***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Couple of things.

Who will be our next coach?

a. Skeletor

b. Holmgren

c. Cowher

d. Meyer

e. Carroll

f. Grimm

g. Jim Harbaugh

h. Dungy

I. Chucky

j. some other jack hole

k. Boy Blunder

l. other

Who will be our next qb?

a. JC

b. TC

c. Colt

d. Bradford

e. McCoy

f. Jesus aka Teablow

g. Hiller

h. LeFevour

i. some over priced FA. (and man that list sucks)

Also I have no problem saying goodbye to Blache. He is a nice guy, but his blitz packages blow.

And I would love to see this team change to a 3-4.

 

[dgreen]

Good stuff from Jason Reid. He'll soon be on Snyder's #### list.

Is it Zorn's fault the people in charge of player personnel have not appropriately addressed an offensive line clearly in need of help? I don't think it can be overstated what a bad job management has done constructing and replenishing the offensive line.

Link

Just before that, Reid says this:

In the biggest addition for the offensive line, the Redskins signed tackle Mike Williams, who hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2005.

Um, Dockery down? Yes, his overall point (F.O. failed to properly address the OL) is accurate, although it is old news. But, that's a pretty huge error for him to say Mike Williams is the "biggest addition for the offensive line", unless he's literally referring to the amount of space Williams occupies.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Couple of things. Who will be our next coach?a. Skeletorb. Holmgrenc. Cowherd. Meyere. Carrollf. Grimmg. Jim Harbaughh. DungyI. Chuckyj. some other jack holek. Boy Blunderl. otherWho will be our next qb?a. JCb. TCc. Coltd. Bradforde. McCoyf. Jesus aka Teablowg. Hillerh. LeFevouri. some over priced FA. (and man that list sucks)Also I have no problem saying goodbye to Blache. He is a nice guy, but his blitz packages blow. And I would love to see this team change to a 3-4.

I'll take A or I with D or Snead, please.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Couple of things. Who will be our next coach?a. Skeletorb. Holmgrenc. Cowherd. Meyere. Carrollf. Grimmg. Jim Harbaughh. DungyI. Chuckyj. some other jack holek. Boy Blunderl. otherWho will be our next qb?a. JCb. TCc. Coltd. Bradforde. McCoyf. Jesus aka Teablowg. Hillerh. LeFevouri. some over priced FA. (and man that list sucks)Also I have no problem saying goodbye to Blache. He is a nice guy, but his blitz packages blow. And I would love to see this team change to a 3-4.

PLEASE NO CHUCKIE!!!! I can't stand the guy and that is before he started doing MNF. Being in central FL, I got hear far too much w/ TB, but now that he's talking all the time on MNF....JUST SAY NO!!!!!!Coach = A (will still let DanMan keep Boy Blunder in the FO in some type of capacity)QB = D (we'll have low enough pick to get him)

 

[DCThunder]

Couple of things. Who will be our next coach?a. Skeletorb. Holmgrenc. Cowherd. Meyere. Carrollf. Grimmg. Jim Harbaughh. DungyI. Chuckyj. some other jack holek. Boy Blunderl. otherWho will be our next qb?a. JCb. TCc. Coltd. Bradforde. McCoyf. Jesus aka Teablowg. Hillerh. LeFevouri. some over priced FA. (and man that list sucks)Also I have no problem saying goodbye to Blache. He is a nice guy, but his blitz packages blow. And I would love to see this team change to a 3-4.

PLEASE NO CHUCKIE!!!! I can't stand the guy and that is before he started doing MNF. Being in central FL, I got hear far too much w/ TB, but now that he's talking all the time on MNF....JUST SAY NO!!!!!!Coach = A (will still let DanMan keep Boy Blunder in the FO in some type of capacity)QB = D (we'll have low enough pick to get him)

How about Charley Weiss after he gets run out of Notre Dame. He is a Belichekian genius, after all, and he could bring Jimmy Claussen with him. After all, Brady Quinn is lighting it up in Cleveland...

 

[fatness]

Just before that, Reid says this:

In the biggest addition for the offensive line, the Redskins signed tackle Mike Williams, who hasn't played in a regular-season game since 2005.

Um, Dockery down? Yes, his overall point (F.O. failed to properly address the OL) is accurate, although it is old news. But, that's a pretty huge error for him to say Mike Williams is the "biggest addition for the offensive line", unless he's literally referring to the amount of space Williams occupies.

I noticed that and that's part of what caught my eye. Jason Reid knows this of course; he's done articles on Dockery. He was typing in such haste that he forgot it. And the reason he was typing in haste is because he was ticked off, more than I've ever seen him display before. Just my reading on it.

 

[fatness]

If the Redskins lose to Detroit I think they'll fire Zorn.

I said it.

 

[nittanylion]

Mark my words: don't be surprised, if Danny decides to make wholesale changes, that he brings aboard none other than Joe Theismann to either work alongside Vinny as Director of Pro Player Personnel, OR replace him as VP of Football Ops entirely...

...and you didn't hear this from me...

It's really sad what's going on. Zorn deserved a shot as an Offensive Co-ordinator, sure...but it's becoming increasingly apparent that, as a Head Coach, with no prior experience as a Co-ordinator, he's in way over his head. Strangely enough, the 'in over his head' part is only glaringly obvious on Game Day. The way I'm hearing it, he runs good practices, has good rapport and communication with the Coaches and Players...everything going on away from the field (the Game Day field) is actually going pretty close to a 'normal' football organization during the week leading up to the Game...

...there's good reason why things are done the way they typically are in the NFL - you move from excelling as a Position Coach into a Co-ordinatorship, and then onto Head Coach, and a critical part of that process is 'Time Served' in the previous role, just to have a better idea of what the job in front of you entails.

I hear Zorn is doing fine during the week, and I hear that come GameDay, he's just simply overwhelmed, because he doesn't have anyone on the Coaching Staff that he trusts with his 'life' to delegate things to, like an experienced Head Coach would. Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell have no more experience than he does, Blache has his hands full with the D, and Danny Smith, is, well, Danny Smith the Special Teams Coach...for good reason. It's like a vicious circle: Zorn knows he's under scrutiny and pressure from above, and his job security is in doubt if things don't soon improve...he's trying to be in control of more than he's capable of because he feels if he hands stuff over to someone else, and it fails, he'll be taken to task for it anyway. As a result, he's trying to manage too many things, and it's distracting him from simply managing the Game, to the point where mere Danny Smith the Special Teams Coach - who is no more qualified to be a Head Coach than anyone else on the current staff, make no mistake - has to point out things like Time Out Clock Management.

What Zorn needs most of all is a Mentor that he can trust, and bounce ideas off of on Game Day while the Game is in progress, someone to delegate things to, or at least keep him clued in on how a Head Coach needs to run things...in that regard, what I personally think the 'Shark Move' would be by Snyder and Co. would be to bring in Mike Holmgren to act in that capacity, since the Holmgren and Zorn already have a prior relationship from Seattle. I did a brief search and uncovered nothing that would lead me to believe that the relationship between the two is anything but solid...

...maybe along the way, the Mentor Holmgren clues Zorn in to the fact that he's in over his head and not ready for the Role yet, but under Holmgren's tutelage, might one day be...voila, Holmgren is named Head Coach after this Season, with Zorn as his Offensive Co-ordinator...

...and I don't have a problem with that.

 

[dgreen]

Mark my words: don't be surprised, if Danny decides to make wholesale changes, that he brings aboard none other than Joe Theismann to either work alongside Vinny as Director of Pro Player Personnel, OR replace him as VP of Football Ops entirely...

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Mark my words: don't be surprised, if Danny decides to make wholesale changes, that he brings aboard none other than Joe Theismann to either work alongside Vinny as Director of Pro Player Personnel, OR replace him as VP of Football Ops entirely......and you didn't hear this from me... It's really sad what's going on. Zorn deserved a shot as an Offensive Co-ordinator, sure...but it's becoming increasingly apparent that, as a Head Coach, with no prior experience as a Co-ordinator, he's in way over his head. Strangely enough, the 'in over his head' part is only glaringly obvious on Game Day. The way I'm hearing it, he runs good practices, has good rapport and communication with the Coaches and Players...everything going on away from the field (the Game Day field) is actually going pretty close to a 'normal' football organization during the week leading up to the Game......there's good reason why things are done the way they typically are in the NFL - you move from excelling as a Position Coach into a Co-ordinatorship, and then onto Head Coach, and a critical part of that process is 'Time Served' in the previous role, just to have a better idea of what the job in front of you entails.I hear Zorn is doing fine during the week, and I hear that come GameDay, he's just simply overwhelmed, because he doesn't have anyone on the Coaching Staff that he trusts with his 'life' to delegate things to, like an experienced Head Coach would. Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell have no more experience than he does, Blache has his hands full with the D, and Danny Smith, is, well, Danny Smith the Special Teams Coach...for good reason. It's like a vicious circle: Zorn knows he's under scrutiny and pressure from above, and his job security is in doubt if things don't soon improve...he's trying to be in control of more than he's capable of because he feels if he hands stuff over to someone else, and it fails, he'll be taken to task for it anyway. As a result, he's trying to manage too many things, and it's distracting him from simply managing the Game, to the point where mere Danny Smith the Special Teams Coach - who is no more qualified to be a Head Coach than anyone else on the current staff, make no mistake - has to point out things like Time Out Clock Management.What Zorn needs most of all is a Mentor that he can trust, and bounce ideas off of on Game Day while the Game is in progress, someone to delegate things to, or at least keep him clued in on how a Head Coach needs to run things...in that regard, what I personally think the 'Shark Move' would be by Snyder and Co. would be to bring in Mike Holmgren to act in that capacity, since the Holmgren and Zorn already have a prior relationship from Seattle. I did a brief search and uncovered nothing that would lead me to believe that the relationship between the two is anything but solid......maybe along the way, the Mentor Holmgren clues Zorn in to the fact that he's in over his head and not ready for the Role yet, but under Holmgren's tutelage, might one day be...voila, Holmgren is named Head Coach after this Season, with Zorn as his Offensive Co-ordinator......and I don't have a problem with that.

Great info as always, nittany. Thanks.I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days. I don't think it needs to be Holmgren, however, as that would be a somewhat oppressive presence. What about a former QB he coached, like Difer, who could sit up in the booth and basically be a "spotter" for him for game situations, such as play clock issues, etc.?

 

[dgreen]

I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days. I don't think it needs to be Holmgren, however, as that would be a somewhat oppressive presence. What about a former QB he coached, like Difer, who could sit up in the booth and basically be a "spotter" for him for game situations, such as play clock issues, etc.?

As embarrassing as that was, that was only one clock issue. For the most part, he's been great with the clock.The problem is that a large portion of this coaching staff aren't Zorn's guys. If he doesn't trust anyone, that's probably why. I agree he doesn't need someone like Holmgren. He just needs someone he really wants.

 

[Marvelous]

Good stuff from Jason Reid. He'll soon be on Snyder's #### list.

The loss of Randy Thomas is another blow to an offensive line that has struggled to start the season. It was highly unlikely that Thomas, who underwent neck and knee surgeries in the offseason, would make it through the season. Offensive line coach Joe Bugel expressed concern about Thomas in the preseason after he experienced knee pain, and Coach Jim Zorn acknowledged that Thomas would have to take it easy at times during the week. And then Thomas suffers a season-ending torn right triceps against the Rams.

Right tackle Stephon Heyer has performed poorly in pass protection at key moments in the first two games and been ineffective in run blocking, league sources said, and center Casey Rabach was not especially effective in the running game against the Rams. Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels still is the team's best lineman, but how long will his knee hold up? Second-year guard Chad Rinehart showed promise at times in the preseason, and will move into the starting lineup in place of Thomas, but he has never played in a regular-season game.

In their internal offseason evaluation of the roster, the Redskins identified the offensive line as their main deficiency.

Is it Zorn's fault the people in charge of player personnel have not appropriately addressed an offensive line clearly in need of help? I don't think it can be overstated what a bad job management has done constructing and replenishing the offensive line.

Is it his fault he's working with a roster that doesn't have nearly the amount of talent as some of the people in the big offices at Redskins Park seem to believe? I mean, really, what's the expectation level around here with the way they've constructed the team?

Link

Oddly enough, the pass blocking, which was horrendous last year, really has been pretty good. I did notice that Heyer is definately a weak link in pass protection. You really can't claim that the pass blocking is holding the team back this year. I thought the run blocking was not good in the preseason and I still believe it is an issue.

 

[fatness]

I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days.

I don't. No other team hires advisers and nursemaids like the Redskins have a history of hiring. It's not effective and it's an additional confusing layer of advice and responsibility. Zorn needs to rise or fall on his own. And the first part of trying to make it on his own is for him to do less. Handing off some responsibility is not a bad thing. It's not like someone else would do worse with playcalling.

 

[buster c]

While I like Thomas, he's not what he was and they need to see what younger guys can do on that O-line. I

Most teams see what guys can do during the preseason. And in fact the Redskins did see what Rinehart could do. That's why they hid him in a closet all last year and made him inactive this year. Don't get me wrong, I'd like young guys to take over and step up and I'll be rooting for him to do well. But I don't think Rinehart is any good. I think he's closer to Helen Keller than to Russ Grimm.

Keller's no all-pro, but is solid enough as a drive blocker. She just struggles a bit on the counter-trey. You insult her even mentioning Rinehart in the same sentence.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days.

I don't. No other team hires advisers and nursemaids like the Redskins have a history of hiring. It's not effective and it's an additional confusing layer of advice and responsibility. Zorn needs to rise or fall on his own. And the first part of trying to make it on his own is for him to do less. Handing off some responsibility is not a bad thing. It's not like someone else would do worse with playcalling.

I'm not saying it should be forced on him, but he sounds like he needs someone to help him there. I fail to see why people like Stump Mitchell or Chris Meidt couldn't help him here.

 

[buster c]

Mark my words: don't be surprised, if Danny decides to make wholesale changes, that he brings aboard none other than Joe Theismann to either work alongside Vinny as Director of Pro Player Personnel, OR replace him as VP of Football Ops entirely......and you didn't hear this from me...

He's a bit of a dork, but I do not question his love for the Skins nor his passion for the game. I just can't shake the echo of him saying Santana Moss has the best hands in football. Would not bode well for player evaluations, IMO

 

[dgreen]

Mark my words: don't be surprised, if Danny decides to make wholesale changes, that he brings aboard none other than Joe Theismann to either work alongside Vinny as Director of Pro Player Personnel, OR replace him as VP of Football Ops entirely......and you didn't hear this from me...

He's a bit of a dork, but I do not question his love for the Skins nor his passion for the game. I just can't shake the echo of him saying Santana Moss has the best hands in football. Would not bode well for player evaluations, IMO

And he always compared Lavar to Ray Lewis.I think he would be a disaster alongside Vinny. As if the league needed another reason to make fun of us.

 

[dgreen]

I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days.

I don't. No other team hires advisers and nursemaids like the Redskins have a history of hiring. It's not effective and it's an additional confusing layer of advice and responsibility. Zorn needs to rise or fall on his own. And the first part of trying to make it on his own is for him to do less. Handing off some responsibility is not a bad thing. It's not like someone else would do worse with playcalling.

I'm not saying it should be forced on him, but he sounds like he needs someone to help him there. I fail to see why people like Stump Mitchell or Chris Meidt couldn't help him here.

I loved reading about Meidt when he was hired. I wish I knew more about his current role. From what I've read about him, I wouldn't doubt he has influenced decisions like going for it on two 4th downs in the 4th quarter when you have a lead.

 

[dgreen]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

 

[Sidewinder16]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Snyder was willing to fire Zorn during the season if he lost to good team (that eventually ended up in the NFC Championship game) but not after the season if he lost to one of the poorer '08 teams (although, admittedly, SF was going the opposite direction the 'Skins were at that time)???That makes no sense to me. Or is that the point?

 

[dgreen]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Snyder was willing to fire Zorn during the season if he lost to good team (that eventually ended up in the NFC Championship game) but not after the season if he lost to one of the poorer '08 teams (although, admittedly, SF was going the opposite direction the 'Skins were at that time)???That makes no sense to me. Or is that the point?

Not sure what the point is other than this is Bash Week for the Redskins.I can't imagine what next week will be like if they lose. I can't imagine how many no-shows there will be at the following game against the Bucs. I can't imagine what the booing will be like if they don't play well in that game.

 

[Sidewinder16]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Also from that blog post, in response to the 4th-and-1 running play that everyone is questioning the playcalling on:

Here's what I think: I spoke with several people in the organization about this, because I was perplexed about the decision to stick with that play when I noticed what the Rams were doing defensively.

On that play, Zorn instructed Campbell to run the play he called, several sources said. Despite what some people believe, Campbell does have the authority to change plays, even in the red zone, and he does at times. The deep pass down the right sideline to Malcolm Kelly to open the game stemmed from a call Campbell adjusted at the line of scrimmage.

But there are times Zorn wants to run the play he calls -- and that was one such occasion. Now, here's the rest of the story: the blocking assignments were messed up on the play. Center Casey Rabach made the correct call based on what the Redskins practiced that week, sources said, but someone else made an incorrect call after Rabach. The result was that the play was stretched, which was not Zorn's intention.

So, there may not be any trust issues between Zorn and Campbell in the red zone after all. If Reid has it right, that play almost certainly went wrong due to improper execution.

 

[Sidewinder16]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Snyder was willing to fire Zorn during the season if he lost to good team (that eventually ended up in the NFC Championship game) but not after the season if he lost to one of the poorer '08 teams (although, admittedly, SF was going the opposite direction the 'Skins were at that time)???That makes no sense to me. Or is that the point?

Not sure what the point is other than this is Bash Week for the Redskins.I can't imagine what next week will be like if they lose. I can't imagine how many no-shows there will be at the following game against the Bucs. I can't imagine what the booing will be like if they don't play well in that game.

It's extremely disheartening, and absolutely ridiculous, that the team has gotten to the point where a week 3 game against the Lions is a make or break game for the season.

 

[fatness]

So, there may not be any trust issues between Zorn and Campbell in the red zone after all. If Reid has it right, that play almost certainly went wrong due to improper execution.

I think there's a trust issue when the QB is hardly ever asked to throw into the end zone.And if all the Redskin goalline plays go wrong due to improper execution, where does that leave things? Zorn's job is to call something that will work. There are execution errors on almost all offensive plays, inlcuding those that result in TD's.

 

[fatness]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

This has been talked about on ESPN980 as something that's been widely known for a long time.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

So, there may not be any trust issues between Zorn and Campbell in the red zone after all. If Reid has it right, that play almost certainly went wrong due to improper execution.

I think there's a trust issue when the QB is hardly ever asked to throw into the end zone.And if all the Redskin goalline plays go wrong due to improper execution, where does that leave things? Zorn's job is to call something that will work. There are execution errors on almost all offensive plays, inlcuding those that result in TD's.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

This has been talked about on ESPN980 as something that's been widely known for a long time.

I have no idea if that's true, but if it is . . .

 

[Bizkiteer]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk...oster_57822.jsp

Redskins Re-sign Alridge to Roster

The Redskins have brought back running back Anthony Alridge, signing him to the roster from the Houston Texans’ practice squad, the team announced on Tuesday.

Alridge takes the roster spot of Randy Thomas, who has been placed on the injured reserve list with a torn triceps.

Alridge spent training camp and preseason with the Redskins and impressed with his game-breaking speed. He struggled with fumbles, however, and did not make the Redskins’ final 53-man roster.

Alridge played in two preseason games with the Redskins and totaled 10 rushes for 46 yards. He also caught three passes for 34 yards.

He returned two kickoffs for 35 yards in the preseason finale at Jacksonville. He had a costly fumble on one of the kick returns and it was returned three yards for a ouchdown by the Jaguars.

The Redskins originally claimed Alridge off waivers from the Denver Broncos on Feb. 12, 2009.

Alridge, 5-9 and 185 pounds, spent the 2008 season on the Broncos’ injured reserve list with a foot injury. He joined the Broncos as an undrafted rookie free agent from the University of Houston.

As a senior at Houston, Alridge rushed for 1,597 yards and 14 touchdowns and caught 42 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns.

With the addition of Alridge, the Redskins are carrying five running backs on the roster.

The team has nine offensive linemen, plus one on the practice squad.

 

[thayman]

I like the idea about the angel on Zorn's shoulder on game days.

I don't. No other team hires advisers and nursemaids like the Redskins have a history of hiring. It's not effective and it's an additional confusing layer of advice and responsibility. Zorn needs to rise or fall on his own. And the first part of trying to make it on his own is for him to do less. Handing off some responsibility is not a bad thing. It's not like someone else would do worse with playcalling.

It's a stupid idea to give him a mentor. If Zorn is that much of a R-Tard just fire him now.I vote for Cowher, give him complete personnel control.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk...oster_57822.jsp

Redskins Re-sign Alridge to Roster

The Redskins have brought back running back Anthony Alridge, signing him to the roster from the Houston Texans’ practice squad, the team announced on Tuesday.

Alridge takes the roster spot of Randy Thomas, who has been placed on the injured reserve list with a torn triceps.

Alridge spent training camp and preseason with the Redskins and impressed with his game-breaking speed. He struggled with fumbles, however, and did not make the Redskins’ final 53-man roster.

Alridge played in two preseason games with the Redskins and totaled 10 rushes for 46 yards. He also caught three passes for 34 yards.

He returned two kickoffs for 35 yards in the preseason finale at Jacksonville. He had a costly fumble on one of the kick returns and it was returned three yards for a ouchdown by the Jaguars.

The Redskins originally claimed Alridge off waivers from the Denver Broncos on Feb. 12, 2009.

Alridge, 5-9 and 185 pounds, spent the 2008 season on the Broncos’ injured reserve list with a foot injury. He joined the Broncos as an undrafted rookie free agent from the University of Houston.

As a senior at Houston, Alridge rushed for 1,597 yards and 14 touchdowns and caught 42 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns.

With the addition of Alridge, the Redskins are carrying five running backs on the roster.

The team has nine offensive linemen, plus one on the practice squad.

That's . . . bizarre.

 

[fatness]

Portis, refusing to blame the coach

(On coach Jim Zorn): "It's not Jim Zorn's play calls that weren't successful. ... Santana was 60 yards downfield wide open and that was the one time Will Montgomery broke down in pressure -- he just got overpowered on the play and it wasn't like he missed his assignment. If we execute the play, Coach Zorn is a great play caller. When we're not executing and dropping passes, it makes it look like, 'Why did he call that play?'

(On lack of big plays): "We moved the ball well in both games, it's just our red zone that we have to improve on. As far as moving the ball up and down the field, we do that. The thing that hurts us is our starting field position. We need 10- and 12-play drives to get a touchdown. We need to find a way to have a 1- or 2-play strike. We haven't had many big plays. Until we develop that, teams are going to continue think we'll self-explode -- penalties, dropped pass, not convert on third down and kick a field goal. Until we get that right, it's going to be hard to do anything. Our drives have been so long."

 

[fatness]

Jim Zorn just completed his radio segment on 980 and the only real news is that he confirmed Pete Kendall isn’t under consideration at this point to come back as the right guard.

We start with the Will Jim Get Fired portion of the interview ...

*(On job security impacted by Detroit game): "I won’t even answer that question. I’m trying to get ready for Detroit. I’m not worried about my job."

Link

 

[buster c]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Snyder was willing to fire Zorn during the season if he lost to good team (that eventually ended up in the NFC Championship game) but not after the season if he lost to one of the poorer '08 teams (although, admittedly, SF was going the opposite direction the 'Skins were at that time)???That makes no sense to me. Or is that the point?

Not sure what the point is other than this is Bash Week for the Redskins.I can't imagine what next week will be like if they lose. I can't imagine how many no-shows there will be at the following game against the Bucs. I can't imagine what the booing will be like if they don't play well in that game.

win or lose, I've got free club level passes and free parking for the Buc game but I got one rule: I never boo the home team. Under any circumstance.

 

[fatness]

Rich Tandler was on the Sports Reporters today with Pollin and Czaban, and it was a hell of a good show. Those 3 are great on radio together. Tandler has a new book out, which supposedly not only describes many Redskin games but the stories during the week leading up to, and during, the games.

http://redskinschronicle.com/

I may have to take up reading again.

 

[fatness]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

I think it probably is, if they find an O-lineman to add.

 

[buster c]

*(On second fourth-down call late in game): "I had three timeouts so I wanted to use one there and take a breath and think about the situation. We felt like we could get the first down and picked out what I felt was the best play, running right behind Chris Samuels. What happened on the line of scrimmage, our offensive line decided to block it out a little more instead of more downhill and it strung the play out. It was a very frustrating play to watch because had we blocked it differently – and it’s their choice – it might have been a different outcome. If I was to look back on that call, I would call the same play."remember that Gordon Gecko line in WallStreet:if this guy owned a funeral home, no one would die!

 

[fatness]

Here's what happened: Again, Zorn seemed to be reluctant to open up the playbook against the Rams. He often has appeared tentative in calling games since the second-half collapse of last season.

Here's what I think: I would be tentative in his situation as well. Look, Zorn knows what's going on. I expect Snyder to fire Zorn if he doesn't at least lead the Redskins to the playoffs (winning a postseason game wouldn't hurt, either), and that's not a good working environment for anyone.

When the Redskins started 6-2 under Zorn in 2008, many players told me how much they liked his aggressive play-calling. He took deep shots, went for it on fourth down and put the ball in Campbell's hands to seal victories.

That seems like years ago. Zorn needs to start taking chances like he did early in his first season. Things are really lining up against him, so why not come out swinging and see what happens?

Jason Reid

 

[fatness]

Zorn's exchange with Sonny Jurgensen after the week 1 loss to the Giants:

Sonny Jurgensen: Again, one offensive touchdown.

Zorn: Thank you (looks to Michael).

Jurgensen: I mean, this is something we've been talking about. You know, you've got to get into the end zone.

Zorn: Yes (looks to Michael).

Zorn's exchange with Sonny Jurgensen after the week 2 win over the Rams.

"Third down, I'm the quarterback, and you call the halfback throwing the ball for me, I'm calling timeout or calling an audible," Jurgensen said. "I'm not letting the halfback throw it. That's what you pay me for."

"Well then, I would have to take you out of the game," Zorn countered. "As soon as you called timeout, I'd say what's wrong with my play, because...."

"It didn't work!" Jurgensen interrupted.

There was a long pause.

"No, but I called it to work. Alright?" Zorn said. "We called it to work. It didn't work. There were a lot of plays out there that didn't work. And I'd take you out of the game. Sorry, Sonny."

"Sorry, Sonny"

 

[buster c]

Breaking Down Juim Zorn's Failed Timeout

fats:A classic link. This sums up everything.

Mods, please close the thread.

Thanks.

your pal,

buster

 

[TankRizzo]

Reading this last page here is like we're in the offseason already

Joe T coming in to replace Vinny would be lunacy. Reminds me of when Miami did the same for Marino....except nobody would question the move or Theisman's credentials to hold such a position at all like they did with Marino. Business as usual for the 'skins.

I can't see Holmgren scenario with him coming in as mentor and easing into HC happening. You just don't see guys taking a demotion like that in the NFL, and I don't really think Holmgren would do that to Zorn. All of this Zorn stuff is playing out exactly like Spurrier though. Maybe not quite as bad as spurrier, but it's kind of bad. Rather than surrounding himself with veteran coordinators he called up a buddy with about as much experience as him at this level. The only saving grace is the D-coordinator. Blache isn't perfect, but he keeps the scores low, and if he wasn't here things would be REALLY ugly. Post-game interviews are also reminiscent of Spurrier. You can tell he just wants to get the hell out of there, cliches and excuses flow like wine and they're generally very uncomfortable to watch. Zorn isn't going to lay down and phone in a resignation from the golf course though, he's passionate and wants to be doing this but is just way too overwhelmed and he has nobody to point him in the right direction.

Right now I still think Shanahan is the most likely one for the job. The situation in Carolina is lining up for Cowher to come in there, if that job opens up there's no way in hell he would even field an offer from Snyder. Only thing that may throw a wrench in the Shanahan acquisition is Dallas...if that job opens up the bidding war will be ridiculous....and if Snyder loses it, welcome back to crazytown and another "diligent" search for the next head coach.

....and we're only going into Week 3....it's going to be a long...interesting season.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Rich Tandler was on the Sports Reporters today with Pollin and Czaban, and it was a hell of a good show. Those 3 are great on radio together. Tandler has a new book out, which supposedly not only describes many Redskin games but the stories during the week leading up to, and during, the games.

http://redskinschronicle.com/

I may have to take up reading again.

I knew you never read anyone else's posts! I knew it!

 

[Marvelous]

Reading this last page here is like we're in the offseason already

Joe T coming in to replace Vinny would be lunacy. Reminds me of when Miami did the same for Marino....except nobody would question the move or Theisman's credentials to hold such a position at all like they did with Marino. Business as usual for the 'skins.

I can't see Holmgren scenario with him coming in as mentor and easing into HC happening. You just don't see guys taking a demotion like that in the NFL, and I don't really think Holmgren would do that to Zorn. All of this Zorn stuff is playing out exactly like Spurrier though. Maybe not quite as bad as spurrier, but it's kind of bad. Rather than surrounding himself with veteran coordinators he called up a buddy with about as much experience as him at this level. The only saving grace is the D-coordinator. Blache isn't perfect, but he keeps the scores low, and if he wasn't here things would be REALLY ugly. Post-game interviews are also reminiscent of Spurrier. You can tell he just wants to get the hell out of there, cliches and excuses flow like wine and they're generally very uncomfortable to watch. Zorn isn't going to lay down and phone in a resignation from the golf course though, he's passionate and wants to be doing this but is just way too overwhelmed and he has nobody to point him in the right direction.

Right now I still think Shanahan is the most likely one for the job. The situation in Carolina is lining up for Cowher to come in there, if that job opens up there's no way in hell he would even field an offer from Snyder. Only thing that may throw a wrench in the Shanahan acquisition is Dallas...if that job opens up the bidding war will be ridiculous....and if Snyder loses it, welcome back to crazytown and another "diligent" search for the next head coach.

....and we're only going into Week 3....it's going to be a long...interesting season.

My predictions:Zorn is fired at the end of the season

Snyder courts every big name and gets turned down by Shanahan and Cowher

Fassel believes he is the leading candidate again

Redskins hire an potential up and coming assistant that is on no one's list

Vinny somehow gets another promotion out of it

As long as they keep the Danny/Vinny front office structure, they will not get a big name head coach.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Reading this last page here is like we're in the offseason already

This is one of those weeks when I'm glad I don't live in DC and I stay away from Extremeskins except for the Breaking News section.

 

[Marvelous]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk...oster_57822.jsp

Redskins Re-sign Alridge to Roster

The Redskins have brought back running back Anthony Alridge, signing him to the roster from the Houston Texans’ practice squad, the team announced on Tuesday.

Alridge takes the roster spot of Randy Thomas, who has been placed on the injured reserve list with a torn triceps.

Alridge spent training camp and preseason with the Redskins and impressed with his game-breaking speed. He struggled with fumbles, however, and did not make the Redskins’ final 53-man roster.

Alridge played in two preseason games with the Redskins and totaled 10 rushes for 46 yards. He also caught three passes for 34 yards.

He returned two kickoffs for 35 yards in the preseason finale at Jacksonville. He had a costly fumble on one of the kick returns and it was returned three yards for a ouchdown by the Jaguars.

The Redskins originally claimed Alridge off waivers from the Denver Broncos on Feb. 12, 2009.

Alridge, 5-9 and 185 pounds, spent the 2008 season on the Broncos’ injured reserve list with a foot injury. He joined the Broncos as an undrafted rookie free agent from the University of Houston.

As a senior at Houston, Alridge rushed for 1,597 yards and 14 touchdowns and caught 42 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns.

With the addition of Alridge, the Redskins are carrying five running backs on the roster.

The team has nine offensive linemen, plus one on the practice squad.

I can't see them cutting Rock at this point. He plays all 4 special teams. And if he is not returning kickoffs, he would probably do something else of value on kick off returns.I though something might be up with Betts or Mason. I was surprised Mason was active last week and actually got 3 carries.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk...oster_57822.jsp

Redskins Re-sign Alridge to Roster

The Redskins have brought back running back Anthony Alridge, signing him to the roster from the Houston Texans’ practice squad, the team announced on Tuesday.

Alridge takes the roster spot of Randy Thomas, who has been placed on the injured reserve list with a torn triceps.

Alridge spent training camp and preseason with the Redskins and impressed with his game-breaking speed. He struggled with fumbles, however, and did not make the Redskins’ final 53-man roster.

Alridge played in two preseason games with the Redskins and totaled 10 rushes for 46 yards. He also caught three passes for 34 yards.

He returned two kickoffs for 35 yards in the preseason finale at Jacksonville. He had a costly fumble on one of the kick returns and it was returned three yards for a ouchdown by the Jaguars.

The Redskins originally claimed Alridge off waivers from the Denver Broncos on Feb. 12, 2009.

Alridge, 5-9 and 185 pounds, spent the 2008 season on the Broncos’ injured reserve list with a foot injury. He joined the Broncos as an undrafted rookie free agent from the University of Houston.

As a senior at Houston, Alridge rushed for 1,597 yards and 14 touchdowns and caught 42 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns.

With the addition of Alridge, the Redskins are carrying five running backs on the roster.

The team has nine offensive linemen, plus one on the practice squad.

I can't see them cutting Rock at this point. He plays all 4 special teams. And if he is not returning kickoffs, he would probably do something else of value on kick off returns.I though something might be up with Betts or Mason. I was surprised Mason was active last week and actually got 3 carries.

I agree. Rock is safe. Hell, he's one of the special teams captains, and that's one of the few areas of the team nobody's talking complaining about. I think either Betts or Mason got injured.

 

[dgreen]

A source told Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan that Mason is safe. He's staying on the 53-man roster.

Alridge took Thomas' roster spot, so I'm not totally sure why there's so much talk about who will be cut. They don't need to cut anyone...right now. But, I do think Rock is gone whenever they make their next move.

 

[dgreen]

*(On second fourth-down call late in game): "I had three timeouts so I wanted to use one there and take a breath and think about the situation. We felt like we could get the first down and picked out what I felt was the best play, running right behind Chris Samuels. What happened on the line of scrimmage, our offensive line decided to block it out a little more instead of more downhill and it strung the play out. It was a very frustrating play to watch because had we blocked it differently – and it’s their choice – it might have been a different outcome. If I was to look back on that call, I would call the same play."remember that Gordon Gecko line in WallStreet:if this guy owned a funeral home, no one would die!

 

[dgreen]

From Jason Reid:

Several people have told me Snyder was prepared to fire Zorn if the Redskins had lost to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 16 at FedEx last season. They won.

Snyder was willing to fire Zorn during the season if he lost to good team (that eventually ended up in the NFC Championship game) but not after the season if he lost to one of the poorer '08 teams (although, admittedly, SF was going the opposite direction the 'Skins were at that time)???That makes no sense to me. Or is that the point?

Not sure what the point is other than this is Bash Week for the Redskins.I can't imagine what next week will be like if they lose. I can't imagine how many no-shows there will be at the following game against the Bucs. I can't imagine what the booing will be like if they don't play well in that game.

win or lose, I've got free club level passes and free parking for the Buc game but I got one rule: I never boo the home team. Under any circumstance.

Not sure if I'll be at that one yet. If I am, I meet be booing.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Redskins just signed A. Alridge to the active roster, he was on the Texans PS. So, since DT was returning KO's and now Alridge is on the active roster...is Rock's time up?

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redsk...oster_57822.jsp

Redskins Re-sign Alridge to Roster

The Redskins have brought back running back Anthony Alridge, signing him to the roster from the Houston Texans’ practice squad, the team announced on Tuesday.

Alridge takes the roster spot of Randy Thomas, who has been placed on the injured reserve list with a torn triceps.

Alridge spent training camp and preseason with the Redskins and impressed with his game-breaking speed. He struggled with fumbles, however, and did not make the Redskins’ final 53-man roster.

Alridge played in two preseason games with the Redskins and totaled 10 rushes for 46 yards. He also caught three passes for 34 yards.

He returned two kickoffs for 35 yards in the preseason finale at Jacksonville. He had a costly fumble on one of the kick returns and it was returned three yards for a ouchdown by the Jaguars.

The Redskins originally claimed Alridge off waivers from the Denver Broncos on Feb. 12, 2009.

Alridge, 5-9 and 185 pounds, spent the 2008 season on the Broncos’ injured reserve list with a foot injury. He joined the Broncos as an undrafted rookie free agent from the University of Houston.

As a senior at Houston, Alridge rushed for 1,597 yards and 14 touchdowns and caught 42 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns.

With the addition of Alridge, the Redskins are carrying five running backs on the roster.

The team has nine offensive linemen, plus one on the practice squad.

I can't see them cutting Rock at this point. He plays all 4 special teams. And if he is not returning kickoffs, he would probably do something else of value on kick off returns.I though something might be up with Betts or Mason. I was surprised Mason was active last week and actually got 3 carries.

I agree. Rock is safe. Hell, he's one of the special teams captains, and that's one of the few areas of the team nobody's talking complaining about. I think either Betts or Mason got injured.

Ok, let's fix that as I will complain about Rock as I always have...someone needs to tell him the objective is to run away from the opposing team. Rock has a knack of running straight to the closest opposing team player on almost every return. I understand that he has little wiggle, but come on Rock...study the color of the other jersey and try for once to run away from them. Hey, it doesn't always have to be a 20 yard dash...let's make it a 80+ yard return!There, now we have a Special Teams complaint!

 

[Bizkiteer]

A source told Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan that Mason is safe. He's staying on the 53-man roster.Alridge took Thomas' roster spot, so I'm not totally sure why there's so much talk about who will be cut. They don't need to cut anyone...right now. But, I do think Rock is gone whenever they make their next move.

Most teams don't carry 4 RB's, let alone 5 of them. That is not even counting any FB's either. So, it's only logical that the talk of who could get cut would come up. Then again, Portis is such a great blocker that he could play Guard or maybe even Tackle for our OL. Most likely would be an upgrade over Rino or Heyer! Then again, we (Redskins) don't appear to be "most teams." DanMan and Boy Blunder save the day....errrr.....strike again!