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*** Official 2011 New York Giants Thread *** (1 Viewer)

RC94

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Post thoughts and/or news on the NY Giants here. This was another disappointing ending to the season. This team has room to improve. What free agents do you think they should go after? How about the draft? Coaching changes? Any other thoughts as well...

I will try to keep track of the major moves the team makes here:

 
Sounds like Tom and staff are staying on.

I'm wondering if they let Steve Smith walk with the emergence of Hagan, who played very well in his absence (including today).

Do they open the wallet for Ahmad? I think they need to, because what other options is there? Lots of questions this offseason.

 
I don't think they should let Smith walk, Eli seems loss without him (all though Eli does click with Hakeem)

Not sure how wide they are going to open the wallet for AB due to injury concerns and fumbling but I would love to see him stay

I assume they are going to get another corner an impact LB would be great and they need to address the offensive line

 
They need to stop pretending that they can get away with late draft picks or castoff free agents at LB. Once and for all they need the big play LB who can step up when the game is on the line and make a stop on the stud RB, running QB, or TE going across the middle. Wouldn't hurt if he was a leader as well.

Similar comments about the O-Line who are looking old. Time to make a big investment there.

 
They need to stop pretending that they can get away with late draft picks or castoff free agents at LB. Once and for all they need the big play LB who can step up when the game is on the line and make a stop on the stud RB, running QB, or TE going across the middle. Wouldn't hurt if he was a leader as well.Similar comments about the O-Line who are looking old. Time to make a big investment there.
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I really think special teams were a HUGE detriment to this teams success in 2010. They never had a short field and Ware ended up 34th in YPA on returns(only 20 attempts).

Not sure where/when to take the shot, but I would really enjoy bringing a game changer to the return game. Someone who could give you a short field(or 6 points) in the blink of an eye.

No guarantees how Hixon comes back either. Jerrel Jernigan from Troy is the type of guy I would love to bring in.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...1&genpos=WR

 
They need to stop pretending that they can get away with late draft picks or castoff free agents at LB. Once and for all they need the big play LB who can step up when the game is on the line and make a stop on the stud RB, running QB, or TE going across the middle. Wouldn't hurt if he was a leader as well.Similar comments about the O-Line who are looking old. Time to make a big investment there.
So true. I can't imagine how good the D would be with a Willis type.
 
Dont let Steve Smith walk, he is a 3rd down specialist, even with Nicks, Smith is a huge threat. We need him

 
if they let Bradshaw walk do they go with Ware and Jacobs or grab a rookie in the draft?? Seems like they would want to keep AB . . .

 
I agree with a lot of what's been said so far. I would like to see the coaching staff get another year. LB is a big need. The offensive line played really well this year but they need to invest more in it for the long term. I am not an Eli fan but they are stuck with him. If I have time this week I am going to post a more detailed evaluation by position.

 
I think they'll keep Bradshaw, I don't think he's shown enough for another team to toss a $ amount at him that the Giants can't match.

They'll keep Smith. With how the offense struggled without him and all the injuries to WR the team should keep him.

Shawn Andrews showed the skills of a starter but that back of his doesn't warrant starter $. I hope they do a new contract that's incentive laden, My understanding is his current contract has a huge jump in $ if they keep him after this season.

It will be interesting if they can keep Kiwi. He might get an offer the Giants can't match.

They need a probowl talent at LB to replace Goff and/or Bullock. Sintim was a disappointment thus far, and now has a torn ACL.

Boss is a safety valve, getting a TE that's a threat like the top TEs would be a huge benefit.

I'd like to see another Lineman, especially a center with O'Hara getting old, and Seubert having only 1 more year on his contract and a possible torn patellar tendon. Beatty and Petrus look like they'll be starters in the next 2 years probably for McKenzie and Seubert, though Beatty seems to get most of his practice reps at LT rather than RT.

I'd like a RB added in the draft because I don't think Danny Ware is going to become much more than what he is now, a garbage time back and he didn't get much time as that this season.

A KR would be a welcome addition. Get a veteran punter to compete with Dodge in camp, if Dodge doesn't improve cut him.

So for me priority is keeping Fewell, LB, TE, C, RB, KR.

I look forward to see how the WRs develop especially Hixon, Barden, Cruz, Clayton, Thomas, Calhoun, Hagan.

 
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Disappointing year as this team just killed themselves all year long. Biggest need is the same as the last few years a top LB. Will they go get one at this point I doubt it. Even if they fix this need they need to address their biggest problem which is protecting the football, which I think comes down to coaching.

I think the team should try and keep both Bradshaw and Smith but not sure they do.

 
I really disagree that LB is a top priority. This defense was one of the top ranked units all year, at least up until the last couple games. I'd love a new LB (and I believe that Reese will address the position), but I don't think it's at the top of the list.

For me, unfortunately, the biggest issue is coaching. I say unfortunately because nothing is going to change on that front. This team is loaded with talent, they should be one of the top teams year in and year out, but they aren't. The turnover problems, while a little fluky this year, come down to lack of focus. They just seemed unprepared at times and all of that comes down to coaching, in my eyes. Coughlin doesn't seem to know how to motivate players anymore and Gilbride is the king of bonehead, series killing play calling (I swear, if I see his patented "shotgun draw for no gain" called again I'm going to throw myself off a bridge).

Since nothing is going to change there, I would say the top priority should be shoring up the offensive line. They are very, very lucky that the line didn't completely collapse this year. I'd hate to roll the dice again.

I'd like to keep Bradshaw as I think he is a dynamic player, but I wouldn't break the bank for him. I believe Danny Ware is a legit player, too, so if Bradshaw goes, I think Ware can step in, especially if the O line is addressed.

No way they let Steve Smith walk. He's really one of the top receivers in the game and between him and Nicks, the Giants have a very, very good passing game.

But, I don't know that any of that stuff matters if the coaching staff doesn't change. I'm not sure I'm in love with Fewell, but the defense looked good for most of the season so I don't see how you can blame him too much. Coughlin and Gilbride have consistently found ways to do less with more for years now. It's unbelievably frustrating to watch this team fall apart year after year when they have so much talent at so many positions. Based on talent, they should be in the same conversation as the Colts, Pats, Steelers of the world, in the mix to win it every year. Instead, outside of one perfectly timed hot run (which I would easily defend as the players winning it all in spite of the coaching), we have a bunch of seasons with first round exits or missing the playoffs out right.

Time for a change, but it won't happen. The Maras are very loyal people, which is something I really respect. But they are being loyal to a fault with Coughlin and I wish they would make a move, especially with a great option like Cowher waiting in the wings.

 
Anyone have a list of UFA and RFA for the Giants?
New York GiantsPos Player Name FA Status QB Sage Rosenfels UFA RB Ahmad Bradshaw UFA WR Derek Hagan UFA WR Steve E. Smith UFA TE Kevin Boss UFA OT Adam Koets UFA OG Kevin Boothe UFA DL Mathias Kiwanuka UFA LB Gerris Wilkinson UFA SS Michael Johnson UFADeOssie was listed too but I swear he got a new contract in the preseason.http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/fr...Team&y=2011

Cofield is rumored to be gone, since he was being offered to the Saints last offseason.

 
I got this list from the Daily News link

Anyway, for what it’s worth, here are the players not under contract for next year, as of now. Their 2010 salaries, according to NFLPA records, are in parenthesis:

LB Chase Blackburn ($650,000)

OL Kevin Boothe ($1,176,000)

TE Kevin Boss ($1,350,000)

RB Ahmad Bradshaw ($1,001,000)

DB Courtney Brown ($470,000)

LB Keith Bulluck ($855,000)

WR Michael Clayton ($630,000)

DT Barry Cofield ($1,759,000)

S Deon Grant ($855,000)

WR Derek Hagan ($630,000)

WR Domenik Hixon ($1,684,000)

S Michael Johnson ($1,350,000)

DE Mathias Kiwanuka ($1,776,000)

OL Jamon Meredith ($395,000)

TE Bear Pascoe ($395,000)

WR Darius Reynaud ($470,000)

WR Steve Smith ($555,000)

QB Jim Sorgi ($630,000)

DE Dave Tollefson ($1,684,000)

RB DJ Ware ($545,000)

LB Gerris Wilkinson ($1,176,000)

CB Brian Witherspoon *
 
Chairshot,

I have no problem with Coughlin

I am not the biggest Gilbride fan on the planet but his offense has been very productive.

Look at the stats for this year

10th in passing offense

6th in rushing offense (2nd in the league with 23 plus 20 yard runs)

5th in overall offense

7th in scoring offense

Unfortunately this offense led the league in turnovers with 42! 42!

Eli lost 5 fumbles and threw a career high 25 interceptions

Bradshaw lost 6 fumbles

Jacobs lost 2 fumbles

 
Sounds like they are going to extend Coughlin. I'm still torn on it, have heard strong opinions from either side, just not really sure how I feel about it yet.

I agree with those who mention OL and LB as two very high areas of need. Just as important, though, is I really believe they need to resign Stevie. The type of connection he and Eli have, to the point where they basically seem to have tremendous ESP when a big 3rd down play is needed, is exactly the safety valve that was sorely missing over the last few weeks where that playoff spot just melted away...

 
I expected the front 4 to generate a devastating pass rush this season, but it seemed when only 4 were rushed there was no pressure and they had to rush a LB or S.

I hope that upgrading a LB spot or 2 will fix things. I don't see the team being able to acquire a DT that's disruptive like a Suh.

Could be the Giants need to get more studs. The Giants have 3 at DE possibly 4 with JPP & Nicks.

 
Here is my evaluation of the NY Giants as of now:

Offensive Line:

Despite sustaining a lot of injuries, this group played great this year. The NYG gave up the fewest sacks in the NFL (tied with IND with 16), tied for the 3rd fewest QB hits, rushed for the 6th most yards as a team and had the 6th best yards per carry as a team. Overall they were one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. All of that was with at times a patchwork line with players having to shift around and several backups seeing significant playing time due to injuries.

However, despite having a good year there are some issues for this group going forward and investments in the draft are needed. All of the starters except for Snee are over 30 years old going into next season and Snee will be 29 so they are an aging group. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to continue to play so well with lots of injuries and advancing age. Andrews and Beatty played well in limited work but Andrews is a big risk with his back problems and Beatty couldn’t win the starting LT job over an average LT in David Diehl. McKenzie rebounded from a disappointing 2009 season but is getting old and O’Hara missed most of the year and is the oldest starter on the line. Beatty needs to step up his game even more and win a starting job, ideally the LT position so Diehl can move to LG, where he will be much better than at LT. That would also allow Seubert to move to being the #6 o-lineman, where he is great. He is very versatile and can play most positions on the offensive line. In fact he started a number of games this year at both LG and C. Unfortunately, he dislocated his kneecap in the last game of the year so that only increases the need for more quality depth on the line.

QB:

Eli played poorly this year. He turns the ball over way too much and is not a good leader. Some of the interceptions were a result of tipped passes, but that happens to every QB so that doesn’t excuse his huge amount of turnovers. Analysts were making a big deal about the speech Eli gave to the team late in the season and how it was the first time he did that. He has been heavily criticized throughout his career for his lack of leadership skills and I don’t think giving one speech in the end of his 7th season really means he is finally stepping up. IMO he is a mediocre starting QB and after 7 years he pretty much is what he is. The Giants won the Super Bowl in 2007 by playing great defense and running the ball really well and if they are going to win it again with Eli it’s going to have to be the same way. Eli’s contract is huge so they are stuck with him. He is one of the most overpaid players in the NFL. Considering the team has surrounded him with very good talent on all levels of the offense since the other areas of the offense are very good, his poor performance is that much more disappointing.

Rosenfels didn’t play this year but he is a good backup so I hope they keep him around. Since the NYGs aren’t going to get rid of Eli anytime soon and the team has other pressing needs, drafting a QB early in the draft doesn’t make much sense.

RBs:

This is a good RB corps and they played really well this year. They are in good shape for the foreseeable future, especially if they can keep Bradshaw around. Ware would be a good #2 and he makes a great #3. He is also a good returner. I really hope they keep this group together although they have had a knack for finding talent when needed so losing one of them (if any, I hope it’s Jacobs) and replacing him with a 4th round or later pick won’t really hurt this group as a whole.

WR and TE:

They have invested a lot in the WR corps and there is a lot of talent here. Even though they sustained tons of injuries, including having S. Smith, Barden, Hixon and Cruz all finish the year on the IR (or in Hixon’s case cut and injury settlement) they still managed to play well as a group. Going forward, with most or all of them getting healthy again, this will remain a strong group. Smith is a free agent and bringing him back should be a priority IMO. Hagan is also a free agent and I would like to see him re-signed. He shouldn’t cost too much and played well so he is worth it. Even if Smith isn’t ready to go early in the season next year Nicks is a legit #1 WR, Manningham can be a good #2 next to Nicks, Hagan is a good possession WR and Barden and Cruz have interesting potential. If Hixon can get healthy and signs with the NYG, he will also improve the special teams since he was one of the best all-around special teams players on the team.

At TE Boss may not be a great fantasy TE but he is perfect for what the NYG need. Unless there is a significant shift in offensive philosophy, the TE position will not have a Gates-type of fantasy producer. The NYG want a well-balanced TE who can block well and catch the ball well when needed. Boss fills that role very well. Boss is a good example of a player who is much better from an NFL perspective than he is from a fantasy perspective. Beckum is one-dimensional and needs to learn how to block much better if he wants to see more playing time without an injury to Boss. Boss is a free agent and I hope they re-sign him.

Defensive Line:

The DEs are probably the best DE corps in the NFL. There isn’t a lot to say about this group that hasn’t already been said. Taking another DE early in the draft would be overkill, unless they lose a key player between now and the draft. I can see the franchise tag being used on Kiwanuka, if necessary, and if the franchise tag is still part of the CBA. Either way, I hope they keep him around and keep this group together.

The DTs, on the other hand, are above average and can stand to improve. Canty was healthier this year and played pretty well, and Coefield remains a solid starter although there are rumors he is not going to be re-signed. Joseph has potential but didn’t do much. He is the one I am really hoping can step up and push the DTs into being a very good unit. Bernard is a decent veteran backup/part of the rotation. Unlike at DE, they don’t have any elite players at DT and if they lose Coefield they will be thin on quality depth. The entire defense is driven by the defensive line so maintaining this strength is a good idea but I would say a 3rd or 4th round pick here would be smarter than a 1st or 2nd round pick if the BPA early in the draft isn’t clearly a DT. Linebacker and offensive line are more pressing needs but in my opinion DT is 3rd on their list of needs.

Linebackers:

This could be the worst group of linebackers in the NFL. This is certainly the biggest team need and since they haven’t invested any quality picks in this group in years, aside from a wasted 2nd round pick on Sintim 2 years ago, it’s no surprise they are awful. They need 3 new starters and they need them ASAP. The D-line has hidden some of the flaws of this unit but they are so bad an upgrade here would do wonders for the defense as a whole. Sometimes there are good free agents at this position so I am interested in seeing what the free agents are like. Even if they can get a good free agent or 2, they need to use an early draft pick on a linebacker as well. If they continue to neglect this group I really question what Reece is thinking.

Defensive Backs:

You know your linebackers are bad when the team’s leading tackler is a CB. T. Thomas lead the NYG in tackles this year and that was in part because the CBs needed to help support the run defense to cover for the weakness at LB. Overall this is a good group of CBs but I wouldn’t be against bringing in another one with potential via the draft, especially if he is a good kick/punt returner.

The Giants reworked the safeties last year, kind of like what they need to do with the linebackers this year, and it worked out well. Rolle got the biggest contract a safety has gotten in NFL history but he played well and was a team leader. Phillips played in all 16 games so bouncing back and staying healthy all year was encouraging but I am not sure he has that superstar potential anymore. Grant was a very good DB and played well as a relatively cheap free agent pickup. Overall, the secondary played well and has solid depth.

Special Teams:

Tynes is a below-average to average kicker and it seems like when he misses it’s at the worst times. His FG made percentage was below average last year and I wouldn’t be against replacing him. It isn’t a priority compared to other positions but there are often good kickers available in free agency. Dodge had a rough rookie year but if he didn’t get cut after that terrible play against PHI, I doubt it’s going to happen this year. Dodge has a big leg but no accuracy. Sometimes that big leg is bad, however, because he kicks it further down the field than the coverage can get in time, giving the returner a chance to get a good return. I hope he can become more accurate and get more control over his leg power as he continues to learn how to be a NFL punter. His average of 44.8 was 9th in the league which is good for a rookie but his net average of 34.3 was 31st, which is terrible. I think it also means they need help in coverage personnel. You can’t blame all of it on Dodge. Kick and punt returns were pretty poor. Ware was the best KR and I would like to see him keep the job. Punt returns need improvement.

 
Looks like Bullock doesn't expect he'll sign with the Giants for next season unless they make him an every down LB or if he's limited, he wants to play passing downs. He came out on passing downs, and was used mostly as a run stopper. Says he'll retire if they want him in the same role.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2011/01..._says_he_w.html

Good write up RC94. It's Eli and Boss where I feel differently. I think Eli has shown leadership, for example he was correcting players when they ran the wrong route, missing blocks or cutting the route short this season. He also didn't pass blame, he accepted more than his share in pressers.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/10...nts_blow_1.html

"The TV cameras only caught a glimpse of Manning gesturing toward Bradshaw after a failed second-and-10 in the third quarter. After they cut away, Manning was correcting Bradshaw on which way he should have gone for a blitz pickup. Bradshaw didn’t get far enough left and Manning was pressured. He didn’t exactly shove him in the back but he was there to correct him immediately."

I think Eli's INTs will comeback down as the team improves and when that does his stats TD and yardage stats should at worst stay the same but likely go up. Next season I expect his INTs to be around 15-17, that should equate to about 5 more TDs for the offense.

Your higher on Boss than I am. He's just a safety valve, it would great if the team could get a TE like Gates, Clark, Witten, Davis, Winslow. A TE that is too fast and athletic for a LB to cover, too big for a DB to defend, and can block. A TE like that would make it hard for Nicks to get double teamed. With Nicks, Smith, Mannigham and a stud TE on the field, someone is going to be seeing soft coverage.

The draft doesn't have many TE's but there are some good ones. Owen Daniels might be a FA, wouldn't hurt to take a look at him to see if he's a significant upgrade over Boss.

 
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I think they need to start using stickum again....I have never seen so many well thrown balls bounce off of the hands of receivers in a single year.....ever! Bring back Plaxico if you can....everything seemed to work better with him in the lineup. Hopefully they keep steve smith. Manningham showed signs of greatness but I think more passes bounced off of his hands than the rest of the WRs put together. I am still in shock when I think of how great they looked against the Eagles until the middle of that fourth quarter....the defense looked amazing until then, then they looked worse than I have seen in years.

 
The sky is not falling here.

This is one of the best all around teams in the league.

The Giants are awful at LB, and this is their biggest need for them to be more consistent on defense.

Eli although he has the odd turn over troubles is a very good NFL QB. They are extemely talented on offense and their WR's are only getting better.

 
I agree with the sentiment to bring Smith back, but, from what I recall, his knee injury was severe enough there is question if he will be ready for the beginning of next season. Not sure how you approach a contract with him under that scenario.

Really hoping for Gilbride to be purged. While it is great to see the passing game when it is clicking, the G-men need to commit to the run more than he does. Plain and simple. Not sure of who could be brought in, but this would be a change for the better, IMHO.

 
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/20...-stuck-in-limbo

A look at the 21 Giants stuck in limbo

BY Ralph Vacchiano

For much of the last decade, the Giants have had a simple and logical approach to keeping their nucleus together. When a player they liked neared free agency, they made a pre-emptive move to sign him. If they wanted a guy, they’d get him before he hit the open market. Usually, even if it looked like they overpaid at the time, eventually the deal would look like a bargain.

They did it with everyone - - Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, David Diehl, Chris Snee, Eli Manning. They even did it, way back when, with Plaxico Burress and Jeremy Shockey.

So why, with less than two months before the theoretical start to the free-agent signing period, are the Giants saddled with so many players who are unsigned?

Blame the NFL and the NFL players’ association, who have been unable to reach a new collective bargaining agreement. That has restricted the ability of most teams to lock up players to long-term contracts, without getting creative with a lot of big balloon payments and bonuses. The Giants could have gone that route, too, but they have made the intelligent decision not to.

After all, how could you justify a big-money, long-term extension to a player now without knowing important details, like future salary cap numbers and other CBA rules?

“We’re going to do what we can to try to keep the team intact, but some of that is going to depend on what the rules are and what the (new salary) cap is,” co-owner John Mara said. “It’s hard to make intelligent decisions right now until you know what system we’re going to be operating under and what cap room is going to be available.”

Both Mara and GM Jerry Reese confirmed this week that none of the Giants’ key free agents-to-be will get new deals before a new CBA is signed. The old one expires on March 3. The new one could be signed at any time, though most people involved in the NFL believe a lockout starting in March is a virtual certainty. Whether it lasts a week, or into July, or even into September is anybody’s guess.

But the 21 players on the Giants’ current roster who are unsigned for 2011 are stuck in limbo until then.

Below is a look at the 21 in alphabetical order, with their 2010 salaries in parenthesis, followed by my brief analysis on their situation. In some cases I may even venture a guess about what the Giants plan to do. But keep in mind there’s no way to know the true status of these players - - “restricted” or “unrestricted” - - until there’s a new CBA.

LB Chase Blackburn ($650,000) – Given the crummy state of their special teams this year, it’s hard to see them jettisoning their special teams captain (and one of their best special teams player). He won’t cost much, either. Only factor may be if someone else gives him a better chance to play at LB. That could entice him to leave.

OL Kevin Boothe ($1,176,000) – A valuable reserve whom the Giants would like to keep, but the price is higher after he performed so well this year. He’s another guy who could see a better opportunity to play elsewhere.

TE Kevin Boss ($1,350,000) – A very interesting case. He’s an improved blocker and an underutilized receiver. The Giants like him, but what if someone else – say, someone out west nearer to his Oregon home – dangles a bigger role in the offense? A lot of people believe he’s got a 70-catch season in him somewhere. But he won’t get that opportunity in New York.

RB Ahmad Bradshaw ($1,001,000) -- He had an impressive 1,235-yard season, but those seven fumbles (six lost) were killers. Plus, he has so many injuries - - feet, wrist, ankles. Running backs are big-money players. The Giants gave Brandon Jacobs a sizeable deal despite injury concerns two years ago and he never lived up to the money. Bradshaw is only 24, though, and he’s explosive. It’s a gamble they may have to take.

DB Courtney Brown ($470,000) – He spent the entire season on injured reserve, and to be honest I thought he had been waived/injured back in September. But the Giants confirm he was still on the roster (on IR) at the end of the season. He won’t be there for long, though.

LB Keith Bulluck ($855,000) – He says he won’t come back and play a limited role, which means he’s not coming back. It was worth the risk to sign him and the Giants got a serviceable performance. But he’s getting older and the Giants need to get younger and faster at linebacker.

WR Michael Clayton ($630,000) – An emergency fill-in who didn’t do much once he got here. He’ll have to continue his quest to revive his NFL career elsewhere.

DT Barry Cofield ($1,759,000) -- Cofield has a solid season, but make no mistake: He wants to be paid. He wasn’t happy that the CBA uncertainty blew his chance at the open market last offseason, or that the Giants haven’t tried to re-sign him. Also, when he was nearly traded to New Orleans on draft day, the trade fell through because the Saints’ contract offer wasn’t enough. With DTs Chris Canty and Rocky Bernard already signed to big deals, and second-rounder Linval Joseph in the wings, the Giants may not be willing to break the bank for another DT.

S Deon Grant ($855,000) – He’s another interesting case because he played very well and was an essential part of the Giants’ three-safety defense, which was basically their base D. He’s 31, so he’s probably better suited to more of a reserve role than he was asked to play. And the Giants probably will transition back to a more regular 4-3, assuming they can upgrade at linebacker. But he’s a smart player and good in the locker room. Leaders are important, too. I suspect he’ll get at least a short-term offer to stay.

WR Derek Hagan ($630,000) – They got a lot more out of him than they could have expected when they brought him back. It’s hard to overlook the fact that they cut him back in September, though. Clearly the Giants aren’t high on him. But he might have improved his stock. So if the price is right, he could come back.

WR Domenik Hixon ($1,684,000) --A dynamic return man, Hixon could be just the jolt the Giants’ terrible return game needs. The only issue is that he tore the ACL in his right knee back in June. He says his recovery has been smooth, but the only way to tell if he’s lost any explosiveness is to see it on the field. They were never able to find a viable replacement, though. They probably have to give him a chance.

S Michael Johnson ($1,350,000) – He was on his way out before he got hurt. The Giants were disappointed in his 2009 performance and now, with a healthy Kenny Phillips back, they’re overloaded at his position. The $1.3 million tender they gave him last spring was not money well spent.

DE Mathias Kiwanuka ($1,776,000) -- The herniated disc in his neck has still not healed, and Reese already said the Giants may have to offer him just a one-year deal “so that he can re-establish his value.” He was the Giants’ best defensive player early in the season, but it doesn’t help his situation that DE Osi Umenyiora had a revival season (11 ½ sacks) and that rookie DE Jason Pierre-Paul looks like a keeper.

OL Jamon Meredith ($395,000) – A solid depth player who’ll likely get a minimum offer from the Giants and an invitation to camp.

TE Bear Pascoe ($395,000) – I don’t think there’s any question the Giants want him back, though they won’t overpay even a little for a fullback/blocking tight end. Since it’s unlikely he’ll find big money somewhere else, figure he’ll be back in camp. The better question is “As what?” Maybe converting him full-time to fullback isn’t a bad idea.

WR Darius Reynaud ($470,000) – Upgrading at returner is a big offseason priority. He’s clearly not the answer.

WR Steve Smith ($555,000) -- The Giants’ only Pro Bowl receiver in the last 42 years, Smith is Eli Manning’s best and most reliable receiver. He’s also his favorite target. However, he needed microfracture surgery to repair the torn articular cartilage in his left knee and he likely won’t running until mid-June. He caught 48 passes for 529 yards and three touchdowns in nine games last year. But will he ever be near a Pro Bowl level again? He’s another one that may have to settle for a one-year deal for now.

QB Jim Sorgi ($630,000) – A good guy who would’ve been a valuable backup. But he’s got shoulder issues, coming off shoulder surgery, and the Giants have Sage Rosenfels under contract for next season. So there’s no compelling reason to bring the former Daily News guest blogger back. He is, however, welcome to continue guest blogging. I don’t think I can pay him $630,000 though.

DE Dave Tollefson ($1,684,000) – He’s a tough, high-energy player who is good on special teams and the Giants like him. But the price is high considering he’s the fifth defensive end on the depth chart. I’ve got to think that he believes he’ll have a better opportunity to play somewhere else.

RB DJ Ware ($545,000) – He didn’t show enough as a kick returner and didn’t get much of an opportunity as a third-down back. He could come back for the minimum and provide depth. But he’s luxury, not a necessity.

LB Gerris Wilkinson ($1,176,000) – He’s a solid special teams player, but he’s not going to play linebacker here. He’d have to accept that and a minimum offer. Otherwise he’ll try his luck elsewhere.

 
Beat writer Garafolo says about Fewell "Was saying 50/50 but leaning more toward 60/40 he leaves now"

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo

Carolina is really interested, and he has interviews with Broncos and Browns. If Fewell leaves, Garafolo says former Carolina head coach, John Fox would be at the top of the list to return to the Giants as Defensive Coordinator.

 
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Florida defensive back Will Hill attending Giants' local prospect day

Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger The Star-Ledger

There's often a lot of confusion circulated when it comes to which players teams are bringing in for pre-draft visits. The reason is teams are allowed to bring in as many players who attended local colleges or grew up in the area for workouts but are limited to 30 non-local visits, so local players are sometimes portrayed as being high on a team's draft board when they're actually not.

But in some cases, players who come in on free visits are on a team's radar. And indications are Florida defensive back Will Hill has the Giants intrigued.

Hill, a West Orange native, is one of a bunch of prospects who are either natives of the metropolitan area or attended schools in and around Jersey that are at the Giants' facility right now. They're there for a pre-draft workout so the Giants can get another look (or a first look) at these players.

Hill's stock has slipped because of character concerns and a performance at his pro day that was considered so-so at best. In fact, the Sporting News called it an "up-and-down day," as he ran 40-yard dashes in 4.66 and 4.72 seconds while somehow looking both "stiff" and "explosive" at the same time. Go figure. Indications are Hill was prepared to do the full gamut of drills for the Giants' workout today.

The team has also taken plenty of measures to look into the personal side of things on Hill, who has raised red flags because of a suspension at Florida and a, um, lively Twitter account he and his agent claim was hacked.

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Other players in attendance today:

-- Syracuse LB Doug Hogue, whom many believe will go late in the draft.

-- Temple S Jaiquawn Jarrett, another late-round pick.

-- Cincinnati WR Vidal Hazelton, a projected late-round pick/undrafted free agent, tweeted he's at the Giants' "amazing" facility.

-- Notre Dame wide receiver Duval Kamara, a Hoboken native, according to his agent, Brian Kaufman.

-- Virginia LB Darnell Carter also tweeted his presence.

-- Yale DE/LB Tom McCarthy, who impressed at his pro day with a 4.72-second 40 and a 35-inch vert.

-- Indiana (Pa.) DE/LB Mike Gee, who had a decent showing in the Texas vs. the Nation game.

-- Most, if not all, of the Rutgers prospects, including C Howard Barbieri and S Joe Lefeged.

-- Temple DT Muhammad Wilkerson, a potential first-round pick, had his own visit the other day.

But again, just because these players are there doesn't mean the Giants are hot for them. Stay tuned.

 
2011 Giants Draft Needs

by Eric from BigBlueInteractive.com

April 4, 2011

The Giants proved to be one of the NFL’s elite teams in 2007 and 2008. Those Giants’ teams were very balanced offensively and defensively with respectable special teams units. In 2009, the Giants nose-dived to an 8-8 finish after a 5-0 start as the Giants’ defense became a laughing stock. In 2010, the team rebounded to 10-6 and a second-place finish in the NFC East. The defense was vastly improved, but it still came up short at key moments in big ball games, including both games against the Eagles, the second Cowboys game, and the embarrassing defensive performance against the Packers. Special teams were an abomination.

The strength of the team in 2009 and 2010 was the offense. However, the foundation of that offense – the offensive line – is now very much in transition. The running game has solid backs but no one special. A potential top-tier receiving corps could be sabotaged by Steve Smith’s injury status.

The Giants very much have the feel of a team in transition. To have a successful 2011 season, they are going to have to find a way to quickly retool the offensive line, hope Steve Smith hasn’t lost too much mojo, become mentally tougher and physically more talented on defense, and dramatically improve their special teams play. That’s a lot to ask for in one offseason with no free agency.

Quarterback: The Giants are in excellent shape with Eli Manning and Sage Rosenfels. Spending a draft pick on a developmental quarterback seems like a waste.

Draft Priority: Low

Running Back: If the Giants did nothing at running back, they would still be in good shape with Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, and D.J. Ware. However, it would not be shocking to see the Giants draft a running back high, even in the first round, if the team feels it can acquire a better player than what they have. A truly special running back would make the Giants’ offense very dangerous and none of the current Giants’ halfbacks seem particularly adept in short-yardage or catching the football out of the backfield.

The bigger actual “need” may be at fullback. Madison Hedgecock has had two subpar and injury-plagued seasons in a row. Bear Pascoe was moved to fullback and flashed at times, but also struggled at the position. If the Giants feel Hedgecock is unlikely to regain his 2007-08 form, then fullback is a significant need.

Draft Priority: Medium

Wide Receiver: Much depends on the health status of Steve Smith. The problem is the Giants won’t know if Smith can regain his old form until months from now. My guess is the team won’t go wide receiver high unless someone is clearly ranked very high on their draft board. Other than Smith, the Giants are in good shape with Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Ramses Barden, and Victor Cruz.

Draft Priority: Low

Tight End: Kevin Boss is a good two-way tight end. The problem for the Giants is a lack of depth. If Boss were to go down with an injury, the Giants would be in serious trouble at the position. Travis Beckum has done very little in two years and really is not a typical, hand-in-the-dirt tight end. Jake Ballard went undrafted and is still an unknown. Bear Pascoe did not look good at the position in 2010.

Draft Priority: High

Offensive Line: Once a strength of the team, this area is now filled with question marks. Starting center Shaun O’Hara has age and injury concerns and it is not out of the realm of possibility that the Giants may cut him before training camp. Rich Seubert looked like he had a couple of more years left in him as a guard/center swingman, but his serious knee injury now very much clouds his future. Adam Koets was respectable, but not stellar, in his limited action at center before he tore up his knee. So the Giants have major question marks at center where Mitch Petrus may have a future.

What we do know is that Chris Snee will start at right guard and David Diehl will start at left tackle, or right tackle, or left guard. We don’t know if William Beatty will be good enough to win a starting tackle position. Kareem McKenzie still played well in 2010 but only has one more year left on a big contract. He’s also getting up there in years. Shawn Andrews is due a huge roster bonus and continued to struggle mightily with career-threatening back issues. He might be cut soon after the new CBA is agreed upon.

The Giants are hoping they can build around Snee, Diehl, Beatty, and Petrus. But they need a lot of young, talented bodies here.

Draft Priority: Very high

Defensive Line: It’s not recognized by many fans, but the defensive line is about to undergo a pretty significant transition too. Last year, I said the defensive line was the #1 need area of the team and many fans thought I was nuts. Then the Giants drafted a defensive end in the first round and a defensive tackle in the second round. Guess what? Don’t be shocked to see history repeat itself.

You can talk about linebackers all you want, but a 4-3 defense is predicated on the defensive line. If your defensive line isn’t any good, then you won’t have a good defense. It’s the same with a 3-4 defensive and the linebacker position. If the Giants had a 3-4, they’d spend a lot more high draft picks on linebackers. But they don’t. Accept it.

You ask why the hell would the Giants need another defensive tackle? It’s a good question. Barry Cofield will likely be an unrestricted free agent and there is a good chance he will not re-sign with the Giants. The Giants likely see Chris Canty and Linval Joseph as their formidable inside wall. But Rocky Bernard is too expensive and Dwayne Hendricks is not a serious prospect. The Giants must have a quality 3-man rotation at defensive tackle. The third defensive tackle is critical.

End? C’mon Eric, the Giants have Umenyiora, Tuck, Pierre-Paul, Kiwanuka, and Tollefson! Umenyiora’s contract situation could become Shockey-like and he’s had a lot of wear-and-tear on the lower half of his body. Kiwanuka and Tollefson will likely be unrestricted free agents. The neck injury could actually work in the Giants favor and scare off other teams, but at best, Kiwanuka probably only has one more year with this team. I see Tuck and Pierre-Paul as being the starting duo in 2012, but so much of this defense is based on having a super-strong 3-man rotation at defensive end that enables Tuck or Pierre-Paul to shift inside on passing downs.

Either in 2011 or 2012, the Giants will have to take another end high. If Cofield leaves, tackle is a big need unless the Giants want to keep Bernard around one more year.

Draft Priority: High

Linebackers: Everyone’s favorite need position on defense. And it is a big need area, but I just don’t get the sense that it is as huge of a need as many fans think.

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it 100 times – the third linebacker does not see the field all that much in today’s NFL. In the Perry Fewell’s system, we’re talking about Keith Bulluck’s and Clint Sintim’s weakside spot. Bulluck will probably not be back and Sintim has been a disappointment and is now coming off of a serious knee injury. I would not count out Adrian Tracy, but it is obvious that another body is needed for competition. But at this particular spot, we’re talking about a guy who will see less playing time than the third safety and/or third corner.

In the middle, much depends on what the Giants truly think of Jon Goff and Phillip Dilliard. My gut tells me that the Giants are likely to give both another year and deal with more pressing matters.

That leaves the strongside spot. Michael Boley did well in coverage, but he did not make many impact plays. He’s in the prime of his career and should be doing more. If the Giants draft someone high, I think it is a guy who they hope will replace Boley in a year or two – someone who can cover, play the run, and blitz (in that order). Depth behind Boley is shaky too with the disappointing Gerris Wilkinson.

Look for the Giants to draft at least one linebacker.

Draft Priority: High

Defensive Backs: Like the defensive line, this is probably a bigger area of need than most fans realize.

Let’s look at cornerback first. The Giants most likely still see Corey Webster and Terrell Thomas as their long-term starters. And Aaron Ross is a very good third corner. But both Thomas and Ross will be unrestricted free agents in 2012 and at least one of those guys will not be back. And regardless, teams need four quality corners in today’s NFL. The Giants have a lot of bodies on the roster after the top three guys, but they will be extremely fortunate if any of those other guys pan out.

Safety. In a big role reversal, Antrel Rolle was called upon to be an in-the-box safety and excelled moving forward but not making as many big plays in the passing game as has in the past. Still, he is a very athletic player in his prime. The big question here is whether Kenny Phillips is permanently-damaged goods or was 2010 the expected recovery year. While Phillips was solid, much more is expected of him.

It’s clear that the third safety in Perry Fewell’s defense is a de facto starter. In fact, I would argue the third safety is more important than the third starting linebacker. Deon Grant is near the end and is a free agent. Chad Jones was supposed to be the third guy before his career most likely ended with a car crash. The Giants did not even tender Michael Johnson.

If Grant does not re-sign, safety is a huge need.

Draft Priority: High

Special Teams: This area was a disaster in 2010. Much of this had to do with talent, but the Giants don’t seem able to block anyone in most phases of this important area of the game.

Lawrence Tynes had another good year and is entrenched as the team’s place kicker. Matt Dodge has a tremendous leg but struggled as much as any punter ever has in the NFL. He will be challenged in camp but that challenge will not likely come from another draft pick. Domenik Hixon’s return should help the return game. But the Giants may want to pick another return-type at some point late in the draft. Hopefully most of the guys who they draft will help upgrade the special teams units.

Draft Priority: Medium

Summary: Offensively, I see the major “needs” being blockers: offensive line, tight end, and possibly fullback. Defensively, the Giants could use help just about anywhere. Keep in mind that this team rightfully places more emphasis on defensive linemen and defensive backs than linebackers. If the Giants do go linebacker high, hopefully it will be someone who not only is physically talented, but someone with mental toughness and a nasty attitude. The Giants need more of that on defense.

 
New Punter

Replacement Priority: Mandatory.

I cringed every singled time the Giants had to punt last year. Dodge had trouble catching a snap, putting his foot on the ball, and was abysmal in any sort or touch or directional punting. His line drive punt to DeSean Jackson single handedly cost the Giants a playoff berth in 2010.

 
Yep, loved the pick. Was worried for about 5-6 picks that he was going to fall to the Eagles (Or they would trade up) before it 'dawned' on me that I should be more excited about us nabbing him :P

Second round will be very interesting. I would like Ayers to drop, even though he probably doesn't fit too well atm, but at the same time a few OL names intrigue me.

Either way we will probably stay boring, stay put and take BPA.

 
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Thought this was kind of interesting

The War Room cam during the selection was a stark contrast to some of the images we may have been expecting. I've never seen a room so organized and focused. There was hardly any emotion shown while the 10 minutes melted off the clock. If memory serves me correct, Cowboys VP Stephen Jones fielded only one call during the stretch. He seemed to laugh off whatever was proposed from the other end of the conversation. The happiest we saw head coach Jason Garrett all evening was when the New York Giants selected Prince Amukamara. Let's hope that moment is something we taunt Giants fans with for years, as he was obviously chosen to battle with Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, DeSean Jakckson and Jeremy Maclin.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/4/28/2141029/nfl-2011-draft-cowboys-offensive-tackle-tyron-smith

 
Giants were shocked Prince was still on the board. The Giants were so sure he'd be gone, they didn't have him come in for a private workout before the draft.

I've seen scouting reports that compare him to Charles Woodson. There's posts that say he's been compared to Revis, but I haven't come across any that have made that comparison. The knocks on Prince are he lacks straight line speed, He ran a 4.43 at the combine and 4.38 on his Pro day. Also he can get burned by double moves. Covering Nicks in practice will give him tons of experience with double moves.

 
Hey, at least the draft started out well. :unsure:
I'm loving all three picks tbh. I doubt Smith returns/is his old self, and we needed a good returner anyway. I hated seeing our O have to start an extra 20 yards behind where half of the other teams in the league would start if in the same situation because we couldn't return for ####. Austin's a beast, lovin' that pick as well. Cofield will probably end up elsewhere when we refuse to pay him what he wants and Bernard doesn't have too much longer. Canty-Austin/Joseph starting rotation.We went BPA and picked up some needs as well. LB would have been a reach pretty much no matter who we went for (Can still possibly go Sturdivant for those still worrying about our LB corp, which our FO doesn't seem to be) and the OL that we might have considered in the second went a few picks before ours in Ija and Wiz. Austin would have been a top 25 pick if he played last year.
 
Thoughts on the draft overall?

Would have liked to see them address LB or OL a bit more but glad they didn't reach when there were better players on the board, although the late round LB has potential. In general I think it was a very solid draft.

 
The big knock on Amukamara (that I was parroting from KC Joyner earlier) was that he got torched by Justin Blackmon, the star receiver at Oklahoma State, when they played each other last year. After all, NFL receivers are gonna be more like Blackmon than like the average college receiver. But on the other side of ESPN, the scouts guys make an interesting point about that performance:

"Biggest matchup problem was versus Justin Blackmon (Oklahoma State) in 2010 but Amukamara did not play as poorly as many seem to think. Blackmon pushed off on a 36-yard catch in 2nd QTR. Amukamara runs step-for-step with Blackmon on a debatable 2nd QTR pass interference penalty.And while Amukamara does get beaten for an 80-yard TD on a 2nd QTR flea-flicker, he shows recovery speed to get back into the play. From that point on, Blackmon was targeted three times versus Amukamara and caught one pass for three yards."

He held Ryan Broyles to 3-61-0

Broyles had 1622 receiving yards and 14 td’s last season.

When they played Washington Jake Locker went 4-20 with 2 ints

Jeff Fuller had a 1066 yd 12 td season. against Nebraska he had 1 catch for 36 yards

http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/4/29/2141398/amukamara-better-against-blackmon-than-it-appears

 
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Over all pretty happy with what the Giants did in the draft

The were able to get great value with the 1st two picks

Prince gives them plenty of options on the back end of the defense

Austin while he has some issues is a talented cat. I have to assume that this pick means that either Cofield or Bernard will be gone

I hope it's Bernard but I doubt they will be able to afford Cofield

The Giants special teams were bad last year Jernigan should help right away on the returns

Brewer is a project at T

Sash looks like an in the box type of S.

Jones was productive at MSU so I guess he will have a chance to compete

I don't know anything about Williams

Scott is fast and might be a good return man...not really sure

It would have been nice to see them pick up some interior line help but I guess they are comfortable with what they have or have some free agent targets

 
Did the Giants not have a 5th round pick or did they trade it?

If they traded it what did get for it

 
I really think special teams were a HUGE detriment to this teams success in 2010. They never had a short field and Ware ended up 34th in YPA on returns(only 20 attempts).

Not sure where/when to take the shot, but I would really enjoy bringing a game changer to the return game. Someone who could give you a short field(or 6 points) in the blink of an eye.

No guarantees how Hixon comes back either. Jerrel Jernigan from Troy is the type of guy I would love to bring in.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dspro...1&genpos=WR
Loving this pick!This guy is going to be able to help Manning have a short field and win the field position battle. If he can excel in just the return game alone, he is going to positively impact the offense and defense. He is excellent in space, and teams these days are starting to find creative ways to utilize players with moves and speed such as JJ.

 
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Really love what they did in the draft.

I hear people saying we dont need another cornerback but when you have the Eagles and Cowboys in your division the more CB the better. If this guy can get in D-Jax's way once in a while that more than justifies the pick.

Austin will make our DE's better if he lives up to potential (what ever happened to that DT we got last year anyway???)

The 3rd round kid sounds really explosive and we havent had a good kick returner in quite a while.

Jones is a great value, though he seems very small for the position, but so was zach thomas so I guess it CAN work (not that this guy is zach thomas or anything).

Seems like Jerry did a good job, but I guess we will find out in 3-4 years

 
Linval Joseph is the DT the Giants took in the 2nd last year

He was only active for 6 games. I think the Giants typically use 3 DT's on game day and he couldn't beat out Bernard, Canty or Cofield.

 
http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/the-draft/2011-nfl-draft-review-and-rookie-free-agent-signings/#Analysis

Eric’s Take on the 2011 Draft

Rating or judging a draft right after its completion instead of 3-4 years down the road is bit of a silly exercise. But we fans like to read reviews and analyze how our team did based on our own impressions or impressions on those “experts” who write the draft guides. So with that caveat, let’s take a very early look at what the Giants did and didn’t do in the 2011 NFL Draft.

Heading into the draft, as stated in my Draft Needs article, I saw the Giants top needs as offensive line, defensive line, defensive backs (both corner and safety), linebacker, and tight end. Unlike many who focused on the offensive line and linebacker positions, I saw the need to upgrade talent, depth, and competition on the defensive line and secondary. And these needs were not so much based on the 2011 NFL season but 2012 and beyond. You might reply, “Holy hell Eric, you’re saying the Giants had needs almost everywhere on the roster!” Welcome to the NFL. Every team has needs all over their roster whether fans recognize it or not. And as I’ve said over and over again for years, the draft is not so much about the upcoming season as it is for seasons beyond.

Heading into the first round, what I heard (whether it was smoke or not) was that the Giants were very high on OT Nate Solder and HB Mark Ingram. OC Mike Pouncey and WR Jonathan Baldwin were also supposed considerations. Both Pouncey and Solder were picked before the Giants selected at #19. Who was not supposed to be there was CB Prince Amukamara and when he dropped to #19, the Giants jumped all over him.

It is highly doubtful that Amukamara is the “shutdown” corner that some claim him to be. The reason being there are only a handful of “shutdown” corners in the entire history of pro football. But Amukamara was one of the very best players available in this draft and may develop into the best defensive back on the Giants. For those who say the Giants went for just “value” and not “need,” keep in mind that Aaron Ross is unlikely to re-sign with the Giants next offseason and that Terrell Thomas will also be an unrestricted free agent. NFL teams MUST have three quality corners. The third corner in today’s NFL is a de facto starter. Ideally, teams want to have four really good corners in case someone gets hurt. The Giants are now four deep at cornerback with four high draft picks. Getting Amukamara at #19 was a huge gift.

Those who have long read this site know I love drafting defensive tackles. I consider them the heart of the 4-3 defense and one of the most difficult positions to find quality players. In addition, Barry Cofield has been really unhappy with his contract situation for two offseasons. Right or wrong, it appears the Giants are unwilling to pay him top dollar (I personally think he is a nice player but nothing special). Based on pre-draft chatter and what the Giants did in the second round, it is pretty obvious that the Giants wanted to come out of this draft with a defensive tackle. DT Stephen Paea was a prospect often tied with the Giants. However, it appears that the Giants did not expect DT Marvin Austin to last as long as he did either. In fact, contrary to their usual norm, Giants’ team officials were basically beating their chests after the draft saying that they considered Austin a top-15 talent. Austin has a bigger upside than Paea (who was picked right after Austin) because of his athletic ability. It’s also interesting to note that Jerry Reese compared his on-field temperament to Keith Hamilton. If Austin plays with the same type of enforcer mentality and skill that the Hammer brought to the Giants’ defense, then this was a very good pick. Austin does project better to the 3-technique or penetrator DT position. Despite not playing his senior season (video), he gave interior offensive linemen fits at the East-West Shrine Game practices. If he develops as expected, the Giants should have a very good defensive tackle rotation of Chris Canty, Linval Joseph, and Austin. I’ve seen some ridiculous comments along the lines of picking Austin means the Giants don’t like Joseph. Bullcrap. 4-3 teams need three good defensive tackles. All three will play as long as Joseph and Austin beat out Rocky Bernard.

If the Giants were going to draft a wide receiver, it was likely going to be one that could make an impact in the return game like Jerrel Jernigan. I’ve seen comments that the Giants drafted another Sinorice Moss because Jernigan is 5-9. Saying that a player will be the same as another solely due to similar height may be one of the dumbest things I’ve read on BBI, which is saying a lot. Based on post-draft comments from Giants’ officials, it’s clear the Giants don’t see Jernigan as only a returner. They expect him to make an impact in the receiving game at some point in his career. Some draft guides consider Jernigan the best slot receiver in the entire draft. One anonymous pro scout said before the draft that if Jernigan was on the Patriots, he’d catch 100 passes a season. Jernigan supposedly has great hands, is very quick in and out of his cuts, and the Giants are contending that he is much faster than given credit for (video). Everyone seems to think he has a great locker room personality. The big question with this selection is not one of talent, but one of playing time. Wide receiver was not a huge need. If Steve Smith returns, the Giants are loaded at wide receiver with Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Domenik Hixon, Ramses Barden, Victor Cruz, and Devin Thomas. That said, the pick of Jernigan does protect the Giants if health is an issue (Smith, Hixon, Barden) or against future free agent defections (Smith, Manningham, Hixon). Jernigan is a different type of receiver – he’s one of those super-quick waterbugs who can cause match-up problems. Can they find a way to get him on the field? From a value perspective, Jernigan was drafted right around where he was expected to go (late 2nd-early 3rd rounds).

So as the Giants enter the fourth round, Giants’ fans are thinking, “When the hell are we going to do something about the offensive line?” In the 4th round, the Giants selected RT/LT James Brewer, a very big and athletic tackle who will take a couple of years to develop. After the draft, I saw comments on BBI that said the selection of Brewer must mean the Giants are down on Will Beatty. No. Kareem McKenzie is entering the last year of his contract. Shawn Andrews is a huge question mark. The Giants may want to move David Diehl inside. Regardless, teams need at least three quality tackles. Why take a project? Because once you get past the second round of the NFL Draft, all potential left tackle prospects either have athletic limitations or are developmental projects. If they didn’t fall into these categories, they would have gone higher. To me, Brewer is probably the most boom-or-bust pick in the draft for the Giants. He has talent. In fact, some ranked him as high as a second round-type prospect. Others did not like him as much. It’s a crapshoot when you’re talking developmental projects at tackle. The good news is that Brewer has the size (it sounds like the Giants expect him to play in the 335 pound range), long arms, and feet for the position.

The Giants had no 5th round pick because of the trade for Sage Rosenfels and Darius Reynaud. While Reynaud is going to have a very hard time making this team, if anything happens to Eli in 2011, we’ll be glad the Giants have Rosenfels.

In the 6th round, the Giants got a lot of value with two of their three picks and a very intriguing sleeper with their other sixth-round pick. LB Greg Jones and S Tyler Sash are not ideal athletes, but both were super-productive players and team leaders for major Big 10 schools. Indeed, many had projected Jones and Sash to go in the 3rd-4th round range. Athletically, neither are stiffs – they do have ability. And what I really like is that both were looked upon by their teammates as the studs of their respective defenses. The Giants also took LB Jacquian Williams in the sixth round. He’s an unknown, super-athletic linebacker who can run and cover. He’s now up to 231-235 pounds and can run like a deer. Is he a good football player (video)? We’ll see, but he seems to have been a very respected member of South Florida’s defense. Jones, Sash, and Williams should all contribute immediately on special teams.

I don’t think the Giants’ linebacker position is as bad off as some think. The key is for the young guys to accept the challenge and step up to the plate and deliver. Jon Goff had a decent first season as a starter. Michael Boley needs to make more plays, but he can run and cover (his coverage skills dramatically cut down the number of plays opposing tight ends made on the Giants). Phillip Dillard and Adrian Tracy have talent and will now be in their second year. The big question mark is Clint Sintim. But throw in Jones and Williams and the Giants have a lot of young linebackers with potential.

At safety, the Giants would be in super, super shape if Chad Jones had not suffered what is likely a career-ending accident last year. Much depends on if Kenny Phillips can regain more of his pre-injury form. But Sash helps the depth situation certainly at strong safety (video).

One of the guys who intrigues me the most in this draft is the last pick, 7th rounder Da’Rel Scott. Athletically, this guy is the complete package. He’s got good size, he has good moves, he can catch, and most of all, he has legit sub-4.4 speed. In watching the 2008 highlights of him, I was even more excited than after watching Ahmad Bradshaw’s highlights after the 2007 NFL Draft. They key thing for him will be pass protection. Rookie running backs will not play – especially on pass downs – if they cannot pass block. And Scott’s pass blocking is supposedly sub-par.

What the Giants Did: If you believe the draft experts, the Giants got value, value, value up and down the line. The only pick “out of left field” was Jacquian Williams and he appears worthy of the risk of a 6th round selection. The Giants really solidified the cornerback and defensive tackle positions, not just for 2011 but in future seasons. The kind of talent and depth the Giants now have at both positions is the kind that most teams can only dream about. They added a dangerous return man who also should create serious match-up problems at wide receiver if they can find a way to get him on the field. (At the very least they protected themselves if Steve Smith is damaged goods). They added more competition at offensive tackle, which was needed. And they addressed talent/depth issues at linebacker, safety, and running back with players who were supposed to be chosen far before they were picked by the Giants.

What the Giants Didn’t Do: In looking at the roster, my biggest concerns remain at tight end, interior offensive line, and fullback. There is absolutely no depth at all behind Kevin Boss. If he goes down, the Giants are in big trouble. Travis Beckum, even if he develops, is more of an H-Back. The Giants can’t really run a two-TE offense without using an extra offensive lineman (similar to 2010). Inside on the offensive line, injuries and/or age (Shaun O’Hara, Rich Seubert, Adam Koets) are a big concern. Mitch Petrus may have a bright future at guard or center and Diehl can play guard, but it would have been ideal to add a quality center/guard type. The problem is that guys like Pouncey and Stefen Wisniewski went before the Giants picked in rounds one and two, respectively. At fullback, Madison Hedgecock hasn’t had a productive, healthy season since 2008. Bear Pascoe played the position in 2010 but he doesn’t appear to be the long-term answer.

I feel strongly that those who contend the draft was not a good one because the Giants ignored these positions are not correct. You can only do so much in one draft. There are a finite number of picks and a finite number of players. Every team is not strong at every position, even the top teams. That’s just the way it is. If the Giants had drafted a center instead of a corner and a tight end instead of a defensive tackle, then fans would be complaining the Giants didn’t address the corner and defensive tackle positions.

Hopefully, the Giants can still add a veteran or two in free agency (if and when it is held), add one or two quality rookie free agents, and hope some young, unheralded player on the roster surprises like Jim Cordle or Jake Ballard.

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It'll be interesting to see how Jernigan and LB Mason Foster's careers turn out.

 
Was all happy hearing Eli is holding practices even though only about 10 people are showing up. Then I see on NFL live Romo has had 40 & 41 players show at his practices.

 

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