***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

Cerrato has really been the face of the Front Office since Gibbs left. Since then it has seemed to me that Snyder has backed off and made a few demands of some FAs he wants, the rest has been up to Cerrato.

We'll just have to disagree on that one. But it really doesn't matter that much as long as Cerrato is held accountable for the bad decisions made. Either Vinnie made them, or he didn't stop the owner from making them --- it works out equally poorly for the team.

 

[dgreen]

Casserly says Campbell is the problem:

Casserly knocks Campbell

By: John Keim

Examiner Staff Writer

10/26/09 10:39 AM EDT

Former Redskins general manager Charley Casserly, on the CBS pre-game show Sunday, pegged Jason Campbell as the reason for Washington's offensive struggles. Then he pointed to four plays that showed Campbell's indeciseveness and decision-making.

When asked what the problem was in Washington, Casserly said, "It has nothing to do with play-calling. It has to do with Jason Campbell's play at quarterback. He's too indecisive. He doesn't trust what his eyes see."

Later, Casserly said, "Here's the bigger issue. When Campbell was drafted he was drafted for the Joe Gibbs offense, which is more of a downfield passing game. He does not fit the West Coast offense, which is a quick rhythm passing game. ... He's a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. He doesn't fit the system and that's the bottom line."

A couple things: When the trade talk surfaced last offseason, a GM said the problem he had with Campbell is that he didn't like his instincts. Liked his toughness and accuracy, but wasn't sure his instincts would ever allow him to be more than average. It's why Denver did not want him; they preferred Kyle Orton or even Cleveland's Brady Quinn ahead of Campbell.

Two years ago, I spoke with a handful of people around the league -- from DB coaches on other teams to GMs and scouts -- about whether or not Campbell would be a good fit in the offense. Ironically, the only dissenting voice I heard was one of Campbell's teammates, who worried that the short quick passes, requiring instant decisions, did not fit him. Others thought his athleticism would compensate. Clearly that hasn't been the case. I've heard that Gibbs remains confident in Campbell, but not sure what he thinks of him in the West Coast offense.

Here's a link to the Casserly piece:

 

[dgreen]

I've defended Campbell quite a bit around here. And, I still think a team can succeed with him, assuming they have the proper parts on the OL and at WR. But, the more I watch other teams - mainly other QBs - the more I'm down on Campbell. As I watch other teams put up points after points after points every week, I notice one big thing. Other QBs give their WRs a chance. Other QBs throw to WRs who are covered tightly one-on-one. Campbell seems to only throw when the WR is open. Rivers throws up a ball to a covered Vincent Jackson. Orton throws to a covered Brandon Marshall. McNabb, tonight, will likely throw to a covered DeSean Jackson. And, it's possible Jackson will make a play on one of those.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Rivers throws up a ball to a covered Vincent Jackson. Orton throws to a covered Brandon Marshall. McNabb, tonight, will likely throw to a covered DeSean Jackson. And, it's possible Jackson will make a play on one of those.

Um . . .

 

[dgreen]

Rivers throws up a ball to a covered Vincent Jackson. Orton throws to a covered Brandon Marshall. McNabb, tonight, will likely throw to a covered DeSean Jackson. And, it's possible Jackson will make a play on one of those.

Um . . .

What? We have no evidence whether our current WRs can make plays one-on-one because Campbell doesn't give them a chance.

 

[PantherPower]

Rivers throws up a ball to a covered Vincent Jackson. Orton throws to a covered Brandon Marshall. McNabb, tonight, will likely throw to a covered DeSean Jackson. And, it's possible Jackson will make a play on one of those.

Um . . .

 

[TankRizzo]

Zorn was doing a bad job of it, there's no way around that. But relieving him of the responsibility publicly was done badly when it should have been done in private. And playcalling should have been handed off to someone else on staff who could do it which, whoops, the Redskins apparently didn't have. Underqualified coach, underqualified OC (the invisible Sherman Smith), underperforming offense.

I kind of laughed at one quote I read from Sherm Smith saying something about him being upset if bringing in Sherm Lewis effected his role any.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Take this fwiw, talked to a friend of a friend this weekend, and he claims that Gruden and Bruce Allen is a done deal to Washington if they (Gruden and Allen) decide to take the job. This would obviously mean that Vinny would be ousted.

Btw, this talk is coming from Gruden's side. And the only thing I can confirm 100% is that the friend of a friend is actually Gruden's buddy. Alledgedly, Gruden will only consider the Redskins job if Allen comes with him. They are a package deal. Their main concern wrt to taking the job is wheter they would have enough autonomy and control to do their jobs.

Now, I was fairly intoxicated when this part of the convo took place, but IIRC Bruce Allen supposedly had a secret interview with Snyder last week (which would be last week or the week before, idk). And of course Gruden is in D.C. right now for tonights game.

 

[Golden Mike Tomczak]

I'm not trying to be overly negative but this redskins team is really disappointing, especially with all the talent they have on offense. At this point, Campbell has proven he cannot effectively run an NFL offense. They need to solidify their QB position if they want to be competitive.

 

[dgreen]

Take this fwiw, talked to a friend of a friend this weekend, and he claims that Gruden and Bruce Allen is a done deal to Washington if they (Gruden and Allen) decide to take the job. This would obviously mean that Vinny would be ousted.Btw, this talk is coming from Gruden's side. And the only thing I can confirm 100% is that the friend of a friend is actually Gruden's buddy. Alledgedly, Gruden will only consider the Redskins job if Allen comes with him. They are a package deal. Their main concern wrt to taking the job is wheter they would have enough autonomy and control to do their jobs. Now, I was fairly intoxicated when this part of the convo took place, but IIRC Bruce Allen supposedly had a secret interview with Snyder last week (which would be last week or the week before, idk). And of course Gruden is in D.C. right now for tonights game.

Just pay attention to what Gruden says tonight. Is he negative and say what everyone else has been saying or does he have positive things to say about the organization, especially Snyder?

 

[Sidewinder16]

So is it rock bottom when your own radio station says a monkey with a Rubik's cube could manage the team better than the current ownership/front office?

Sheehan/Loverro doing a horribly corny bit with "Jack Kent Cooke dialed in from heaven", but they are showing little mercy.

 

[dgreen]

Casserly says Campbell is the problem:

Casserly knocks Campbell

By: John Keim

Examiner Staff Writer

10/26/09 10:39 AM EDT

Former Redskins general manager Charley Casserly, on the CBS pre-game show Sunday, pegged Jason Campbell as the reason for Washington's offensive struggles. Then he pointed to four plays that showed Campbell's indeciseveness and decision-making.

When asked what the problem was in Washington, Casserly said, "It has nothing to do with play-calling. It has to do with Jason Campbell's play at quarterback. He's too indecisive. He doesn't trust what his eyes see."

Later, Casserly said, "Here's the bigger issue. When Campbell was drafted he was drafted for the Joe Gibbs offense, which is more of a downfield passing game. He does not fit the West Coast offense, which is a quick rhythm passing game. ... He's a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. He doesn't fit the system and that's the bottom line."

A couple things: When the trade talk surfaced last offseason, a GM said the problem he had with Campbell is that he didn't like his instincts. Liked his toughness and accuracy, but wasn't sure his instincts would ever allow him to be more than average. It's why Denver did not want him; they preferred Kyle Orton or even Cleveland's Brady Quinn ahead of Campbell.

Two years ago, I spoke with a handful of people around the league -- from DB coaches on other teams to GMs and scouts -- about whether or not Campbell would be a good fit in the offense. Ironically, the only dissenting voice I heard was one of Campbell's teammates, who worried that the short quick passes, requiring instant decisions, did not fit him. Others thought his athleticism would compensate. Clearly that hasn't been the case. I've heard that Gibbs remains confident in Campbell, but not sure what he thinks of him in the West Coast offense.

Here's a link to the Casserly piece:

Just watched the video. Wow, that's some pretty good evidence from Casserly.

 

[PantherPower]

most of the Skins fan base has been saying this for almost 2+ full seasons now. Campbell should be a nice NFL backup. That's it.

 

[TankRizzo]

Can't say I'm too excited by the prospect of Bruce Allen, but I'm with the "anyone but Cerrato" mantra.

 

[PantherPower]

Can't say I'm too excited by the prospect of Bruce Allen, but I'm with the "anyone but Cerrato" mantra.

 

[buster c]

Everyone here seems to keep reiterating this. Zorn was the one that made this an issue right away. We know there was a meeting right after the game where it was made pretty clear to Zorn that he was being stripped. From there it is on Zorn to come out and say he hope this works and maybe it will help, balblahblah. Instead Zorn whined to Largent and has said it wasn;t his idea and he isn;t comfortable with it every chance he gets. Zorn has no idea how to handle the media. He should have been saying similar things about bringing in Lewis in the first place, but instead he #####ed and moaned about that too. I always knew Zorn sucked with the media, but it really hit home on how much he actually hurts the team with his comments when Albert was banined up beofre the Bucs game. He was asked how Albert was doing and he told the reporters "he is doing alright. He just can't move well laterally" Thanks, coach. How about letting them know Thomas only runs go routes and Orakpo has trouble with play-action?

Who chose Zorn as coach?All you're doing is deflecting blame from where it belongs. You're blaming fans, blaming the media, blaming Zorn. None of them hired Cerrato. None of them hired Zorn. None of them let the o-line completely destroy the team for 2 years in a row.

Who did those things?

Vinny chose Zorn. That is why he will be fired if Zorn doesn't succeed. Works for me.As far as the line, like I said here:

Bugel deserves 1,000% more blame for the line than he is getting.

hate to disagee with you here, but is a puppet. A yes man. Snyder called the shot and that's how this team is run. case closed.

 

[buster c]

I've defended Campbell quite a bit around here. And, I still think a team can succeed with him, assuming they have the proper parts on the OL and at WR. But, the more I watch other teams - mainly other QBs - the more I'm down on Campbell. As I watch other teams put up points after points after points every week, I notice one big thing. Other QBs give their WRs a chance. Other QBs throw to WRs who are covered tightly one-on-one. Campbell seems to only throw when the WR is open. Rivers throws up a ball to a covered Vincent Jackson. Orton throws to a covered Brandon Marshall. McNabb, tonight, will likely throw to a covered DeSean Jackson. And, it's possible Jackson will make a play on one of those.

the lesson to be learned here is to listen to your ol' pal buster... the only way a future team will "succeed with him" will be to succeed "in spite of" him.he has no feel, no instincts for the position. it's painful to watch. and yet, despite his 1 millionth declaration to just "go out there and have fun" he'll continue to not anticipate/see open guys, hold the ball, dump it off/into the gound, take a sack...etc.

 

[dgreen]

What Gruden has to say so far:

"I don't care who calls plays tonight for the Redskins, they have turmoil," he said, adding that as a coach, he hated playing such teams. "They're going to come out fighting," he said of the Redskins.

The Redskins "have players, there's fuel in the tank they just need to light the match."

"If they can get some positive momentum on offense, they can be a heck of a football team."

 

[fatness]

As I watch other teams put up points after points after points every week, I notice one big thing. Other QBs give their WRs a chance. Other QBs throw to WRs who are covered tightly one-on-one. Campbell seems to only throw when the WR is open.

Campbell learned that under Gibbs, who emphasized ball security above everything else for a QB. His next coach was Zorn, who has micromanaged everything Campbell has done. I'm not disagreeing with your assessment, just saying where I think it came from.

 

[TankRizzo]

As I watch other teams put up points after points after points every week, I notice one big thing. Other QBs give their WRs a chance. Other QBs throw to WRs who are covered tightly one-on-one. Campbell seems to only throw when the WR is open.

Campbell learned that under Gibbs, who emphasized ball security above everything else for a QB. His next coach was Zorn, who has micromanaged everything Campbell has done. I'm not disagreeing with your assessment, just saying where I think it came from.

Gibbs ruined Campbell mentally and Portis physically. Although I think he just solidified what Campbell already was. I wasn't big on him coming out and I sure as hell wasn't happy when they picked him in that draft....in the first round none the less. Why would you want a guy who's first responsibility was to hand off to Ronnie Brown and his second responsibility was to hand off to Caddy, and thirdly, maybe throw the ball. He's a game manager who can come in and not lose a game, certainly not what's in order for the Redskins right now.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

:(

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

I woke up this morning in a bad mood, knowing the torture I was going to subject myself to in another 14 hours.

 

[DCThunder]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

Unfortunately, I am rooting for a trainwreck of epic propotions and with fans booing and chanting "SELL THE TEAM" from the opening gun. Only then will Snyder understand what must be done regarding himself and Vinny. A stadium that's 2/3rds full of Eagle fans would help too.All I know is that I'm watching Big Bang Theory from 9:30-10 regardless of the game score or situation.

 

[dgreen]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

I woke up this morning in a bad mood, knowing the torture I was going to subject myself to in another 14 hours.

You know, my mood right now is very similar to my mood going into the now famous Santana Moss Monday night game at Dallas. If they are going to win tonight, it will probably be similarly spectacular. But, pretty sure that won't happen again.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Anybody know where to find TV ratings for the previous 6 weeks of MNF? I'm wondering just how low the ratings will plummet for the stellar matchup this week.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

Not this guy. I'm seriously contemplating skipping my workout so I can start drinking early in preparation. I need to get properly prepared to watch my Skins with the season on the brink, just like Bobby Knight and that one Indiana team. After subjecting myself in person to the Nebraska - Iowa St. debacle on Saturday, there's no doubt in my mind that the Skins will rise up tonight and win this game, completely shutting down Westbrook in the process, thus salvaging my sports weekend. Right now, we're a wounded cornered animal. The most dangerous kind. Nothing to lose. Only one way to survive.

 

[dgreen]

...there's no doubt in my mind that the Skins will rise up tonight and win this game, completely shutting down Westbrook in the process, thus salvaging my sports weekend.

You know, when I think about this game, I think about how I really do think our D can hold them and this could be a game. Then I remember about our horrific offense. And, that this horrific offense is being directed tonight by Bingo Man.I hope we hear some B-I-N-G-O chants tonight.

 

[Marvelous]

Everyone here seems to keep reiterating this. Zorn was the one that made this an issue right away. We know there was a meeting right after the game where it was made pretty clear to Zorn that he was being stripped. From there it is on Zorn to come out and say he hope this works and maybe it will help, balblahblah. Instead Zorn whined to Largent and has said it wasn;t his idea and he isn;t comfortable with it every chance he gets. Zorn has no idea how to handle the media. He should have been saying similar things about bringing in Lewis in the first place, but instead he #####ed and moaned about that too. I always knew Zorn sucked with the media, but it really hit home on how much he actually hurts the team with his comments when Albert was banined up beofre the Bucs game. He was asked how Albert was doing and he told the reporters "he is doing alright. He just can't move well laterally" Thanks, coach. How about letting them know Thomas only runs go routes and Orakpo has trouble with play-action?

Who chose Zorn as coach?All you're doing is deflecting blame from where it belongs. You're blaming fans, blaming the media, blaming Zorn. None of them hired Cerrato. None of them hired Zorn. None of them let the o-line completely destroy the team for 2 years in a row.

Who did those things?

Vinny chose Zorn. That is why he will be fired if Zorn doesn't succeed. Works for me.As far as the line, like I said here:

Bugel deserves 1,000% more blame for the line than he is getting.

hate to disagee with you here, but is a puppet. A yes man. Snyder called the shot and that's how this team is run. case closed.

How do you know that?I actually think Vinny is calling most, if not all of the shots. It is possible that Snyder is being completely hands off right now, giving Vinny all the leeway to correct the situation, or really, cut off his own head. And if so, that is the way it should be.

My point, no one really knows what is going on between Danny and Vinny.

 

[Marvelous]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

I have Westbrook, Akers, and the Philly D tonight, as well as Cooley. So even though I am expecting the Redskins to get trounced in an embarrassing way, it will help me win my match. The best case scenario at this point is the Redskins get a little something going on offense, Philly plays really bad like they did in Oakland, and the Redskins are in a 7-3 game in the 4ht quarter that they end up losing 17-10. I don't see anyway they can win this game.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

...there's no doubt in my mind that the Skins will rise up tonight and win this game, completely shutting down Westbrook in the process, thus salvaging my sports weekend.

You know, when I think about this game, I think about how I really do think our D can hold them and this could be a game. Then I remember about our horrific offense. And, that this horrific offense is being directed tonight by Bingo Man.I hope we hear some B-I-N-G-O chants tonight.

The critical question for me is whether the Redskins can score more points than they give up when their offense is on the field.

 

[Sebowski]

Anyone else dreading tonight? I'm not looking forward to this at all. Usually right about now, I'd come in here and post:

4 more hours!!!

But, right now I'm thinking more along the lines of:

When should I start watching House? Should I just go to bed at halftime? Anyone think there will be a big melee in the stands late in the game to make this thing worth watching?

Unfortunately, I am rooting for a trainwreck of epic propotions and with fans booing and chanting "SELL THE TEAM" from the opening gun. Only then will Snyder understand what must be done regarding himself and Vinny. A stadium that's 2/3rds full of Eagle fans would help too.All I know is that I'm watching Big Bang Theory from 9:30-10 regardless of the game score or situation.

Snyder already knows. Believe it or not, he wants to win more than you do. Vinny will be out if this doesn't work. That is a fact. There is no need to wish for a trainwreck or chant "sell the team" except self gratification.

 

[Sebowski]

...there's no doubt in my mind that the Skins will rise up tonight and win this game, completely shutting down Westbrook in the process, thus salvaging my sports weekend.

You know, when I think about this game, I think about how I really do think our D can hold them and this could be a game. Then I remember about our horrific offense. And, that this horrific offense is being directed tonight by Bingo Man.I hope we hear some B-I-N-G-O chants tonight.

I keep thinking about how the Bills and Chargers just made the Panthers and Chiefs look like college teams and we couldn't beat them. We abrely beat the Rams and Bucs. Then I think about the Eagles losing to the Raiders and I think they can be had at home tonight. Then I see more Chargers highlights....What I hope for the most tonight is probably the least likely to happen. I don't want FedEx on a national stage embarrassed. I don't want to see a lot of Green. I don't want to hear any negative chants. I don't want to hear any boos before they have been earned tonight. I know too many self-hating Skins fans have sold their seats to Eagles fans and the other ones are getting off on the chanting and booing.The Eagles have no idea how Lewis will call the game. Our D has been great against them lately. We can win this. We can show the country we stand by our team when the chips are down. We all know Vinny is the problem. Even Dan knows it know. Let's just focus on beating the division rivalry hated Eagles. Let's put their season in the crapper send the media circus after them. Hail to the Redskins

 

[buster c]

Everyone here seems to keep reiterating this. Zorn was the one that made this an issue right away. We know there was a meeting right after the game where it was made pretty clear to Zorn that he was being stripped. From there it is on Zorn to come out and say he hope this works and maybe it will help, balblahblah. Instead Zorn whined to Largent and has said it wasn;t his idea and he isn;t comfortable with it every chance he gets. Zorn has no idea how to handle the media. He should have been saying similar things about bringing in Lewis in the first place, but instead he #####ed and moaned about that too. I always knew Zorn sucked with the media, but it really hit home on how much he actually hurts the team with his comments when Albert was banined up beofre the Bucs game. He was asked how Albert was doing and he told the reporters "he is doing alright. He just can't move well laterally" Thanks, coach. How about letting them know Thomas only runs go routes and Orakpo has trouble with play-action?

Who chose Zorn as coach?All you're doing is deflecting blame from where it belongs. You're blaming fans, blaming the media, blaming Zorn. None of them hired Cerrato. None of them hired Zorn. None of them let the o-line completely destroy the team for 2 years in a row.

Who did those things?

Vinny chose Zorn. That is why he will be fired if Zorn doesn't succeed. Works for me.As far as the line, like I said here:

Bugel deserves 1,000% more blame for the line than he is getting.

hate to disagee with you here, but is a puppet. A yes man. Snyder called the shot and that's how this team is run. case closed.

How do you know that?I actually think Vinny is calling most, if not all of the shots. It is possible that Snyder is being completely hands off right now, giving Vinny all the leeway to correct the situation, or really, cut off his own head. And if so, that is the way it should be.

My point, no one really knows what is going on between Danny and Vinny.

The same way we ALL know this. It's a given. It's common knowledge.

Snyder has and - I predict - always will call the shots. Snyder hands off? Please.

 

[nittanylion]

Well, here's what I'd like to see: with one of Zorn's few remaining responsibilities being deciding what to do on 4th Down, I'd absolutely love it if he went for it every damn time, no matter the field position or distance.

Be interested in seeing in what balls pop outta the hopper then...

F You, Snyderatto.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Wow, it's only the first quarter in the Eagles game, but my first real chance to see Campbell. He looks lost, clueless even. I'm a big believer that the front office is mainly at fault. But seeing Campbell, they aren't going to be a winning team with him as the QB. He reminds me an awful lot of David Carr. Dancing, nervous in the pocket even when the pocket is solid. And he is just afraid to try a pass down field.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I like ice cream.

 

[TankRizzo]

WOW, Snyder actually had the guts to show up to this game? Wonder if he likes the sea of green he's seeing in the stands.

 

[southeastjerome]

If the skins do end up firing zorn during the season, count me in as supporting Danny Smith as head coach. If only the whole team took on his personality.

 

[TankRizzo]

If the skins do end up firing zorn during the season, count me in as supporting Danny Smith as head coach. If only the whole team took on his personality.

I think the common thinking now is that Gray would be the interim-HC, but I would love to see Danny Smith given a shot. I mean...our special teams suck, but he at least looks like he knows what he's doing and (in vain) tries to guide zorn.

 

[buster c]

3:29 to go in the half

Campbell with a nice pump fake

The corner bites!

And Campbell does not see Moss all by himself down the sideline for a sure TD

opts to throw behind - and incomplete - to Randall El

typical #17

 

[southeastjerome]

Mike Williams has actually looked decent tonight.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Gosh, with so much improvement in play calling, how in the world did they lose.

 

[dgreen]

As I watch other teams put up points after points after points every week, I notice one big thing. Other QBs give their WRs a chance. Other QBs throw to WRs who are covered tightly one-on-one. Campbell seems to only throw when the WR is open.

Campbell learned that under Gibbs, who emphasized ball security above everything else for a QB. His next coach was Zorn, who has micromanaged everything Campbell has done. I'm not disagreeing with your assessment, just saying where I think it came from.

And with good reason. Turnovers kill teams, especially teams that can't make big plays of their own. Last night was one of those games where they would have had a better chance to win had they just run-run-run-punt most of the game.I think you can have ball security AND give your receivers a chance to make plays. I'm not asking for Campbell to throw into double or triple coverage. I'm not asking him force anything. I'm simply looking for the plays that pretty much every other QB in the league tries. The one-on-one deep balls. The throw to the back shoulder of a well-covered WR.

I expected crap last night and, for the most part, saw crap. Yet, I'm still pissed despite knowing what was going to happen and preparing myself for it. I still woke up in a bad mood. Although it will end up being meaningless, I want someone (anyone) fired today. I'd be somewhat happy for a couple days if Snyder would just fire Vinny now. I'll be somewhat happy if Levi Jones starts at LT in two weeks. Please don't let Heyer play another down this year. I know none of this will make a bit of difference this year, but it will help my mood...and that's most important, right?

The only reason they weren't completely blown out is because this team still tries hard. For the most part, they keep playing until the very end. But, while they haven't given up yet, they play with so little fire. They start every game flat and with little emotion. The crowd seemed to be there last night. It wasn't as Green or empty as I expected. They continually produce a pile of crap and they get a much better crowd than they deserve. And they pay them back with no fire.

I feel bad for Campbell. The guy just can't make plays when under pressure. And he saw a ton of it last night. He was beat up. He apparently commented to a reporter after the game that he can't run right now because of his ankle. I liked seeing him fight through everything last night and not give up, but the guy just can't make the plays. It's understandable that he's constantly worried about the rush, but he has to ignore that in order to make plays.

I don't know why I'm going on and on about this. None of it matters. This is a team that is still on its way down. It's a team still on its way to an all-out blowout. Just don't let that blowout be against Dallas, please.

 

[dgreen]

Mike Williams has actually looked decent tonight.

It's hard to tell when there's so much pressure all night, but the few times I focused on Mike he was doing ok. Heyer just doesn't belong as a starter, though. It's getting really ugly.I heard on the radio that Levi Jones played one play in the 4th quarter. Anyone notice that?

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Mike Williams has actually looked decent tonight.

It's hard to tell when there's so much pressure all night, but the few times I focused on Mike he was doing ok. Heyer just doesn't belong as a starter, though. It's getting really ugly.I heard on the radio that Levi Jones played one play in the 4th quarter. Anyone notice that?

That must have been the play where Campbell wasn't hit from his blindside.

 

[Marvelous]

The Redskins actually did a lot better than I thought they would. Here are the plusses:

1. Outisde of the opening drive and the one long pass play, the Redskin's defense played really well. They completely shut down the Philly offense in the 2nd half. They had good pressure on McNabb. In the past few years (including Gibbs 2.0 years), the defense would melt when the offense sputterred later in the game. The D held strong throughout. Very impressive outing.

2. I liked the play calling a lot better. I counded 3 rollout (bootleg) passes. Zorn never calls them. They also passed into the endzone (Thomas's TD, Davis TD, and at least one other to Davis).

3. Fred Davis actually looked ok as a receiver.

The negatives:

4. Heyer looks like a disaster at LT.

5. Campbell really looks bad now. The announcers mentioned it many times (look at rush, not setting feet, not feeling rush on fumble). I am now in favor of benching Cambell. I think benching Cambell basically means his tenure with the Redskins is over. That given how poorly he has been treated and the instability of the organization, that is pretty much a given at this point.

6. There are just way too many mistakes by players. The snap rolling on the ground on the 4th and goal from the 4 years line is just incredible.

7. The OL is just so bad, it cannot effectively run block. I think Portis is over the hill, but no running back can run effectively behind that line as it is now.

8. The lack of audibles and hot reads on blitzes is very distrubing.

9. Fred Davis cannot block. May as well send him out on pass routes.

 

[Sebowski]

I hope we use Cooley's roster spot to sign Garcia. Cut Collins or Campbell if we have to.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I pretty much agree with your assessment, Marvelous.

I would add that Devin Thomas would appear to be a million dollar talent with a $.10 head because the dude is just irrelevant out there and I have to attribute that to poor route running. Yeah, he caught a TD on a simple route in the back of the end zone due to a great fake by Campbell, and he also caught a short slip screen, but those are pretty simple routes to run. I'm just not impressed at all.

Campbell being shell-shocked should tell you how bad the line play has been and how many times he's been hit. Whatever else you might say about him, he's never been fearful of the rush. Now he is, and it's for good reason. This pass blocking is Spurrier-esque, but it's not because of scheme.

Don't sell Fred Davis short. He's a good and maybe very good receiving TE. Those of us who watched him play at USC knew that and were enthusiastic about him, and maybe now you can understand how it was driving us nuts not to see some 2-TE sets that actually sent both TE's out into routes. He's a great example of how the coaches have simply failed to use the talent they have.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I hope we use Cooley's roster spot to sign Garcia. Cut Collins or Campbell if we have to.

For what purpose? This team is 2-5 and going nowhere. If you're going to acquire a QB, it may as well be someone with a future, right? I'll say it again- I'd like for the team to get Josh Johnson.