***Official 2011 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[thriftyrocker]

Or traded up to draft Earl Thomas (like every Eagles fan in the world was thinking they would in 09)? the too smart for everyone else thing has worn thin. Did we need another hybrid LB/DE that year? Like we needed a freaking hole in the head we did. Did we need a playmaking safety that could bring a presence to the defense? In the worst damned way!

The Eagles definitely needed a DE that year. Offensive lines could just double team Cole because they didn't have to worry about Juqua or anyone else on the line very much. The DL was getting no pressure. For years. They did have Babin the year previous (who is another hybrid LB/DE fwiw), and it was a mistake by the staff to not realize Babin's potential then. But it's revisionist to think they didn't need a DE in that draft. They also did draft Nate Allen that same draft with the McNabb pick who actually did look like a good player before he got hurt (Defensive rookie of the month his first month). Allen had a torn patellar tendon (what Cadillac and Ryan Williams got) so it's more Murphy's Law than him being a bust pick IMO. You'd love to have Earl Thomas but I can't fault them for that strategy because they definitely needed both a DE and a S in that draft. There were 3 decent DE prospects at that pick (JPP, Morgan, Graham) and none at the early 2nd they used on Allen.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Right now, how do we adjust? I would argue (not being a professional) that it has to start with a re-thinking of the "Wide 9." Sure, it's making Cole and Babin look like studs. But honestly, our LBs are about as ill suited to the scheme as imaginable. Is Andy willing to neuter his long-time assistant and friend? He needs to, because absent that I can't see how we fix things. We benched Matthews. We put Nate Allen back into the lineup. It. Did. Not. Matter.

The only types of adjustments they can attempt are the ones they've already been doing for weeks. Shuffle more starters and pray that they're put into the best situations by their coaches. Scrapping the "Wide 9" seems like a good idea but the players will still have to adjust to that scheme. At this point Castillo has to go. Our next 4 games at @ Buffalo and @ Washington then coming out of the Bye we get Dallas and Chicago. If Castillo is still here for all four of those games it won't matter what scheme we're running and we'll be lucky to get 2 wins...and losing Cole for 2 weeks will not help.

 

[Insein]

Or traded up to draft Earl Thomas (like every Eagles fan in the world was thinking they would in 09)? the too smart for everyone else thing has worn thin. Did we need another hybrid LB/DE that year? Like we needed a freaking hole in the head we did. Did we need a playmaking safety that could bring a presence to the defense? In the worst damned way!

The Eagles definitely needed a DE that year. Offensive lines could just double team Cole because they didn't have to worry about Juqua or anyone else on the line very much. The DL was getting no pressure. For years. They did have Babin the year previous (who is another hybrid LB/DE fwiw), and it was a mistake by the staff to not realize Babin's potential then. But it's revisionist to think they didn't need a DE in that draft. They also did draft Nate Allen that same draft with the McNabb pick who actually did look like a good player before he got hurt (Defensive rookie of the month his first month). Allen had a torn patellar tendon (what Cadillac and Ryan Williams got) so it's more Murphy's Law than him being a bust pick IMO. You'd love to have Earl Thomas but I can't fault them for that strategy because they definitely needed both a DE and a S in that draft. There were 3 decent DE prospects at that pick (JPP, Morgan, Graham) and none at the early 2nd they used on Allen.

With the history of Eagles drafting DL's in the first round, I figured that they had finally realized the mistake of going after overhyped talent. When they traded up, I was 100% certain it was to get Earl Thomas, a dynamic player at a position of need. He fit because he was just as agood of a run stopper as pass defender. He was also a guy who could lead the defense with those intangibles in the years to come. Instead they got cute. They went for a physical freak in graham and then got a decent safety in the 2nd round. So when their 1st round pick ends up with a season ending injury (couldn't have helped that they were playing him at DEFENSIVE TACKLE!!!) now what impact do we have? Yea they both got hurt but safety was a dire need that year while DE was a luxury.

 

[Billy Bats]

Something else that seems troubling...2 weeks in a row now I've heard players say after the game "they just wanted it more". Last week it might have been DRC and yesterday I think it was DJax. How can the other team want it more?? On our field? I'm seeing quotes this morning where players are saying they aren't playing for 60 minutes or letting up with the lead. Inexcusable. And that's coaching as well as the players. Maybe its already happening but at what point do the defensive players realize they know more about defenses then the DC and tune him out?Cris Carter said this morning, in reference to the Eagles, "you can't sign leadership in free agency".

How's this sound?....

PHILADELPHIA -- Cullen Jenkins could not believe what he was seeing or hearing. It was halftime in the Philadelphia Eagles' locker room Sunday, and while they were up 20-3 on a dead-looking San Francisco 49ers team, to Jenkins' eyes and ears it appeared as though the game already had been won. "I think it was a little bit too happy in here," said Jenkins, who won a Super Bowl with the Packers last season before signing with the Eagles in the offseason. "Just because you've got a lead in the game doesn't mean you've played a good game."

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/31180/eagles-dream-team-may-not-wake-up

 

[Amused to Death]

Not sure what to say fellas.

I've been defending Andy for a looooooooooooong time. And while I still think there's less than 10% chance the next guy is as good as the current guy, I'm also exhausted trying to defend Big Red, too.

If we take a step back and consider why this season is unraveling, even the most ardent Reid supporters (myself included) can't lay blame:

1) Juan Castillo -- Castillo is outmatched. Not only are we playing horrible defense, but we're giving up big leads in the 2nd half, at home, to (arguably) inferior teams (talent wise). Even if you want to argue he needs time to grow into the role, that's no excuse. The Eagles brass made it clear they were going all in this year, which is exactly NOT the time to experiment with a major coaching change. Decision to name Castillo defensive coordinator? = ANDY REID

2) Horrendous Linebacking & Safety Play -- We really don't need to go through the issues, they're staring us in the face each and every week. But the fact remains our LBs may be the worst in the league and are CERTAINLY the worst I've seen in my years going to games as a season ticket holder. For a team that had this "master plan" in free agency, there's no way we can/should buy into the idea that they simply had no alternatives. Given how much we did in free agency and with new contracts, we OBVIOUSLY could have entertained LB as a key position, but CHOSE not to. While I realize Banner and Roseman have more power than they used to, Andy still has final say on all personnel decisions and gets the check to prove it. Decision to rely on our current LB and S crop? = ANDY REID

3) Poor Offensive Line Play -- I listened to an interesting debate on the drive down to the Linc yesterday where one of the talking heads was trying to say our offensive line was GOOD and people were wrong to criticize. His logic? That SURE Mike Vick had been hit 57 times in three games, but we were 2nd in the league in rushing. Needless to say we're 2nd in the league in rushing in no small part because our QB runs like a gazelle, many times for his life. Shady McCoy has been AWESOME, but being a good offensive line is about doing both run and pass blocking. You can't get an "F" in pass blocking and have a "B" in run blocking offset that. It's still an "F." Now we ALL were enthusiastic about bringing Howard Mudd aboard, but maybe we overvalued his contribution. Maybe we forgot just how much Peyton's masterful quarterbacking and quick release were responsible for the Mudd lines looking good. Decision to hire Howard Mudd and give him carte blanche to rebuild the line in his image? = ANDY REID

Look, my son is 8 years old and his coaches break down film every week making sure the kids know to attack the upcoming opponents weaknesses. At their age, usually those weaknesses are permanent. For example, you can't "adjust" if your offensive line weight 65 pounds on average, or if your receivers don't know how to catch over their shoulder. At 8, you exploit those weaknesses. If a team is able to adjust, THEN you try something else.

In the NFL, it's no different. Well, the only difference is the NFL is supposed to be a league of elite professionals where adjustments are happening ALL THE TIME, in real time, on the fly. It's a chess match where the team that's the most disciplined and versatile can make the better adjustments and end up with the win.

Right now, how do we adjust? I would argue (not being a professional) that it has to start with a re-thinking of the "Wide 9." Sure, it's making Cole and Babin look like studs. But honestly, our LBs are about as ill suited to the scheme as imaginable. Is Andy willing to neuter his long-time assistant and friend? He needs to, because absent that I can't see how we fix things. We benched Matthews. We put Nate Allen back into the lineup. It. Did. Not. Matter.

Thank you Jason for not trying to sugar coat it. You also forgot relying on a rookie kicker in a supposed Super Bowl or bust season.

Andy Reid has done nothing to warrant coach-for-life status. We have a worse record than the 49ers, Lions, Bills, Redskins, Bengals & Browns and not one of those teams have more talent than the Eagles. That falls to coaching. And with the Eagles, that all starts with Reid. 1-6 in our last 7 games.

I know its a different sport, but Terry Francona won 2 WS titles with the Red Sox, and they canned him after 2 disappointing seasons.

 

[CentralPA]

Jason's post says it all. I also have been an Andy Reid contributor but it's getting old and tired. His stubborness and snide attitude in post game conferences reek of arrogance. It's been almost 14 years of the same 'ol BS. Close but not close enough, now it looks like things are regressing, big time. You don't have the talent this team has and start or 1-3 v.s. STL, NYG, San Fran, and Atl. The schedule is only going to get tougher. They need to fire Juan Castillo or demote him but Reid won't. This is all on him. After this season I hope Lurie finally realizes that Reid just isn't going to get it done.

 

[thriftyrocker]

With the history of Eagles drafting DL's in the first round, I figured that they had finally realized the mistake of going after overhyped talent. When they traded up, I was 100% certain it was to get Earl Thomas, a dynamic player at a position of need. He fit because he was just as agood of a run stopper as pass defender. He was also a guy who could lead the defense with those intangibles in the years to come. Instead they got cute. They went for a physical freak in graham and then got a decent safety in the 2nd round. So when their 1st round pick ends up with a season ending injury (couldn't have helped that they were playing him at DEFENSIVE TACKLE!!!) now what impact do we have? Yea they both got hurt but safety was a dire need that year while DE was a luxury.

I agree about Thomas. However, I don't think they got cute; they were sticking to their script. They value DE more than S. They found a high rated DE who fits their system (undersized, solid fundamentals, high motor). They went all-in on the position they valued more highly.Graham wasn't even a "physical freak." JPP is. How would we feel if we had JPP instead of Graham (JPP has 22 tackles and 4.5 sacks so far this year as a backup to Osi)? We'd probably not care about Earl Thomas. But JPP was more of a project and didn't fit the Eagles mold as much.As far as bad picks go, I think drafting a G and project S this year was much worse and much "cuter".

 

[Lehigh98]

Glad to see some of the last Andy Reid supporters finally coming around.

I think just like McNabb, people are starting to need a change becasue its just not working.

How bad do you think it needs to get before they make a change and send Andy packing?

I'm guessing things will pick up just enough in the 2nd half to keep him around another year.

 

[Amused to Death]

Glad to see some of the last Andy Reid supporters finally coming around.

I think just like McNabb, people are starting to need a change becasue its just not working.

How bad do you think it needs to get before they make a change and send Andy packing?

I'm guessing things will pick up just enough in the 2nd half to keep him around another year.

Even if they get things right and end the season 11-5, they have to go deep into the playoffs for the season be considered a success. Division championship and a first round loss is not successful. That's not improving. This team was in the SB in 2004 and frankly they haven't been the same since. We're in year 7 post-SB and they are no closer to getting back to it. That's not acceptable, or shouldn't be.

 

[Polish Hammer]

"The coaches are going to be intact."

"I think Juan's doing some good things."

"It's not one person...doing our jobs a little bit better."

-Andy Reid

I like Missanelli sticking it to him a bit on the Ronnie Brown red zone play.

 

[Amused to Death]

"The coaches are going to be intact." "I think Juan's doing some good things.""It's not one person...doing our jobs a little bit better."-Andy ReidI like Missanelli sticking it to him a bit on the Ronnie Brown red zone play.

Definitely getting chippy. Media really starting to hammer Reid on his decision making.

 

[Insein]

Glad to see some of the last Andy Reid supporters finally coming around.

I think just like McNabb, people are starting to need a change becasue its just not working.

How bad do you think it needs to get before they make a change and send Andy packing?

I'm guessing things will pick up just enough in the 2nd half to keep him around another year.

Even if they get things right and end the season 11-5, they have to go deep into the playoffs for the season be considered a success. Division championship and a first round loss is not successful. That's not improving. This team was in the SB in 2004 and frankly they haven't been the same since. We're in year 7 post-SB and they are no closer to getting back to it. That's not acceptable, or shouldn't be.

We all know if they get to 11-5 and make the playoffs, Andy is safe. Lurie wants a winning team. He doesn't necessarily need to win it all though as long as it looks like they are trying.

 

[Amused to Death]

Glad to see some of the last Andy Reid supporters finally coming around.

I think just like McNabb, people are starting to need a change becasue its just not working.

How bad do you think it needs to get before they make a change and send Andy packing?

I'm guessing things will pick up just enough in the 2nd half to keep him around another year.

Even if they get things right and end the season 11-5, they have to go deep into the playoffs for the season be considered a success. Division championship and a first round loss is not successful. That's not improving. This team was in the SB in 2004 and frankly they haven't been the same since. We're in year 7 post-SB and they are no closer to getting back to it. That's not acceptable, or shouldn't be.

We all know if they get to 11-5 and make the playoffs, Andy is safe. Lurie wants a winning team. He doesn't necessarily need to win it all though as long as it looks like they are trying.

Sadly, you're right. At least that what history tells us.

 

[Amused to Death]

Some injury news...

Eagles coach Andy Reid today said that Pro Bowl DE Trent Cole could miss as much as a month, according to reports, with a "significant" strained right calf suffered late in Sunday's loss to the Niners.

Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters' strained left hamstring, suffered on the last offensive play Sunday, could cost Peters "significant" time, too.

Reid said in both cases, "the next couple of days will be very important." He said both players are "very sore today."

Asked about the importance of losing two Pro Bowl players, one on each side of the ball, Reid said, “I expect other guys to step up and play. If somebody goes down, the next guy steps in and let’s go.”

King Dunlap “probably” would play left tackle in place of Peters.

Also, DT Antonio Dixon tore his left triceps and is out for the season. That makes a total of four defensive linemen (Juqua Parker, ankle; Darryl Tapp, pectoral strain) with injury issues.

Reid said Tapp has made "quite a little bit of progress" and should be out on the field for practice Wednesday. He said Tapp is "very close" to returning.

Parker also is "getting better." Reid said it was unknown yet whether Parker would be able to return to practice.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/blogs/Report-Cole-out-for-about-3-weeks.html

 

[Snotbubbles]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

 

[Insein]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They obviously made better adjustments than a 13 year veteran head coach and his crack coaching staff.

 

[Amused to Death]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They're 3-1 and in first place. Your point?Did the defense fail to score at the goal line?Did the defense miss 2 FGs?This team has more holes than just the defense. And we're "all in" this year.

 

[Crusaderfan]

"The coaches are going to be intact." "I think Juan's doing some good things.""It's not one person...doing our jobs a little bit better."-Andy ReidI like Missanelli sticking it to him a bit on the Ronnie Brown red zone play.

Definitely getting chippy. Media really starting to hammer Reid on his decision making.

How unfair. He has always been so decent to all of them.

 

[DCThunder]

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills.

Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

 

[Amused to Death]

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills. Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

I don't think anyone here is remotely suggesting that's what will happen. I used 11-5 as an extreme that even if they did that and lost in the first round of playoffs, its unacceptable.

 

[CentralPA]

Some injury news...Eagles coach Andy Reid today said that Pro Bowl DE Trent Cole could miss as much as a month, according to reports, with a "significant" strained right calf suffered late in Sunday's loss to the Niners.Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters' strained left hamstring, suffered on the last offensive play Sunday, could cost Peters "significant" time, too.Reid said in both cases, "the next couple of days will be very important." He said both players are "very sore today."Asked about the importance of losing two Pro Bowl players, one on each side of the ball, Reid said, “I expect other guys to step up and play. If somebody goes down, the next guy steps in and let’s go.”King Dunlap “probably” would play left tackle in place of Peters.Also, DT Antonio Dixon tore his left triceps and is out for the season. That makes a total of four defensive linemen (Juqua Parker, ankle; Darryl Tapp, pectoral strain) with injury issues.Reid said Tapp has made "quite a little bit of progress" and should be out on the field for practice Wednesday. He said Tapp is "very close" to returning.Parker also is "getting better." Reid said it was unknown yet whether Parker would be able to return to practice.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/blogs/Report-Cole-out-for-about-3-weeks.html

Wow, we'll get to see some real magic out of the defense now that Cole is gone for a while.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They're 3-1 and in first place. Your point?Did the defense fail to score at the goal line?Did the defense miss 2 FGs?This team has more holes than just the defense. And we're "all in" this year.

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

 

[Amused to Death]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They're 3-1 and in first place. Your point?Did the defense fail to score at the goal line?Did the defense miss 2 FGs?This team has more holes than just the defense. And we're "all in" this year.

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

You're a more optimistic man than I. Hope you're right.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.

Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.

Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.

Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.

The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

And the bolded is an exact reflection of the coaching and an excuse Cowboy fans have been making for years. When other teams have the same coaching changes and off-season length we do there is no excuse. Even though none of these teams did something as silly as making an OL coach the DC in a shortened off-season...

And while coaching didn't miss the FG or make the RB throw the ball or make the WR fumble it put all of those guys in the situations for that to happen.

Regardless, I'd take being 3-1 over 1-3.

 

[netnalp]

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.

The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

Sounds almost like the platitudes of Cowboys fans the past several years, just need to pepper the post with comments about all the "talent" the team has.

 

[thriftyrocker]

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.

I think you can question coaching/GMing strategies on all 3.1) The coach decided to cut ties with Akers for a rookie. The coach called all the plays that made us 2 out of 7 in the red zone.2) The coach designed an option pass on 3rd and goal at the 1. The coach decided to go with undersized OL who can't get any push in short yardage. The coach decided not to use his best offensive weapons in goalline (repeatedly).3) Maclin got stripped earlier in the game. It's a coaches responsible to hammer on the guy so he doesn't make the same mistake again.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I did a terrible job today. I need to do a better job of putting our guys in a position to succeed. We need to do a better job all around. It all starts with me. Etc, etc.

I would LOVE to hear somebody put a compilation together of every time Reid has said "I did a terrible job," "It all starts with me," etc. It would be pretty funny to hear the dozens and dozens of times he's said that. And then it should be played for Joe Banner and Lurie so somebody can ask them when they'll listen to their coach and believe him when he says that the problem is HIM?

On the plus side, the Eagles are playing the Bills and with the way speedy WRs are abusing the Bills right now, I expect DeSean Jackson to have 200+ receiving yards and 3+ TDs. Also, since the NFL hates the Bills, Vick will get several of those penalties he's been beggin for along with several thrown in for markups for the early part ofthe season as an apology from the league.

 

[Amused to Death]

Thought this was really funny, particularly the Dr. Evil/Minnie Me photo...And honestly I have a hard time imagining Eskin being arrogant on San Fran radio.

Eskin, who handles sideline reporting duties for the Eagles radio broadcasts, appeared on KNBR in San Francisco before Sunday’s game between the two teams. Via Deadspin, Eskin guaranteed that the Eagles would win.

And Eskin was willing to put his mountain bike where his mouth is; he said he’d ride a bicycle from Philly to San Fran if the Eagle lose.

“There is no chance the 49ers win — zero,” Eskin said. “This is a stone-cold mortal lock. I’ll take a bike from Philadelphia to San Francisco. Yes. There’s no way the Eagles go 1-3. None. Absolutely none. . . . They can’t lose to the 49ers.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/eskin-guarantees-eagles-win-commits-to-long-bike-ride/

 

[unckeyherb]

Thought this was really funny, particularly the Dr. Evil/Minnie Me photo...And honestly I have a hard time imagining Eskin being arrogant on San Fran radio. Eskin, who handles sideline reporting duties for the Eagles radio broadcasts, appeared on KNBR in San Francisco before Sunday’s game between the two teams. Via Deadspin, Eskin guaranteed that the Eagles would win.And Eskin was willing to put his mountain bike where his mouth is; he said he’d ride a bicycle from Philly to San Fran if the Eagle lose.“There is no chance the 49ers win — zero,” Eskin said. “This is a stone-cold mortal lock. I’ll take a bike from Philadelphia to San Francisco. Yes. There’s no way the Eagles go 1-3. None. Absolutely none. . . . They can’t lose to the 49ers.”http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/eskin-guarantees-eagles-win-commits-to-long-bike-ride/

Eskin is/was second only to Cataldi on my Do Not Listen list for Philly talk radio.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Thought this was really funny, particularly the Dr. Evil/Minnie Me photo...And honestly I have a hard time imagining Eskin being arrogant on San Fran radio. Eskin, who handles sideline reporting duties for the Eagles radio broadcasts, appeared on KNBR in San Francisco before Sunday’s game between the two teams. Via Deadspin, Eskin guaranteed that the Eagles would win.And Eskin was willing to put his mountain bike where his mouth is; he said he’d ride a bicycle from Philly to San Fran if the Eagle lose.“There is no chance the 49ers win — zero,” Eskin said. “This is a stone-cold mortal lock. I’ll take a bike from Philadelphia to San Francisco. Yes. There’s no way the Eagles go 1-3. None. Absolutely none. . . . They can’t lose to the 49ers.”http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/eskin-guarantees-eagles-win-commits-to-long-bike-ride/

I didn't even think Eskin was that dumb to make a comment like that. I wonder what he's going to do. No way in hell he's riding a mountain bike from Philly to SF

 

[GroveDiesel]

Thought this was really funny, particularly the Dr. Evil/Minnie Me photo...And honestly I have a hard time imagining Eskin being arrogant on San Fran radio. Eskin, who handles sideline reporting duties for the Eagles radio broadcasts, appeared on KNBR in San Francisco before Sunday’s game between the two teams. Via Deadspin, Eskin guaranteed that the Eagles would win.And Eskin was willing to put his mountain bike where his mouth is; he said he’d ride a bicycle from Philly to San Fran if the Eagle lose.“There is no chance the 49ers win — zero,” Eskin said. “This is a stone-cold mortal lock. I’ll take a bike from Philadelphia to San Francisco. Yes. There’s no way the Eagles go 1-3. None. Absolutely none. . . . They can’t lose to the 49ers.”http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/eskin-guarantees-eagles-win-commits-to-long-bike-ride/

I didn't even think Eskin was that dumb to make a comment like that. I wonder what he's going to do. No way in hell he's riding a mountain bike from Philly to SF

Like being caught being dead wrong is anything new to him. He'll just bluster, call everyone a bunch of nitwits, and go get another woman killed.

 

[Jason Wood]

Eskin has made more outlandish bets that he failed to pay up on than Reid has had boring press conferences.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.

I think you can question coaching/GMing strategies on all 3.1) The coach decided to cut ties with Akers for a rookie. The coach called all the plays that made us 2 out of 7 in the red zone.2) The coach designed an option pass on 3rd and goal at the 1. The coach decided to go with undersized OL who can't get any push in short yardage. The coach decided not to use his best offensive weapons in goalline (repeatedly).3) Maclin got stripped earlier in the game. It's a coaches responsible to hammer on the guy so he doesn't make the same mistake again.

You're right. The players have no responsibility whatsoever. If they fumble, it's the coaches fault for not telling them to hold onto the ball. If they miss a FG, coaches fault they shanked it. Trying to blindly throw a ball to noone when the are being tackled, coaches fault for not telling them to hold onto the ball and just take the 3 points. If they drop a pass, coaches fault for not instructing them on how to catch. If they miss a block, coaches fault. If they throw an interception, coaches fault. My goodness, if the players just played without these darn coaches getting in the way they'd win every game 100-0.

 

[delusional]

So glad people are starting to see the real problems with this team the past few years. How people can back the coaching in beyond me though. This team is done though. They just lost Dixon for the year, a possibility that Cole may be out for the year...thats 2 guys from the teams best unit ( front 4 ) that are out until at least the bye ( cole ). Then toss in their best OL guy in Peters...and the depth at that spot is horrendous to being with ( King Dunlap and..Justice? )....

Vick will get hurt at some point withing the next 3 weeks. Guy can hardly get decent blocking across the line the way it is. Can't say I didnt see any of this coming. As for the Graham vs Thomas draft flub, Thomas was the right pick. Safety was a NEED, DE was a WANT. I am almost afraid to think about the draft next year and see how they royally screw that one up.

I love how Reid called out his rookie kicker after the game. What a bushleague thing to do.

How long do we see Juan still try to run this defense?

WTF is NNamdi playing zone for?

Why not move away from the wide 9 on most running situations?

Up 17 at halftime? LETS PASS

Juan Castillo went to the Andy Reid School of Second Half Adjustments

Any other team and Reid would be on the hot seat big time, he is 3 years past his due date ( and im being generous ). When you have 12 years of the same square peg round hole routine, its pretty easy to see the cause of it.

People may bash on McDermott but he was running a tweaked Jim Johnson defense with a depleted & undertalented defensive team thanks to the drafts. He actually did MORE with LESS when compared to Juan. How the hell as a organization, are they going to tell us they are all in but trot out that LB and safety crew & make a offensive coach with 0 defensive experience your defensive coordinator?

McNabb ain't around anymore so the blinders are falling off and people are seeing the real problem behind this team..Reid.

 

[delusional]

double posting fail

 

[eaglezzz]

"Dream Team Rolling!" Sub header has officially jinxed the 1-3 Eagles. We need to change that, depresses me every time I come to this thread

 

[thayman]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They're 3-1 and in first place. Your point?Did the defense fail to score at the goal line?Did the defense miss 2 FGs?This team has more holes than just the defense. And we're "all in" this year.

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

You sound like a lot or Redskin fans circa 2000-2009. All the "talent" purchased in FA doesn't make you a better team.

 

[scratcher]

"Dream Team Rolling!" Sub header has officially jinxed the 1-3 Eagles. We need to change that, depresses me every time I come to this thread

yessir.

 

[Amused to Death]

"Dream Team Rolling!" Sub header has officially jinxed the 1-3 Eagles. We need to change that, depresses me every time I come to this thread

yessir.

Ha! Fits right in with my new sig.

 

[eaglezzz]

"Dream Team Rolling!" Sub header has officially jinxed the 1-3 Eagles. We need to change that, depresses me every time I come to this thread

yessir.

Thanks! The underdog role is so much nicer. Now lets get win #2

 

[delusional]

it can be referred to the Dream Team movie with Michael Keaton

 

[Mustang Man]

Everyone should have seen this coming. They bring in almost an entirely new coaching staff on defense. They bring in a slew of new players on defense. Then have virtually no time to learn the system. That equals a slow start. Most people over the summer said that it will take this team time to gel. Yet here we are, with the team needing time to gel and everyone is impatient. Teams that had continuity from last season to this season are light years ahead of a team that was put together 8 weeks ago.

The 49ers have a rookie head coach and a new system. Did they have more time?

Did the 49ers look good to you?

They're 3-1 and in first place. Your point?Did the defense fail to score at the goal line?Did the defense miss 2 FGs?This team has more holes than just the defense. And we're "all in" this year.

The point is the 49ers didn't win the game, the Eagles lost it. The Eagles when all is said and done are, and will be the better team even if the records don't indicate it.Coaching isn't gonna make a FG.Coaching isn't gonna prevent a RB from trying to make a pass at the goalline while being tackled.Coaching isn't going to prevent a ball getting stripped from behind on a WR when you're driving to win the game.The Eagles should be "all in" every year.

You sound like a lot or Redskin fans circa 2000-2009. All the "talent" purchased in FA doesn't make you a better team.

The Eagles are now the team everyone loves to hate. It is hard being the preseason superbowl champs and the team that gets all the high priced free agents. You guys have combined what the Cowboys and Redskins have been and made it all yours. ENJOY!

 

[loose circuits]

listening to all the whining literally makes me want to become a Texans fan just so I am not part of this fan base anymore. Seems dire right now, but Eagles backs are always against the wall.We started 2-3 in 2003 & 2008 and still made it to NFC Championship game. Started 1-2 in 2000 and made Division championship. This team has more talent than both.They'll get it turned around, I'm not gonna lose hope. backs are against the wall and some guys are gonna have to step up with Cole & Peters out a while, but they always seem to come through when you are about to right them off. Definitely can win these next 2 and then we go from there. 3-3 after the bye and we'll be back on track as those guys should get healthy not to mention Graham will be back which should help the pass rush

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills. Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

we can win all those games. Most of those teams have significant holes in one place or another

 

[Crusaderfan]

Thought this was really funny, particularly the Dr. Evil/Minnie Me photo...And honestly I have a hard time imagining Eskin being arrogant on San Fran radio. Eskin, who handles sideline reporting duties for the Eagles radio broadcasts, appeared on KNBR in San Francisco before Sunday’s game between the two teams. Via Deadspin, Eskin guaranteed that the Eagles would win.And Eskin was willing to put his mountain bike where his mouth is; he said he’d ride a bicycle from Philly to San Fran if the Eagle lose.“There is no chance the 49ers win — zero,” Eskin said. “This is a stone-cold mortal lock. I’ll take a bike from Philadelphia to San Francisco. Yes. There’s no way the Eagles go 1-3. None. Absolutely none. . . . They can’t lose to the 49ers.”http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/03/eskin-guarantees-eagles-win-commits-to-long-bike-ride/

This is typical Eskin. He has been a Andy Reid lapdog for years. Now he gets kicked to the curb from WIP and officially climbs into bed with Andy and the Eagles. Unfortunately for Howard once he jumps in he finds out Andy wets the bed. Couldn't happen to a better person than the ####### that once intentionally picked a fight with the only real winner in Philly - Charlie Manuel.Enjoy your new job Howard - schmuck!!!!!

 

[delusional]

listening to all the whining literally makes me want to become a Texans fan just so I am not part of this fan base anymore. Seems dire right now, but Eagles backs are always against the wall.We started 2-3 in 2003 & 2008 and still made it to NFC Championship game. Started 1-2 in 2000 and made Division championship. This team has more talent than both.They'll get it turned around, I'm not gonna lose hope. backs are against the wall and some guys are gonna have to step up with Cole & Peters out a while, but they always seem to come through when you are about to right them off. Definitely can win these next 2 and then we go from there. 3-3 after the bye and we'll be back on track as those guys should get healthy not to mention Graham will be back which should help the pass rush

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills. Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

we can win all those games. Most of those teams have significant holes in one place or another

Some of us removed the green tinted glasses a long time ago. Are the games winnable? Sure, but the chances of them winning is what is slim. Juan keeps talking about the defense and how its been improving and they will keep improving. That he HAS TO PUT GUYS IN A BETTER POSITION....if you are an eagle fan and have been for some time, you should be banging your head against the wall after hearing that statement. This team is too stubborn to change because it is driven by a very egotistical & stubborn head coach. You may continue to cheer for them like the majority of things are going right but after seeing the same #### for the past 12 years, I am done. I held on what little faith I had ( that faith in the players themselves to overcome to coaching blunders ) but a sane sports fan can only take so much.Reids tenure here can be summed up with 4 words: Square Peg Round Hole

 

[netnalp]

it can be referred to the Dream Team movie with Michael Keaton

This year they can have the Dream Team nickname and next year the nickname from another movie title, "Exodus"

 

[fred_1_15301]

listening to all the whining literally makes me want to become a Texans fan just so I am not part of this fan base anymore. Seems dire right now, but Eagles backs are always against the wall.We started 2-3 in 2003 & 2008 and still made it to NFC Championship game. Started 1-2 in 2000 and made Division championship. This team has more talent than both.They'll get it turned around, I'm not gonna lose hope. backs are against the wall and some guys are gonna have to step up with Cole & Peters out a while, but they always seem to come through when you are about to right them off. Definitely can win these next 2 and then we go from there. 3-3 after the bye and we'll be back on track as those guys should get healthy not to mention Graham will be back which should help the pass rush

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills. Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

we can win all those games. Most of those teams have significant holes in one place or another

The Eagles have significant holes in many areas. This team is not good enough to sniff a 10-2 record going forward. Now with the injuries, they'll be lucky to finish at .500.

 

[crewmember]

listening to all the whining literally makes me want to become a Texans fan just so I am not part of this fan base anymore. Seems dire right now, but Eagles backs are always against the wall.We started 2-3 in 2003 & 2008 and still made it to NFC Championship game. Started 1-2 in 2000 and made Division championship. This team has more talent than both.They'll get it turned around, I'm not gonna lose hope. backs are against the wall and some guys are gonna have to step up with Cole & Peters out a while, but they always seem to come through when you are about to right them off. Definitely can win these next 2 and then we go from there. 3-3 after the bye and we'll be back on track as those guys should get healthy not to mention Graham will be back which should help the pass rush

To get to 11-5 from 1-3, you have to go 10-2 over the next 12 games, including 5 division games (Cowboys and Skins twice each, and Giants), not to mention NE, Jets and Bills. Yeah, I'd like to see you guys pull that off...

we can win all those games. Most of those teams have significant holes in one place or another

Some fans are as stupid as they accuse Andy Reid of being. You would think some people could remember recent history or remember when they previously declared a season over only to have egg on their face later on the year after the Eagles went on a tear. There is some complaints to be made about the team right now, but to be talking in terms like you would at the end of a failed season is pathetic. On the bright side a good losing streak to start the season essentially brings early playoffs, who would have thought an early October match up versus the Bills could be so intense!

 

[delusional]

They just lost Peters & Cole for multiple weeks, Dixon for the year. Cole & Peters are two guys you just dont replace. Peters was the best OL when it comes to run & pass blocking, on an Oline that already was having horrible problems. Then you take out Trent Cole, who is the best player on the defensive line & with Dixon, you lose alot of pressure from the front four. Now Babin will be getting the double team. When the front 4 doesn't get pressure, this team is horrendous on defense. The only thing of value is Nnamdi & Asante...and with Nnamdi being used entirely wrong, it is only going to get worse.

Teams are just going to keep passing in the middle & using PA to cross up the safeties and also run to whatever side Babin is NOT on.

How can anyone actually look at this team with a positive outlook?

They have been outscored 36-0 in the 4th quarter alone in the last 3 games. Soon as half time hits, teams just take over..because our defensive coach, broken record here, can not make half time adjustments...sound familiar?

Tell me how, in a game where you are leading by 17pts at half time, you still pass the ball a total of 46 times & rush...9. Going ino the game McCoy was one of the top 3 rushers in the league. ( now top 5 yardage wise ). There is no explanation for this. It has Reid stamped all over it.

Hell bring back McDermott. He did more with less after being tossed into the role.

http://media.philly.com/images/400*376/100211_eagles+3.jpg

I thought hits on the knees of QBs were illegal?

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[Amused to Death]

Cris Carter was just on Mike & Mike discussing the Eagles defensive problems. He was questioning why this team can't change their philosophy as they clearly don't have the personnel to run their defensive scheme. To him it was unbelievable that they changed all the LBs positions 3 weeks into the season. To him, that's a sign things aren't right. And its unbelievable to him they can't change to man coverage. I heard Jim Mora, Jr. on NFLN's Coaches Show ask the same thing. In fact, JMJr. rattled off a number of basic changes Castillo could make to instantly improve the run D.

Does Juan know enough to implement them?