mad sweeney
Footballguy
What exactly is hubrical about that post? I'll give you a hint: nothing. There;ll be plenty of opportunities to get down on Seattle fans without trying to pretend that something is what it isn't.
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proninja
Footballguy
He's a troll. Ignore him.
NFC playoffs are stacked. I don't think there's an easy game in there. Really glad to have home games.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Congratz on a great regular season.
Seattle is my pick to win it all. Defense and special teams will win it along with limiting turnovers and running the ball. An old fashioned recipe for winning championships that still works.
Seattle is my pick to win it all. Defense and special teams will win it along with limiting turnovers and running the ball. An old fashioned recipe for winning championships that still works.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
I keep seeing this "NFC is loaded" and "The top teams are better in the NFC", yet I don't know why. I'm not seeing it. Overall the NFC beat the AFC this year 34-30. So it was close, but those are always skewed by the really bad teams on both sides. Lets look at the playoff teams against the other conference's playoffs teams:
I'll list the out of conference records overall and then in parenthesis I'll list the out of conference playoff teams won or lost to:
AFC
Broncos: 4-0 (beat the Eagles)
Cheifs: 4-0 (beat the Eagles)
Colts: 2-2 (beat the 49ers & Seahawks)
Bengals: 3-1 (beat the Packers)
Patriots: 3-1 (beat the Saints, lost to the Panthers)
Chargers: 3-1 (beat the Eagles)
NFC
49ers: 3-1 (lost to the Colts)
Seahawks: 3-1 (lost to the Colts)
Saints: 2-2 (lost to the Patriots)
Panthers: 3-1 (beat the Patriots)
Packers: 2-2 (lost to the Bengals)
Eagles: 1-3 (lost to the Chargers, Cheifs & Broncos)
I didn't realize before just going through the numbers and posting this, but the NFC playoff teams have one win and seven losses against the AFC playoff teams. Of course that makes the playoffs teams in the AFC 8-1 against playoff teams from the NFC. Interesting.
I think the AFC Playoffs are more loaded, and I'd pick any AFC team to win the Superbowl against any NFC team unless it's Seattle, who I think is playing the best in the NFL right now. I'd like the Panthers in certain situations, depending on who they were playing.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
NFC is freakin loaded.
GO HAWKS!
GO HAWKS!
I wasn't including the Eagles in the loaded statement even though they might make some noise.
Green Bay lost a close one on the road to Cinny and lost to Pitt w/o Rodgers.
New Orleans lost on the road to the Pats on a last sec TD pass.
Panthers lost on the road to Buffalo on a last sec TD pass.
49ers lost to the Colts when the Colts were a much better team (Wayne wasn't hurt)
Seattle lost to the old Colts team on the road.
The bulk of the AFC wins (KC, Den, SD) were against Phi, NYG, Dal, and Wash. The top 4 teams in the NFC only got to beat up on the NFC East once.
Lining them up by seeding and playing in NY in Jan...
1. Den v. Sea - Pick 'em. Nice weather would give Den an edge. If it's cold or wet/snow, Sea wins 8 out of ten times.
2. NE v. Car - Pick 'em. Car already beat the Gronk Pat team but that was at home. These teams are evenly matched.
3. Cin v. Phi - Really depends on which team shows up. This would be the hardest game to predict.
4. Indy v. GB - Advantage GB. Indy isn't the same team w/o Wayne. GB can handle the weather and has a superior running and passing game. Rodgers has experience over Luck.
5. KC v. SF - Advantage SF. SF trending up, KC trending down. SF had the better record and played a harder schedule.
6. SD v. NO - Huge advantage NO. NO wins this game 8.5 out of ten times.
1. Den v. Sea - Pick 'em. Nice weather would give Den an edge. If it's cold or wet/snow, Sea wins 8 out of ten times.
2. NE v. Car - Pick 'em. Car already beat the Gronk Pat team but that was at home. These teams are evenly matched.
3. Cin v. Phi - Really depends on which team shows up. This would be the hardest game to predict.
4. Indy v. GB - Advantage GB. Indy isn't the same team w/o Wayne. GB can handle the weather and has a superior running and passing game. Rodgers has experience over Luck.
5. KC v. SF - Advantage SF. SF trending up, KC trending down. SF had the better record and played a harder schedule.
6. SD v. NO - Huge advantage NO. NO wins this game 8.5 out of ten times.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
Good posting. I'd put things a bit different, so here goes:
1. I'd make Denver/Seattle a pick 'em in any weather except wet (snow or rain). Peyton ripped it up in 15 degree weather earlier, but I think in wet conditions the Seattle D would have an advantage.
2. I'd agree with NE and Carolina as a pick em too. If I had to bet, though, I'd take Carolina if Smith can get back.
3. Cin at Philly - I'd take Cincinnati in a hearbeat. Philly got drubbed by the AFC this year and the Bengals are better than people think.
4. I'd take Indy over GB. This was close for me since Rodgers and Cobb are back. You're right, Indy is different without Wayne, but if you've been watching them closely you'd notice that they had an adjustment time after he got hurt. Not only have they adjusted, but they now have their #1 RB on track and playing well which they never had when Wayne was healthy. Now they are back in rhythm and have outscored their opponents the last 3 games 78 - 20.
5. KC vs SF - I take SF. I never had faith in KC, and I got to see them a lot, me being an AFC West guy. The only chance they'd have is if they kept it close with their D and kept Kaep off balance.
6. Saints vs Charger - I take the Saints. But not as huge as you have it. The Chargers have been playing well and are better than KC, in my opinion. I'd give it to the Saints 7 out of 10 times.
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seahawk 17
Footballguy
Probably nothing to worry about but Dan Quinn is interviewing with the Browns, and the Vikings have asked permission to speak with him regarding their open position.
biju
Footballguy
proninja
Footballguy
proninja
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Hooper31
Footballguy
I don't think I agree here. It takes a lot of discipline to keep calling running plays. Bevel has that discipline and I would prefer he stays.
proninja
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
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seahawk 17
Footballguy
Seattle is #4 in the league in rushing, but there are some major flaws with the offense right now. Bevell's play calling is way to predictable and the O-line is getting blown up because of it, RW has no time to throw, and the WR's don't have time to get open. Prime example is his constant empty back sets on third down. We're obviously passing and it's killing us. 37% 3rd down conversion for the season, 4/13 yesterday. Also, his in game adjustments are horrible. (See AZ game.)
#4 in the league we should be using PA all day, especially on 3rd down. Maybe it's Pete, or the O-line is crap but we are very vanilla and if the defense has a game where it falters, we're in big trouble.
But I probably shouldn't ##### when we are the #1 seed and finished 12-3....
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Seahawks are the best. They just have to keep their heads on straight for another month and they should win it. The also need Sherman and Wilson to stay healthy.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I've not been a Bevell fan at all but I've been holding out on my desire to chant for his absence until I see what he does with Harvin. The jury, for me, is still out but I lean with the naysayers. Any scheme that relies on the QB to make incredible plays with his feet to scramble someone open is not exactly a stable touch. There've been more than a few games where is vanilla passing trees were constantly swamped by average defenses.
I also just found out that I missed out on sacking him by one year in HS. His dad was still the coach though when we played them my senior year.
I also just found out that I missed out on sacking him by one year in HS. His dad was still the coach though when we played them my senior year.
biju
Footballguy
I think Bevell is very under-appreciated in Seattle. His plays all work off each other in a way few coordinators can imagine. I've learned that if a play looks crappy it is often setting something else up. He's very patient and you don't see our offense scrambling to find something that works early in games. I honestly think there's a reason why we seem to have great adjustments at half, and that reason is the playcalling that sets up the rest of the game.
I could be wrong, but who is out there we are pining to get?
proninja
Footballguy
This may offend a few people in here, but the fact that fans lament the playcalling is pretty dumb. The guy calling the plays is a lot smarter, knows what he wants to do, and has a better idea of what the defense is looking to do. On an island some plays are annoying (The Holmgren 3rd and long draw, for example), but there's no such thing as a perfect play caller when you play defenses like the Seahawks played this year.
None of us are as smart as Bevell.
MattFancy
Footballguy
Was coming in here to get an opinion on Bevell, but it looks like it's already laid out here haha.
I really like Bevell from what I've seen of the Seahawks. He has done a good job there with no real threats at WR and a young QB. For me at least, we could mirror your offense. RG3 and Wilson are pretty much the same. Morris is built like Lynch, both bruising RBs that gain alot of yards after contact. Garcon is a solid WR and Trent Williams is one of the better LTs in the league. I'm certainly intrigued with the idea of Bevell coming to DC.
I really like Bevell from what I've seen of the Seahawks. He has done a good job there with no real threats at WR and a young QB. For me at least, we could mirror your offense. RG3 and Wilson are pretty much the same. Morris is built like Lynch, both bruising RBs that gain alot of yards after contact. Garcon is a solid WR and Trent Williams is one of the better LTs in the league. I'm certainly intrigued with the idea of Bevell coming to DC.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I disagree. I think that RG3 is more of a runner and Wilson is more of a pocket passer with great scrambling abilities.MattFancy said:
Wilson is great at going through progressions and scrambling to buy time.
I think RG3 needs to use his legs more to have success. He has explosive speed and they need to utilize his speed.
I think Wilson is extremely more mature than RG3 and this makes for a better leader.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I like how I have an opinion and back it up with examples of why I feel that way, everybody else is just talky talky talky (Adam Sandler Voice)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Never thought much of him in Minnesota. But I think he has done quite well there in Seattle.
Maybe it was getting away from being under Childress that helped him...
CapnJB
Footballguy
Well, one thing that Russell Wilson and Robert Griffin have in common is that neither of them are playing this weekend.
Hooper31
Footballguy
In the grand scheme I think Bevell can be easily replaced, but replacing Cable might be much harder. The offense line has played with a more aggressive attitude that can be credited to his influence. I've lost count of the number of times that Sweezy and Giacomini have hustled to push the pile while Lynch has keept his feet under him. Would we lose that if Cable was to leave?
biju
Footballguy
While I might not necessarily say "easy" I do think there are serviceable replacements and there is always a lot of creative people for OC. Cable leaving is tough. People have gotten down on him because our O-line isn't top-notch but he's working with a lot of scrap-heap players and dealt with a ton of injuries while maintaining a decent O-line.
My only hope is that since Washington is Cable's home he may just figure to stay instead of chase another HC job.
I'm surprised by the amount of interest in Quinn. I mean, I think he's done great and clearly the D-line is significantly better this year that the past. But he's really only done it for one year and it was heavily influenced by Carroll and his predecessor. Bevell, on the other hand, has been the man for the offense--I get him being interviewed.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I don't want to lose Cable...he brings an attitude that I was seeking on this team for 30 years.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
http://seattletimes.com/html/jerrybrewer/2022570492_brewer01xml.html
I have always wanted a team like this. Such a difference from the Holmgren hawk teams.
Great article and it really explains why a lot of you act the way you do.......paints a good picture for the Seattle outsiders here. Funny thing is I know their "ego" deep down bothers a lot of hawk fans but they ignore it because they win.
I have always wanted a team like this. Such a difference from the Holmgren hawk teams.
Hooper31
Footballguy
NFL Films has put together a short on Phish and how Seattle fans have embraced the Wilson chant when Russell first hits the field each game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxz7sxj0BMg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxz7sxj0BMg
mad sweeney
Footballguy
You really are a completely oblivious twit.ImTheScientist said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Saints, 49ers, or Green Bay
12's....who are we playing next week? My guess is we play the Packers next week. I don't think the Saints can stop the Eagles run game, and I think the Packers win this one after losing the last 3 meetings to the 49ers.
12's....who are we playing next week? My guess is we play the Packers next week. I don't think the Saints can stop the Eagles run game, and I think the Packers win this one after losing the last 3 meetings to the 49ers.
biju
Footballguy
The chant is manufactured through the speaker system. There isn't a single person who does it in my entire section and my wife and I roll our eyes at each other when they try to do it. I wish they would stop.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Not completely true. I was there last week and people in my section were doing it. I actually like it, wish they would do it more often.
What about it would make you roll your eyes? Are you to good for it? Please explain.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Poor guy looks miserable answering questions.
seahawk 17
Footballguy
It's going to be NO. Eagles defense is horrible. Bree's and company finally win one on the road.
proninja
Footballguy
If NO loses, who do you want?
I'm almost tempted to root for the 49ers because their fans are less obnoxious than the packer fans on this board. A week of hearing about the fail Mary sounds bad.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Niners....I enjoy beating them more than the packers.proninja said:
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I am so torn. Both fan bases are obnoxious.proninja said:
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Saints it is. 
