***Official*** 2009 Washington Redskins Thread (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

On Shanahan: I just met Jim [Zorn]. We're going to see how we can beat the Giants. There will be time after the season for that stuff.

 

[dgreen]

Hmm, I didn't catch the final question and answer, but that just ended abruptly. Allen said something like, "Again, there's many good football players" or something like that then said, "Thank you all," and walked out. Weird.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Finally got the video going for the last couple of minutes.

Man it's nice to see and hear someone behind that mic that looks and sounds like he knows what he's doing.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Hmm, I didn't catch the final question and answer, but that just ended abruptly. Allen said something like, "Again, there's many good football players" or something like that then said, "Thank you all," and walked out. Weird.

Someone asked him about his philosophies on building a football team, regarding specific positions as opposed to theoretical concepts (get good players, good coaches, etc.), and specifically brought up the local talk about the OL. He then gave a theoretical concept answer. I like that he's not up there saying, yeah this needs to change and we need to do this specifically. He's here, with 3 games left, to evaluate what's in-house. He's not to going to start making predictions and assertions based upon what he's perceived from the outside looking in.ETA: Regarding the quick exit, I thought I heard a "last question" in the background before that last question, but I could be mistaken.

 

[dgreen]

ETA: Regarding the quick exit, I thought I heard a "last question" in the background before that last question, but I could be mistaken.

That's the way it usually is, but I didn't hear it so I was a little surprised. I thought, "This was going so well and then that's how you end it?"

 

[buster c]

chat

Will Dan still run the show? Yes, but Bruce will do his best to get and find players to make the team better. It's up to Dan to follow along or not.

 

[Guinis72]

Probably the only way we could bring in Gruden next season.

 

[dgreen]

Link:

The quintessential George Allen story took place the afternoon of Sept. 30, 1973, in Philadelphia, when the Redskins coach denied the identity of his own son, Bruce, rather than risk a 15-yard penalty against the Eagles.

Bruce was high-school age at the time, dressed casually and wearing a credential that restricted him to the Redskin sideline area bounded by each 35-yard line. But that game, as he frequently had before, Bruce roamed far downfield, yelling all manner of distracting advice toward the Eagle quarterback.

Finally, as Washington Post photographer **** Darcey recalled, the referee stopped play, grabbed Bruce, escorted him back to the bench area and straight to his father, the coach.

"Is this a member of your staff?" the referee said to Allen, noting's Bruce credential. "I've no idea," Allen replied. "He must be one of those people they (the Eagles) gave us as ballboys."

"If this happens again," the referee said, "it's a 15-yard bench misconduct penalty." "Thank you," Allen said.

 

[Sidewinder16]

A little more insight on The New Improved Process and the Rooney Rule compliance:

Leaders of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, the group formed to promote diversity in hiring at all levels of the NFL, said they're satisfied that the Washington Redskins complied with the provisions of the league's minority interviewing requirement before Thursday's hiring of Bruce Allen as their general manager.

"We're very satisfied," John Wooten, the chairman of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, said in a telephone interview. "They fulfilled it over 10 days ago."

Wooten declined to identify the minority candidate or candidates interviewed by the Redskins.

If they complied with the Rooney rule 10 days ago this process is probably at least 2-3 weeks in the making. That puts it right around the Philly loss and Vinny's public outburst with Zorn.

 

[fatness]

Rock Cartwright: "I was kind of surprised but at the same time, it’s bittersweet because Vinny’s been around here a long time and I’ve been here for my whole career. There have been times he made decisions that a lot of people didn’t agree with but he’s the head man. I wish him the best and hopefully I don’t see him down the road."(Asked to clarify, Cartwright said: "I said I hope I don’t run into him down the road, with another team or whatever the case may be.")

 

[Sidewinder16]

Rock Cartwright: "I was kind of surprised but at the same time, it’s bittersweet because Vinny’s been around here a long time and I’ve been here for my whole career. There have been times he made decisions that a lot of people didn’t agree with but he’s the head man. I wish him the best and hopefully I don’t see him down the road."

(Asked to clarify, Cartwright said: "I said I hope I don’t run into him down the road, with another team or whatever the case may be.")

Carlos Rogers' comments seem pretty bland ("I really have no reaction. You know you can’t ask me that. It’s something to do with the front office and I stay away from that. We don’t know the insight of what’s upstairs. I heard his contract was up.") until you read Keim's take on it:

Carlos Rogers -- a big ear-to-ear smile. Beats anything he said.

 

[fatness]

Did Vinny have the opportunity to stay?Snyder: The best way to put it is that it was time for a change.

He said that several times, and this by far the most important thing he said. He sounded downright grim when he said it.

 

[fatness]

If they complied with the Rooney rule 10 days ago this process is probably at least 2-3 weeks in the making. That puts it right around the Philly loss and Vinny's public outburst with Zorn.

I'm beginning to think that's when Snyder realized things were too far gone to salvage. Good riddance to this colossal #### head.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Keim has some more thoughts on Allen from "league sources":

"Bruce knows everybody," one NFL GM said. "He doesn't make enemies. He's an administrative guy. Really, he's a politician. He's connected and he has a good infrastructure with agents. He knows the cap and can deal with head coaches. He knows who to listen to and he defers and doesn't try to make decisions out of his box."

So, are we going to see a different philosophy in how contracts are structured and awarded? Was that mostly Vinny up until now? It seems I remember hearing that the 'Skins signing practices were similar to the 49ers when Cerrato was there.

According to a Football Outsider's story Allen and the '08 Bucs ranked second as the most efficient users of salary cap dollars.

If you're a club looking for a front office executive, given the job he did in Tampa Bay, Bruce Allen is a name you'd have to seriously consider. The metric that stands out about the Bucs is the fact that they rolled over a whopping $25 million of 2008 cap space; this rollover credit put their 2009 cap in excess of $153 million.

 

[phrozen]

A little more insight on The New Improved Process and the Rooney Rule compliance:

Leaders of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, the group formed to promote diversity in hiring at all levels of the NFL, said they're satisfied that the Washington Redskins complied with the provisions of the league's minority interviewing requirement before Thursday's hiring of Bruce Allen as their general manager.

"We're very satisfied," John Wooten, the chairman of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, said in a telephone interview. "They fulfilled it over 10 days ago."

Wooten declined to identify the minority candidate or candidates interviewed by the Redskins.

If they complied with the Rooney rule 10 days ago this process is probably at least 2-3 weeks in the making. That puts it right around the Philly loss and Vinny's public outburst with Zorn.

I think that is about right. In the presser it was mentioned that this process had been going on for a couple of weeks so the timing seems to line up.

 

[dgreen]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results. I really hope not, obviously, but we've gone through exciting changes before. Snyder, for all his faults, is excellent at bringing fans back. He's a strikeout/home-run owner. It's times like these that we temporarily forget about all the strikeouts and focus on his latest 450-foot blast into the upper deck.

Each move, big and small, has brought their own promise and hope. There are all the free agents that would take us to the next level. There was Marty, a legit NFL coach, replacing the finally departed Norv. There was Spurrier, the long-coveted college super coach who would system his way to success. There was, of course, Joe Gibbs returning to get us back on the right track (which he kind of did, but we expected Super Bowls). There was the out-of-the-box thinking with Zorn and his 6-2 start. Now we have the hope and assumption of a philosophical change in the organization. Snyder is backing off (it seems so...sort of...maybe...right?). We have a GM, which we've wanted for years. We're going to do it the right way, just like everyone else.

But, of course, the question remains: Will it work or will there be more fan outrage in two more years when the ship is still sinking?

I know, it seems so obvious this will be better...just like so many of the other moves. Once again, as I have been at the time of pretty much every other Snyder decision, I'll predict that this will work. How can it not? It's what we've wanted.

 

[dgreen]

From George Allen Jr:

"In this city of Washington, where leaking is the way of conducting business, I was telling my wife, Susan, I could not believe that nothing has leaked on this," Allen said. "You all are writing about Clinton Portis's concussions, Albert Haynesworth and all these other things. But this somehow stayed under wraps."George Allen, in fact, conducted a radio interview on Monday, talking politics, not sports. As he often is, he was inevitably asked about the Redskins' recent woes and coyly responded, "I think they need better leadership. But I'm sure they'll get things turned around soon."

I do find it amazing that there was absolutely no indication something was happening soon. In fact, most were even thinking Vinny's job might have been saved with the recent progress.

"It's just a perfect fit," he said. "I haven't heard my mother this happy and thrilled in a long while. It's so great to hear that happiness in her voice."

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Link:

The quintessential George Allen story took place the afternoon of Sept. 30, 1973, in Philadelphia, when the Redskins coach denied the identity of his own son, Bruce, rather than risk a 15-yard penalty against the Eagles.

Bruce was high-school age at the time, dressed casually and wearing a credential that restricted him to the Redskin sideline area bounded by each 35-yard line. But that game, as he frequently had before, Bruce roamed far downfield, yelling all manner of distracting advice toward the Eagle quarterback.

Finally, as Washington Post photographer **** Darcey recalled, the referee stopped play, grabbed Bruce, escorted him back to the bench area and straight to his father, the coach.

"Is this a member of your staff?" the referee said to Allen, noting's Bruce credential. "I've no idea," Allen replied. "He must be one of those people they (the Eagles) gave us as ballboys."

"If this happens again," the referee said, "it's a 15-yard bench misconduct penalty." "Thank you," Allen said.

Awesome.

 

[fatness]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

 

[fatness]

"I haven't felt the pain that has been associated with 4-9," Allen said. "Starting today, I feel the pain. I look forward to talking with the coaches, the personnel people, and having them explain to me their thoughts on what occurred."

Bruce Allen

 

[buster c]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

We will continue to see similar results as long as Snyder is calling the shots.

 

[fatness]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

We will continue to see similar results as long as Snyder is calling the shots.

I realize you have to beat that drum because it's the only one you have.What was the record of Allen's teams during the time Cerrato worked for the Redskins?

 

[fatness]

"His plate is too full. I think we need to relieve some of his duties."

 

[fatness]

 

[dgreen]

I can't believe I forgot to mention this last week when I first heard it. I just heard it again today and here it is for everyone...

Gano's agent was a groomsman in Vinny's wedding.

 

[dgreen]

And when did they start their policy that no media could interview fans in the parking lot?

 

[fatness]

ESPN980 reported that there will be an additional front office hire, and that Doug Williams and the guy with the Ravens are 2 of the 3 being considered for it.

 

[fatness]

That's about when it started, isn't it?

 

[dgreen]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

Lucy = SnyderCharlie Brown = The fansThe football = well, a football i guessThis time WILL be different.

 

[dgreen]

ESPN980 reported that there will be an additional front office hire, and that Doug Williams and the guy with the Ravens are 2 of the 3 being considered for it.

Is the 3rd Theisman? No offense, Doug, but I'll go with the Ravens guy because of what they've done up there.

 

[Bizkiteer]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

We will continue to see similar results as long as Snyder is calling the shots.

buster, I know that the track record is not great. You said when Vinny was gone, that anyone is an improvement. Now you have gone right back to where you were before...looking at the glass half empty. For the past 10 years, we've all been jumping up & down for Daniel Snyder to hire a GM and then we thought this day would NEVER come. Well, NEVER is here and he hired a guy that has done the job and at least knows what it takes to run a football organization/team. Bruce might not be the mega control freak, but he surely will surround himself with the tools to have the best opportunity to succeed. Again, the track record is not great and all doubt can't be erased with a snap, but give it an opportunity. Look at it half full...the owner has hired a GM, which we never thought would have happend and his name is not Vinny Cerrato.

 

[fatness]

The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office.

Good source, too. Jason LaCanfora

Allen’s hiring is a strong first step, but there is much more to come as the Redskins try once again to reclaim their glory and emerge from a long malaise.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

We will continue to see similar results as long as Snyder is calling the shots.

buster, I know that the track record is not great. You said when Vinny was gone, that anyone is an improvement. Now you have gone right back to where you were before...looking at the glass half empty. For the past 10 years, we've all been jumping up & down for Daniel Snyder to hire a GM and then we thought this day would NEVER come. Well, NEVER is here and he hired a guy that has done the job and at least knows what it takes to run a football organization/team. Bruce might not be the mega control freak, but he surely will surround himself with the tools to have the best opportunity to succeed. Again, the track record is not great and all doubt can't be erased with a snap, but give it an opportunity. Look at it half full...the owner has hired a GM, which we never thought would have happend and his name is not Vinny Cerrato.

buster

 

[Maroney=Sped]

The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office.

I wonder if Doug wouldn't help his chances by changing his name to Doug DeWilliams.

 

[fatness]

Tony Dungy was contacted last Thursday about an (unspecified) NFL job.

 

[jbz]

DeCosta would be outstanding. The Ravens get a ton out of their draft picks.

Gruden isn't coming, JLC reporting he's got an iron clad contract through 2010. This is a good thing I think. Gruden seems a little too much into the Wildcat.

 

[Bizkiteer]

The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office.

I wonder if Doug wouldn't help his chances by changing his name to Doug DeWilliams.

LMAO!!! Good one!

 

[Bizkiteer]

The Redskins will explore candidates to round out the front office in player-personnel roles, according to sources, with current personnel executives such as Eric DeCosta (Baltimore), Bobby DePaul (Chicago) and Doug Williams (Tampa Bay) among possibilities. The Redskins came close to hiring DePaul to replace Cerrato twice during the Gibbs regime, according to sources, and DeCosta, a rising star as Ozzie Newsome’s top lieutenant with the Ravens, began his career with the Redskins. Williams won a Super Bowl as the Redskins’ quarterback and worked under Allen for the Buccaneers in personnel.

Snyder also has been impressed with the work of Morocco Brown, in his first season as Washington’s director of pro personnel, and he could be someone to remain in a revamped front office.

Good source, too. Jason LaCanfora

Allen’s hiring is a strong first step, but there is much more to come as the Redskins try once again to reclaim their glory and emerge from a long malaise.

From the sound of things, the changes are just starting to occur and more will come. Naming these guys already makes me feel good about that an honest effort might be put forth to re-structure the FO. It's good hearing that Allen will look to surround himself with talent that he will be able to lean on since he's not an "uber scout" as JLC pointed out.Maybe, just maybe...Daniel Snyder has been humbled. Of course, time will really tell though.

 

[Bizkiteer]

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14020216?source=rss

Shanahan appears headed to Redskins

By Mike Klis

The Denver Post

Former Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan has been in discussions to become the Washington Redskins' next head coach, according to two NFL sources.

The two sides still have some issues to work through, however, before an agreement is reached. The 4-9 Redskins long have been eliminated from playoff contention and have three games remaining with coach Jim Zorn.

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder began housecleaning Wednesday with Bruce Allen replacing Vinny Cerrato as general manager. One NFL source said that when Shanahan spoke with the Buffalo Bills last month about their new front-office/coaching openings, Allen was to be included in the package there.

The Allen-Shanahan partnership appears ready to take control of the struggling, but tradition-rich franchise in the nation's capital.

Shanahan was the Broncos' coach for 14 seasons, winning back-to-back Super Bowls in 1997-98, until he was fired after his third consecutive non-playoff appearance last season.

Allen was Tampa Bay's GM for five seasons until he was fired after last season.

At first glance, the Redskins' GM change Wednesday seemed to hurt Shanahan's chances of becoming the head coach there because he had a close relationship with Cerrato dating back to their days with the San Francisco 49ers. Allen, meanwhile, was well-connected to former coach Jon Gruden for several years in Tampa Bay.

But Allen and Shanahan also have formed a strong relationship over the years. For starters, they may have shared some horror stories of Oakland Raiders' owner Al Davis. Shanahan was fired as head coach by Davis four games into the 1989 season. Allen, son of the late legendary head coach George Allen, worked in the Raiders' front office from 1995-2003.

Shanahan's son Kyle also got his NFL assistant coaching start with Allen and Gruden at Tampa Bay in 2004-05.

After the 2006 season, Shanahan sent disgruntled quarterback Jake Plummer to Tampa Bay for a seventh-round draft pick (which turned out to be Peyton Hillis) even though Plummer already had announced his retirement.

Tampa Bay agreed to the deal, however, in part because Allen and Gruden thought they could talk Plummer out of retirement, but also because they could recover up to $7 million in pro-rated signing bonus back from the quarterback for retiring before the end of his contract.

Such quirky trades are never made unless the two parties have built up a strong trust with one another. Plummer stayed retired and wound up reaching a settlement that forced him to write a $3.5 million check to the Bucs.

The Broncos have reason to monitor Shanahan's situation closely. After this season, he still would have two years and close to $14 million remaining on his contract with the Broncos. Should Shanahan receive a new contract as coach of the Redskins, the Broncos would receive an offset of at least a couple million dollars from what they owe their former coach.

Looks like Daniel Snyder might be working to get this in place before the market gets thinner.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I like the Allen move and love Shanahan to DC for the Redskins.

 

[grapeape]

can't think of too many situations that could have ended up better for the Skins than getting Allen and Shanahan. Skins fans should be very happy.

 

[fatness]

Things you just got numb to if you were a Redskin fan.

This year, Cerrato gave Zorn an offensive line without a single reserve who played in the NFL last year — even though two starters were coming off significant injuries. Both of those starters soon were out for the season, and the resulting scramble for a starting five hampered the development of the offense.

It's just stunning how incompetent that was.

 

[buster c]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

We will continue to see similar results as long as Snyder is calling the shots.

buster, I know that the track record is not great. You said when Vinny was gone, that anyone is an improvement. Now you have gone right back to where you were before...looking at the glass half empty. For the past 10 years, we've all been jumping up & down for Daniel Snyder to hire a GM and then we thought this day would NEVER come. Well, NEVER is here and he hired a guy that has done the job and at least knows what it takes to run a football organization/team. Bruce might not be the mega control freak, but he surely will surround himself with the tools to have the best opportunity to succeed. Again, the track record is not great and all doubt can't be erased with a snap, but give it an opportunity. Look at it half full...the owner has hired a GM, which we never thought would have happend and his name is not Vinny Cerrato.

of course anyone is an "improvement" over Ceratto. but as long as Snyder is involved with football decisions, the franchise will continue to be average at best. get Snyder out of the "front office" and hire someone either with a good track record or who has been apprenticing under one - not a retread on his 3rd team (fired twice this decade, no less) - and we can have reason for optimism.overall, I'm happy at the turn of events, but it's the sort of feeling I'd get at seeing fatness drive off a cliff...in my new Mazeratti

 

[fatness]

Things that don't get much notice.

Washington Redskin defensive end Renaldo Wynn, his wife LaTanya, mother-in-law, Barbara McNair, and the Renaldo Wynn Foundation brightened the holidays for 50 deserving Loudoun County Public Schools students on Dec. 1 at the Sterling West Target store.

Joining in the holiday shopping celebration were 26 Washington Redskin players, assisted by staffers from the Redskins Community Affairs and Charitable Foundation.

The foundation provided each student with a $100 Target gift-card and a Washington Redskin player as a “shopping buddy” to lead them in a one-hour shopping spree throughout the store… eventually ending up in the toy and electronic departments.

“The Redskins have game day on Sunday, work on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, fly to their next destination on Saturday…so Tuesday is their only day off…and they chose to shop with you on their one day off,” said Wynn.

“Thank you!” shouted excited and grateful students.

 

[buster c]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

it's common knowledge that the TB winner was a Dungy/McKay production.

 

[duckhook]

One thing is for sure about Zorn. He has handled this whole year with class. Almost like he knew Vinny would keep digging his grave. Vinny just kept showing what an idiot he was.

I used to think they would try to keep some of the staff here just to have consistency and not step regress even more. Perhaps moving Zorn to OC, bringing in an experienced HC from the same system, and keeping Blache. I still like the idea, cause I don't find Zorn as bad as many Skins fans. Lots of coaches started off deer in the headlights and developed into good coaches down the road. Allen probably has no intentions of doing that, but my personal opinion is that the team isn't that far away from playoffs. Better OL and a stud WR and they really are a playoff team, but admittedly still a long way from a SB contender.

 

[fatness]

If Allen offered a mission statement, a way to build a champion, it would have been this: “It’s a team. Everybody in the building going in the same direction, with one purpose – winning.”

Interesting. Seeing as this team too often falls into turf wars. An offensive consultant hired in October calls the pass plays. The offensive coordinator calls the run plays. The head coach, unhappily stripped of that authority, works into the mix at certain times. This odd dynamic and plenty else produced what Snyder called “a difficult season, one that has disappointed everybody.”

Cerrato became a lightning rod for fan anger and absorbed the brunt of the criticism. Maybe that’s fair and maybe it’s not but it can’t be argued that Redskins supporters wanted his next role to be that of a human sacrifice.

Larry Weisman

 

[buster c]

Things that don't get much notice.

Washington Redskin defensive end Renaldo Wynn, his wife LaTanya, mother-in-law, Barbara McNair, and the Renaldo Wynn Foundation brightened the holidays for 50 deserving Loudoun County Public Schools students on Dec. 1 at the Sterling West Target store.

Joining in the holiday shopping celebration were 26 Washington Redskin players, assisted by staffers from the Redskins Community Affairs and Charitable Foundation.

The foundation provided each student with a $100 Target gift-card and a Washington Redskin player as a “shopping buddy” to lead them in a one-hour shopping spree throughout the store… eventually ending up in the toy and electronic departments.

“The Redskins have game day on Sunday, work on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, fly to their next destination on Saturday…so Tuesday is their only day off…and they chose to shop with you on their one day off,” said Wynn.

“Thank you!” shouted excited and grateful students.

Redskin players taking part in the event included:

· Lorenzo Alexander

· Anthony Armstrong

· Richard Bartel

· D'Anthony Batiste

· Alvin Bowen

· Colt Brennan

· Jason Campbell

· Andre Carter

· Philip Daniels

· Derrick Dockery

· Jonathan Evans

· Kedric Golston

· Lendy Holmes

· Rob Jackson

· Malcolm Kelly

· Marko Mitchell

· Anthony Montgomery

· Will Montgomery

· Kareem Moore

· Chris Samuels

· J.D. Skolnitsky

· Hunter Smith

· Byron Westbrook

· Edwin Williams

· Mike Williams

· Chris Wilson

 

[fatness]

Well, after all the excitement of today, I'm left with the thought that we'll continue to see similar results.

That's because for 10 years we've known nothing else. Expectations slowly slid downhill, we contented ourselves with offseason signings, small win streaks, close losses, and no direction.Allen's teams got to 5 title games and won a super bowl in that time period, didn't they?

it's common knowledge that the TB winner was a Dungy/McKay production.

buster, if Snyder hired Jesus you'd say it was common knowledge that he was a scruffy troublemaker.

 

[fatness]

Redskin players taking part in the event included:· Lorenzo Alexander· Anthony Armstrong· Richard Bartel· D'Anthony Batiste· Alvin Bowen· Colt Brennan· Jason Campbell· Andre Carter· Philip Daniels· Derrick Dockery· Jonathan Evans· Kedric Golston· Lendy Holmes· Rob Jackson· Malcolm Kelly· Marko Mitchell· Anthony Montgomery· Will Montgomery· Kareem Moore· Chris Samuels· J.D. Skolnitsky· Hunter Smith· Byron Westbrook· Edwin Williams· Mike Williams· Chris Wilson

to all those guys.