***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

I'm up to my eyeballs in leagues, but if you need another manager I'm in.Don't post a lot because I'm physicaly challenged when it comes to keyboards. Been a 'Skins fan a long time , a very long time, saw my first game at Griffith Stadium, Eddie LaBaron was QB.

 

[Bizkiteer]

If so, which one do you prefer?

1. $10 fee, pay for MFL, payout to 1st place

2. $10 fee, use yahoo (free), payouts to 1st - 4th place teams

1. $10 fee, pay for MFL, payout to 1st placeMFL is an easier place to chat, talk trash, check stats, make trades, etc. We can load up threads with Redskin images, trash the other NFC East teams. We could make this a lot of fun. Maybe I'll name my team Irvin's Crackheads.

If others want to do a survivor league I'd do that but they're not much fun. You draft and it's over. There's nothing to talk about all year except "oh, you're out now".

My thought exactly! Having a "real" league will provide nice banter, which most likely will spill over into this thread.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I'm up to my eyeballs in leagues, but if you need another manager I'm in.Don't post a lot because I'm physicaly challenged when it comes to keyboards. Been a 'Skins fan a long time , a very long time, saw my first game at Griffith Stadium, Eddie LaBaron was QB.

JAM,I'll put you on the list for "maybe." Since you said you had a lot, we'll use you as a safety net. This way, we'll cross that bridge if we need to...cool?

 

[Dexter Manley]

I'm down to play in a league, depending on the day of the draft. I'd prefer MFL or a free site.

 

[Go DC Yourself]

I've generally boycotted all things 'Skins ever since the arc of the Snyder era became apparent, but since I saw Pablito's name on the thread I thought I would check it out. If you need a local to fill out the league, I'm good for free, or 10, or 25. Any idea on the date? TIA.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I've generally boycotted all things 'Skins ever since the arc of the Snyder era became apparent, but since I saw Pablito's name on the thread I thought I would check it out. If you need a local to fill out the league, I'm good for free, or 10, or 25. Any idea on the date? TIA.

It won't be local, we are 'Skins fans from all over...that just happen to be here @ FBG.

 

[Ripleys]

I agree with fatness, except I'd happily do $25, $50, $100. But if $10 is all that you guys want to do, I'm still game. But you're embarrassing Dan Snyder with such petty spending.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer

2. nittanylion

3. ChrisCooleyFan

4. pablito

5. sinatravolta

6. Ripleys

7. Brunell4MVP

8. Dexter Manley

9. Fatness (I put u down, since it's $10)

10. TankRizzo??? (on the fence)

NO / Scaredy Cats

DCThunder

T Bell

Sebowski

dgreen

lowen1

tobias funke

Maybe

sidewinder16

JAM

Go DC Yourself

PM sent, waiting for response

Buster c

thayman

southeastjerome

jurb26

Updated

 

[southeastjerome]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer

2. nittanylion

3. ChrisCooleyFan

4. pablito

5. sinatravolta

6. Ripleys

7. Brunell4MVP

8. Dexter Manley

9. Fatness (I put u down, since it's $10)

10. TankRizzo??? (on the fence)

NO / Scaredy Cats

DCThunder

T Bell

Sebowski

dgreen

lowen1

tobias funke

Maybe

sidewinder16

JAM

Go DC Yourself

PM sent, waiting for response

Buster c

thayman

southeastjerome

jurb26

Updated

I am at my cap of four leagues, but this sounds fun. I am in if there are any spots left. No IDP though?

 

[Sebowski]

John Clayton chat

Q: Do you think Green Bay was wise taking B.J. Raji over Brian Orakpo in the 2009 draft? Orakpo is a DE/LB and I hear that they are just going to move Raji to the DE, even though he is a DT. Do you think that Orakpo would have been the smarter choice looking at what position needed to be filled?A: What a great question. From what I see of Orakpo, he has a chance to be a 10-sack star. Players like him are hard to find. But if you are switching to the 3-4, you have to find big defensive linemen. Raji is good enough to be a 3-4 end, but if needed, he can be Ryan Pickett's replacement at nose tackle in the next couple of years. The fact that the Packers drafted Clay Matthews covered the outside linebacker question, but, wow, I'm thinking Orakpo could be a star.

 

[dgreen]

John Clayton chat

Q: Do you think Green Bay was wise taking B.J. Raji over Brian Orakpo in the 2009 draft? Orakpo is a DE/LB and I hear that they are just going to move Raji to the DE, even though he is a DT. Do you think that Orakpo would have been the smarter choice looking at what position needed to be filled?A: What a great question. From what I see of Orakpo, he has a chance to be a 10-sack star. Players like him are hard to find. But if you are switching to the 3-4, you have to find big defensive linemen. Raji is good enough to be a 3-4 end, but if needed, he can be Ryan Pickett's replacement at nose tackle in the next couple of years. The fact that the Packers drafted Clay Matthews covered the outside linebacker question, but, wow, I'm thinking Orakpo could be a star.

We keep hearing it, so this is just more good news. But, I really don't get all the praise he got for the first preseason game. From my know-nothing POV, he did very little against starters. All his awesomeness came against backups. I think that's good, but nothing to overly praise him for.I'm still thinking/hoping he can be our DeMarcus Ware or Terrell Suggs.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer

2. nittanylion

3. ChrisCooleyFan

4. pablito

5. sinatravolta

6. Ripleys

7. Brunell4MVP

8. Dexter Manley

9. Fatness (I put u down, since it's $10)

10. TankRizzo???

11. southeastjerome

12. buster c

13. crnerblitz

14. sidewinder16 / FAM / Marvelous (the order on dibs)

NO / Scaredy Cats

DCThunder

T Bell

Sebowski

dgreen

lowen1

tobias funke

Maybe

sidewinder16

JAM

Go DC Yourself

PM sent, waiting for response

thayman

jurb26

Updated to show latest additions. Looks like we have enough to make it a 16 team league...if we wanted.

 

[Bizkiteer]

John Clayton chat

Q: Do you think Green Bay was wise taking B.J. Raji over Brian Orakpo in the 2009 draft? Orakpo is a DE/LB and I hear that they are just going to move Raji to the DE, even though he is a DT. Do you think that Orakpo would have been the smarter choice looking at what position needed to be filled?A: What a great question. From what I see of Orakpo, he has a chance to be a 10-sack star. Players like him are hard to find. But if you are switching to the 3-4, you have to find big defensive linemen. Raji is good enough to be a 3-4 end, but if needed, he can be Ryan Pickett's replacement at nose tackle in the next couple of years. The fact that the Packers drafted Clay Matthews covered the outside linebacker question, but, wow, I'm thinking Orakpo could be a star.

We keep hearing it, so this is just more good news. But, I really don't get all the praise he got for the first preseason game. From my know-nothing POV, he did very little against starters. All his awesomeness came against backups. I think that's good, but nothing to overly praise him for.I'm still thinking/hoping he can be our DeMarcus Ware or Terrell Suggs.

By the sounds of every report, which has come from coaches, players, media and anyone else that appears to be watching, he seems to be truly legit. He just might be a Ware, Suggs, or player that 12 other teams who picked before us wished they had picked. Then again the other 19 might have wished that he fell to them. It would be nice if he was one of those type of players, but the vibe around him is really encouraging.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I am at my cap of four leagues, but this sounds fun. I am in if there are any spots left. No IDP though?

You ought to be glad there is no IDP, if this will be #5 for you. One brain can only sort through so many FA wires and not have to worry about DE, DT, LB, CB, S and such. Count it as a blessing in disguise!

 

[fatness]

I'm up to my eyeballs in leagues, but if you need another manager I'm in.

Don't post a lot because I'm physicaly challenged when it comes to keyboards. Been a 'Skins fan a long time , a very long time, saw my first game at Griffith Stadium, Eddie LaBaron was QB.

JAM,I'll put you on the list for "maybe." Since you said you had a lot, we'll use you as a safety net. This way, we'll cross that bridge if we need to...cool?

If it comes down to it and we have no slot for JAM I'd be willing to give mine up. I've only been a Redskin fan since the late 60's , so he outranks me.

IN

9. Fatness (I put u down, since it's $10)

Yes, I'm in, unless JAM needs my spot.

 

[fatness]

I really want to beat buster c by the way.

 

[fatness]

We keep hearing it, so this is just more good news. But, I really don't get all the praise he got for the first preseason game. From my know-nothing POV, he did very little against starters. All his awesomeness came against backups. I think that's good, but nothing to overly praise him for.

I only watched the first defensive series or 2, but he was in there around the ball or the tackle on every running play. I didn't really take note of him on passing plays.

 

[Bizkiteer]

I really want to beat buster c by the way.

I thought about that when I PM'd him. Instant rivalry in the league! Also, I don't see being a problem as we can have 12-14 teams. 16 teams means that the talent pool is dwindled, but I was thinking 12 or 14 would be great.

 

[crnerblitz]

Hey Guys, I just happen to have an opening and would love to be in the league. I promise not to draft cooley in the 4th.

 

[dgreen]

We keep hearing it, so this is just more good news. But, I really don't get all the praise he got for the first preseason game. From my know-nothing POV, he did very little against starters. All his awesomeness came against backups. I think that's good, but nothing to overly praise him for.

I only watched the first defensive series or 2, but he was in there around the ball or the tackle on every running play. I didn't really take note of him on passing plays.

Yes, he did tend to be around the ball or pile as a play ended. But, I just wasn't wowed last week. That's ok, though. There's nothing wrong with that. I trust the coaches know infinitely more than I do.I remember Sean Taylor's first preseason. He absolutely pwned backups. He was everywhere. Picking off passes. Scoring a TD. Orakpo could do to our pass rush what Taylor did to our pass coverage.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Hey Guys, I just happen to have an opening and would love to be in the league. I promise not to draft cooley in the 4th.

He wouldnt make it that far anyways

 

[Marvelous]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer

2. nittanylion

3. ChrisCooleyFan

4. pablito

5. sinatravolta

6. Ripleys

7. Brunell4MVP

8. Dexter Manley

9. Fatness (I put u down, since it's $10)

10. southeastjerome

11. TankRizzo??? (on the fence)

NO / Scaredy Cats

DCThunder

T Bell

Sebowski

dgreen

lowen1

tobias funke

Maybe

sidewinder16

JAM

Go DC Yourself

PM sent, waiting for response

Buster c

thayman

jurb26

Updated to show southeastjerome addition.

Hi Guys. I could go either way on this. Entry fee is no problem. But if you have enough people, no problem sitting out too.By the way, I am out of pocket from 8/21 - 9/1.

 

[buster c]

just got back tonight from the summer trip to British Columbia at the inlaws. there are few better places on earth to visit. and it gives me a chance to catch some CFL action

I'd love to play some bragging-rights FFL with you guys.

 

[buster c]

I'm up to my eyeballs in leagues, but if you need another manager I'm in.Don't post a lot because I'm physicaly challenged when it comes to keyboards. Been a 'Skins fan a long time , a very long time, saw my first game at Griffith Stadium, Eddie LaBaron was QB.

dude, I think I'd like to spend holidays watching football with you

 

[buster c]

I really want to beat buster c by the way.

not my rival

 

[Bizkiteer]

We appear to be headed for a 14 team league w/ $10 fee and using MFL. If you are one of the 14 listed, please PM me giving me the following info (Note - on voting issues, majority vote makes it so):

1. your actual name

2. email addy to be used for correspondence & league

3. What time zone are you in (need to know, to schedule a reasonable draft time)

4. Do you prefer 1 point per reception or .5 pts per reception

5. Do you prefer one standard formation (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1PK & 1 DEF) or with flex formation (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1PK & 1 DEF & 1 QB, 1 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1PK & 1 DEF)?

6. 14 man rosters (9 starters/5 man bench) or 15 man rosters (9 starters/6 man bench)?

7. Give suggestion for league name:

"Burgundy & Gold"

"Hail to the Redskins"

"Braves on the Warpath"

"Redskins Park"

"Redskin Footballguys"

"The Squire's Revenge"

Give your own suggestion.

Thanks! Once I get everyone's info (the sooner the better), I will set up the league in MFL. I will respond to you with the information of where to send in the infamous $10 payment. The draft could be held on Thursday, Sept 3rd...evening (changed from earlier listed Friday), since we have a person or two out the loop from 8/21 to September. Drafting 8/20 doesn't seem realistic at this point because we want to give people the ability to get ready. Schedule will done so that everyone gets to play everyone once (13 game regular season)...at least there is bragging rights amoungst each other too.

 

[fatness]

I listened to an interview with Brian Orakpo on the Sports Reporters yesterday. He sounds young, smart, and very engaging --- a likable guy with a decent amount of confidence. They asked him about rookie hazing, and he said he's tried to avoid it. When they told him stories of rookies being duct taped to goal posts he was amazed, it was really funny. "They actually do that??!!!" He said after practices when he sees veteran O-linemen approaching he leaves, so they don't try messing with him.

They got Orakpo. Article

I missed the rookie hazing of Kevin Barnes and Robert Henson, who were tied up to the goalposts following Monday evening's practice. I was sad. But then Brian Orakpo and J.D. Skolnitsky got tied up today, where they received ice water baths, Gatorade showers, and wet towel treatments. That made me happy.

"Albert's the main culprit," Orakpo told us. "If you all know Albert, he's the main culprit. He wants somebody got every day, so don't be surprised to see this tomorrow."

Orakpo pointed out that today's victims were taped much tighter than yesterday's, who were just "chillin." He said he could have run away before things started, since there had been chatter all afternoon about what was coming, but he was warned he'd be targeted every day if he tried to escape. And once the DB's got involved, "they faster than me, I couldn't run from them," Orakpo said.

"So it is what it is," he concluded, marking the first time I've heard that cliche from a man tied up to a goalpost.

As for the lessons learned from such hijinks?

"I learned that being a rookie sucks, that's the main thing," Orakpo said. "I got one season to go through, and next year the next guys will get it and I'll be first on board."

 

[T Bell]

Orakpo said. "I got one season to go through, and next year the next guys will get it and I'll be first on board."

Have you ever noticed how the children from abusive homes themselves grow up to be abusive parents?

 

[nittanylion]

While we finish fleshing out the size of the League, we might as well start talking Format...

IF we could get to 16, we could run a Draft-n-Go (Best Ball) Survivor-Type League like we do in the MDRU Forum to pass the time between the SuperBowl and Training Camp. I mention this because it's one Option that kind of stands on its own - no trades, no waivers, just Draft a Deep Roster, and the Software 'maximizes' your Starting Lineup from your entire Roster each Week to generate your score. These Leagues can be set up as 'All Play' where your score is compared to all other Teams in the League and generates a record (the Team with the highest score would go 11-0 that week, 2nd highest score 10-1, and so on...), or they can be set up as Total Points Leagues, with no head to head play. We could have Weekly eliminations, or everyone could play through the entire Season (including the NFL Playoffs and SuperBowl if we chose, see David Yudkin's Anarchy Leagues). MFL would also support a traditional League (trading and waivers) that uses the same style of maximizing your best starting lineup rather than having to submit one each week...

Just throwing those out there...

Also, one of my biggest obsessions in Fantasy Football is tinkering with Starting Lineup Options and Scoring Systems, and I have developed one I'm really proud of that makes all positions relatively equally relevant.

If you guys are interested in looking at it, I'll post it. It doesn't involve PPR, but that component could be added with relatively little difficulty, if we choose...

 

[sinatravolta]

While we finish fleshing out the size of the League, we might as well start talking Format...IF we could get to 16, we could run a Draft-n-Go (Best Ball) Survivor-Type League like we do in the MDRU Forum to pass the time between the SuperBowl and Training Camp. I mention this because it's one Option that kind of stands on its own - no trades, no waivers, just Draft a Deep Roster, and the Software 'maximizes' your Starting Lineup from your entire Roster each Week to generate your score. These Leagues can be set up as 'All Play' where your score is compared to all other Teams in the League and generates a record (the Team with the highest score would go 11-0 that week, 2nd highest score 10-1, and so on...), or they can be set up as Total Points Leagues, with no head to head play. We could have Weekly eliminations, or everyone could play through the entire Season (including the NFL Playoffs and SuperBowl if we chose, see David Yudkin's Anarchy Leagues). MFL would also support a traditional League (trading and waivers) that uses the same style of maximizing your best starting lineup rather than having to submit one each week...Just throwing those out there...Also, one of my biggest obsessions in Fantasy Football is tinkering with Starting Lineup Options and Scoring Systems, and I have developed one I'm really proud of that makes all positions relatively equally relevant.If you guys are interested in looking at it, I'll post it. It doesn't involve PPR, but that component could be added with relatively little difficulty, if we choose...

I am open to something creative - I already have 4 leagues that all have their differences but are by-and-large similar. The proposed 14-team with ppr is different from anything I have - and the mere fact of having all FBGs will make it different - so I'm not too worried about it, but at the same time being more unusual would add to the interest. Survivor definitely adds a different element of strategy compared to all my normal leagues - more work pre-draft, but then less work in season and an increasing interest in results each week (at least as long as your team survives). And I am open to different scoring which makes positions more equal. I've done that in my main league to a certain extent for about 5 years (e.g. ppr: 0 for RBs, .5 for WRs, 1 for TEs) and it's made the draft and the league more fun.

 

[fatness]

Orakpo said. "I got one season to go through, and next year the next guys will get it and I'll be first on board."

Have you ever noticed how the children from abusive homes themselves grow up to be abusive parents?

That was my first thought as well. My second thought was "Typical defensive lineman mentality. I like it."

 

[Bizkiteer]

While we finish fleshing out the size of the League, we might as well start talking Format...IF we could get to 16, we could run a Draft-n-Go (Best Ball) Survivor-Type League like we do in the MDRU Forum to pass the time between the SuperBowl and Training Camp. I mention this because it's one Option that kind of stands on its own - no trades, no waivers, just Draft a Deep Roster, and the Software 'maximizes' your Starting Lineup from your entire Roster each Week to generate your score. These Leagues can be set up as 'All Play' where your score is compared to all other Teams in the League and generates a record (the Team with the highest score would go 11-0 that week, 2nd highest score 10-1, and so on...), or they can be set up as Total Points Leagues, with no head to head play. We could have Weekly eliminations, or everyone could play through the entire Season (including the NFL Playoffs and SuperBowl if we chose, see David Yudkin's Anarchy Leagues). MFL would also support a traditional League (trading and waivers) that uses the same style of maximizing your best starting lineup rather than having to submit one each week...Just throwing those out there...Also, one of my biggest obsessions in Fantasy Football is tinkering with Starting Lineup Options and Scoring Systems, and I have developed one I'm really proud of that makes all positions relatively equally relevant.If you guys are interested in looking at it, I'll post it. It doesn't involve PPR, but that component could be added with relatively little difficulty, if we choose...

In all fairness, it's not going to be survivor or anything left field type of structure. We are not trying to re-invent the wheel...just have a FF league for us 'Skins fans on FBG. This will be a performance fantasy football league format that has rosters, starting lineups and waivers. No keepers or anything else, but re-draft. This will create banter each year for draft and during weeks of season. We want to interact and have moves, so bragging rights are legit. Other leagues can provide different sets and such for owners, but again our goal here is to have a FF league for bragging rights within our own 'Skins thread/FBG's board. We are already working on format...see PM or post above. Ball is rolling already and everyone seems pumped about it...

 

[nittanylion]

Style of League doesn't matter to me - I put the Survivor idea out there mostly because it had been mentioned in passing, and I'm not sure everyone interested in the League is familiar with that style as an option.

Head To Head, Waivers, Trades, Submitting Lineups - that's great too!

I'm all for whatever the Group decides, but I'd like to see some more discussion/opinions before we start making decisions on some things.

However, we haven't seen much in the way of exchange of ideas between the prospective Owners regarding some pretty important things, so I'd like to stimulate some discussion.

Here goes:

Draft: Whether we're 12 or 14 Teams or even 16, it's important to go AT LEAST 16 Rounds, and preferably 18 or more.

I can't imagine we're going to do anything other than 'worst to first' Waivers, and anything less than 18 Rounds is going to leave WAY too much 'fat' on the Waiver Wire, and that lessens competition.

Waiver Wire: If we are indeed doing 'worst to first', then to be fair, the Waiver Wire shouldn't start until after completion of Week 3 Games. It's important to let the cream rise to the top when using worst to first waivers, otherwise the Teams 'lucky' enough to lose an early Game or 2 get all the WW Gems, when they may not actually NEED the help. Waiting 3 Games makes things more equitable for everyone.

STARTING LINEUPS & SCORING SYSTEM:

As far as Starting Lineups and Scoring Systems go, I think that's fodder for discussion amongst the group, and there are variables there outside of the earlier Post that deserve consideration. Here's mine:

Starting Lineups: If we're doing a League over 12 Teams, I'd HIGHLY advocate using some kind of Flex Option.

Whatever the group as a whole decides, of course, but here's my suggestion. It's only a suggestion, but certainly can be the basis around which a discussion can be had:

Start: 1QB / 1RB / 2WR / 1TE / 1PK / 1D-ST ... and TWO Flex Players. (That's 7 + 2 = 9 Starting Players)...

The Flex Players could either be (QB/RB/WR/TE, interesting, and important for larger Leagues) OR just traditional (RB/WR/TE)...

***I'd HIGHLY advocate the Flex QB approach, as it adds a unique twist without going too deep into Left Field***

Now here's the twist, especially for larger Leagues - you CANNOT double the Flex Players up on the same Position - in other words, at most you'd only be able to start 2RB, 3WR or 2TE - no 3RB, 4WR or 3TE (and if we were to Flex QB, no 3QB) Lineups.

With (RB/WR/TE) only Flex, the Starting Lineup Options would be:

1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE

1QB/1RB/3WR/2TE

1QB/2RB/2WR/2TE

Add QB to the Flex, and you add these 3 Starting Lineup Options to the original 3:

2QB/2RB/2WR/1TE

2QB/1RB/3WR/1TE

2QB/1RB/2WR/2TE

So, 6 possible combinations to choose from on Game Day, which theoretically allows everyone to field a unique, competitive Team, allowing them to tap from their strengths and not be forced to watch start-worthy Players, especially QB's, languish on your bench while posting 'Starter-Worthy' Statistics.

Biz, you mentioned PPR - If we're going to do use PPR, I'd highly recommend grading the PPR based on Position:

RB = 0 or 0.5

WR = 1

TE = 1.5 or 2

This generally equals out the Positions fairly.

but I'd like to offer a Scoring System that equates ALL the Positions, including QB without using PPR...

...but to which we could add one of those PPR Schemes without really affecting much.

Here it is:

Passing TD's:

Red Zone (20 Yards or less) = 4

21-50 Yards = 5

51+ = 6

Rush/Rec TD's

Red Zone (20 Yards or less) = 6

21-50 Yards = 7

All 2PT Conversions = 2

QB Performance: (combined Passing, Rushing, Receiving Yds)

225-250 = 3PTS

Each additional 25 Yards = 1PT

RB Performance: (combined Passing, Rushing, Receiving Yds)

70-79 Yards = 3PTS

Each additional 10 Yards = 1PT

WR Performance (combined Passing, Rushing, Receiving Yds)

50-59 Yards = 3PTS

Each additional 10 Yards = 1PT

TE Performance: (combined Passing, Rushing Receiving Yds)

30-39 Yds = 3 Points

Each additional 10 Yards = 1PT

An Example to sum it all up:

QB's must accrue 225 total yards to get their initial 3 Points, after which they are awarded 1 Point for each additional 25 total yards. Touchdown Passes have some additional variable in value based on distance. The overall goal of the system is to reward Players that post 'above average' performances relative to their peers at their positions, with a lean towards rewarding 'big plays'.

Your Players have to at least hit reasonably attainable yardage plateaus to start getting points - it doesn't just reward points willy-nilly - your starters have to post 'Starter Worthy' Statistics to hit the Box Score.

I put a serious amount of time into determining those plateaus - they represent a reasonable assumption of what the top 12-16 QB's, RB's and TE's and the Top 24-32 WR's ought to be able to accomplish on a Weekly Basis, and does a really nice job of equaling things out across the positions.

Also, with this Scoring System, not one of those Starting Lineup Options has an advantage over any of the others - they allow several equal ways for everyone to uniquely design their own Team based on their Draft preferences, rankings, etc, and maximize almost every Player on their Roster.

Again, we don't HAVE to use this idea, I'm just putting it out there to stimulate some discussion, because by the looks of the thread, we haven't heard much yet out of anyone else regarding Starting Lineups and Scoring System, except from Biz and now myself.

There are some great minds and great Players in this Thread who's opinions are valuable. Let's have some chatter - there's PLENTY of time to put something together between now and Sept 4. Nothing has to be set in stone right away.

Thoughts?

 

[nittanylion]

Geez, is it obvious that I've been running Leagues for going on 16 Years now?

I've been involved with so many start-ups, it's kind of 2nd nature to raise all these points.

Sorry if anyone finds it overwhelming. I just take great pride in quality League Set Up, and like to cover all bases.

Again, these are all just suggestions. I would like to see more group input though, before we commit to anything - I'm a big fan of League discussion and consensus before League decisions get made.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Thoughts?

Some great ideas! I will point out that many of us are in other leagues, so we don't want this to become too complicated of a set up. We want it to be easy enough to remember for everyone involved. That being said, we don't want to make it dummy proof because all have played enough FF or else we wouldn't be here @ FBG. Having such large rosters, such as 18, means there will be less on the FA wire and that means less activity. If rosters are so grand, then that also cuts on trades...because there really isn't a need. It seems that most so far want 15, which should give a decent amount of backups to make weekly decisions, but also keep owners looking at the wire. Remember, we already have the league at 14 owners, so big rosters hamper the pool greatly.The set up shown once the site is all done, but we need everyone to confirm and answer their PM first. *cough cough* Only waiting for 3 of you to respond!!!

Scoring for every yard is better, as it doesn't rob anyone if they are missing 1 little yard (such as 9 yards or 24 yards). When done the way it's below, they usually far less ties as it's much harder to do.

The weighted PPR is very interesting and we could decide to do that, as a few have pointed it out via PM. I'll say that making all the position even takes away a lot of the strategy though. Part of the drafting is knowing when to take a certain player (position) because of the value they represent. If they are all more equal, then not much thinking behind it...at least that is my impression.

Rules for QB, RB, WR, TE, PK

Number of Passing TDs = 6 points each

Passing Yards = .04 point for every 1 yard (basically 1 per 25 yds)

Pass Interceptions Thrown = -1 point each

Passing 2 Pointers = 2 points each

Number of Rushing TDs = 6 points each

Rushing Yards = .10 point for every 1 yard (basically 1 per 10 yds)

Rushing 2 Pointers = 2 points each

Number of Receiving TDs = 6 points each

Receiving Yards = .10 point for every 1 yard (basically 1 per 10 yds)

Receptions = 1 point each or .5 pts each (hasn't been decided yet - could also incorporate the weighted ppr)

Receiving 2 Pointers = 2 points each

Number of Field Goals Made

Length of Field Goal Made 0-39 =3 pts

Length of Field Goal Made 40-49 = 4 pts

Length of Field Goal Made 50-59 = 5 pts

Length of Field Goal Made 60-99 = 6 pts

Number of Field Goals Missed = -1 point each

Extra Points = 1 point each

Extra Points Missed = -1 point each

Number of Punt Return TDs = 6 points each

Number of Kickoff Return TDs = 6 points each

Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) = -1 point each

Rules for Def

Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) = 2 points each

Interceptions Caught = 2 points each

Blocked Field Goals = 1 point each

Blocked Punts = 1 point each

Blocked Extra Points = 1 point each

Sacked a QB = 2 points each

Safeties = 2 points each

Total Points Allowed 0-0 = 7

Total Points Allowed 1-6 = 5

Total Points Allowed 7-14 = 3

Total Points Allowed 15-28 = 0

Total Points Allowed 29-99 = -3

Total Net Yards Allowed 0-199 = 5

Total Net Yards Allowed 200-299 = 3

Total Net Yards Allowed 300-399 = 0

Total Net Yards Allowed 400-999 = -3

Number of Defensive & Special Teams TDs = 6 points each

Formations

1 QB

1 RB

3 WR

1 TE

1 PK

1 D/ST

1 FLEX (RB, WR, TE)

That means any of the following is legit:

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 D/ST

1 QB, 1 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 D/ST

1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 1 PK, 1 D/ST

 

[fatness]

I'm in several 14-team leagues with 20-man rosters, and there's nothing much on the waiver wire. Smaller rosters are better, they let people make moves and improve their teams. I do think a 14-man roster is too small, especially considering bye weeks. 15 or 16 tops, just my 2 cents.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I'll pick 1st

 

[dgreen]

Would you guys mind doing most of your league talk in another thread?

 

[buster c]

Would you guys mind doing most of your league talk in another thread?

buzz kill

 

[Bizkiteer]

Would you guys mind doing most of your league talk in another thread?

I know it's been overwhelming considering the posts in this thread. It should stop shortly once we get on our own email chain & MFL site. My apologies for the hi-jack in this thread because that is not the intent. Not much posting about 'Skins lately though as the under 200 total yds of offense in the last game kind of put a speed bump in the road. Here's hoping that we have a better showing vs/ the Steelers.

 

[fatness]

Would you guys mind doing most of your league talk in another thread?

Sure. We wouldn't want to liven up discussion or anything. Bizkiteer is more polite than I am. I don't apologize for talking about it here. Once the league starts up 90% of the talk will be on the league site. That's why we chose MFL, so we can chat there easily. There's not one bit of Redskin discussion that the league talk stopped. The last loss was discouraging, the Steelers are up next and we all expect just about the same result, there were no player moves this week, so what harm exactly has been done?Jeez.

 

[dgreen]

Would you guys mind doing most of your league talk in another thread?

Sure. We wouldn't want to liven up discussion or anything. Bizkiteer is more polite than I am. I don't apologize for talking about it here. Once the league starts up 90% of the talk will be on the league site. That's why we chose MFL, so we can chat there easily. There's not one bit of Redskin discussion that the league talk stopped. The last loss was discouraging, the Steelers are up next and we all expect just about the same result, there were no player moves this week, so what harm exactly has been done?Jeez.

Oof. Nevermind. You are obviously free to have this discussion wherever you want. It was just a request. Sorry.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer (confirmed)

2. ChrisCooleyFan (confirmed)

3. pablito (confirmed)

4. sinatravolta (confirmed)

5. Ripleys (confirmed)

6. Dexter Manley (confirmed)

7. Fatness (confirmed)

8. southeastjerome (confirmed)

9. FAM (confirmed)

10. buster c (confirmed)

11. crnerblitz (confirmed)

12. Brunell4MVP (confirmed)

13. Marvelous (confirmed)

14. Go DC Yourself (confirmed)

If anyone backs out:

backup #1 - TankRizzo

backup #2 - nittanylion

Everyone else has been GREAT and very responsive...if that is any sign of things to come, this league is gonna rock!

 

[fatness]

Redskins safeties coach Steve Jackson has coached or played the position in the NFL for all but one year beginning in 1991. And Jackson says that his guy, LaRon Landry, is better than Pittsburgh all-everything safety Troy Polamalu, who comes to town with the world champion Steelers on Saturday.

"I'd take LaRon over [Polamalu], any day," Jackson said. "They would probably rather have Polamalu because he does do the things like a linebacker with the blitzing ... But when you watch him play true free safety, it's not even close in my humble opinion as far who the better safety is."

David ElfinNice thing for Jackson to say about his player but his timing is a bit iffy.

 

[fatness]

Sounds like they're trying to get Landry motivated.

Redskins defensive coordinator Greg Blache expects free safety LaRon Landry to play this season like the sixth pick in the draft that he was in 2007.

"This could be a real breakout year for him. He's healthy. He's got the position figured out. We'd like to see the big plays. We'd like to see LaRon with six, eight picks, with some of those big hits, with some big [pass] breakups. We'd like to see LaRon really create fear in the hearts of quarterbacks where they don't want to throw the ball deep down the middle or even down the sideline."

David Elfin

 

[TankRizzo]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer (confirmed)

2. ChrisCooleyFan (confirmed)

3. pablito (confirmed)

4. sinatravolta (confirmed)

5. Ripleys (confirmed)

6. Dexter Manley (confirmed)

7. Fatness (confirmed)

8. southeastjerome (confirmed)

9. FAM (confirmed)

10. buster c (confirmed)

11. crnerblitz (confirmed)

12. Brunell4MVP (confirmed)

13. nittanylion

14. TankRizzo???

If anyone backs out:

backup #1 - Marvelous

backup #2 - Go DC Yourself

NO / Scaredy Cats

DCThunder

T Bell

Sebowski

dgreen

lowen1

tobias funke

sidewinder16

Here is how we currently stand. I am still waiting (insert Jeopardy theme) for nittanylion and TankRizzo to reply to the PM's sent a day ago. Everyone else has been GREAT and very responsive...if that is any sign of things to come, this league is gonna rock! We do have two guys as back-ups in case one of the three have changed their minds or if someone has to drop out for any reason.

Sorry, crunch time at work yesterday and I didn't have a chance to read things thoroughly here. The current proposed date is potentially a little sketchy for me, I'll be in Vegas for another fantasy draft at that time and didn't plan on bringing my laptop. If one of the backups has a better schedule and would like the spot I'll gladly defer to them. If not I'd also happily bring my laptop and work it out. So I guess right now just move me to the back of the line for alternates.

 

[nittanylion]

Sorry for the delayed decision, gents - spent most of last night on the phone with my High-Stakes Partner hashing out our schedule of Drafts...

I have a Local High-Stakes Draft on Monday, Aug. 31, 2 NFFC Drafts on Saturday, Sept. 5, 2 AFFL Drafts on Sunday Sept. 6 and 3 AFFL Drafts on Monday September 7.

I think my S.O. and family might emasculate me if I dedicate another day/night that week to FF.

Tough decision, because this is going to be plenty of fun, but it looks like I'm reluctantly stuck on the outside looking in for this one.

The thing is, I'll be online, available and willing to stand in if anyone has an emergency conflict at the last minute and needs a surrogate Drafter. I can make an excuse for that. I LOVE to Draft, I'm pretty damn good at it, and I've filled that role for the DC/Balt/Philly Auction League for the last 2 Years.

So put me down for last minute emergency fill-in surrogate Drafter.

I'll PM Biz my phone #, and if something comes up, he can call me with the MFL log-in information, and I'll jump right into the fray.

Best of Luck to you guys. :sadpickle:

 

[Bizkiteer]

Sorry for the delayed decision, gents - spent most of last night on the phone with my High-Stakes Partner hashing out our schedule of Drafts...I have a Local High-Stakes Draft on Monday, Aug. 31, 2 NFFC Drafts on Saturday, Sept. 5, 2 AFFL Drafts on Sunday Sept. 6 and 3 AFFL Drafts on Monday September 7.I think my S.O. and family might emasculate me if I dedicate another day/night that week to FF.Tough decision, because this is going to be plenty of fun, but it looks like I'm reluctantly stuck on the outside looking in for this one.The thing is, I'll be online, available and willing to stand in if anyone has an emergency conflict at the last minute and needs a surrogate Drafter. I can make an excuse for that. I LOVE to Draft, I'm pretty damn good at it, and I've filled that role for the DC/Balt/Philly Auction League for the last 2 Years.So put me down for last minute emergency fill-in surrogate Drafter.I'll PM Biz my phone #, and if something comes up, he can call me with the MFL log-in information, and I'll jump right into the fray.Best of Luck to you guys. :sadpickle:

That is cool and upfront. I think everyone can understand your situation. I'll keep you in the wings and turn on the Bat beacon, if needed. Thx!

 

[Bizkiteer]

Let's see now...the list (interested/committed) stands:

IN

1. Bizkiteer (confirmed)

2. ChrisCooleyFan (confirmed)

3. pablito (confirmed)

4. sinatravolta (confirmed)

5. Ripleys (confirmed)

6. Dexter Manley (confirmed)

7. Fatness (confirmed)

8. southeastjerome (confirmed)

9. FAM (confirmed)

10. buster c (confirmed)

11. crnerblitz (confirmed)

12. Brunell4MVP (confirmed)

13. Marvelous (confirmed)

14. Go DC Yourself (confirmed)

If anyone backs out:

backup #1 - TankRizzo

backup #2 - nittanylion

Everyone else has been GREAT and very responsive...if that is any sign of things to come, this league is gonna rock!

TA DAH!!! We are set...expect the email chain to follow shortly.

 

[dgreen]

From Jason Reid:

When the season begins, the Redskins plans for top corner DeAngelo Hall to assume Springs's former duties in the slot.

So, will that leave Fred "I give 20 yards of cushion" Smoot on the outside? Tryon? Barnes?