocal because they don't see my saying something and they don't know what I do [in the privacy of the locker room].

"That's fine. I'm not doing it just so people think I'm doing something. Whatever I do, I'm doing because that's what I feel is needed from me as the quarterback of this team. We just didn't play the way we're capable of playing, and I said what I needed to say about myself and some other things."

Campbell declined to provide specifics about what disappointed him most against the Giants, but he stressed "we all have to look at what we did out there and be honest with ourselves. If guys look at it and say they played great, then they're just not being honest."
The more I see and hear of Campbell, I'm starting to think he's the black Mark Rippien. And maybe at this point in his development, it's his 1989. he has so many of Rips traits. maybe all he lacks is a Stan Humphries-type to nudge him. in the next 5 weeks, we will find out. hey, you guys tell me to be positive :rolleyes:
I don't think that's a bad comparison. Obvious differences would be mobility and Rypien's superior accuracy on deep throws. Maybe Humphries pushing for the job was part of Rypien's brief success, but I think ridiculous pass protection combined with a great receiving corps was the biggest contributor. I certainly don't think Campbell is a Pro Bowl type QB, but he could have Pro Bowl type production with kick ### protection and open receivers. Of course, there are a ton of guys who can do that.
Too often we're indicting guys for not being the next Peyton Manning. The truth is that there are very, very few such QB's in the NFL at any given time, and a similarly limited number of "merely" very good QB's. ELITE

Manning

Brady

Brees

VERY GOOD

Rivers

Roethlisberger

McNabb

Warner

E. Manning (arguable)

Romo (arguable)

At most, you've got 1/4 or maybe 1/3 of the league covered, but certainly no more and maybe even less.

Fortunately, all you need at the QB position to win is competence if you have an otherwise solid roster. This is the blueprint for teams like Tennessee and Baltimore, and it's why guys like Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, etc. have continued to find work.
paging Aaron Rogers, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, Matt Hasselback...
 
paging Aaron Rogers, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, Matt Hasselback...
Rogers is close, and I have Ryan picked as the next Peyton Manning, but he needs to show more for the purposes of this discussion. Palmer's been too inconsistent, and Hasselbeck is not at that level anymore IMHO. All are certainly the next tier though, and that's not an insult to them. IMHO Stafford will be part of this sort of discussion too before too long.
 
paging Aaron Rogers, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, Matt Hasselback...
Rogers is close, and I have Ryan picked as the next Peyton Manning, but he needs to show more for the purposes of this discussion. Palmer's been too inconsistent, and Hasselbeck is not at that level anymore IMHO. All are certainly the next tier though, and that's not an insult to them. IMHO Stafford will be part of this sort of discussion too before too long.
Yep, Rogers and Ryan will enter the Very Good category probably just as Warner and McNabb are leaving. I think Hasselbeck is on his way out of that category, but I'd still include Palmer as Very Good.
 
This:

Fortunately, all you need at the QB position to win is competence if you have an otherwise solid roster.
is of course technically correct, but the key word there is need. You don't need more, but it ALWAYS helps. It's not like there's great QBs, very good Qbs, bad QBs, and then a pool of 20 QBs who don't impact the game one way or another. If the other team has a better QB than you, then you need to beat them in other facets of the game, regardless of whether or not their QB is "elite" or "very good." And the simple fact is that the Redskins are giving something away to their opponent at the QB position in all but four of their remaining fifteen games this year. That's a real problem, and we can't dance around it by making tiered lists and placing Campbell in a third tier.
 
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Prediction time.

Redskins 24

Rams 10

The offense scores 3 TDs, but one will be on a very short drive setup by the defense. This will lead to concern that the offense still hasn't changed and they were given a gift TD by their D. Portis will break 100 yards and score a TD. Campbell will complete a high % even while throwing downfield more, but will be criticized for a bad turnover that would cost the team against a better opponent. Moss will do a lot of damage early, but Kelly, Thomas, and Davis won't combine for 5 receptions.

The defense will show signs of dominance, especially up front. They'll shut down the run and harass Bulger all game. They'll force 3 turnovers. Orakpo will see more time rushing the passer and show signs of having his coming out party.

Special Teams will stay medium. No huge returns, no turnovers, solid coverage, and Suisham will miss a 40+ yard FG. Hunter Smith will pin the Rams deep in their own zone a couple times. One of those occasions will lead to the turnover that sets the offense up for an easy TD.

The downside will be that the team suffers their first serious injury. Nothing huge, sending someone to IR, but a starter will have miss the next 4-6 weeks.

The overall feeling after the game will be that they've improved, but the offense didn't quite show as much as we'd like.

 
The overall feeling after the game will be that they've improved, but the offense didn't quite show as much as we'd like.
I get the same feeling. I think maybe we'll get one Campbell passing TD and then the rest of the day will be Portis/running game and more Zorn timid playcalling.
 
As always, good stuff from Keim:
So . . . dumb question. Why can't you design coverages that allow Hall to play off-man, and Smoot to play press man, and Rogers to switch back and forth as needed? :popcorn:
:) Good question. You should comment on that blog post and ask. He'll answer.One guess is that it appears, from the post, that one reason they like to play off is to disguise whether they are in man or zone. So, you probably could design something different, but they may not want to.
How much are you really disguising when the opposing QB knows that . . . *clears throat* . . . Hall likes to play off-man, Smoot likes to play press man, and Rogers can do either? I will respond to the blog post though.
Keim's response for now:
I'll try to get more answers for you. Not sure they want to talk more about this, but we'll see. the disguise comes when trying to decipher off-man or zone, among other things. Or if it's some sort of man-combo coverage. yes, they can play zone on one side and man on the other. But I'll try to get more answers from the experts...
 
From one of the "keys to success" for the Redskins listed in today's Sporting News Today:

Because Rams rookie right tackle Jason Smith plays upright at times, he is vulnerable against speed rushers. Look for the Redskins to target him.
That will be Orakpo on passing downs. Sounds like dgreen's prediction for Orakpo's coming out party could be dead on. :)
 
:goodposting:
Snake Terrorizes Spineless RedskinsAfter practice, defensive end/strong-side linebacker Chris Wilson noticed a small snake in the locker room near wide receiver Malcolm Kelly's dressing stall.Everyone thought Wilson was kidding, until Kelly noticed a little, thin snake slithering along the baseboard. "Somebody do something!" Wilson shouted.Right tackle Stephon Heyer rushed to the rescue. Heyer struggled to get a handle on the slippery snake, but eventually grabbed it and held it high as players, team staff and reporters looked on.Heyer dropped the snake as it began to move, prompting fullback Mike Sellers, standing a few feet away, to say, "Stephon ... if you bring that snake over here. What you doing? That snake could be poisonous."Heyer picked up the snake again, brought it outside and placed it on the ground. "All taken care of," said Heyer, who re-entered the locker room and teased his teammates for their reaction to the tiny snake."I don't feel safe anymore," Kelly said, jokingly.
 
From one of the "keys to success" for the Redskins listed in today's Sporting News Today:

Because Rams rookie right tackle Jason Smith plays upright at times, he is vulnerable against speed rushers. Look for the Redskins to target him.
That will be Orakpo on passing downs. Sounds like dgreen's prediction for Orakpo's coming out party could be dead on. :goodposting:
IF they play him at DE or have him rushing the passer from the LB spot. At this point, we should not assume much. It sure would be nice to RAK put up a great game because it will help his confidence and give us something to get excited about too.
 
You know what's a minor annoyance? People keep saying the Redskins offense only scored 10 points against NY last week. Obviously, they say this because one of the TDs was on a fake FG. But, what if they kicked the FG? Would the offense all of a sudden have 13 points? Would they get credit for the FG, but not the fake FG TD? If they don't get credit for that TD, why do they get credit for the FG after the INT? Shouldn't they only get 7 points then?

Overall, I'd say the offense should be credited with 14 points. The FG should be credited to the D. And, the offense is the main reason they were in position to perform the fake FG because they are the ones that drove down the field.

Just something that's annoyed me whenever I hear it this week.

 
Redskins 16

Rams 13

Redskin offense is start-stop-start-stop.

Rams fail to tie it with FG late in 4th quarter.

Redskins commit fewer turnovers.

Redskins gain fewer yards.

Rams have 32-28 advantage in time of possession.

Zorn tells the team they're a very good team.

Nothing is learned.

 
Redskins 16Rams 13Redskin offense is start-stop-start-stop.Rams fail to tie it with FG late in 4th quarter.Redskins commit fewer turnovers.Redskins gain fewer yards.Rams have 32-28 advantage in time of possession.Zorn tells the team they're a very good team.Nothing is learned.
If this happens we will be a 5-11 team with a new HC by the bye week.
 
Greg Blache is hilarious.

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During his weekly group interview session Thursday, defensive coordinator Greg Blache dismissed questions about defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth's overall impact on the defense.

Blache said Haynesworth played well in the Week 1 loss to the New York Giants, and acknowledged the Pro Bowler is a "very, very, good player," but he seemed downright offended by the suggestion Haynesworth might actually help to make the players around him better. Middle linebacker London Fletcher was credited with a team-high 18 tackles in the 23-17 loss at Giants Stadium, prompting one reporter to theorize Fletcher had more freedom to race to the ball because Haynesworth often occupied two offensive linemen while being double-teamed.

Well, that's a stupid theory, Blache said in effect, pointing out the Redskins had defensive tackles last season, too. Haynesworth and Fletcher each performed their duties well, Blache said, but Haynesworth was not responsible for Fletcher's success, or any other player's success. "Albert's a good player, but let's not make him King Kong," Blache said. He's "not Superman."
 
You know what's a minor annoyance? People keep saying the Redskins offense only scored 10 points against NY last week. Obviously, they say this because one of the TDs was on a fake FG. But, what if they kicked the FG? Would the offense all of a sudden have 13 points? Would they get credit for the FG, but not the fake FG TD? If they don't get credit for that TD, why do they get credit for the FG after the INT? Shouldn't they only get 7 points then?Overall, I'd say the offense should be credited with 14 points. The FG should be credited to the D. And, the offense is the main reason they were in position to perform the fake FG because they are the ones that drove down the field.Just something that's annoyed me whenever I hear it this week.
you know what annoys me? 1 offensive TD in 2 games.and it came verses a prevent defense.
 
Wash Post

Posted at 5:08 PM ET, 09/20/2009R. Thomas Likely Out for SeasonRight guard Randy Thomas is expected to miss the remainder of the season with a torn right triceps, according to multiple NFL sources. Team officials said Coach Jim Zorn will comment on Thomas' status Monday, when Thomas is expected to undergo an MRI."To fill Randy's shoes is gonna be tough, and whoever steps in has to be ready to play," left guard Derrick Dockery said. "It's gonna be hard, we're gonna miss him, but that's just part of the National Football League. Injuries happen. We just have to find a way to rebound."Center/guard Will Montgomery filled in for Thomas on Sunday. Chad Rinehart, a third-round pick a year ago who has been inactive for both games this season, would be another option. Dockery was asked whether the team has a fill-in who could play up to Thomas's level."Anything is possible," Dockery said. "You just have to have faith and belief. It's gonna be hard and difficult, no doubt about it. Randy's one of the best guards in the National Football League, so it's gonna be a real challenge, but we have to find somebody to do it."Thomas tore his left triceps on Sept. 17, 2007; he underwent surgery and missed 10 games. That year, the team opted not to place him on injured reserve, which would have ended his season, and he returned to the lineup Dec. 6. However, he reinjured the arm and was placed on IR on Dec. 13.By Dan Steinberg and Jason Reid
 

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