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LOL. Maroney=sped needs to do one of those. That guy makes me even more depressed though. Thankfully, I took tomorrow off, so I can drown my sorrows into the drink I just made. Honestly, this team has 3 wins in December and they still find a way to rip your heart out.
Normally yes, I agree 100%. In this case, it would have put them up 10 pts and iced the game. It was the same as an Extra point coversion. Had he not missed that, Sellers play would have never occurred. Landry didn't help much either, but again...one FG that is the same as an Extra point and the game is over.
Everything hinges on those last 3 suggestions. If a legit GM is brought in and given typical GM powers, lots of things can happen. If that doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if we only get one of your suggestions.
Regarding the bold, we sure have some a long way since the beginning of the season with Davis, eh?
I agree with everything with the possible exception of Cooley. Unless I'm blown away by an offer for him (and given the amazingly high number of talented receiving TE's, I doubt that would happen), I'd say that a team that can field both Cooley and Davis, has at least a decent stable of WR's, and can run out of a one-back set has a beautiful set of options. It's served the Colts well, for example.
Take it as encouraging. Both are justifying their draft position last year. Scary, I know.
It's good to recognize leaders, yes, even if it feels a bit like recognizing them in the special olympics. It's progress, that's for sure. But team leaders in TD catches should have way more than 3 at this time in the season.
Yes, that's been a lot of progress with Davis. Regarding Cooley I see your point. But frankly I think the team has more of a need for 1 good TE and a decent offensive lineman than it needs 2 good TE's.Regarding the bold, we sure have some a long way since the beginning of the season with Davis, eh?I agree with everything with the possible exception of Cooley. Unless I'm blown away by an offer for him (and given the amazingly high number of talented receiving TE's, I doubt that would happen), I'd say that a team that can field both Cooley and Davis, has at least a decent stable of WR's, and can run out of a one-back set has a beautiful set of options. It's served the Colts well, for example.
But I don't think they can turn Cooley into decent offensive lineman.BTW, anyone notice that Jeremy Bridges has been starting for the Cardinals?Yes, that's been a lot of progress with Davis. Regarding Cooley I see your point. But frankly I think the team has more of a need for 1 good TE and a decent offensive lineman than it needs 2 good TE's.Regarding the bold, we sure have some a long way since the beginning of the season with Davis, eh?I agree with everything with the possible exception of Cooley. Unless I'm blown away by an offer for him (and given the amazingly high number of talented receiving TE's, I doubt that would happen), I'd say that a team that can field both Cooley and Davis, has at least a decent stable of WR's, and can run out of a one-back set has a beautiful set of options. It's served the Colts well, for example.
I was at the game yesterday, noticing how fun it is to be in the stadium when the team is rolling and playing well and thought, "Wow, a win here could be huge for someone like Vinny. They beat the Saints and maybe a couple others like NY and Dallas and, once again, it will appear we're 'on the right track'."But, it sounds like Vinny may have worn out his welcome even with Snyder and even after having some of his moves looking decent.:crossesfingers:
By people who know what they're doing. I'm not sure Cooley would get anything more than a 3rd. At that spot, I think you either just have to get lucky or really, really know what you're doing to turn that into a decent OL. I'd rather keep Cooley and hope to get lucky with, say, a 5th rounder than trade Cooley and hope to get lucky with a 3rd rounder.
The truth is that good offensive linemen come from just about everywhere. Good teams have 1st rounders playing next to 5th rounders playing next to UDFA's. If you're only using late round picks or UDFA's, you're of course limiting your resource pool. If you're going to get away with that, then you need to be very good about spotting and developing budding talent, and the 'Skins have not done that of late. It's frankly one of the more baffling things about the team given that Bugel has been there and he made UDFA Joe Jacoby and 3rd round pick Russ Grimm into great o-linemen, and guys like 11th rounder Raleigh McKenzie into solid players.
Hiring a qualified GM is part of what I was asking for, so I'm not sure why you're differing with me on that.And there is much better talent available in the 3rd round than in the 5th round. Despite the way the draft has been belittled and disrespected by the Redskins over the years, the rest of the league knows the difference between the 2. And it's high time we caught up.Cooley's a massively popular guy; I love watching him play and he's gregarious and funny to boot, and works hard. But exactly where is the Redskin rebuilding going to come from if they hang on to popular, good players who still have value to other teams? Trading Cooley for a decent draft pick (and 3rd or above is decent) does not leave a void at TE on the team, and gets a new player in camp a year earlier than would happen without the pick.
That was Bugel-Years-Ago, not Bugel-Now. He's old and may not be as talented as he once was.
Interesting. I was (and still am) under the impression that Shanahan (both Mike and Kyle) going to Houston is one of the worst kept secrets in the NFL......btw, scoobygang - I respect you and enjoy reading your stuff here and elsewhere. Because we never know who might be reading this stuff, I try to be as informative as possible without saying anything that might give anyone the slightest clue as to who I get my stuff from, but these aren't folks who would BS me for any reason about anything. When we talk 'skins (which is only when THEY bring it up, because they are my friends first, and I think it's unfriendly to 'pimp' one's friends for inside scoop), if I ask them something they aren't comfortable responding to, they tell me that straight up, rather than misdirecting me.In regards to Fred Davis, the fact of the matter IS that they spent an enormous amount of time working with him on his lower body/core strength and his blocking technique in the offseason, and were very pleased with the results, for two reasons: first off, because they already had a fair degree of confidence in his hands - catching the ball wasn't regarded as something requiring anything more than reps with the QB's and JUGS Machine. Second, because being at least a minimally competent blocker was the only way he was going to get on the field to USE those hands - because adding a second TE to the base scheme means taking someone OFF the field who's already there. Cooley wasn't coming off the field barring injury or needing a breather, which means putting Davis and Cooley on the field together (which is the #1 wrinkle they wanted to work into the offense this year) meant that either Yoder (a half-decent blocker), Sellers (who blocks well enough to see time), or a 3rd WR (ARE, DThomas, MKelly...all presumably capable of making decent YAC plays in the WCO) would have to come off the field. The development of Davis as a blocker was regarded as crucial so that when he and Cooley were on the field together, they wouldn't be 'telegraphing' their Offense (as in 'Davis is in, they're going to throw it'), and were going to be able to present some alignments designed to really confuse the opposing D, and yield plenty of targets to ARE cutting across the middle, and Portis coming out of the backfield. Then the O-Line situation became a natural disaster, and put the kibosh on the best laid plans. Oh, what might have been...As for the ARE Contract/Punt Returner thing, all I can say is that there's plenty I've heard that I can't share here, and when it comes to this Franchise, the axiom 'Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction' most DEFINITELY applies with this group...believe it, or not.
BTW, there were several WCO YAC plays this week, including all three TDs. It was good see receivers catch the ball on the run and pick up some extra yards, first downs, and touchdowns.
My thoughts are we had better be drafting Oline.
You new to this team?
We better not draft a Safety high as our other Safeties have shown to be capable enough. If we pick high, it will be a Tackle or QB. If there are several good QB's coming out, then I can see the 'Skins taking a Tackle and then a QB. Of course, this is barring that DanMan doesn't fall in love with any one guy at the combine.
Don't have to be an NFL insider like Schefty to know this...
B-I-N-G-O!!! We have a WINNER!!!!Love him and his love for the game, but his time has passed in being a legit asst coach in the NFL.
until the baffling part. I'd say that was the game of yesterday, while we are playing the game of today. That is why the eye for talent is not same anymore, at least in the OL dept.Trading Cooley just to get a draft pick is a terrible idea. He is a player and one you can build around. Unless there is a reason Cooley does not fit in with the new GM and coaching staff, he should stay.The Redskins need more talent on their team. Having two capable TEs is not a problem. Having players like Moss, Randle El, and Portis who have big salaries and marginal production is a problem.
Even though Ganther has had the better YPC, Cartwright is getting the most touches. He's had 20, 18, and 16 touches the last 3 games. I'd expect Cartwright to continue in the 15 touch range and Ganther around 10.
I think I'd kill myself
you don't know that.lots of old coaches out there who can still coach.buges has cobbled together a line that has been protecting JC (3 sacks in the last 4 games) as well as contributing to a rejuvenated run game, transitioning from the crap given to him by
(old, beat-down overpaid tenured vets (see Thomas, R and Rabach, C)) using passed-over street fodder (#74, #71, etc) to create a functional unit.I'd argue just the opposite: that's excellent coaching
Wait, I take that back. Just heard Ganther was named the starter for this Sunday. I hope this doesn't mean Rock goes back to KR over Thomas.
Having two good TE's is not a problem, I agree. But we both agree that the Redskins need more talent, and one way that responsible teams get talent is by trading for it in the form of players and draft picks. To trade you need something of value to offer, which would be where Cooley comes in. He can be traded without leaving void at the position, and it's not like we can trade Yoder. Who wants Yoder?
I think you almost never get equal value when trading veterans for draft picks. Cooley is a very good tight end and he is not that old. He is worth far more than a 3rd round pick, but that may be the limit if you trade him away. The only sure fire way to get good value for trading a veteran for draft picks is to trade a player TO the Redskins (see Brunell, Portis, Duckett, Taylor, Lloyd, James as good examples).
I wouldn't mind trading Cooley, but only if The Skins are ripping someone off. I'd like to see someone else overpay us for a change.
I'm not at all willing to go that far, but I do think that there's more to it than that Buges just lost his marbles along the way. His o-linemen have all loved him over the last six years, and this includes a bunch of vets - Jansen, Thomas, Kendall, Rabach, etc. - who know good coaching and who also have no particular affinity for Redskins lore or the Hogs. I wonder whether we aren't seeing miracles at work with Heyer and even Mike Williams getting the production out of them that we have. OTOH, he completely whiffed on both Molinaro and Wilson who he hand-picked for Gibbs five years ago. Anyway, I'm just leftyou don't know that.lots of old coaches out there who can still coach.
buges has cobbled together a line that has been protecting JC (3 sacks in the last 4 games) as well as contributing to a rejuvenated run game, transitioning from the crap given to him by(old, beat-down overpaid tenured vets (see Thomas, R and Rabach, C)) using passed-over street fodder (#74, #71, etc) to create a functional unit.
I'd argue just the opposite: that's excellent coaching
That must have been a miserable name to grow up with.
Two words: David Akers.
another hopeful longshot "look at me, I'm smart!" Vinny move.
Even Dungy (who I actualy don't like) said Suisham had to go after costing two games. Kickers who miss 23 yarders with the game on the line don't deserve antother chance. We've given Suisham enough opportunities. It was looking like it would pay off till the Dallass game. They should have cut him Monday morning even without signing another guy. So, Danny insists that El keeps returning punts even though he can't because that is what he is getting paid for and Danny also insists on cutting Suisham because he can't kick even though he has to keep paying him. You guys are not very consistent with your allegations. Every GM, Owner, and coach in the league would agree that this was the right move. Kickers are very temperamental. Just look at Vanderjet. Most accurate kicker in history to bum for no reason. Change of scenery may be what Suisham needs. It is definitely what the Skins need.buster c said:
