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***Official*** 2012 FBG Subscriber Contest Thread (2 Viewers)

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'LHUCKS said:
Gonna be a pretty low cut line this week, any of the stat crunchers want to take a stab at the number? Closest to the number gets FFA glory, and mad props.
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121.65
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I'm hoping this is close. With injuries and byes I only have 1 QB, 3 RB,4 WR, and 2 TE going. Even worse is I'll be sweating it out until MNF with Cutler, Forte and Hanson as likely starters.
 
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Pretty solid start averaging 179.1. Nothing fancy just getting lucky with a few players each week. Benson down hurts at RB and with Fosters bye looming in week 8 I'd like to see another sign of life from Mendy. Love the WR group but should have spent the $5 on STL Steve Smith on another D. Having typed this, entering "post" will most certainly smite The Wunderlix from existence.

 
Lurk all year - Thanks for all the contributions to this contest/thread.

Year 2 for me in this contest. I like my team but RB is just too weak for long term survival unless Royster/Taiwan hit the lottery for me. The Benson injury hurt. I love my WR and TE spots. The Titus Young and Blackmon $ may pay off down the road but seems a waste thus far. Week 7 is gonna be dicey. Good luck to all.

Joe Flacco BAL QB 0.00% $11 26.85 15.60 35.40 28.20 8.75 17.90 bye

Andrew Luck IND QB 0.00% $11 16.35 25.30 30.65 bye 36.50 9.90

Doug Martin TBB RB 0.00% $21 15.80 12.60 9.40 6.20 bye 15.10

Willis McGahee DEN RB 0.00% $16 6.40 26.40 5.20 25.50 15.20 13.80 bye

Jonathan Dwyer PIT RB 0.00% $4 7.40 5.00 1.00 bye 0.00 0.00

Cedric Benson GBP RB 0.00% $3 1.80 15.60 16.40 14.60 6.10 0.00 bye

Evan Royster WAS RB 0.00% $3 1.00 3.10 5.40 4.90 1.70 1.70 bye

Ronnie Brown SDC RB 0.00% $2 8.10 7.40 0.00 8.00 12.40 6.60 bye

Taiwan Jones OAK RB 0.00% $2 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 bye 0.00

Julio Jones ATL WR 0.00% $23 28.80 5.50 17.70 4.00 25.50 10.30 bye

A.J. Green CIN WR 0.00% $22 12.00 18.80 34.40 23.70 21.50 32.50 bye

Antonio Brown PIT WR 0.00% $17 11.80 15.80 21.70 bye 15.60 6.00

Eric Decker DEN WR 0.00% $17 10.40 9.30 21.60 20.90 12.10 21.80 bye

Titus Young DET WR 0.00% $10 3.50 2.10 19.50 3.20 bye 2.60

Justin Blackmon JAC WR 0.00% $7 5.40 0.00 1.70 10.80 7.00 bye

Steve Smith STL WR 0.00% $5 2.60 6.90 2.50 0.00 0.00 3.80 bye

Jon Baldwin KCC WR 0.00% $4 0.00 9.20 6.60 9.00 3.60 3.90 bye

Jimmy Graham NOS TE 0.00% $29 23.50 23.60 13.60 18.10 1.90 bye

Kyle Rudolph MIN TE 0.00% $11 14.20 14.00 23.10 3.80 14.30 20.60 bye

Lance Kendricks STL TE 0.00% $9 4.60 5.50 6.30 5.20 8.20 10.00 bye

Dwayne Allen IND TE 0.00% $2 0.00 7.80 11.00 bye 15.80 6.30

Matt Prater DEN PK 0.00% $3 5.00 3.00 15.00 18.00 3.00 5.00 bye

Greg Zuerlein STL PK 0.00% $3 15.00 15.00 11.00 21.00 8.00 9.00 bye

Mike Nugent CIN PK 0.00% $3 8.00 12.00 10.00 11.00 9.00 8.00 bye

Buffalo Bills BUF Def 0.00% $5 2.00 17.00 8.00 5.00 2.00 11.00 bye

Seattle SeahawksSEA Def 0.00% $4 5.00 11.00 8.00 4.00 8.00 5.00 bye

Cincinnati Bengals CIN Def 0.00% $3 3.00 10.00 7.00 10.00 6.00 4.00 bye

Total 161.05 180.80 204.50 181.80 173.80 162

 
Averages to date:

QB - 35.51 : 3 players, all have contributed, total cost $47

RB1 - 18.32

RB2 - 12.37

RB3 (flex) - one time @ 5.8 : 6 players, 5 have contributed but the 6th tied for #2 one week, total cost $ 78

WR 1 - 25.98

WR 2 - 18.87

WR 3 - 14.43

WR 4 (flex) - three times @ 15.87 : 9 players, 7 have contributed, total cost $ 78

TE - 21.98

TE 2 (flex) - two times @ 16.25 : 2 players, both have contributed, total cost $ 27

K - 14.33 : 3 players, two have contibuted but the other tied one week, total cost $ 12

DEF - 10.83 : 2 teams, both have contributed, total cost $ 8

(FLEX position total - 14.32)

Team average = 186.76 : low 169.45 in week 1; high 203.3 in week 3; closest call 19.7 in week 4.

22 players without byes this week, but Benson and Amendola won't play and Mendenhall and Simpson may not. Likely end of the road is week 10 with 7 byes plus Benson and maybe Amendola out.

Like most of the remaining 5001 my team is not exceptional for anything, but it is relatively consistent. And like all those remaining I am hopeful that I won't be reading about any more of my players in Stephania's reports.

 
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So I spent a couple of days and read through the entire thread. I never knew this thread existed and I look forward to reading and posting in it in the future. Like a lot of you guys this is my favorite contest every year. I'm also glad to see so many of you go through so many iterations and change your lineup so often like I do. I probably messed with my lineup once a day (and submitted a new lineup once every two or three days) from the day it went live to the day it locked. I've been doing it for like 5ish years now and unfortunately never made money or the top 250 in this contest yet, but I'm still alive and hoping this is finally the year.

Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.

 
'sooted72 said:
So I spent a couple of days and read through the entire thread. I never knew this thread existed and I look forward to reading and posting in it in the future. Like a lot of you guys this is my favorite contest every year. I'm also glad to see so many of you go through so many iterations and change your lineup so often like I do. I probably messed with my lineup once a day (and submitted a new lineup once every two or three days) from the day it went live to the day it locked. I've been doing it for like 5ish years now and unfortunately never made money or the top 250 in this contest yet, but I'm still alive and hoping this is finally the year.Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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I have never had great success here...middle of the pack, but I think 3 of each is the way to go. The price is simply to cheap and hedging your bet each week is well worth it.I always take 3/each with middle of the pack to lesser guysBironasPraterTynes$3/eachNYJ/TB/CAR4/4/3Kickers have given me a total of 98pts16.3 weekly averagea low of 7 and a high of 20Defense have given me a total of 78pts13.1 weekly averagea low of 9 and a high of 20I just don't like going with 2/each as with a BYE week you limit yourself to 1 option and at these prices, you basically have a 1/3 shot at getting double digit scores.
 
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'sooted72 said:
Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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Good games out of K and D do make a huge difference. However, because they are difficult to predict, adding an extra random K and D is one of the easier decisions to make when setting a roster.
 
I look at the K/Def choice from an injury perspective. Injuries play a big part in knocking you out of the contest each year; probably more than the extra 3-5 points you might pick up occasionally from a 3rd K or Def. Since a defense can't be injured and a kicker is rarely injured, I'd rather spend the $6 saved on an extra WR or RB.

 
'sooted72 said:
Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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Count of all teams, by number of kickers, number of defenses, and total roster size:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	696	248	30	24	272	2806	161	31	24	179	80	14	9	30	16	1319	139	78	17	8	69	1254	74	12	9	89	41	5	3	8	6	120	74	37	4	6	43	918	72	9	6	107	71	6	3	10	5	621	37	17	2	6	23	745	85	11	2	97	97	7	2	2	9	422	19	21	4	1	12	564	80	5	3	96	141	3	1	7	4	523	15	5	3	5	3	391	79	8	2	102	176	9	0	5	8	324	7	6	1	0	8	234	84	7	1	73	176	8	0	6	11	525	7	3	0	1	5	160	62	6	2	49	157	7	2	2	13	826	3	2	0	0	3	88	26	5	1	44	163	13	0	2	19	1527	2	1	0	1	0	70	26	4	0	36	121	15	0	2	21	1328	3	0	0	1	1	39	18	6	0	20	98	11	0	0	16	1729	1	0	0	1	2	33	15	0	0	22	75	15	0	5	12	1230	5	3	2	10	1	44	26	1	0	23	129	19	0	2	27	47TOT	1008	421	63	64	442	7346	808	105	50	937	1525	132	20	81	167	149
Count of live teams:
Code: 
K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	158	67	9	2	62	1050	61	5	3	48	26	2	2	8	7	119	28	25	5	0	19	484	19	2	2	30	17	3	0	0	3	020	14	11	2	1	17	362	33	1	1	42	34	2	0	3	2	121	9	4	0	0	4	309	34	4	1	38	37	2	0	1	2	122	5	7	1	0	4	221	37	2	1	34	70	2	1	3	2	223	4	1	1	3	2	161	34	3	1	41	88	3	0	2	7	124	2	1	0	0	0	113	37	3	0	33	83	2	0	1	7	225	2	3	0	1	1	69	35	3	1	22	79	4	1	0	3	226	1	0	0	0	1	35	10	0	0	14	75	7	0	1	8	427	0	1	0	0	0	31	8	1	0	17	57	6	0	1	10	928	0	0	0	0	1	17	12	4	0	10	51	3	0	0	6	629	1	0	0	0	1	14	7	0	0	9	40	8	0	3	7	530	0	0	0	0	0	17	13	0	0	8	58	8	0	0	15	18TOT	224	120	18	7	112	2883	340	28	10	346	715	52	4	23	79	52
Survival rate:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	22.7%	27.0%	30.0%	8.3%	22.8%	37.4%	37.9%	16.1%	12.5%	26.8%	32.5%	14.3%	22.2%	26.7%	43.8%	7.7%19	20.1%	32.1%	29.4%	0.0%	27.5%	38.6%	25.7%	16.7%	22.2%	33.7%	41.5%	60.0%	0.0%	0.0%	50.0%	0.0%20	18.9%	29.7%	50.0%	16.7%	39.5%	39.4%	45.8%	11.1%	16.7%	39.3%	47.9%	33.3%	0.0%	30.0%	40.0%	16.7%21	24.3%	23.5%	0.0%	0.0%	17.4%	41.5%	40.0%	36.4%	50.0%	39.2%	38.1%	28.6%	0.0%	50.0%	22.2%	25.0%22	26.3%	33.3%	25.0%	0.0%	33.3%	39.2%	46.3%	40.0%	33.3%	35.4%	49.6%	66.7%	100.0%	42.9%	50.0%	40.0%23	26.7%	20.0%	33.3%	60.0%	66.7%	41.2%	43.0%	37.5%	50.0%	40.2%	50.0%	33.3%	---	40.0%	87.5%	33.3%24	28.6%	16.7%	0.0%	---	0.0%	48.3%	44.0%	42.9%	0.0%	45.2%	47.2%	25.0%	---	16.7%	63.6%	40.0%25	28.6%	100.0%	---	100.0%	20.0%	43.1%	56.5%	50.0%	50.0%	44.9%	50.3%	57.1%	50.0%	0.0%	23.1%	25.0%26	33.3%	0.0%	---	---	33.3%	39.8%	38.5%	0.0%	0.0%	31.8%	46.0%	53.8%	---	50.0%	42.1%	26.7%27	0.0%	100.0%	---	0.0%	---	44.3%	30.8%	25.0%	---	47.2%	47.1%	40.0%	---	50.0%	47.6%	69.2%28	0.0%	---	---	0.0%	100.0%	43.6%	66.7%	66.7%	---	50.0%	52.0%	27.3%	---	---	37.5%	35.3%29	100.0%	---	---	0.0%	50.0%	42.4%	46.7%	---	---	40.9%	53.3%	53.3%	---	60.0%	58.3%	41.7%30	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	38.6%	50.0%	0.0%	---	34.8%	45.0%	42.1%	---	0.0%	55.6%	38.3%TOT	22.2%	28.5%	28.6%	10.9%	25.3%	39.2%	42.1%	26.7%	20.0%	36.9%	46.9%	39.4%	20.0%	28.4%	47.3%	34.9%
Average score of all teams:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	161.84	165.62	165.99	157.74	164.30	169.18	168.78	164.56	158.34	168.31	168.74	162.47	159.70	165.26	168.33	160.1219	159.85	166.24	162.84	163.67	163.95	169.48	169.04	164.22	164.12	167.79	169.40	172.48	160.55	162.78	173.13	171.0220	162.07	164.95	172.92	154.01	165.79	169.51	170.63	157.38	159.46	169.10	170.70	166.83	161.11	162.22	166.93	159.7521	161.52	164.09	159.10	167.20	161.85	170.26	172.07	168.46	168.50	170.07	169.46	162.42	155.76	173.97	166.29	173.8422	160.96	166.37	160.33	144.19	165.13	170.10	171.68	168.92	159.90	169.21	171.65	170.20	156.40	166.51	175.01	165.9323	154.65	165.33	143.08	161.36	171.98	168.77	171.05	163.48	162.66	168.43	172.44	164.51	---	169.17	175.78	166.9224	154.18	160.86	171.06	---	165.01	170.16	171.59	167.53	167.79	168.62	171.66	172.13	---	167.20	176.58	171.6225	163.40	167.44	---	175.68	154.63	169.04	171.33	173.05	160.80	170.89	170.89	168.16	150.69	161.07	169.14	161.2426	158.16	167.19	---	---	163.19	169.03	168.58	164.82	146.62	169.57	171.59	169.24	---	173.50	171.57	165.9527	104.06	167.47	---	171.76	---	170.86	168.28	167.69	---	167.68	170.81	168.73	---	169.70	172.06	175.5428	155.37	---	---	176.47	172.73	170.26	175.89	169.03	---	169.75	171.48	165.99	---	---	169.27	168.0729	159.13	---	---	128.41	164.03	169.06	171.11	---	---	169.80	172.96	173.10	---	170.23	172.36	168.3030	150.87	165.18	155.05	127.06	157.62	169.89	173.30	162.41	---	166.98	170.88	168.26	---	159.40	171.58	166.86TOT	161.20	165.60	163.64	154.63	164.23	169.48	170.64	165.49	160.24	168.87	171.18	167.96	158.58	165.72	171.22	166.95
In general, three of each is probably the way to go; however, if you're going with a small roster (e.g. 18 players) then you're probably better off with just two of each. I've always been a larger-roster, two-of-each kind of guy, so I suppose my personal philosophy goes against what the data would suggest. I'd always rather spend that extra $6+ on another one or two RBs or WRs. :shrug:
 
'sooted72 said:
So I spent a couple of days and read through the entire thread. I never knew this thread existed and I look forward to reading and posting in it in the future. Like a lot of you guys this is my favorite contest every year. I'm also glad to see so many of you go through so many iterations and change your lineup so often like I do. I probably messed with my lineup once a day (and submitted a new lineup once every two or three days) from the day it went live to the day it locked. I've been doing it for like 5ish years now and unfortunately never made money or the top 250 in this contest yet, but I'm still alive and hoping this is finally the year.Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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I used to be in the 3 is better than 2 crowd.My original thinking (it pretty much applies to both PK and DEF):1) Week to week they are pretty much unpredictable BUT2) Have an ability to score VERY well.Adding these 2 together, grabbing 3 of them increased your chances of having one that scored very well in any given week. Additionally,1) Especially defenses, Great NFL defenses does not neccessarily equal great defenses for contest. A) They cost a lot, B)you get most of your points in this contest from Turnovers and more importantly TD's. Great Defenses do get these at a higher rate (especially Turnovers, TD's are more flukey), but they are typically so good that they force a lot of 3 and outs. A defense can't score you these points if they aren't on the field. Bad defenses are on the field more, which means more opportunities for these things to happen. 2) For both K and Def, the ones you expect to be the best at the beginning of the year aren't necessarily the ones that are best at the end of the year. Translated: there is turnover amongst the top ones. Adding these 2 together, I think you're better off grabbing low end players versus high end players. Why take an expensive Kicker if you can get 2 or 3 inexpensive ones at the same cost?This year, however, I changed my positioning and went from 3 of each to 2 of each. I'm out of the contest now, but don't think this had any impact. I still believe in what I said above, but the difference was the changing of price structure. For pretty much all players this year, they narrowed the cost gap between the top players and bottom players. For the main positions, the gap is still pretty large (a $2 RB/WR vs $30 RB/WR). But for Kickers and Defenses, the cheapest went from $2 to $3 and the most expensive were around $6. Forgoing a $5 defense used to mean I could get 2 $2 defenses and have a $1 to spent elsewhere. Now it meant getins 1 $3 defense and having $2 to spend else where. To go with 3 K/D meant I had to spend a minimum of $9 where it use to be $6, a 50% increase. $3 doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a James Jones, Andre Roberts, Kerley or Ced Benson (pre injury but you get the point). It's the difference between Eric Decker or Maclin and Harvin. Of course I'm cherry picking here a bit to show you the impact that $3 could have, but the point is that a 3rd kicker COULD increase your score in any given week by what? Ignoring extremes, 10 points? I just don't see that as enough justification when you could of had a guy that could easily of matched that score increase, if not better it, and do so more consistently.
 
'sooted72 said:
So I spent a couple of days and read through the entire thread. I never knew this thread existed and I look forward to reading and posting in it in the future. Like a lot of you guys this is my favorite contest every year. I'm also glad to see so many of you go through so many iterations and change your lineup so often like I do. I probably messed with my lineup once a day (and submitted a new lineup once every two or three days) from the day it went live to the day it locked. I've been doing it for like 5ish years now and unfortunately never made money or the top 250 in this contest yet, but I'm still alive and hoping this is finally the year.Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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The thing about bargain-basement Ks and Ds is that it's hard to predict which ones will work. I took three of each; at K I never scored less than 12 points, and at D I never scored less than 6. (One K bye and two D byes are gone.) If I had chosen the so-far best combo of two Ks (Gould and Dawson) I would still have scored at least 12 points each week, but if I had chosen one of those and Hauschka I would have had lower weeks; with Gould and Hauschka I would have had a 6-point and 7-point week, with Dawson and Hauschka I would have had one 2-point week.For defense, same thing, if I'd chosen my best combo I would have done just as well, but if I'd chosen one of my two good ones with my bad one (the Colts), I would have had 3 and 4-point weeks (with the Browns), or a 3, 4, and one point week (with the Saints).So, you can go with two if you choose them well or get lucky. Having three, though, covers byes, bad luck, and gives a solid floor to your K and D production. For $6 and two roster spots it seems worth it.
 
Getting nervous about this week. A zero from Locker = a zero at my QB.

My averages I did earlier were before Gates' Monday night explosion. Actual results through week 6:

QB - 27.03 (Vick with one week of Locker)

RB1 - 17.37 (4 different guys)

RB2 - 10.02 (3 different guys)

WR1 - 31.00 (Marshall 2x's, 4 guys once)

WR2 - 22.72 (Havin 2x's, 4 guys once)

WR3 - 19.33 (Wayne 3x's, 3 guys once)

TE - 16.38 (Pettigrew, then last 2 weeks Gates)

Flex - 14.13 (has been a WR every week)

PK - 14.67 (Hanson except on bye week it was Medlock)

TD - 9.00 (Bills 4x's, Seahawks 2x's)

Players I have never used: Taiwan Jones ($2), Justin Blackmon ($7), Rob Bironas ($3), KC Chiefs ($3)...however the Chiefs have matched the defense that counted each of the last 4 weeks, so they are a valuable asset. Bironas matched Hanson last week as well.

Surprising notes: I haven't actually used any one player every week. However, the only times that Reggie Wayne and Hanson were unused was their bye. Guys who have only not counted once when available are Vick, McFadden, Marshall, Harvin, Pettigrew. Benson also counted every week until he was injured.

My team is extremely strong at WR, good at PK, average at TE, weak at TD and putrid at RB. When both of my RB scores combine for less than my weekly WR1, that is an issue. Missing FJax for so long was tough, but Benson helped me through (and even David Wilson one week!).

This week is a big test with no QB, only 1 TE and only 2 real RB's. Once again my WR's will have to bail me out. Maybe I get a miracle game from a kicker or defense as well. GL all!

 
'Modog814 said:
To go with 3 K/D meant I had to spend a minimum of $9 where it use to be $6, a 50% increase. $3 doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a James Jones, Andre Roberts, Kerley or Ced Benson (pre injury but you get the point). It's the difference between Eric Decker or Maclin and Harvin. Of course I'm cherry picking here a bit to show you the impact that $3 could have, but the point is that a 3rd kicker COULD increase your score in any given week by what? Ignoring extremes, 10 points? I just don't see that as enough justification when you could of had a guy that could easily of matched that score increase, if not better it, and do so more consistently.
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For every Maclin -> Harvin there's a Wayne -> Lloyd backfire or even worse a Harvin/J Jones/K/D -> Calvin. I'll take the extra dice in the craps game.
 
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My defenses are Philly $6 and Seattle $4

Wishing I would have split that $6 philly defense into two $3 defenses and given myself 3 total to work with. Went with 3 kickers (Gould, Prater, Nugent) so happy there so far. My thoughts on the defenses were that they can't get injuried so locking in only 2 would be fine and you would have them every week and never worry about injuries only have to worry about the bye weeks. As for the kickers I added 3 because there is always a chance they can get injuried.

I did go with 5 TE's for a total of $25 which was $4 cheaper then Jimmy Graham. I knew I could count on them for a Flex play and the 1.5 points per reception would be a big help in case my #3 RB/#4 WR flopped that week.

Olsen $11

Bennett $4

Dreessen $4

Davis $4

Allen $2

Anyways here is my squad, they are consistant but won't blow you away. Eaglezzz

 
I was a 3-and-3 guy in the past, back when it didn't cost $3 each to add that 3rd PK and Def. My biggest reason for doing it was my total fear of having 1 PK option twice and 1 Def option twice. Couple that with the near-randomness of a big (and tiny) PK and (in this format anyway) Def score and it seemed like the better choice to go with 3 of each.

This year the price tag on PK and Def was different, which changed my philosophy. The difference between an "elite" PK and a random replacement PK was reduced, which seemed to lend itself towards snagging one of those "better" PK's (for me it was Bryant @ $4), with a replacement-level #2 (for me, Bironas), then use that extra $2 elsewhere. In the past, you could go with 3 "replacement-level" PK for $6 and a Bryant-type would cost you at least $2 more. Now, $6 only gets you 2 replacement-level PK, not 3.

I did the same type of thing with Defenses and spent $8 on 2 options. That extra $3 allowed me to upgrade to Britt -- whom I really wanted for the back half of the season.

As far as production, I've been pleased with PK ($20, $12, $16, $17, $9, $19) and Def ($14, $10, $8, $11, $8, $11) thus far. I'm sweating only having 1 option for each this week though. In retrospect I should have been more careful in coordinating the byes between those positions.

My prediction on the cut line: 135.3.

 
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'Modog814 said:
To go with 3 K/D meant I had to spend a minimum of $9 where it use to be $6, a 50% increase. $3 doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a James Jones, Andre Roberts, Kerley or Ced Benson (pre injury but you get the point). It's the difference between Eric Decker or Maclin and Harvin. Of course I'm cherry picking here a bit to show you the impact that $3 could have, but the point is that a 3rd kicker COULD increase your score in any given week by what? Ignoring extremes, 10 points? I just don't see that as enough justification when you could of had a guy that could easily of matched that score increase, if not better it, and do so more consistently.
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For every Maclin -> Harvin there's a Wayne -> Lloyd backfire or even worse a Harvin/J Jones/K/D -> Calvin. I'll take the extra dice in the craps game.
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True and for every extra kicker there is missing out on taking a James Jones or Andre Roberts who have proved to be just as valuable, if not more than an extra kicker or extra defense. If you take out of the equation the "extra player" factor, meaning you have $3 to spend, would you rather have a 3rd kicker or a flyer at RB/WR? Personally, I'd rather have the flyer because of the much higher upside. But I totally get why someone would rather have the K or Def if they thought it gave them a higher floor score each week. In the end, this, like most things in this contest, comes down to not so much using one strategy or another (or one being "the correct" strategy), but selecting the correct players that make that strategy successful.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'sooted72 said:
Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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Count of all teams, by number of kickers, number of defenses, and total roster size:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	696	248	30	24	272	2806	161	31	24	179	80	14	9	30	16	1319	139	78	17	8	69	1254	74	12	9	89	41	5	3	8	6	120	74	37	4	6	43	918	72	9	6	107	71	6	3	10	5	621	37	17	2	6	23	745	85	11	2	97	97	7	2	2	9	422	19	21	4	1	12	564	80	5	3	96	141	3	1	7	4	523	15	5	3	5	3	391	79	8	2	102	176	9	0	5	8	324	7	6	1	0	8	234	84	7	1	73	176	8	0	6	11	525	7	3	0	1	5	160	62	6	2	49	157	7	2	2	13	826	3	2	0	0	3	88	26	5	1	44	163	13	0	2	19	1527	2	1	0	1	0	70	26	4	0	36	121	15	0	2	21	1328	3	0	0	1	1	39	18	6	0	20	98	11	0	0	16	1729	1	0	0	1	2	33	15	0	0	22	75	15	0	5	12	1230	5	3	2	10	1	44	26	1	0	23	129	19	0	2	27	47TOT	1008	421	63	64	442	7346	808	105	50	937	1525	132	20	81	167	149
Count of live teams:
Code: 
K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	158	67	9	2	62	1050	61	5	3	48	26	2	2	8	7	119	28	25	5	0	19	484	19	2	2	30	17	3	0	0	3	020	14	11	2	1	17	362	33	1	1	42	34	2	0	3	2	121	9	4	0	0	4	309	34	4	1	38	37	2	0	1	2	122	5	7	1	0	4	221	37	2	1	34	70	2	1	3	2	223	4	1	1	3	2	161	34	3	1	41	88	3	0	2	7	124	2	1	0	0	0	113	37	3	0	33	83	2	0	1	7	225	2	3	0	1	1	69	35	3	1	22	79	4	1	0	3	226	1	0	0	0	1	35	10	0	0	14	75	7	0	1	8	427	0	1	0	0	0	31	8	1	0	17	57	6	0	1	10	928	0	0	0	0	1	17	12	4	0	10	51	3	0	0	6	629	1	0	0	0	1	14	7	0	0	9	40	8	0	3	7	530	0	0	0	0	0	17	13	0	0	8	58	8	0	0	15	18TOT	224	120	18	7	112	2883	340	28	10	346	715	52	4	23	79	52
Survival rate:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	22.7%	27.0%	30.0%	8.3%	22.8%	37.4%	37.9%	16.1%	12.5%	26.8%	32.5%	14.3%	22.2%	26.7%	43.8%	7.7%19	20.1%	32.1%	29.4%	0.0%	27.5%	38.6%	25.7%	16.7%	22.2%	33.7%	41.5%	60.0%	0.0%	0.0%	50.0%	0.0%20	18.9%	29.7%	50.0%	16.7%	39.5%	39.4%	45.8%	11.1%	16.7%	39.3%	47.9%	33.3%	0.0%	30.0%	40.0%	16.7%21	24.3%	23.5%	0.0%	0.0%	17.4%	41.5%	40.0%	36.4%	50.0%	39.2%	38.1%	28.6%	0.0%	50.0%	22.2%	25.0%22	26.3%	33.3%	25.0%	0.0%	33.3%	39.2%	46.3%	40.0%	33.3%	35.4%	49.6%	66.7%	100.0%	42.9%	50.0%	40.0%23	26.7%	20.0%	33.3%	60.0%	66.7%	41.2%	43.0%	37.5%	50.0%	40.2%	50.0%	33.3%	---	40.0%	87.5%	33.3%24	28.6%	16.7%	0.0%	---	0.0%	48.3%	44.0%	42.9%	0.0%	45.2%	47.2%	25.0%	---	16.7%	63.6%	40.0%25	28.6%	100.0%	---	100.0%	20.0%	43.1%	56.5%	50.0%	50.0%	44.9%	50.3%	57.1%	50.0%	0.0%	23.1%	25.0%26	33.3%	0.0%	---	---	33.3%	39.8%	38.5%	0.0%	0.0%	31.8%	46.0%	53.8%	---	50.0%	42.1%	26.7%27	0.0%	100.0%	---	0.0%	---	44.3%	30.8%	25.0%	---	47.2%	47.1%	40.0%	---	50.0%	47.6%	69.2%28	0.0%	---	---	0.0%	100.0%	43.6%	66.7%	66.7%	---	50.0%	52.0%	27.3%	---	---	37.5%	35.3%29	100.0%	---	---	0.0%	50.0%	42.4%	46.7%	---	---	40.9%	53.3%	53.3%	---	60.0%	58.3%	41.7%30	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	38.6%	50.0%	0.0%	---	34.8%	45.0%	42.1%	---	0.0%	55.6%	38.3%TOT	22.2%	28.5%	28.6%	10.9%	25.3%	39.2%	42.1%	26.7%	20.0%	36.9%	46.9%	39.4%	20.0%	28.4%	47.3%	34.9%
Average score of all teams:
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K ->	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+	1	2	3	4+D ->	1	1	1	1	2	2	2	2	3	3	3	3	4+	4+	4+	4+18	161.84	165.62	165.99	157.74	164.30	169.18	168.78	164.56	158.34	168.31	168.74	162.47	159.70	165.26	168.33	160.1219	159.85	166.24	162.84	163.67	163.95	169.48	169.04	164.22	164.12	167.79	169.40	172.48	160.55	162.78	173.13	171.0220	162.07	164.95	172.92	154.01	165.79	169.51	170.63	157.38	159.46	169.10	170.70	166.83	161.11	162.22	166.93	159.7521	161.52	164.09	159.10	167.20	161.85	170.26	172.07	168.46	168.50	170.07	169.46	162.42	155.76	173.97	166.29	173.8422	160.96	166.37	160.33	144.19	165.13	170.10	171.68	168.92	159.90	169.21	171.65	170.20	156.40	166.51	175.01	165.9323	154.65	165.33	143.08	161.36	171.98	168.77	171.05	163.48	162.66	168.43	172.44	164.51	---	169.17	175.78	166.9224	154.18	160.86	171.06	---	165.01	170.16	171.59	167.53	167.79	168.62	171.66	172.13	---	167.20	176.58	171.6225	163.40	167.44	---	175.68	154.63	169.04	171.33	173.05	160.80	170.89	170.89	168.16	150.69	161.07	169.14	161.2426	158.16	167.19	---	---	163.19	169.03	168.58	164.82	146.62	169.57	171.59	169.24	---	173.50	171.57	165.9527	104.06	167.47	---	171.76	---	170.86	168.28	167.69	---	167.68	170.81	168.73	---	169.70	172.06	175.5428	155.37	---	---	176.47	172.73	170.26	175.89	169.03	---	169.75	171.48	165.99	---	---	169.27	168.0729	159.13	---	---	128.41	164.03	169.06	171.11	---	---	169.80	172.96	173.10	---	170.23	172.36	168.3030	150.87	165.18	155.05	127.06	157.62	169.89	173.30	162.41	---	166.98	170.88	168.26	---	159.40	171.58	166.86TOT	161.20	165.60	163.64	154.63	164.23	169.48	170.64	165.49	160.24	168.87	171.18	167.96	158.58	165.72	171.22	166.95
In general, three of each is probably the way to go; however, if you're going with a small roster (e.g. 18 players) then you're probably better off with just two of each. I've always been a larger-roster, two-of-each kind of guy, so I suppose my personal philosophy goes against what the data would suggest. I'd always rather spend that extra $6+ on another one or two RBs or WRs. :shrug:
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I think it's interesting to see the significant difference in the survival rates versus the insignificant difference in the scoring average. It might be interesting to also see the same table of the average scores of just the surviving teams.
 
I went with two kickers....Prater and Cundiff. That isn't working out so well for me, but I couldn't predict Cundiff being cut. I thought he was a pretty safe pick actually. I will probably go with 2 k's and 2 def's again next year, unless I decide to go with a large roster. You have to get lucky in this contest to win it....I would rather spend the extra six dollars in a different areas though.

 
I've averaged 194.2 over the first 6 weeks.

Stubby

I went with 4 kickers and 2 Def/ST.

With the defenses, I've used Chicago 4 times, and Buffalo (yuck) twice, including last week on Chicago's bye. We will see if that keeps working, but so far I am averaging 16.8 points per week from Def/ST.

With my kickers, only 2 out of 4 have counted so far. Prater and Zuerlein. Lindell and Medlock were a complete waste. However, only Medlock has had his bye week so far, and I'm willing to bet even though Carolina looks like crap, that either he or Lindell will "count" for me at some point going forward, and they were only $3 each. Would I have preferred spending that $3 on James Jones? Sure, but you can't always hit on everything, and getting 13.8 a week so far on the kicker spot has been a bonus. Maybe if I had only picked 2 or 3 kickers, I would have left off either Prater or Zuerlein... :unsure:

 
'Modog814 said:
'BroadwayG said:
'Modog814 said:
To go with 3 K/D meant I had to spend a minimum of $9 where it use to be $6, a 50% increase. $3 doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a James Jones, Andre Roberts, Kerley or Ced Benson (pre injury but you get the point). It's the difference between Eric Decker or Maclin and Harvin. Of course I'm cherry picking here a bit to show you the impact that $3 could have, but the point is that a 3rd kicker COULD increase your score in any given week by what? Ignoring extremes, 10 points? I just don't see that as enough justification when you could of had a guy that could easily of matched that score increase, if not better it, and do so more consistently.
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For every Maclin -> Harvin there's a Wayne -> Lloyd backfire or even worse a Harvin/J Jones/K/D -> Calvin. I'll take the extra dice in the craps game.
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True and for every extra kicker there is missing out on taking a James Jones or Andre Roberts who have proved to be just as valuable, if not more than an extra kicker or extra defense. If you take out of the equation the "extra player" factor, meaning you have $3 to spend, would you rather have a 3rd kicker or a flyer at RB/WR? Personally, I'd rather have the flyer because of the much higher upside. But I totally get why someone would rather have the K or Def if they thought it gave them a higher floor score each week. In the end, this, like most things in this contest, comes down to not so much using one strategy or another (or one being "the correct" strategy), but selecting the correct players that make that strategy successful.
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Why not go for both a pile of K/D and bunch of flyers? I took 4 K 4 D and a 30 man roster. Like someone said above k/d are highly unpredictable and can score a ton of points. These spots are the ultimate quantity over quality imho.
 
I'm a 3K/3D guy, although I did think of dropping to 2 D's this year since they can't get injured (as was noted above).

I only have 5 RB's, so I most likely would have replaced with an RB...

1 weeks this year so far, I beat the cut by the improvement from the 3rd player and the 2nd week would have been a push:

Week 2 - 11 from the Seahawks vs. 3 from the Saints and made the cut by 8 points - a push with the cut

Week 6 - 19 from Bironas vs. 5 from Prater (other K on a bye) - net 14, made the cut by 10.65. Would have needed to find a $3 RB who score 13.75 to make the cut...

 
I'm waiting for 22-kicker guy to weigh in :)

Not the most promising start to the week for me :(

Manningham deactivated so a 0.0

Lynch only was able to muster 12.6 and I think I needed more out of him.

This week I have:

QB - Gabbert

RB - Lynch Foster Royster Possibly Taiwan Jones Possibly Kevin Smith

WR - Dez Titus Blackmon Broyles

TE - Hernandez Gresham Olsen

PK - Bironas Nugent

TD - Cincy, Jets, NO

:no:

-QG

 
'sooted72 said:
So I spent a couple of days and read through the entire thread. I never knew this thread existed and I look forward to reading and posting in it in the future. Like a lot of you guys this is my favorite contest every year. I'm also glad to see so many of you go through so many iterations and change your lineup so often like I do. I probably messed with my lineup once a day (and submitted a new lineup once every two or three days) from the day it went live to the day it locked. I've been doing it for like 5ish years now and unfortunately never made money or the top 250 in this contest yet, but I'm still alive and hoping this is finally the year.Not trying to rehash all the discussions/arguments that have been pretty much beaten to death throughout this thread so far, but the thing I struggle with the most is the K/DEF discussion. I've been an ardent supporter of taking just two of each with different bye weeks and always from the lowest tier. My thinking was that they dont really make much of a difference and are hard to predict anyway, so I just don't spend a lot of time or money on it. I would love to hear from the 3 (or more) of each crowd as to whether or not they feel it improves their team enough to make it worth the extra salary dump.
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3K/3D guy here as well....Also a fan of big rosters with 29 players this year. Even with the increase in K/D prices, the reduction of prices elsewhere offset it. Frankly, we saw the same debate this year that we did last year about roster size and once more the large rosters are leading the pack. With 3K/3D I think you get the best value each week even with byes where you reduce your variation of scoring. In the first 3 weeks, I used each defense once. In the last 3 weeks, I used each kicker once and each defense once. If I went with 2 K or 2 D, I would have been out in Week 2 or Week 3 this year... would have been my earliest exit ever... For me I will always go 3K/3D just too good to pass up and when you go deep in the contest, those points can make the difference in survival.
 
Thanks for all the responses guys.

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
I've always been a larger-roster, two-of-each kind of guy, so I suppose my personal philosophy goes against what the data would suggest. I'd always rather spend that extra $6+ on another one or two RBs or WRs. :shrug:
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This is pretty much how I feel too. This does seem to be an especially good year for $3 studs, though, so maybe there's a bit of confirmation bias involved.Thanks for the tables, they were interesting. So far 3/3 is beating up 2/2 at almost every roster size. But it'll be interesting to see if that remains the case throughout the season as injuries and bye weeks start to take over and the extra roster spot becomes more valuable.
 
'Hoosier16 said:
I look at the K/Def choice from an injury perspective. Injuries play a big part in knocking you out of the contest each year; probably more than the extra 3-5 points you might pick up occasionally from a 3rd K or Def. Since a defense can't be injured and a kicker is rarely injured, I'd rather spend the $6 saved on an extra WR or RB.
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Agreed if your kicker isn't Kaeding.
 
Busted out already. Next year I will put more effort into it.

Matt Ryan & Jake Locker combo backfired this week.

Matt Forte on bye.

K and DEF sucked.

= BUSTED OUT

 
'ctriopelle said:
'Modog814 said:
'BroadwayG said:
'Modog814 said:
To go with 3 K/D meant I had to spend a minimum of $9 where it use to be $6, a 50% increase. $3 doesn't seem like a lot, but it's a James Jones, Andre Roberts, Kerley or Ced Benson (pre injury but you get the point). It's the difference between Eric Decker or Maclin and Harvin. Of course I'm cherry picking here a bit to show you the impact that $3 could have, but the point is that a 3rd kicker COULD increase your score in any given week by what? Ignoring extremes, 10 points? I just don't see that as enough justification when you could of had a guy that could easily of matched that score increase, if not better it, and do so more consistently.
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For every Maclin -> Harvin there's a Wayne -> Lloyd backfire or even worse a Harvin/J Jones/K/D -> Calvin. I'll take the extra dice in the craps game.
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True and for every extra kicker there is missing out on taking a James Jones or Andre Roberts who have proved to be just as valuable, if not more than an extra kicker or extra defense. If you take out of the equation the "extra player" factor, meaning you have $3 to spend, would you rather have a 3rd kicker or a flyer at RB/WR? Personally, I'd rather have the flyer because of the much higher upside. But I totally get why someone would rather have the K or Def if they thought it gave them a higher floor score each week. In the end, this, like most things in this contest, comes down to not so much using one strategy or another (or one being "the correct" strategy), but selecting the correct players that make that strategy successful.
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Why not go for both a pile of K/D and bunch of flyers? I took 4 K 4 D and a 30 man roster. Like someone said above k/d are highly unpredictable and can score a ton of points. These spots are the ultimate quantity over quality imho.
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That's certainly another way to go about it. And if I went with a roster higher that 26, I'd almost certainly have 3 K and 3 D. But I tend to believe the sweet spot for this contest with in the 24-26 range. You get some of the benefit of the increased survival rate of larger rosters while not giving too much up in terms of "studs" versus the smaller 18 and 19 man rosters.
 
'Saint said:
3K/3D guy here as well....

Also a fan of big rosters with 29 players this year. Even with the increase in K/D prices, the reduction of prices elsewhere offset it. Frankly, we saw the same debate this year that we did last year about roster size and once more the large rosters are leading the pack. With 3K/3D I think you get the best value each week even with byes where you reduce your variation of scoring.

In the first 3 weeks, I used each defense once. In the last 3 weeks, I used each kicker once and each defense once. If I went with 2 K or 2 D, I would have been out in Week 2 or Week 3 this year... would have been my earliest exit ever... For me I will always go 3K/3D just too good to pass up and when you go deep in the contest, those points can make the difference in survival.
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Just to be clear, I don't think there is any debate that large rosters have an advantage over small rosters in the "survivor" portion of this contest. The debate we have is whether smaller rosters have any (and if so how much of) advantage in the final 3 weeks.

I think the debate is far from settled (in theory at least). The advantage that the larger roster proponents have is that it's nearly impossible to argue that their stated advantage doesn't exist. Meanwhile, due to really a lack of data and trials, it's nearly impossible to prove that the advantage that the small roster proponents claim exists, actually does.

Personally, I'm on the side that say one specific small roster does have an advantage over another specific large roster in those final 3 weeks. I don't have any idea how much, nor do I think it's a huge one.

 
My team is looking especially rough this week if my key injured guys (Murray, Mendenhall, Graham) don't play:

Matthew Stafford

Ryan Tannehill BYE

Ray Rice

DeMarco Murray INJ

David Wilson

Rashard Mendenhall INJ

Cedric Benson INJ

Evan Royster

Eric Decker BYE

Torrey Smith

Reggie Wayne

Michael Crabtree - 7.10 pts

Titus Young

Justin Blackmon

Danny Amendola INJ

Eddie Royal BYE

Jimmy Graham INJ

Tony Gonzalez BYE

Martellus Bennett

Robbie Gould

Shaun Suisham

New York Jets

Seattle Seahawks - 4.00 pts

I think I'm going to need some big days from my remaining studs, or a very low cutline, to move on to week 8.

 
Here is what I'll need this weekend to move on

Evan Royster 15-73 2 TD

D Henderson 6-101 1 TD

L Hankerson 5-88 1 TD

Bironas 7 FGs (at least 4 over 50)

approximately

 
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I seriously have the worst team in this. I have made the cut by less than 10 points in 4 of 5 weeks. I am not counting week one.

I won't be long for this contest this year after making it to 500 last year. If I make it through week 7, week 8 is my real hard spot.

Its been fun.

 
'QuizGuy66 said:
Me:QB 29.46RB1 22.67RB2 14.68WR1 27.30WR2 13.83WR3 10.20TE 17.80FLX 14.78PK 13.67DEF 11.83TOT 176.23It's a nice way of telling me that for all the players I have I don't exactly have the best group of 9 WR.On a different note, my flex position scoreboard: TE 4, RB 2, WR 0-QG
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So 80% of my average would get me to about 141.1 (rounding the position groups) and hopefully safety.From my group I needQB - Gabbert: 23.6 :unsure:RBs - Foster and Lynch: 29.9 total. Lynch had 11.6 so Foster's target is 18.3 - I'm assuming Royster and Taiwan Jones and Kevin Smith don't do anything.WRs - Dez Titus Blackmon: 41.1 total. I'm assuming I get nothing out of Broyles.TEs - (I am already assuming my flex will be a TE) - Best two of Hernandez Gresham Olsen: 26.1 totalPKs - Bironas Nugent: 10.9TDs - Cincy NO Jets: 9.5Will track against these benchmarks to assess my chances. Manningham's injury was a big blow I think.-QG
 
Here's what I have this year:

Matt Ryan $19

Jay Cutler $17

Joe Flacco $11

Fred Jackson $21

Peyton Hillis $14

Rashad Jennings $9

David Wilson $9

Bilal Powell $4

Jonathan Dwyer $4

Cedric Benson $3

Calvin Johnson $29

A.J. Green $22

Percy Harvin $20

Santana Moss $8

Alshon Jeffery $6

Steve Smith (STL) $5

Harry Douglas $3

Brent Celek $12

Greg Olsen $11

Matt Bryant $4

Rob Bironas $3

Connor Barth $3

Buffalo Bills $5

New York Jets $4

Seattle Seahawks $4

TOTAL 171.85 178.05 202.10 159.05 151.65 166.10

CUTOFF 0.00 139.60 161.90 156.75 128.45 141.50

Weak at RB, but none of my QBs, Ks, or Ds have the same bye week, so I've mostly been pretty good (Week 4 was scary-close, though.)

This is my 7th (?) year playing, and last year was as far as I got (booted in week 10 or 11, I think.)

I've always been a fan of three of each at QB, K and D, and I'd have grabbed a third TE if I could find room for it. But buying Hillis was $14 I sure wish I had back.

I don't expect to last until the finals with this squad, but hey, you never know...

Oh, and I'm saying the cutoff this week is 138.65

 
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I'm disappointed to be out in Week 6 this season.

My team was one of the 178 Ryan/Luck teams to be eliminated this week. What a time for them to both have dud outings.

Then again, I feel fortunate to have made this far with $53 of my salary cap invested in Chris Johnson and Darren McFadden! :bag: I have always struggled picking good buys at RB.

It was great fun, and look forward to next year.

 
Am I correct in seeing Dwyer getting a start? This may in fact save my team from elimination...never know whats gonna happen in this thing.

 
'Wadsworth said:
The 1097 remaining owners of Jimmy Graham can't like him missing the toughest bye week of the season. This could get ugly.
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HUGE in my opinion... just HUGE with this being the hardest bye week.Iggs, any chance you can tell us how many of those 1097 Graham owners do not have a viable starting TE this week with byes or injuries? With losing 1000 teams this week.. this could be a coffin nail.
 
'Saint said:
'Wadsworth said:
The 1097 remaining owners of Jimmy Graham can't like him missing the toughest bye week of the season. This could get ugly.
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HUGE in my opinion... just HUGE with this being the hardest bye week.Iggs, any chance you can tell us how many of those 1097 Graham owners do not have a viable starting TE this week with byes or injuries? With losing 1000 teams this week.. this could be a coffin nail.
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I will be rolling out Allen this week at TE. Graham out and Dreesen on bye. It doesn't look good at TE, but it could be worse. I'm rolling with only three WR (C. Johnson, Nelson, and Blackmon) and 4 RB (Rice, Foster, Wilson, and Royster). I'm looking at very little production from my flex position. Crossing my fingers for a low cut line and my studs to show up.
 
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