It's not that he misses a couple throws, he just makes bad decisions on who to throw to. We've seen it time and again, a guy is wide open 15 yards downfield, and Romo dumps it off to someone 5 yards downfield who then gets tackled immediately. Or he misconnects on a 30 yard toss when someone else is wide open on a slant with open field ahead.Romo also frequently locks onto receivers, instead of going through progressions. I don't know whether that is Garrett's playcalling where there is only one option, or Romo not scanning the field ... But given Garrett's penchant for overly complex playcalling, I'd wager it's more Romo not going through his reads.The complaining about Romo is so tedious. I typically don't pay attention to whiney Cowboys fans, but really, look at the NFL right now. Who do you want at QB? Who has "heart'? After you list about 3 or 4 guys, the list ends. Without Romo, the Cowboys would blow. Badly. Guy just threw for 374 yards. But he missed a couple throws! I don't like his face! Stop.
Marion Barber gets a big paycheck, so regardless of his ability or the results, Jerry Jones will feature him.Are there any rumblings about the Cowboys going with Jones as the starting RB? My guess is no but I'm curious if an 0-2 start and potentially staring at 0-3 will lead Jones to get his guy in the starting lineup. Any Cowboy fans hearing anything along those lines?
Lots of complaining in the media that they don't use Jones enough, but nothing inside the organization yet as far as I've heard. I'll probably know more later in the week.Are there any rumblings about the Cowboys going with Jones as the starting RB? My guess is no but I'm curious if an 0-2 start and potentially staring at 0-3 will lead Jones to get his guy in the starting lineup. Any Cowboy fans hearing anything along those lines?
Couldn't be further from the truth. If it were up to Jerry, Barber wouldn't be on the team and Felix would be featured. Wade loves Barber, and Garrett campaigned for Jones to be drafted as a complementary back to Barber - a new wrinkle for Garrett to toy with.Marion Barber gets a big paycheck, so regardless of his ability or the results, Jerry Jones will feature him.Are there any rumblings about the Cowboys going with Jones as the starting RB? My guess is no but I'm curious if an 0-2 start and potentially staring at 0-3 will lead Jones to get his guy in the starting lineup. Any Cowboy fans hearing anything along those lines?
I saw the same things last week but it didn't come to pass. I think if an 0-2 start and facing 0-3 doesn't lead to a change nothing will barring injury.Lots of complaining in the media that they don't use Jones enough, but nothing inside the organization yet as far as I've heard. I'll probably know more later in the week.Are there any rumblings about the Cowboys going with Jones as the starting RB? My guess is no but I'm curious if an 0-2 start and potentially staring at 0-3 will lead Jones to get his guy in the starting lineup. Any Cowboy fans hearing anything along those lines?
As long as Garrett is calling the plays, it will be extremely lopsided toward passing. I'm pretty sure that Garrett will be out of work if they go 0-3, because it's the offense that is struggling moreso than the defense. If he doesn't outright lose his job, it wouldn't surprise me to see Wade take over. Not sure what effect that would have, but defensive coaches tend toward ball control, which might lead to more running. But Wade LOVES Barber, so I don't think it would positively affect Jones.I saw the same things last week but it didn't come to pass. I think if an 0-2 start and facing 0-3 doesn't lead to a change nothing will barring injury.Lots of complaining in the media that they don't use Jones enough, but nothing inside the organization yet as far as I've heard. I'll probably know more later in the week.Are there any rumblings about the Cowboys going with Jones as the starting RB? My guess is no but I'm curious if an 0-2 start and potentially staring at 0-3 will lead Jones to get his guy in the starting lineup. Any Cowboy fans hearing anything along those lines?
I might give you a couple of those, but not a chance on that entire list.Urinal Mint said:Currently, this list of teams:TBGBCHINOWASSEAATLNYGPHIAZBassNBrew said:Who's better than this team in the NFC...Saints, Falcons, Pack....maybe the Bears.
This makes a ton of sense to me. Tony Dungy said it well last night too. Dallas is beating themselves. Its not the opponents. Dallas never seems to be a good front runner. Never seems to play well when they have great expectations. I'm sure they are humbled. And thats a good thing. They are likely to play a lot more aggressively. They have a lot less to lose at this point.I don't know where this will end up. Maybe Football Outsiders had it right with them going 7-9. Maybe the mainstream media had it right with 10-6 and NFCE division title again. These are all still very real possibilities.GregR said:Interesting comment from Michael Lombardi, and curious if Dallas fans think there is any truth to it."...the Cowboys have made too many mistakes, too many errors. They are not physical enough. I think they went to training camp with the mentality that if we just get to the regular season healthy, we have a really good team. That is often the case with playoff teams. You go to training camp, your mentality is instead of working on the execution and the details, you're just trying to get your team healthy, and I think it shows. Especially when you watch the Cowboys running game, the pad level of their offensive line and their inability to establish the line of scrimmage."
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Romo is an above average QB who I very much appreciate with that being said the expectations for this team are not simply qualify for the playoffs rather win a superbowl. With those expectations Romo needs to take the next step and he has not. His missed throws are directly correlated to Dallas not putting points on the scoreboard. I have copied this from Velas blog and ask how in the world can you defend Romo?Anyone who is blaming Romo is just an idiot. Sorry. You are. First off, without Romo this team would have been 5-11 the past three years. Second, he didnt lose the game for us, the penalties and stupid plays did. He didnt fumble the ball, Choice did in the first game and ROY did in the second game. Those are not on Romo. He put this team in a position to win several times and stupidity cost them the score each time. He put this team in field goal range, the kicker misses. He puts the team in a position to get some points, ROY fumbles.
I guess all the fairweather fans are forgetting the Quincy Carter days. Be happy we have Romo. Sure sucked between Aikman and him.
Agreed.GregR said:Interesting comment from Michael Lombardi, and curious if Dallas fans think there is any truth to it."...the Cowboys have made too many mistakes, too many errors. They are not physical enough. I think they went to training camp with the mentality that if we just get to the regular season healthy, we have a really good team. That is often the case with playoff teams. You go to training camp, your mentality is instead of working on the execution and the details, you're just trying to get your team healthy, and I think it shows. Especially when you watch the Cowboys running game, the pad level of their offensive line and their inability to establish the line of scrimmage."
All of those teams have a better record than the 0-2 Cowboys, so by NFL standards, they're better. They won more games.I might give you a couple of those, but not a chance on that entire list.Urinal Mint said:Currently, this list of teams:TBGBCHINOWASSEAATLNYGPHIAZBassNBrew said:Who's better than this team in the NFC...Saints, Falcons, Pack....maybe the Bears.
They only use records to determine relative quality at the end of the season.All of those teams have a better record than the 0-2 Cowboys, so by NFL standards, they're better. They won more games.I might give you a couple of those, but not a chance on that entire list.Urinal Mint said:Currently, this list of teams:TBGBCHINOWASSEAATLNYGPHIAZBassNBrew said:Who's better than this team in the NFC...Saints, Falcons, Pack....maybe the Bears.
Dallas last good HC once said "You are what your record says you are". Right now Dallas is a 0-2 team.All of those teams have a better record than the 0-2 Cowboys, so by NFL standards, they're better. They won more games.I might give you a couple of those, but not a chance on that entire list.Urinal Mint said:Currently, this list of teams:TBGBCHINOWASSEAATLNYGPHIAZBassNBrew said:Who's better than this team in the NFC...Saints, Falcons, Pack....maybe the Bears.
How will you be contributing to that effort?I love all of the haters coming in and kicking the Cowboys when they think they are down.![]()
Get your shots in while you can. We will get this ship righted and be back in it this weekend.
The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()
I think losing Reeves was a real bad thing in this department. Jones needed a managing partner to run the show while Wade handled the defense. There are very, very few successful HC which oversee the day to day of a full unit the ones that do are much younger. (I think this shows the most in the special teams, actually) Wade at his age just simply doesn't have the time or energy to devote ten seconds to the ST. Reeves could have watched how things were moving and focused on working sort of as a GM and done the roster churning that is needed. Also would have kept Jerry a bit out of the mix and let him go run the stadjgium. I get the feeling that the team lacks a central command structure, and the rift between Garrett and Wade is growing. Garrett sees his chance to get to a HC role with Dallas dwindling with a 7-9 type year. Wade sees his chance at getting past being a punchline also dwindling. You can't just dump Wade to DC and bring in another HC. Wade is too old and too respected *chuckle* to take that sort of move. He's either in his current role or gone. No in between.I could see the Cowboys coming out with a new sense of urgency and dominating the Texans....but I could also see the Cowboys playing lackluster and getting blown out early. The best thing on Earth would be Garrett getting fired or relieved of his play calling duties. A guy called in to Sirius this morning and said, if Garrett were fired, who's short list would he be on? No one but the Cowboys front office thinks this guy has the ability to do what he is doing. IIRC, Norv Turner turned down this job because he felt Garrett wasnt ready. I would love nothing more than to give Wade Phillips a chance to be the ACTUAL HEAD COACH of this team with his own guy coaching the offense.
Most of the "haters" in this thread are Cowboy fans.I love all of the haters coming in and kicking the Cowboys when they think they are down.Get your shots in while you can. We will get this ship righted and be back in it this weekend.
The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()
Not even close.Care to wager on that list? Single head to head bets on final record...CHI, WAS, SEA, NYG, PHI, AZ. The others you mentioned were on my better than or equal to list.Urinal Mint said:All of those teams have a better record than the 0-2 Cowboys, so by NFL standards, they're better. They won more games.I might give you a couple of those, but not a chance on that entire list.Currently, this list of teams:TBGBCHINOWASSEAATLNYGPHIAZWho's better than this team in the NFC...Saints, Falcons, Pack....maybe the Bears.
Thank you StatCruncher. I had to do a serious :whoosh: when I read that. I don't think most people even know we HAVE a fan base, let alone see us enough to draw an opinion on if we're irritating.Though every team has some number of jerks who cheer for them.The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome. :whoosh:Not even close.
Yeah, don't sell yourself short, Cowboy fan. You are the second most irritating fanbase, right behind Eagle's fans.The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()
Not even close.
Yeah, don't sell yourself short, Cowboy fan. You are the second most irritating fanbase, right behind Eagle's fans.The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()
Not even close.

Look, I am sorry that for portions of time that I wasn't even alive that TV would only show Cowboys games. I truly am. The out of town fan sickens me as well. I'm an abashed sports elitist, and elitist in general. I realize there are some guys out there that probably haven't even been to Dallas except to change planes, but show up at the out of town games in droves. Nobody can control this and over time this effect will fade. Direct Ticket will see to this eventually.Yeah, don't sell yourself short, Cowboy fan. You are the second most irritating fanbase, right behind Eagle's fans.The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()
Not even close.
LOL, Have you watched both gamesI love all of the haters coming in and kicking the Cowboys when they think they are down.![]()
Get your shots in while you can. We will get this ship righted and be back in it this weekend.
? Can I some of what you smoking?this is not true.Romo, most of the time, goes through his progressions well.It's not that he misses a couple throws, he just makes bad decisions on who to throw to. We've seen it time and again, a guy is wide open 15 yards downfield, and Romo dumps it off to someone 5 yards downfield who then gets tackled immediately. Or he misconnects on a 30 yard toss when someone else is wide open on a slant with open field ahead.Romo also frequently locks onto receivers, instead of going through progressions. I don't know whether that is Garrett's playcalling where there is only one option, or Romo not scanning the field ... But given Garrett's penchant for overly complex playcalling, I'd wager it's more Romo not going through his reads.The complaining about Romo is so tedious. I typically don't pay attention to whiney Cowboys fans, but really, look at the NFL right now. Who do you want at QB? Who has "heart'? After you list about 3 or 4 guys, the list ends. Without Romo, the Cowboys would blow. Badly. Guy just threw for 374 yards. But he missed a couple throws! I don't like his face! Stop.
I wouldn't have said it prior to this year. But this year it IS true.Romo is not the primary reason, but make no mistake, he is a large part of it. I think part of it is Garrett's playcalling is putting Romo in very bad situations. Garrett really needs to go...this is not true.Romo, most of the time, goes through his progressions well.It's not that he misses a couple throws, he just makes bad decisions on who to throw to. We've seen it time and again, a guy is wide open 15 yards downfield, and Romo dumps it off to someone 5 yards downfield who then gets tackled immediately. Or he misconnects on a 30 yard toss when someone else is wide open on a slant with open field ahead.Romo also frequently locks onto receivers, instead of going through progressions. I don't know whether that is Garrett's playcalling where there is only one option, or Romo not scanning the field ... But given Garrett's penchant for overly complex playcalling, I'd wager it's more Romo not going through his reads.The complaining about Romo is so tedious. I typically don't pay attention to whiney Cowboys fans, but really, look at the NFL right now. Who do you want at QB? Who has "heart'? After you list about 3 or 4 guys, the list ends. Without Romo, the Cowboys would blow. Badly. Guy just threw for 374 yards. But he missed a couple throws! I don't like his face! Stop.
he's not perfect, and can make some bad decisions when he's pressured, but you make it sound like he's doing this all the time.
look, Romo was off in the Bears game, no question. but he is not the Cowboys main problem. not by a long shot.
if they can establish the run things change for this team. Garrett just seems to go away from it. its' like the run starts out working, then gets stuffed a couple times, and he goes away from it.
Romo has thrown 90 some odd times in the first two games. way too many attempts. on top of that, they run on every 2nd down! so when they do decide to run, the D knows it's coming! its so #######g predictable!
So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?I wouldn't have said it prior to this year. But this year it IS true.Romo is not the primary reason, but make no mistake, he is a large part of it. I think part of it is Garrett's playcalling is putting Romo in very bad situations. Garrett really needs to go...this is not true.Romo, most of the time, goes through his progressions well.It's not that he misses a couple throws, he just makes bad decisions on who to throw to. We've seen it time and again, a guy is wide open 15 yards downfield, and Romo dumps it off to someone 5 yards downfield who then gets tackled immediately. Or he misconnects on a 30 yard toss when someone else is wide open on a slant with open field ahead.Romo also frequently locks onto receivers, instead of going through progressions. I don't know whether that is Garrett's playcalling where there is only one option, or Romo not scanning the field ... But given Garrett's penchant for overly complex playcalling, I'd wager it's more Romo not going through his reads.The complaining about Romo is so tedious. I typically don't pay attention to whiney Cowboys fans, but really, look at the NFL right now. Who do you want at QB? Who has "heart'? After you list about 3 or 4 guys, the list ends. Without Romo, the Cowboys would blow. Badly. Guy just threw for 374 yards. But he missed a couple throws! I don't like his face! Stop.
he's not perfect, and can make some bad decisions when he's pressured, but you make it sound like he's doing this all the time.
look, Romo was off in the Bears game, no question. but he is not the Cowboys main problem. not by a long shot.
if they can establish the run things change for this team. Garrett just seems to go away from it. its' like the run starts out working, then gets stuffed a couple times, and he goes away from it.
Romo has thrown 90 some odd times in the first two games. way too many attempts. on top of that, they run on every 2nd down! so when they do decide to run, the D knows it's coming! its so #######g predictable!
well, given that the context of my post was THIS year, and THIS year is only two games old, what do you think? My opinion on what has been the problem in the first two games should be based on last years' playoff games? You do realize that make no sense, right? Romo has been part of the problem THIS year, that doesn't mean he's a bad QB or that he has always played this way. Not everything needs to be in absolutes.So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?
No need to get defensive. I was just curious as to how you came to the conclusion that Romo was not reading through his progressions "this year only" when you have only two games and one of them had serious line issues. Thanks for explaining your reasoning though.well, given that the context of my post was THIS year, and THIS year is only two games old, what do you think? My opinion on what has been the problem in the first two games should be based on last years' playoff games? You do realize that make no sense, right? Romo has been part of the problem THIS year, that doesn't mean he's a bad QB or that he has always played this way. Not everything needs to be in absolutes.So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?
I came to the conclusion by watching the games. Whether it's a result of a bad line, changes in personnel, bad playcalling, or UFOs... this year Romo is not making good decisions with the ball, and has frequently locked onto receivers. I believe there is a post a few posts up which outlines a few of these mistakes.Once again, it doesn't make Romo a bad QB, even great QBs struggle at times.No need to get defensive. I was just curious as to how you came to the conclusion that Romo was not reading through his progressions "this year only" when you have only two games and one of them had serious line issues. Thanks for explaining your reasoning though.well, given that the context of my post was THIS year, and THIS year is only two games old, what do you think? My opinion on what has been the problem in the first two games should be based on last years' playoff games? You do realize that make no sense, right? Romo has been part of the problem THIS year, that doesn't mean he's a bad QB or that he has always played this way. Not everything needs to be in absolutes.So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?
Seems to me that he is hurrying through his throws, not necessarily making bad decisions. The throws to Choice, Witten and the other one that was tipped and intercepted weren't bad decisions, but rather bad throws. From what I remember, last year, he had a slow start with his accuracy and then started to come along after the first few games. Maybe he just needs the first few regular seasons games to get back into his groove...but, like you said, he isn't the only problem this team has at the moment.I came to the conclusion by watching the games. Whether it's a result of a bad line, changes in personnel, bad playcalling, or UFOs... this year Romo is not making good decisions with the ball, and has frequently locked onto receivers. I believe there is a post a few posts up which outlines a few of these mistakes.Once again, it doesn't make Romo a bad QB, even great QBs struggle at times.No need to get defensive. I was just curious as to how you came to the conclusion that Romo was not reading through his progressions "this year only" when you have only two games and one of them had serious line issues. Thanks for explaining your reasoning though.well, given that the context of my post was THIS year, and THIS year is only two games old, what do you think? My opinion on what has been the problem in the first two games should be based on last years' playoff games? You do realize that make no sense, right? Romo has been part of the problem THIS year, that doesn't mean he's a bad QB or that he has always played this way. Not everything needs to be in absolutes.So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?
I have absolutely no idea what this is trying to say.well, given that the context of my post was THIS year, and THIS year is only two games old, what do you think? My opinion on what has been the problem in the first two games should be based on last years' playoff games? You do realize that make no sense, right? Romo has been part of the problem THIS year, that doesn't mean he's a bad QB or that he has always played this way. Not everything needs to be in absolutes.So you are basing your opinion from a two game sample and one of those games had two starting linemen out, most likely causing Romo to have to hurry through progressions due to lack of time?
Another roider for the Texans?Some good news, Cowboy fans.Duane Brown, Texans starting LT has been suspended for 4 games. He is not appealling.This could significantly hurt the Texans pass protection and run blocking.
He says he took a supplement with a banned substance that he did not know about.I tell you, if I were fortunate enough to be a pro football player, I would just stay away from the supplements. It isjust too easy to get in trouble.Another roider for the Texans?Some good news, Cowboy fans.Duane Brown, Texans starting LT has been suspended for 4 games. He is not appealling.This could significantly hurt the Texans pass protection and run blocking.
Agreed, people are amazing and have no clue. I admit I have not been around lately cause these two weeks have made me sick but I am still a fan and always will be. This thing is a marathon not a sprint. Lets see if they can catch their stride. I mean it is not like they are getting blown out or have been playing any where near good football.Look we are 1 game outa first, this is a down year in the NFC East.This is a huge game for the Cowboys and the coaching staff. If they go 0-3 into the bye week I hate to see what will happen. I really think they win this week. Romo will throw for 400 yards for sure, I mean really Mcnabb did vs the Texans. Watch and learn, the season is not two games long.Anyone who is blaming Romo is just an idiot. Sorry. You are. First off, without Romo this team would have been 5-11 the past three years. Second, he didnt lose the game for us, the penalties and stupid plays did. He didnt fumble the ball, Choice did in the first game and ROY did in the second game. Those are not on Romo. He put this team in a position to win several times and stupidity cost them the score each time. He put this team in field goal range, the kicker misses. He puts the team in a position to get some points, ROY fumbles. I guess all the fairweather fans are forgetting the Quincy Carter days. Be happy we have Romo. Sure sucked between Aikman and him.
Just by supporting the team and making sure my Sunday Ticket bill gets payed on time.I have been a loyal Cowboy Fan since I was 6. I feel every loss and every win. So forgive me if I say We instead of They because if I didn't feel like part of the team I wouldn't bother watching each and every week.How will you be contributing to that effort?I love all of the haters coming in and kicking the Cowboys when they think they are down.![]()
Get your shots in while you can. We will get this ship righted and be back in it this weekend.
SoTexans = A&MCowboys = UT?The Houston fanbase maybe the most irritating NFL fanbase going right now. They actually think there is a "rivalry" between these two teams. Not a single person on the Cowboys team gives two ####s about the Texans.Witten berating the team doctor on the sideline for five minutes, Jason Garret's horrible playcalling and Texans fans calling Dallas talk radio telling us how the Texans are the lone star state's team. Awesome.![]()