delusional
Footballguy
I can't stop laughing. Honestly, give me this one at least.
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm done trying, I really am. They had to lock him up as the DC with all the interviews he had lined up for that position...But hey, we probably saved a couple bucksI'm TRYING to see the upside of this. I really am.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What's so funny? This guy was a DC before......in highschool in like '89....
TCFF
Footballguy
When you hire a guy whose last defensive coaching experience was in 1989 for a high school football team to be your Defensive Coordinator in a make or break year for you as a coach you either A: know something the public doesn't, B: Are arrogant enough to believe you can get by with a good person as Defensive Coordinator even if he isn't qualified for the job, or C: You are just plain stupid. I'm not sure which it is, but if it doesn't work Andy should be done at the end of the season.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
If this was the guy you wanted why was he not hired weeks ago?!?! You mean to tell me there was NO ONE that you could find but a damn OL coach?!?
Insein
Footballguy
Wow. My friend texted me this and I thought it was a joke. At least Mcdermott has been a Defensive coach in the last 10 years. How the hell do you go to an OL coach? I was pretty much content with getting one of the position coaches from the Pack or Steelers. This is the end for andy. Its all or nothing now. If the D fails, Andy is fired.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Castillo is a very good OL coach and has been rumored for many OC positions. A lot of their problems this year on OL came from injuries and Winston Justice, neither of which you necessarily blame Castillo for.The lunacy is purely in the change in sides. Wouldn't seem half as bad if Morhinweg got a HC position and the moved Castillo to OC. The fact that they made Castillo the DC seems like some sort of weird charity. You have to question if Castillo even wants the job - does he see it as a short term path to getting a HC position or did he want to become a DC?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Because its not the guy they wanted all along. I just can't make sense of it. Its yet another coach hired from within (didn't they just fire a bunch of those??).
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
He actually did a very good job at his position for years. The problem this year was injuries, not coaching.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I wonder who the last OL coach was who got a promotion to DC? Any names come to mind?
dhockster
Footballguy
All right, I'm perplexed by this move. But I will take the glass is half full approach.
Andy Reid has a pretty good record in his hiring of assistant coaches. Obviously Jim Johnson was a great hire, and helped the Eagles be contenders for the last decade. Marty Morningweig, for his abysmal record as a head coach, has been a decent assistant offensive coach, although it is hard to know how much of the offensive decisions are his. Castillo has been, by all accounts, a pretty good offensive line coach. Steve Spagnuolo, John Harbaugh, and Brad Childress all went on to get head coaching positions. Two of those have had good success, and the third appears to be on his way with the Rams. Reid has gone and gotten Bobby April last year and Mudd this year, and those are two coaches with stellar reputations.
So Reid has hired good coaches. He must be pretty good at evaluating what they can do. I am hoping this is the case with his new DC.
Look, this is probably the most important hire of Reid's career. I don't think he entered into this decision lightly. The fact is if this works, and the Eagles and the defense are successful, this will be a Belichick type move and Reid will receive a lot of praise. If it fails, Reid will probably be out of a job.
I am hoping he made the right decision. The alternative is to be depressed until the season starts.
Andy Reid has a pretty good record in his hiring of assistant coaches. Obviously Jim Johnson was a great hire, and helped the Eagles be contenders for the last decade. Marty Morningweig, for his abysmal record as a head coach, has been a decent assistant offensive coach, although it is hard to know how much of the offensive decisions are his. Castillo has been, by all accounts, a pretty good offensive line coach. Steve Spagnuolo, John Harbaugh, and Brad Childress all went on to get head coaching positions. Two of those have had good success, and the third appears to be on his way with the Rams. Reid has gone and gotten Bobby April last year and Mudd this year, and those are two coaches with stellar reputations.
So Reid has hired good coaches. He must be pretty good at evaluating what they can do. I am hoping this is the case with his new DC.
Look, this is probably the most important hire of Reid's career. I don't think he entered into this decision lightly. The fact is if this works, and the Eagles and the defense are successful, this will be a Belichick type move and Reid will receive a lot of praise. If it fails, Reid will probably be out of a job.
I am hoping he made the right decision. The alternative is to be depressed until the season starts.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Wow, I'm not a huge fan of **** Jauron, especially being a Bills fan and all, but the guy seems to be a pretty decent defensive coach. When they let him go after firing McDermott, I thought for sure they must have some other high caliber candidate lined up. This move just seems baffling.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Not a ### ####ed one...
Belicheck was a TE/WR coach before switching over to D.Shrug.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Well apparently he's no Juan Castillo.In all fairness to Castillo he may turn out to be a great choice. My problem with it is if the Eagles are supposedly on the verge of a championship, I was hoping for someone with a little bit better defensive pedigree.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Just why not interview anyone after the SB, it's 5 freaking days away!
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Partially correct. He was TE/WR for Detroit for one year in '77. But then spent 5 years on the D side (mainly as a LB coach) before being promoted to DC.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Not from what this says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick
It looks like he a very deep defensive background.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Needless to say, the Eagles' stunning announcement that they promoted offensive line coach Juan Castillo to be their next defensive coordinator has floored fans.
But some of the Eagles players themselves are downright shocked.
Told of the move, cornerback Asante Samuel said, "The offensive line coach?" After he took a moment to collect himself, Samuel said, "It's all good, it's all good."
Eagles center Mike McGlynn also didn't know about the move when The Inquirer contacted him.
"Really? That's crazy," McGlynn said. "That's amazing."
McGlynn credited Castillo for a lot of his improvement over the last three seasons. He said he was "disappointed" by the move and that he would "miss" Castillo, but the center said that he looked forward to going up against his former position coach's defense in training camp.
"We're going to have to kick his [butt] now," McGlynn said.
Eagles linebacker Omar Gaither had already knew of the move, but he was still in a state of shock.
"I think everybody is shocked," Gaither said. "I didn't know Juan knew defense."
Gaither did later realized that Castillo did coach some defense as the high school and college level in the 1980s. He also mentioned that Castillo once played linebacker in the USFL.
"That's something he always reminds us of," Gaither said.
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But some of the Eagles players themselves are downright shocked.
Told of the move, cornerback Asante Samuel said, "The offensive line coach?" After he took a moment to collect himself, Samuel said, "It's all good, it's all good."
Eagles center Mike McGlynn also didn't know about the move when The Inquirer contacted him.
"Really? That's crazy," McGlynn said. "That's amazing."
McGlynn credited Castillo for a lot of his improvement over the last three seasons. He said he was "disappointed" by the move and that he would "miss" Castillo, but the center said that he looked forward to going up against his former position coach's defense in training camp.
"We're going to have to kick his [butt] now," McGlynn said.
Eagles linebacker Omar Gaither had already knew of the move, but he was still in a state of shock.
"I think everybody is shocked," Gaither said. "I didn't know Juan knew defense."
Gaither did later realized that Castillo did coach some defense as the high school and college level in the 1980s. He also mentioned that Castillo once played linebacker in the USFL.
"That's something he always reminds us of," Gaither said.
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delusional
Footballguy
Ok...i know what happened. This was posted on the sports dome & people thought it was sports center...
Ash
Footballguy
I've never been convinced by Castillo as an OL coach. The line was good when we had two great OTs but we always seem to be searching for G/Cs and only occasionally does someone (like Heremanns) develop well above expectations. I don't count guys like Fraley or Miller who were adequate but not standouts. For every Heremanns there seems to be three who disappoint, like Bobbie Williams (who has gone on to be productive elsewhere) Jean-Gilles (was highly rated coming out) and Justice.I think most of his solid reputation comes from longevity in the position. People assume he's been there so long, he must be good.
As for promoting him to DC, I just truly don't know what to say.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Mike Nolan was the Ravens WR coach before becoming their DC.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
And he was another one that had YEARS of defensive coaching experience including multiple stints as a NFL DC before being a WR coach.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Who's arguing that? You just asked for an OL coach that got promoted to DC, which I don't know of any, but Nolan is probably the closest modern comparison. You can't possibly have forgotten already (just a few posts ago) that we're on the same page here, right? It's a baffling move.Fire the Fat Man
Footballguy
I thought it was April 1st when I got the email at work.
If Castillo was your man (we all know he wasn't) then you announce him as DC when you fire McDermott.
This is just an absolute disgrace.
I am lost for words.
I am done with this team until the fat man is finally fired. It is pointless investing time into this team when the front office and coaching staff is just a circus.
If Castillo was your man (we all know he wasn't) then you announce him as DC when you fire McDermott.
This is just an absolute disgrace.
I am lost for words.
I am done with this team until the fat man is finally fired. It is pointless investing time into this team when the front office and coaching staff is just a circus.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Actually it was me who asked and it seems there is no modern example of an OL coach getting promoted to DC. There have been DC's with offensive experience, but no OL coach-to-DC that we've been able to come up with. In fact, I wonder if there are any modern examples of a DC who got the job straight from the "O" side (any coach), with no NFL defensive experience.A switch to LB coach, DL coach...any defensive position coach would have been understandable. But right to top D guy is puzzling to say the least.Who's arguing that? You just asked for an OL coach that got promoted to DC, which I don't know of any, but Nolan is probably the closest modern comparison. You can't possibly have forgotten already (just a few posts ago) that we're on the same page here, right? It's a baffling move.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
What the ####?! Seriously. What's going on?
babydemon90
Footballguy
my only (hopeful?) thought is that this is some kind of interim measure for Jim Washburn to take over the DC role next year....
babydemon90
Footballguy
i guess he's done a great job at getting pressure on our QB's, so he must know something about it...
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Yes, we're on the same page. Sorry for the confusion. My comment was more or less echoing just how silly our move was.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I listened to the press conference and1) It's pretty clear Washburn is going to have a huge say in the defense. The whole defense is going to revolve around what Washburn does with the DL.2) It's pretty clear Castillo doesn't know WTF he's going to do.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I think at this point its pretty evident that Reid didn't want to bring in anyone that couldn't threaten his job or be left high and dry if/ when Andy gets the axe after next season.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
delusional
Footballguy
Probably the lawyer in the front office who is running the draft...i mean howie roseman the gm
redBourne
Footballguy
I don't agree with this at all. Reid doesn't think that there aren't a slew of other candidates to take over his position should he get canned? How many HC positions were filled this year alone by people outside of the organization? I don't think this was a move to save his job should he fail to be successful next year. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I don't think he's on the hot-seat at all this coming year. His career winning percentage is above 60%, he's 10-9 in the post season, which matches or betters coaches like Ditka, Dungy, Marriuchi and Martz. True, none of these coaches are active HCs, but 10 playoff wins puts him 13th all time and 2nd among active coaches. They guy is doing something right.
dhockster
Footballguy
Just to play devil's advocate, perhaps hiring Castillo as DC was one of several options Reid had, and it was contingent on getting Mudd to sign on as OL coach. That might not have been possible when he let go of McDermott.No one knows right now whether this is a good hire or a bad hire, yet. I remember last year when people were crucifying Reid for trading McNabb in the division. That trade seemed to work out for the Eagles.Come on, guys! Let's stay positive!
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Agreed that most of the times Reid's decisions have come under fire by fans, we're usually the ones who look silly. And HOPEFULLY that's the case here. But a lot of this just doesn't sit well. If Castillo was a potential candidate, awesome. But why didn't the Eagles interview more outside candidates just to be sure? In the business world we never hire someone without making sure we've exhausted the alternatives to reinforce our positive feelings on a person. And obviously Reid is giving Castillo more of a chance on his potential than on what he's done. Now to be fair Andy was a relatively inexperienced NFL QB Coach when he got the Eagles job, and he obviously was more than up for the task. But Castillo wasn't exactly considered a star in the making, and even if this move was to "protect" Castillo from leaving for an OC job somewhere, shouldn't we have then made him the DC weeks ago? At this point there really was no threat of Castillo leaving, except maybe to Cincinnati (who hired Jay Gruden today for the OC role).
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Well the guy has been offensive line coach for 12 years. With all the coaches that have come and gone to promotions, Castillo was never considered to be hired away with any of them? That makes me wonder and now he's our DEFENSIVE co-ordinator? 
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I'm sure he does think there's a slew out there that could take his job. My point is that if he hires a guy like say Dennis Allen and he comes here, turns this D around and succeeds while Andy is just being Andy then what are people going to say? Then there's the flip side.....if he gets Allen and Allen looks like crap what are people going to say? Andy is in a lose/ lose by getting a guy like Allen. Castillo is no threat to the "throne" and if bs suceeds then Andy is genius.....if he fails then well, he was just an OL coach who works hard and needs a little time. Hell, much like we did with Vick a majority of Eagle fans will be the ones making excuses for Juan! I could be wrong and heck, I may be the minority with this way of thinking but why in the HELL do you not wait until after the SB to finish up interviews?!All we heard was talk about how we couldn't possible make a switch to a 3-4 (thus eliminating candidates) because with the current CBA and uncertainty with schedules, practice etc that we just couldn't. Wait, but what you CAN do is hire a guy who has nowhere near the experiance and expect that to transition well even though he faces the same uncertainties. Amazing.
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thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I heard on 97.5 that they did offer Allen and he picked Denver. No reason was given, but my pure speculation is Reid insisted on 4-3.Reid is not afraid of anything. It is not lack of confidence, it is overconfidence - that he can make it work with a great DL coach, a motivator DC, and a ouija board to summon JJ.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Is Allen the DB coach for GB? if so, I thought be couldn't even be talked to until after the SB. If it's not the same guy I'm talking about I apologize.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Allen is the former NOS DB coach who now is Denver DC. Darren Perry is the Packers coach they can't (officially) talk to yet.I think another side story is probably Trgovac turned them down in the past couple weeks because he wants to stay in GB one more year. News shifted pretty abruptly from Trgovac as lead candidate to these 2 DB coaches.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Well let's be honest, it's not a move that gets the juices flowing for Eagles football again. Especially with the defense in the state that it's in. It's not a top 5 defense that has to be maintained, it's a bad defense that needs alot of work, and to bring in the OL coach to make those changes and improvements seems to be a stretch.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
It's a defense that can be cured a lot by signing Nnamdi. (edit: sp)
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Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Perry, that's who it was. I believe he was the one that said he could coach either the 3-4 or 4-3 and that he didn't see much of a difference. He should have at the wry least been interviewed IMO
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I like Washburn but how is he going to help Castillo be a DC when (maybe I'm wrong) was never one before either?
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