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OFFICIAL 2013 Training Camp & Preseason: News & Tidbits Thread (1 Viewer)
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Redskins camp observations: Despite only one snap, RG3 still center stage
By Will Brinson | NFL Writer
July 26, 2013 9:00 am ET
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July 26, 2013 9:00 am ET
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When interviewed for a sports chat program ESPN reporter Tony Grossi echoed much of the above, he said the following:
- QB Brandon Weeden was throwing the ball well
- RB Trent Richardson not only showed up but the crowd was oohing and aaahing from plays he was making
- noted that rookie OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo was playing with the backups but was basically winning every snap when matched up against second stringers but added that:
- Starting OLB/DE Jabaal Sheard was the starter and he was looking good so if Mingo doesn't start it wasn't a reflection on him or his ability but the fact that two very good veteran players (Sheard and Paul Kruger) are entched as the starters right now
- Added that head coach Rob Chudzinski was fired up, running up and down in front of the crowd, pumping his fists, smiling and really truly excit. Grossi's dispoistion is usually dour but he said even he was loving Chud's enthusiasm.
- WR number changes. Josh Gordon swapped his 'un-lucky' #13 to the number he wore in college #12 and Greg Little sold his #15 to WR Davone Bess who wore that numeral at Miami and he will be wearing #18
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by Patricia Traina
http://insidefootball.com/blog/2013/07/training-camp-report-july-27-2013/
INJURY REPORT
No change to the PUP list – FB Henry Hynoski, DE Jason Pierre-Paul, RG Chris Snee, CB Terrell Thomas, and DT Markus Kuhn.
Hynoski is still walking around with a hinged knee brace, but it’s a promising sign that he was able to stand on the field for the entire duration of the practice.
Pierre-Paul, who estimated he’s at about 75% in his recovery, refused to say if he thought he’d be ready for Week 1 of the season, saying, “That’s everybody’s goal who is hurt. I don’t know. I can’t promise nothing. I can’t say I will be back for the season opener.” He did express hope that he would be able to get some training camp snaps though later this summer.
“I think it is very important,” he said. “Honestly I don’t feel a part of the team now with them being out there and doing all the work they are doing. I will be on the sideline like I said, through it all, I am trying to get myself better and healthier so I can be a part of the team and help my team out.”
Thomas? Coughlin admitted there was a little surprise and frustration that the cornerback, who is trying to return from a third ACL surgery, landed on PUP.
“He’s restricted in what he can do. We’re all frustrated about that. The sooner he can get out there, the better off we’ll all be. He came in fully feeling like he could start right out and practice and he just wasn’t able to do that right away. We’ll be patient, but know full well that we’ll be all excited the moment he gets a chance to come out and practice so we can get a sense of where he is and how he’s going to be.
And from today, receiver Jerrel Jernigan and center David Baas, both of whom didn’t take part in yesterday’s team conditioning drills, both worked, though Baas was limited. When he couldn’t go, it was Kevin Boothe in at center.
Meanwhile linebacker Aaron Curry, who’s hoping to revive his career with the Giants, left the field with what Coughlin said he thought was cramps.
LINEUP
The first-team offensive line had, from left to right, Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, James Brewer, and David Diehl. As I mentioned above, though, Baas didn’t take his full workload and Boothe moved over to center with the starters when Baas was out of the lineup.
The first-team defensive line was Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, and Mathias Kiwanuka. The second team defensive line saw Damontre Moore and Adrian Tracy at the ends, and Johnathan Hankins and Shaun Rogers in the middle.
The first-team linebackers were Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers. The second team linebackers were Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry.
Your starting defensive backfield was Corey Webster and Prince Amukamara at the corners, and Stevie Brown and Antrel Rolle at safety; the second-stringers were Trumaine McBride and Aaron Ross at corner, and Tyler Sash and Ryan Mundy at safety. (Cooper Taylor took a smidgen of snaps with the two’s at safety, but otherwise went with the third string.)
PRACTICE HIGHLIGHTS
Before I get started, I want to remind you that there are no padded practices until Tuesday. That’s a NFL rule as all teams must have a three-day acclimation period. So the contact today and in the next couple of practices is going to be limited until the real hitting can start.
* Eli Manning and Hakeem Nicks didn’t look like they missed a beat despite not getting many reps together over the spring. Eli wasn’t kidding yesterday when he said it probably wouldn’t take long for him and his receivers to get back on the same page.
* Speaking of receivers, Rueben Randle is still running as the third receiver, ahead of Louis Murphy, based on the receiver drills, at least. Remember, offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said after the minicamp that Randle was going to see a lot of action in the coming months, and so far, so good. Randle is running much crisper routes and looks extremely confident in what he’s doing out there.
* I’m starting to really like CB Trumaine McBride. He always seems to be in the right spot to break up a play and does a nice job of staying on the receivers’ hips. He broke up a pass intended for Brandon Collins, who was running a flag route.
* Prince Amukamara broke up a couple of deep balls and came up with the first interception of camp in a seven-on-seven drill.
* Corey Webster got into the act as far as breaking up deep balls, knocking away a pass intended for Rueben Randle. Webster looks faster and that confidence he didn’t always have last year seems to be back, so we’ll see how he does moving forward.
* Justin Pugh, who worked at right tackle with the second team, has good quickness and his footwork didn’t look to be too bad, but his pad level was another story as on a couple of snaps he was just too high and lost his leverage.
* DE Damontre Moore, working with the second team, has such a good burst of speed – he knifed into the backfield on two running plays like he had been shot out of a canon, and I think he would have blown up the plays had they been live drills.
* Nice job by Aaron Ross against Jerrel Jernigan in the slot to break up the pass. Jernigan tried to put a move on Ross to create separation, but Ross just wasn’t buying it. Ross also nearly had an interception on a pass intended for receiver Kevin Hardy.
* Ryan Nassib has a pretty strong arm, but he seems to throw a lot better while on the move than when he sets his feet, which seems to be unusual. He connected with receiver Kevin Hardy by chucking the ball despite having both feet up in the air. I’m not sure how successful he can be if he continues to throw like that, but I can’t imagine the coaches are going to not address that with him.
* Running back Michael Cox squirted through the hole for a nice run. He has a tremendous burst of speed on those outside runs. When he runs in between the tackles, there is a slight hesitation in his initial steps. The question is, can he pass block? That remains to be seen.
* If there was ever an underrated player on the defense, I’d have to give the nod to linebacker Spencer Paysinger. Paysinger took snaps with the starters at the weakside linebacker and at least twice he was in the backfield to blow up plays. He also covered tight end Brandon Myers well enough to cause Myers to drop a pass that hit him right in the numbers. Paysinger just seems to have a nose for the play and I think he could surprise more than a few people this summer.
* DE Justin Tuck was very active in the practice, directing teammates and leading, which is always nice to see. He also batted down a pass at the line of scrimmage.
* LB Kyle Bosworth, who came in for Aaron Curry when he left with cramps, nearly had a sack on a blitz up the middle. Bosworth showed a nice burst of speed and initial quickness off the snap, timing the play perfectly as he darted past Justin Pugh.
* I thought new fullback Ryan D’Imperio looked good as a receiver out of the backfield, showing nice soft hands. However, he’s here to block and he didn’t get to do all that much of that in this practice, so the jury is still out.
by Patricia Traina
http://insidefootball.com/blog/2013/07/training-camp-report-july-27-2013/
INJURY REPORT
No change to the PUP list – FB Henry Hynoski, DE Jason Pierre-Paul, RG Chris Snee, CB Terrell Thomas, and DT Markus Kuhn.
Hynoski is still walking around with a hinged knee brace, but it’s a promising sign that he was able to stand on the field for the entire duration of the practice.
Pierre-Paul, who estimated he’s at about 75% in his recovery, refused to say if he thought he’d be ready for Week 1 of the season, saying, “That’s everybody’s goal who is hurt. I don’t know. I can’t promise nothing. I can’t say I will be back for the season opener.” He did express hope that he would be able to get some training camp snaps though later this summer.
“I think it is very important,” he said. “Honestly I don’t feel a part of the team now with them being out there and doing all the work they are doing. I will be on the sideline like I said, through it all, I am trying to get myself better and healthier so I can be a part of the team and help my team out.”
Thomas? Coughlin admitted there was a little surprise and frustration that the cornerback, who is trying to return from a third ACL surgery, landed on PUP.
“He’s restricted in what he can do. We’re all frustrated about that. The sooner he can get out there, the better off we’ll all be. He came in fully feeling like he could start right out and practice and he just wasn’t able to do that right away. We’ll be patient, but know full well that we’ll be all excited the moment he gets a chance to come out and practice so we can get a sense of where he is and how he’s going to be.
And from today, receiver Jerrel Jernigan and center David Baas, both of whom didn’t take part in yesterday’s team conditioning drills, both worked, though Baas was limited. When he couldn’t go, it was Kevin Boothe in at center.
Meanwhile linebacker Aaron Curry, who’s hoping to revive his career with the Giants, left the field with what Coughlin said he thought was cramps.
LINEUP
The first-team offensive line had, from left to right, Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, James Brewer, and David Diehl. As I mentioned above, though, Baas didn’t take his full workload and Boothe moved over to center with the starters when Baas was out of the lineup.
The first-team defensive line was Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, and Mathias Kiwanuka. The second team defensive line saw Damontre Moore and Adrian Tracy at the ends, and Johnathan Hankins and Shaun Rogers in the middle.
The first-team linebackers were Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers. The second team linebackers were Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry.
Your starting defensive backfield was Corey Webster and Prince Amukamara at the corners, and Stevie Brown and Antrel Rolle at safety; the second-stringers were Trumaine McBride and Aaron Ross at corner, and Tyler Sash and Ryan Mundy at safety. (Cooper Taylor took a smidgen of snaps with the two’s at safety, but otherwise went with the third string.)
PRACTICE HIGHLIGHTS
Before I get started, I want to remind you that there are no padded practices until Tuesday. That’s a NFL rule as all teams must have a three-day acclimation period. So the contact today and in the next couple of practices is going to be limited until the real hitting can start.
* Eli Manning and Hakeem Nicks didn’t look like they missed a beat despite not getting many reps together over the spring. Eli wasn’t kidding yesterday when he said it probably wouldn’t take long for him and his receivers to get back on the same page.
* Speaking of receivers, Rueben Randle is still running as the third receiver, ahead of Louis Murphy, based on the receiver drills, at least. Remember, offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride said after the minicamp that Randle was going to see a lot of action in the coming months, and so far, so good. Randle is running much crisper routes and looks extremely confident in what he’s doing out there.
* I’m starting to really like CB Trumaine McBride. He always seems to be in the right spot to break up a play and does a nice job of staying on the receivers’ hips. He broke up a pass intended for Brandon Collins, who was running a flag route.
* Prince Amukamara broke up a couple of deep balls and came up with the first interception of camp in a seven-on-seven drill.
* Corey Webster got into the act as far as breaking up deep balls, knocking away a pass intended for Rueben Randle. Webster looks faster and that confidence he didn’t always have last year seems to be back, so we’ll see how he does moving forward.
* Justin Pugh, who worked at right tackle with the second team, has good quickness and his footwork didn’t look to be too bad, but his pad level was another story as on a couple of snaps he was just too high and lost his leverage.
* DE Damontre Moore, working with the second team, has such a good burst of speed – he knifed into the backfield on two running plays like he had been shot out of a canon, and I think he would have blown up the plays had they been live drills.
* Nice job by Aaron Ross against Jerrel Jernigan in the slot to break up the pass. Jernigan tried to put a move on Ross to create separation, but Ross just wasn’t buying it. Ross also nearly had an interception on a pass intended for receiver Kevin Hardy.
* Ryan Nassib has a pretty strong arm, but he seems to throw a lot better while on the move than when he sets his feet, which seems to be unusual. He connected with receiver Kevin Hardy by chucking the ball despite having both feet up in the air. I’m not sure how successful he can be if he continues to throw like that, but I can’t imagine the coaches are going to not address that with him.
* Running back Michael Cox squirted through the hole for a nice run. He has a tremendous burst of speed on those outside runs. When he runs in between the tackles, there is a slight hesitation in his initial steps. The question is, can he pass block? That remains to be seen.
* If there was ever an underrated player on the defense, I’d have to give the nod to linebacker Spencer Paysinger. Paysinger took snaps with the starters at the weakside linebacker and at least twice he was in the backfield to blow up plays. He also covered tight end Brandon Myers well enough to cause Myers to drop a pass that hit him right in the numbers. Paysinger just seems to have a nose for the play and I think he could surprise more than a few people this summer.
* DE Justin Tuck was very active in the practice, directing teammates and leading, which is always nice to see. He also batted down a pass at the line of scrimmage.
* LB Kyle Bosworth, who came in for Aaron Curry when he left with cramps, nearly had a sack on a blitz up the middle. Bosworth showed a nice burst of speed and initial quickness off the snap, timing the play perfectly as he darted past Justin Pugh.
* I thought new fullback Ryan D’Imperio looked good as a receiver out of the backfield, showing nice soft hands. However, he’s here to block and he didn’t get to do all that much of that in this practice, so the jury is still out.
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http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/2013/07/27/training-camp-report-august-27-2013/
BBI Giants Camp Report
When they ran drills passing, Hakeem and Victor were with the first group, obviously. Not much to say about Cruz and Nicks –we know what they are, and if anyone is worried about any lost time, don’t. You can see what they are talking about with Randle. Even during the season he looked off to me a year ago – especially his timing. It’s hard to comment on the timing from today, but he just looks crisper and more polished than a year ago. Murphy had a drop and may have had another later on (was hard to see if it was a drop or uncatchable as they were at the far field at the time) but I saw him make up for it with a good catch a bit later.
There wasn’t much I noticed beyond the first four except they had Barden in the very last group, even after camp fodder guys. I will say this of him, they guy is huge. It is a shame he never mastered the little things the team wanted in him because seeing up close you can see how easy throwing to such a big target makes on a QB. He caught the ball well today.
David Wilson can fly. And I don’t mean just running straight, I mean he zips around with a quickness that is just a different level. No one moves out there like he does. I wish I could have paid more attention to the RB rotation, but was distracted often. It did seem as though Wilson may be first one in ahead of Brown. I am still forming opinions on Michael Cox. He looks to have good size and enough speed. My initial impression was fairly favorable.
I was a little surprised at the number of reps for Ryan Nassib. Maybe I shouldn’t be, but it did seem like he was getting a bit more than I would have expected. I wonder if they are not serious about giving him a shot to compete for the back up job in hopes of freeing a roster spot. I thought he looked pretty good and decent zip.
Specials were done on the far field and very hard for me to see. I saw Wilson take punts and KR. I saw Hosley return a punt and looked very quick.
That is mostly it. Unfortunately there was very little on the defensive side I could see well enough to comment on as they worked on the far field. This was also the case for team drills.
BBI Giants Camp Report
When they ran drills passing, Hakeem and Victor were with the first group, obviously. Not much to say about Cruz and Nicks –we know what they are, and if anyone is worried about any lost time, don’t. You can see what they are talking about with Randle. Even during the season he looked off to me a year ago – especially his timing. It’s hard to comment on the timing from today, but he just looks crisper and more polished than a year ago. Murphy had a drop and may have had another later on (was hard to see if it was a drop or uncatchable as they were at the far field at the time) but I saw him make up for it with a good catch a bit later.
There wasn’t much I noticed beyond the first four except they had Barden in the very last group, even after camp fodder guys. I will say this of him, they guy is huge. It is a shame he never mastered the little things the team wanted in him because seeing up close you can see how easy throwing to such a big target makes on a QB. He caught the ball well today.
David Wilson can fly. And I don’t mean just running straight, I mean he zips around with a quickness that is just a different level. No one moves out there like he does. I wish I could have paid more attention to the RB rotation, but was distracted often. It did seem as though Wilson may be first one in ahead of Brown. I am still forming opinions on Michael Cox. He looks to have good size and enough speed. My initial impression was fairly favorable.
I was a little surprised at the number of reps for Ryan Nassib. Maybe I shouldn’t be, but it did seem like he was getting a bit more than I would have expected. I wonder if they are not serious about giving him a shot to compete for the back up job in hopes of freeing a roster spot. I thought he looked pretty good and decent zip.
Specials were done on the far field and very hard for me to see. I saw Wilson take punts and KR. I saw Hosley return a punt and looked very quick.
That is mostly it. Unfortunately there was very little on the defensive side I could see well enough to comment on as they worked on the far field. This was also the case for team drills.
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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_training_camp_notes_observations_from_day_1.html
Star Ledger Giants Camp Report by Connor Orr
Before practice, Aaron Curry said that he wasn't going to get anywhere in this linebacker competition without having some fun.
During the 7-on-7 and team sessions where we got to see him, that was definitely the case. For his size, he's moving quite well and was all over the field. The highlight was an out pass to Chase Clement near the sideline (it looked like the ball was going out of bounds anyway) that Curry dove for to swat away. He got up a little slowly, and eventually walked off the field. Tom Coughlin said it was a cramp. We'll see just how bad it was tomorrow; it didn't look like a serious limp.
+ Here were your defensive starters for the "team portion" on Day 1: Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, Mathais Kiwanuka, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich, Keith Rivers, Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Prince Amukamara and Corey Webster. Curry and Dan Conner were in with the second-string linebackers.
+ On offense, the starters were as follows: Eli Manning, Brandon Myers, Bear Pascoe, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, David Diehl, James Brewer, David Baas*, Kevin Boothe and Will Beatty.
Baas was limited, though. Boothe also played some center with Capers coming in at guard.
Obviously, that's without Chris Snee, who said today that he'll absolutely be around for training camp. Justin Pugh was on the second string offensive line and worked a little at both tackle spots.
From left to right, the second string offensive line looked like this: (LT) Chris DeGeare, (LG) Selvish Capers, © Jim Cordle, (RG) Brandon Mosley, (RT) Justin Pugh.
+ Cruz and Manning seemed to pick right up where they left off. The same can be said for Manning and Nicks, who, after a little bit of time during positional drills, picked it up during the teams session for a few nice connections. The highlight there was a grab on the near sideline over Amukamara. He got both feet in, but credit to Amukamara who wasn't playing him soft at all.
+ Speaking of Amukamara, he had a pick on Manning today during 7-on-7. Manning let one go deep to Rueben Randle down the left side and Amukamara made a nice play, shielding Randle while he ran ahead to grab the ball. When the ball was in the air, it sounded like secondary coach Peter Giunta was screaming for Amukamara to make a play.
+ Since I was still covering the Jets during OTA's and minicamp, I got my first real look at Ryan Nassib this summer. I covered Nassib in college for a year (he was a freshman competing with Greg Paulus for a starting job then) and it's impressive to see how far he's come along.
Nassib was not afraid to go deep during 7-on-7s or the full team practice. He looks especially strong rolling out. He also handled two broken plays pretty nicely (one was a check down and the other was a connection with Brandon Collins on the sideline. We saw one fumbled snap from Nassib's unit and one false start, which, for the first day, isn't bad at all.
+ Louis Murphy was everywhere today. We saw him a lot with the first string.
+ Larry Donnell and Adrien Robinson looked like the second string tight ends and ran at least a few plays out of a double-tight set. That's a lot of size on the field.
+ Among those returning kicks/punts: David Wilson, Victor Cruz, Aaron Ross, Rueben Randle and Jerrel Jernigan.
Some other quick hits:
Trumaine McBride went up strong and broke up a pass intended for Brandon Collins.
The first-string offense did a two-minute-type drill at the end of practice. The first play was the Nicks catch over Amukamara on the sideline. Manning than hit Cruz twice in a row. Coughlin said his defense was a little ahead of the offense, but the offense seemed to move pretty well there.
Star Ledger Giants Camp Report by Connor Orr
Before practice, Aaron Curry said that he wasn't going to get anywhere in this linebacker competition without having some fun.
During the 7-on-7 and team sessions where we got to see him, that was definitely the case. For his size, he's moving quite well and was all over the field. The highlight was an out pass to Chase Clement near the sideline (it looked like the ball was going out of bounds anyway) that Curry dove for to swat away. He got up a little slowly, and eventually walked off the field. Tom Coughlin said it was a cramp. We'll see just how bad it was tomorrow; it didn't look like a serious limp.
+ Here were your defensive starters for the "team portion" on Day 1: Justin Tuck, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, Mathais Kiwanuka, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich, Keith Rivers, Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Prince Amukamara and Corey Webster. Curry and Dan Conner were in with the second-string linebackers.
+ On offense, the starters were as follows: Eli Manning, Brandon Myers, Bear Pascoe, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, David Diehl, James Brewer, David Baas*, Kevin Boothe and Will Beatty.
Baas was limited, though. Boothe also played some center with Capers coming in at guard.
Obviously, that's without Chris Snee, who said today that he'll absolutely be around for training camp. Justin Pugh was on the second string offensive line and worked a little at both tackle spots.
From left to right, the second string offensive line looked like this: (LT) Chris DeGeare, (LG) Selvish Capers, © Jim Cordle, (RG) Brandon Mosley, (RT) Justin Pugh.
+ Cruz and Manning seemed to pick right up where they left off. The same can be said for Manning and Nicks, who, after a little bit of time during positional drills, picked it up during the teams session for a few nice connections. The highlight there was a grab on the near sideline over Amukamara. He got both feet in, but credit to Amukamara who wasn't playing him soft at all.
+ Speaking of Amukamara, he had a pick on Manning today during 7-on-7. Manning let one go deep to Rueben Randle down the left side and Amukamara made a nice play, shielding Randle while he ran ahead to grab the ball. When the ball was in the air, it sounded like secondary coach Peter Giunta was screaming for Amukamara to make a play.
+ Since I was still covering the Jets during OTA's and minicamp, I got my first real look at Ryan Nassib this summer. I covered Nassib in college for a year (he was a freshman competing with Greg Paulus for a starting job then) and it's impressive to see how far he's come along.
Nassib was not afraid to go deep during 7-on-7s or the full team practice. He looks especially strong rolling out. He also handled two broken plays pretty nicely (one was a check down and the other was a connection with Brandon Collins on the sideline. We saw one fumbled snap from Nassib's unit and one false start, which, for the first day, isn't bad at all.
+ Louis Murphy was everywhere today. We saw him a lot with the first string.
+ Larry Donnell and Adrien Robinson looked like the second string tight ends and ran at least a few plays out of a double-tight set. That's a lot of size on the field.
+ Among those returning kicks/punts: David Wilson, Victor Cruz, Aaron Ross, Rueben Randle and Jerrel Jernigan.
Some other quick hits:
Trumaine McBride went up strong and broke up a pass intended for Brandon Collins.
The first-string offense did a two-minute-type drill at the end of practice. The first play was the Nicks catch over Amukamara on the sideline. Manning than hit Cruz twice in a row. Coughlin said his defense was a little ahead of the offense, but the offense seemed to move pretty well there.
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NY Post Giants Camp Report by Paul Schwartz
Nicks makes some plays in first Giants training camp practiceEveryone wanted to take a look how Hakeem Nicks was running, how he was cutting and how his physical status was as he took the field Saturday for the Giants first training camp practice. After all, Nicks did not participate in any of the team’s organized team activity workouts this spring and didn’t go full speed at the June mini-camp.
Well, Nicks looked just fine. Tom Coughlin made sure to comment about a couple of plays Nicks made that caught his attention and it does not appear as if Nicks has any restrictions after struggling last season with foot and then knee issues.
In a 7-on-7 drill, Nicks and Eli Manning failed to connect on a deep ball but in the two-minute drill late in practice Nicks like his old self. He straddled the left sideline, leaped and hauled in a Manning pass, a play reminiscent of so many Nicks highlights over the years.
It was not all fun and games for the receivers, as Coughlin noted “Defensively they covered the deep ball well. I thought the throws were pretty darn good, I like the way we were positioned from the corner spot on the deep balls.’’
CB Prince Amukamara came away with the first interception of camp, making an over-the-shoulder grab on a Manning pass too deep for Rueben Randle.
CB Aaron Ross, back after one year with the Jaguars, broke up a David Carr pass intended for WR Kevin Hardy and Ross a bit later deflected away a pass for WR Kris Adams.
Other practice notables:
-- The starting linebackers were Keith Rivers, Mark Herzlich and Spencer Paysinger, which came as no surprise, as all three return from last season. The second-term linebackers were Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry.
Paysinger in a 7-on-7 drill displayed one of his strengths, dropping on coverage to knock away a pass in the hands of TE Brandon Myers.
Coughlin said he cannot remember a camp where the linebacker position was so open. “Steady, consistent, no mental errors, tackle, tackle opportunities do that successfully, be in the right position against the pass,’’ Coughlin said when asked what he’s looking for from the linebacker candidates. Curry, who is down to 250 pounds – down 15 pounds from when he signed in the spring – had to leave the field because of what Coughlin said were cramps.
-- David Diehl lined up with the starters at right tackle and James Brewer took the place of Chris Snee (PUP) at right guard. First-round pick Justin Pugh played right tackle with the second offensive line.
Snee is coming back from off-season hip surgery and said he wasn’t shocked he landed on PUP. “I knew the timeline would be close, that’s why you always set your goal tentatively for the start of camp,’’ Snee said. “I’m not 100 percent so why rush back?’’
-- Rueben Randle looks as if he is ready to make a quantum leap forward. The Giants love his ability but did not always love his practice habits or his sense of urgency. He looks as if he has shaken off any rookie lethargy and was one of the top performers on the first day of camp.
NY Post Giants Camp Report by Paul Schwartz
Nicks makes some plays in first Giants training camp practiceEveryone wanted to take a look how Hakeem Nicks was running, how he was cutting and how his physical status was as he took the field Saturday for the Giants first training camp practice. After all, Nicks did not participate in any of the team’s organized team activity workouts this spring and didn’t go full speed at the June mini-camp.
Well, Nicks looked just fine. Tom Coughlin made sure to comment about a couple of plays Nicks made that caught his attention and it does not appear as if Nicks has any restrictions after struggling last season with foot and then knee issues.
In a 7-on-7 drill, Nicks and Eli Manning failed to connect on a deep ball but in the two-minute drill late in practice Nicks like his old self. He straddled the left sideline, leaped and hauled in a Manning pass, a play reminiscent of so many Nicks highlights over the years.
It was not all fun and games for the receivers, as Coughlin noted “Defensively they covered the deep ball well. I thought the throws were pretty darn good, I like the way we were positioned from the corner spot on the deep balls.’’
CB Prince Amukamara came away with the first interception of camp, making an over-the-shoulder grab on a Manning pass too deep for Rueben Randle.
CB Aaron Ross, back after one year with the Jaguars, broke up a David Carr pass intended for WR Kevin Hardy and Ross a bit later deflected away a pass for WR Kris Adams.
Other practice notables:
-- The starting linebackers were Keith Rivers, Mark Herzlich and Spencer Paysinger, which came as no surprise, as all three return from last season. The second-term linebackers were Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry.
Paysinger in a 7-on-7 drill displayed one of his strengths, dropping on coverage to knock away a pass in the hands of TE Brandon Myers.
Coughlin said he cannot remember a camp where the linebacker position was so open. “Steady, consistent, no mental errors, tackle, tackle opportunities do that successfully, be in the right position against the pass,’’ Coughlin said when asked what he’s looking for from the linebacker candidates. Curry, who is down to 250 pounds – down 15 pounds from when he signed in the spring – had to leave the field because of what Coughlin said were cramps.
-- David Diehl lined up with the starters at right tackle and James Brewer took the place of Chris Snee (PUP) at right guard. First-round pick Justin Pugh played right tackle with the second offensive line.
Snee is coming back from off-season hip surgery and said he wasn’t shocked he landed on PUP. “I knew the timeline would be close, that’s why you always set your goal tentatively for the start of camp,’’ Snee said. “I’m not 100 percent so why rush back?’’
-- Rueben Randle looks as if he is ready to make a quantum leap forward. The Giants love his ability but did not always love his practice habits or his sense of urgency. He looks as if he has shaken off any rookie lethargy and was one of the top performers on the first day of camp.
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Thank you for all your posts. I'll do my best to help cover one of the 32 teams during camp.
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Practice report: Giants go deep
Saturday July 27, 2013 6:26 PM By Tom Rock
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/t-rock-s-take-on-the-giants-1.811990/practice-report-giants-go-deep-1.5781621
The first team offensive line had Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, James Brewer and David Diehl going left to right. Brewer was in there in place of Snee. Diehl got the first day’s first-team reps with first-round pick Justin Pugh beginning his career with the second team. The rest of the starting offense included Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz at receiver, Brandon Myers at tight end, Bear Pascoe at h-back and David Wilson at running back.
The first defensive unit had Mathias Kiwanuka, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins and Justin Tuck up front, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers at linebacker, Corey Webster and Prince Amukamara at corner, and Antrel Rolle and Stevie Brown at safety. The second unit for the defense was Adrian Tracy, Jonathan Hankins, Shaun Rogers and Damontre Moore up front, Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry at linebacker (although Kyle Bosworth stepped in for Curry later in practice after Curry left with a cramp), Aaron Ross and Trumaine McBride at corner and Tyler Sash and Ryan Mundy at safety.
The Giants were trying to air it out on the first day of practice. They just weren’t very good at it. I counted six deep passes in 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills and none of them were completed.
“I thought the throws were pretty darn good,” Coughlin said. “I liked the way we were positioned from the corner spot.” Prince Amukamara made the best play on the deep ball, catching a pass from Eli Manning over his shoulder for an interception. It was intended for Rueben Randle. Aaron Ross nearly picked off one from Carr for Kevin Hardy down the right sideline and Corey Webster had tight coverage on Kris Adams on a deep one from Manning a few snaps earlier.
The Giants had Randle, David Wilson, Jerrel Jernigan, Victor Cruz and Aaron Ross returning punts against the coverage team. Ross and Cruz each muffed one.
A few random observations: Rookie Ryan Nassib, who took snaps with the third-string, looked more comfortable throwing on the run than he did while settled in the pocket. He made a nice toss across his body early in practice and then made a good move to the outside to buy time before completing a pass to Brandon Collins a few snaps later.
I thought Aaron Ross had one of the better practices I’ve ever seen him have, and that goes back to his first go-around with he Giants. He was very active and batted down a few passes. The Giants may have to rely on him and he appears to be ready.
Pugh was a shade late popping out to stop a blitzing Kyle Bosworth on the outside in 11-on-11s. That’s fine. It’s his first real NFL practice. But if that happens in a game, of course, I can’t be responsible for the number of short arm Tweets that I’ll unleash.
Speaking of Bosworth, he was playing on the first unit on special teams. He could find a spot on the 53 through that route.
I don’t know how much weight to put into these types of things, but it was interesting that during receiver drills one of the last players to go during route running and such was Ramses Barden. Does that reflect on his place in the depth chart or was he just being polite and letting others go first?
The almost-great catch of the day was by Kris Adams, who juggled a pass from Eli Manning and batted it in the air about four times before it fell to the ground incomplete during early drills without any defense.
I was very impressed by Michael Cox, the rookie running back. He showed moves like David Wilson flashed a year ago (although not quite as quick and elusive). The Giants vets tried to break Wilson of those habits in practice last year. Wonder if now Wilson will do the same for Cox.
Saturday July 27, 2013 6:26 PM By Tom Rock
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/t-rock-s-take-on-the-giants-1.811990/practice-report-giants-go-deep-1.5781621
The first team offensive line had Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, James Brewer and David Diehl going left to right. Brewer was in there in place of Snee. Diehl got the first day’s first-team reps with first-round pick Justin Pugh beginning his career with the second team. The rest of the starting offense included Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz at receiver, Brandon Myers at tight end, Bear Pascoe at h-back and David Wilson at running back.
The first defensive unit had Mathias Kiwanuka, Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins and Justin Tuck up front, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers at linebacker, Corey Webster and Prince Amukamara at corner, and Antrel Rolle and Stevie Brown at safety. The second unit for the defense was Adrian Tracy, Jonathan Hankins, Shaun Rogers and Damontre Moore up front, Jacquian Williams, Dan Connor and Aaron Curry at linebacker (although Kyle Bosworth stepped in for Curry later in practice after Curry left with a cramp), Aaron Ross and Trumaine McBride at corner and Tyler Sash and Ryan Mundy at safety.
The Giants were trying to air it out on the first day of practice. They just weren’t very good at it. I counted six deep passes in 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills and none of them were completed.
“I thought the throws were pretty darn good,” Coughlin said. “I liked the way we were positioned from the corner spot.” Prince Amukamara made the best play on the deep ball, catching a pass from Eli Manning over his shoulder for an interception. It was intended for Rueben Randle. Aaron Ross nearly picked off one from Carr for Kevin Hardy down the right sideline and Corey Webster had tight coverage on Kris Adams on a deep one from Manning a few snaps earlier.
The Giants had Randle, David Wilson, Jerrel Jernigan, Victor Cruz and Aaron Ross returning punts against the coverage team. Ross and Cruz each muffed one.
A few random observations: Rookie Ryan Nassib, who took snaps with the third-string, looked more comfortable throwing on the run than he did while settled in the pocket. He made a nice toss across his body early in practice and then made a good move to the outside to buy time before completing a pass to Brandon Collins a few snaps later.
I thought Aaron Ross had one of the better practices I’ve ever seen him have, and that goes back to his first go-around with he Giants. He was very active and batted down a few passes. The Giants may have to rely on him and he appears to be ready.
Pugh was a shade late popping out to stop a blitzing Kyle Bosworth on the outside in 11-on-11s. That’s fine. It’s his first real NFL practice. But if that happens in a game, of course, I can’t be responsible for the number of short arm Tweets that I’ll unleash.
Speaking of Bosworth, he was playing on the first unit on special teams. He could find a spot on the 53 through that route.
I don’t know how much weight to put into these types of things, but it was interesting that during receiver drills one of the last players to go during route running and such was Ramses Barden. Does that reflect on his place in the depth chart or was he just being polite and letting others go first?
The almost-great catch of the day was by Kris Adams, who juggled a pass from Eli Manning and batted it in the air about four times before it fell to the ground incomplete during early drills without any defense.
I was very impressed by Michael Cox, the rookie running back. He showed moves like David Wilson flashed a year ago (although not quite as quick and elusive). The Giants vets tried to break Wilson of those habits in practice last year. Wonder if now Wilson will do the same for Cox.
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http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Top-Five-Plays-from-Practice/3dfad921-2da6-455b-9704-d7f8fbecbf57
link to Giants.com Top 5 Plays from Practice
link to Giants.com Top 5 Plays from Practice
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http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/7/27/4563610/giants-day-1-practice-report-defense-ahead-of-offense-practice-report
Ed Valentine of Big Blue View
Interestingly, defensive ends Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka seemed to flip-flop from side to side based on the defensive call. Tuck, a left end his entire career, spent most of his time on the right side of the defense.
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189 days till the SB is played in NY. Jerry Reese put a countdown clock in the locker room in the hopes of creating a sense of urgency.
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Interestingly, defensive ends Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka seemed to flip-flop from side to side based on the defensive call. Tuck, a left end his entire career, spent most of his time on the right side of the defense.
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Giants training camp: Notes, observations from Day 2
A scheduling note first: The first full padded practice will be Thursday. Shells again tomorrow. Plan is to do a day of shoulder pads first and ease the players into the full pads.
We led off the practice report yesterday by talking about Aaron Curry, who had a strong opening day but ended up leaving practice early to address some cramps.
Curry was out there today and finished the entire practice without any difficulty. He's still taking reps with the second group alongside Dan Connor while Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers take snaps with the first-string.
Moving along...
Today was the first time we got to see 1 on 1's between the wide receivers/tight ends and the secondary.
The highlight was pretty simple: Hakeem Nicks went on a fly down the right sideline (David Carr was throwing) and caught a ball over Corey Webster. He proceeded to high-step into the end zone afterward. Nicks had to like that it was right along side the bleachers.
It's unclear whether Nicks pulled the groin on that play or not. Team drills were soon after and that's when he began sitting out.
Some other good matchups from the 1 on 1's:
Before the Nicks matchup, Webster handled Jeremy Horne pretty well, logging the first pass breakup of the drill. Louis Murphy had a pair of nice catches, one against Laron Scott and another on an in route against Trumaine McBride.
Rueben Randle went deep on Terrence Frederick. After practice, Tom Coughlin talked about how Randle came in lighter, which contributed to a strong start.
"I've seen some good things out of Rueben," Coughlin said. "Hopefully he'll keep it up. His Spring was better. He came back lighter. He looks good, he seems to be more serious, more intense. He had a lot to learn that first year and some of the messages are getting through."
Also, a great double-move by tight end Chase Clement, who had Eli Manning throwing to him on that particular rep.
+ We haven't seen much from Marvin Austin (The pads haven't come on yet, not surprising) but watching him move in a strip-sack drill with the other defensive linemen was impressive.
+ Steve Weatherford threw a pass during a fake field goal. The spiral wasn't there but the touch certainly was. Completed the pass to Adrien Robinson. Had it been a fourth-and-4, a definite first down.
+ Speaking of Robinson, he continues to impress in the open field. The size and athleticism are certainly there. Although the drill is a little unfair to the linebackers, seeing him work against Jacquian Williams you can tell how much he's improved as a route-runner.
+ David Baas did the same thing as yesterday, taking a few reps at center before giving way to Kevin Boothe and Selvish Capers at guard.
Capers pulled on his first play (again, no pads) and stuck a nice block that extended the run about 10 yards.
+ Ryan Nassib joined the interception club today. Jake Muasau jumped a route and took it all the way back for a touchdown. It's fun to watch Nassib, though, who seems to be his own biggest critic. He's analyzing a play on his way back to the huddle.
+ Herzlich showed up in coverage a few times today, knocking down one pass intended for Brandon Myers during 11-on-11.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_training_camp_notes_observations_from_day_2.html
A scheduling note first: The first full padded practice will be Thursday. Shells again tomorrow. Plan is to do a day of shoulder pads first and ease the players into the full pads.
We led off the practice report yesterday by talking about Aaron Curry, who had a strong opening day but ended up leaving practice early to address some cramps.
Curry was out there today and finished the entire practice without any difficulty. He's still taking reps with the second group alongside Dan Connor while Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich and Keith Rivers take snaps with the first-string.
Moving along...
Today was the first time we got to see 1 on 1's between the wide receivers/tight ends and the secondary.
The highlight was pretty simple: Hakeem Nicks went on a fly down the right sideline (David Carr was throwing) and caught a ball over Corey Webster. He proceeded to high-step into the end zone afterward. Nicks had to like that it was right along side the bleachers.
It's unclear whether Nicks pulled the groin on that play or not. Team drills were soon after and that's when he began sitting out.
Some other good matchups from the 1 on 1's:
Before the Nicks matchup, Webster handled Jeremy Horne pretty well, logging the first pass breakup of the drill. Louis Murphy had a pair of nice catches, one against Laron Scott and another on an in route against Trumaine McBride.
Rueben Randle went deep on Terrence Frederick. After practice, Tom Coughlin talked about how Randle came in lighter, which contributed to a strong start.
"I've seen some good things out of Rueben," Coughlin said. "Hopefully he'll keep it up. His Spring was better. He came back lighter. He looks good, he seems to be more serious, more intense. He had a lot to learn that first year and some of the messages are getting through."
Also, a great double-move by tight end Chase Clement, who had Eli Manning throwing to him on that particular rep.
+ We haven't seen much from Marvin Austin (The pads haven't come on yet, not surprising) but watching him move in a strip-sack drill with the other defensive linemen was impressive.
+ Steve Weatherford threw a pass during a fake field goal. The spiral wasn't there but the touch certainly was. Completed the pass to Adrien Robinson. Had it been a fourth-and-4, a definite first down.
+ Speaking of Robinson, he continues to impress in the open field. The size and athleticism are certainly there. Although the drill is a little unfair to the linebackers, seeing him work against Jacquian Williams you can tell how much he's improved as a route-runner.
+ David Baas did the same thing as yesterday, taking a few reps at center before giving way to Kevin Boothe and Selvish Capers at guard.
Capers pulled on his first play (again, no pads) and stuck a nice block that extended the run about 10 yards.
+ Ryan Nassib joined the interception club today. Jake Muasau jumped a route and took it all the way back for a touchdown. It's fun to watch Nassib, though, who seems to be his own biggest critic. He's analyzing a play on his way back to the huddle.
+ Herzlich showed up in coverage a few times today, knocking down one pass intended for Brandon Myers during 11-on-11.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_training_camp_notes_observations_from_day_2.html
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Arizona Cardinals running back Ryan Williams forced to leave practice
By Bob McManaman
azcentral sports
Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:44 PM
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The Day at Camp: July 28, 2013
http://insidefootball.com/blog/2013/07/the-day-at-camp-july-28-2013/
Consistency. As defined by Dictionary.com, it means “steadfast adherence to the same principles, course, form, etc.;” “agreement, harmony, or compatibility, especially correspondence or uniformity among the parts of a complex thing;” and “the condition of cohering or holding together and retaining form; solidity or firmness.”
Whatever definition you prefer, ‘consistency’ is a word that just wasn’t applicable to the New York Giants defense last year. And that has been one of the goals of everyone from the front office to the coaches right on down to the players in this training camp, to become more consistent.
Head coach Tom Coughlin, who has used that word a lot, was asked for his definition as it applies to the defense.
“Fifty-two points, zero the next week. Just a consistent championship level of play from all aspects.”
It’s still early in camp, but so far the changes made on defense seem to be paying off. The energy is better than it was a year ago. There is more fight from the players to get into the backfield to blow up plays, to limit yards after the catch, and to break up passes.
There is better communication – safety Stevie Brown told me today that communication issues in the defensive secondary where an idea was expressed but that not everyone interpreted it the same way, was a problem that they have made a conscious effort to correct this year.
And so far Coughlin, who when asked what identity he’d like for his defense to have this year said he was looking for it to be physical, seems to be pleased with the direction the defense is taking in these early days of camp.
“You have to get an identity. You have to represent something,” he said. “You have to be there week in and week out. You have to have that kind of consistency and you have to control the line of scrimmage. You have to stop the run first before you can rush the pass and we’re capable of both, but we’re certainly going to get tested in both areas.”
He’s also been pleased with the play of the cornerbacks, a unit that was initially thought to be a weakness but one which has so far, as a collective group, had a strong showing in these first two days of camp.
“I’m excited to see this camp evolve in that area,” Coughlin said. “We’re looking for improvement in our secondary play overall. It’s early, so we’ll see.”
It is early, but the promise is certainly there. Can they do it every week? That will be the real test, and that could be the difference between taking a step closer to playing in February across the parking lot in their home building, or watching that game from their homes.
INJURY REPORT
Besides the five on PUP – FB Henry Hynoski, DE Jason Pierre-Paul, RG Chris Snee, CB Terrell Thomas, and DT Markus Kuhn – the only other injuries to speak of were to safety Tyler Sash (cramps), who went down on one of the very last drills of the practice and had to be carted off, and receiver Hakeem Nicks, who after the one-on-one drills was pulled from the practice as a precautionary after experiencing tightness in his groin area.
Linebacker Aaron Curry, who left yesterday’s practice with cramps, was back on the field looking no worse for the wear.
Center David Baas, who today assured reporters that he would be full go by the start of the season, continues to be limited. When Baas is out of the lineup, Kevin Boothe moves over to center and Selvish Capers moves in at left guard.
LINEUPS
With the team working on kickoff returns, here’s what I was able to take away as far as lineups. When David Wilson returned kickoffs, his nearest guys were Ryan Torain, Justin Pugh, and Adrien Robinson.
When Jerrel Jernigan took his turn returning kickoffs, Da’Rel Scott was back there with him, the “wedge” guys being Johnathan Hankins and Brandon Myers.
Michael Cox also got a chance to return a kickoff, but I unfortunately didn’t notice the guys nearest him.
PRACTICE HIGHLIGHTS
The Giants managed to get their entire practice in outside on this, Autograph Day, much to the delight of the fans in attendance, many of whom started lining up around 11 this morning to get good seats. While at one point there was a threat of rain, it only ended up to be a light drizzle which went away before the clouds yielded to the sun.
* The Giants re-introduced one-on-one drills today in which the receivers went against the defensive backs. The highlight of that drill set was a gorgeous tightrope catch by Nicks, who after making the reception, high stepped it for show since it was made in front of the fans. I can’t say for sure if that’s when he started having issues with his groin, but after that series, Nicks wasn’t seen in the practice again.
* TE Adrien Robinson had a nice showing as a receiver. He caught every ball his way, including a couple in which the quarterback put the pigskin where only Robinson could get it. Robinson was also the recipient of a touchdown pass on a fake field goal attempt, as he beat Linval Joseph to the end zone with ease.
* OT Matt McCants, lining up at left tackle with the second string offensive line, at times looks like he’s hesitating. Usually if a guy knows what he has to do, there’s no pause – he just explodes into his man. McCants, who in my opinion still looks a bit lean for the outside position despite having exceptional height, still looks like he’s feeling his way around at that position.
* The left side of the third-string offensive line did not have a good afternoon. OG Chris DeGeare had to resort to holding DE Damontre Moore, who was simply too quick for DeGeare to handle off the snap. Later on, Moore would have likely had two sacks, if not two very blatant holding calls in his favor as DeGeare just couldn’t handle him. As if things weren’t bad enough for DeGeare, he missed a block that resulted in a running play being blown up in the backfield. On the plus side, though, DeGeare did manage to draw Moore offside on one snap.
* Along that same vein, the linebackers had a field day exploiting that side of that line. LB Kyle Bosworth whizzed past the left side of the offensive line and into the backfield for the stop. Then it was the linebacking duo of Dan Connor and Aaron Curry who ran a jailbreak into the backfield.
* Speaking of Moore, I’ve been noticing how he’s done a good job of timing his releases once the ball is snapped. His timing has been pretty good – almost Osi Umenyiora-like, I’d say — as he’s caught the offense off guard. I’m very interested to see how well he does when the pads go on.
* RB Michael Cox looks very sure on the outside runs and does a great job of knowing when to turn up field. However when asked to run between the tackles, it’s a different story. I’ve noticed a slight hesitation when he comes to the line and as a result, any creases that might be there often times quickly close up.
* WR Kris Adams has had a nice showing since the spring, but today he had a dropped pass that hit him right in the hands. There was some question whether he was trying to fight through a hand injury after appearing to land hard on it as he tried to break his fall on an earlier play. Adams kept flexing his hand and just kept on going.
* CB Aaron Ross very nearly had a pick in the end zone but the ball bounced off of his hands. Although he broke up the play, Ross nonetheless took his punishment like a man and, upon his arrival back at the huddle, dropped to the ground to do pushups.
* QB Ryan Nassib attempted one deep ball to the corner of the end zone, but it was thrown on such a curve that it hung up in the air and was easily knocked way by a defender. He was also picked off by LB Jake Muasau when the quarterback failed to see the linebacker in an 11-on-11 drill. On that interception, Nassib stepped up in the pocket.
* OL James Brewer opened a nice hole for André Brown to exploit up the gut for about a 12-yard gain. Brown is just so lightning-quick – it’s pretty amazing to see him move so well considering he’s had two major injuries to his legs in his career.
* CB Prince Amukamara continues to have a fine camp, breaking up a pass intended for Cruz in the end zone. I think Amukamara was the only one who managed to break up a pass intended for Crus in this practice.
* FB Ryan D’Imperio took a few snaps with the starters and seemed to hold his own. He does a nice job catching the ball out of the backfield – I don’t recall him dropping a single pass. It was interesting that on this, his second day in camp, he got some snaps with the starters as that would seem to show that he’s picking up the playbook quickly.
* CB Trumaine McBride continues to make plays. Today he broke up a deep pass intended for Brandon Collins. McBride stayed stride-for-stride with Collins and at the last minute, knocked the ball away. Those are the kinds of plays that will get a guy a roster spot.
* The coaches finally found someone who could stop “Damonster” – tight end Larry Donnell, who missed the spring with a foot injury but who was cleared for camp, managed to stand up the rookie defensive end as he tried to slip through to the backfield.
*A nice light moment happened during Coughlin’s post practice press conference when former punter Jeff Feagles, who used to hold on field goals and who is now part of the Giants broadcasting crew, asked the head coach why he had more confidence in Steve Weatherford than Feagles to run a fake field goal. Coughlin smiled and said. “There are many reasons, yes. He can get to the edge, maybe. He didn’t throw it as well as you did, though.”
UPON FURTHER REVIEW
It was interesting to note that in the 11-on-11s, David Wilson and André Brown have been rotating as far as taking the first handoff of the series. Coughlin was asked about that and as usual, he gave his standard, “We’ll see” response. You might remember a few years ago, Brandon Jacobs, who was coming into camp as the starter, suddenly began rotating with Ahmad Bradshaw on that first handoff in camp practices; eventually Bradshaw became the starter.
I’m not saying that means that Brown is going to start ahead of Wilson, but it’s worth keeping an eye on, especially with the players set to put pads on for Tuesday’s practice. That’s when we should be able to better gauge if Wilson has made any progress in his pass blocking abilities.
UP NEXT
The Giants’ three-day acclimation period (translation: shorts and shells) ends tomorrow. Starting Tuesday, the team will be in full pads.
http://insidefootball.com/blog/2013/07/the-day-at-camp-july-28-2013/
Consistency. As defined by Dictionary.com, it means “steadfast adherence to the same principles, course, form, etc.;” “agreement, harmony, or compatibility, especially correspondence or uniformity among the parts of a complex thing;” and “the condition of cohering or holding together and retaining form; solidity or firmness.”
Whatever definition you prefer, ‘consistency’ is a word that just wasn’t applicable to the New York Giants defense last year. And that has been one of the goals of everyone from the front office to the coaches right on down to the players in this training camp, to become more consistent.
Head coach Tom Coughlin, who has used that word a lot, was asked for his definition as it applies to the defense.
“Fifty-two points, zero the next week. Just a consistent championship level of play from all aspects.”
It’s still early in camp, but so far the changes made on defense seem to be paying off. The energy is better than it was a year ago. There is more fight from the players to get into the backfield to blow up plays, to limit yards after the catch, and to break up passes.
There is better communication – safety Stevie Brown told me today that communication issues in the defensive secondary where an idea was expressed but that not everyone interpreted it the same way, was a problem that they have made a conscious effort to correct this year.
And so far Coughlin, who when asked what identity he’d like for his defense to have this year said he was looking for it to be physical, seems to be pleased with the direction the defense is taking in these early days of camp.
“You have to get an identity. You have to represent something,” he said. “You have to be there week in and week out. You have to have that kind of consistency and you have to control the line of scrimmage. You have to stop the run first before you can rush the pass and we’re capable of both, but we’re certainly going to get tested in both areas.”
He’s also been pleased with the play of the cornerbacks, a unit that was initially thought to be a weakness but one which has so far, as a collective group, had a strong showing in these first two days of camp.
“I’m excited to see this camp evolve in that area,” Coughlin said. “We’re looking for improvement in our secondary play overall. It’s early, so we’ll see.”
It is early, but the promise is certainly there. Can they do it every week? That will be the real test, and that could be the difference between taking a step closer to playing in February across the parking lot in their home building, or watching that game from their homes.
INJURY REPORT
Besides the five on PUP – FB Henry Hynoski, DE Jason Pierre-Paul, RG Chris Snee, CB Terrell Thomas, and DT Markus Kuhn – the only other injuries to speak of were to safety Tyler Sash (cramps), who went down on one of the very last drills of the practice and had to be carted off, and receiver Hakeem Nicks, who after the one-on-one drills was pulled from the practice as a precautionary after experiencing tightness in his groin area.
Linebacker Aaron Curry, who left yesterday’s practice with cramps, was back on the field looking no worse for the wear.
Center David Baas, who today assured reporters that he would be full go by the start of the season, continues to be limited. When Baas is out of the lineup, Kevin Boothe moves over to center and Selvish Capers moves in at left guard.
LINEUPS
With the team working on kickoff returns, here’s what I was able to take away as far as lineups. When David Wilson returned kickoffs, his nearest guys were Ryan Torain, Justin Pugh, and Adrien Robinson.
When Jerrel Jernigan took his turn returning kickoffs, Da’Rel Scott was back there with him, the “wedge” guys being Johnathan Hankins and Brandon Myers.
Michael Cox also got a chance to return a kickoff, but I unfortunately didn’t notice the guys nearest him.
PRACTICE HIGHLIGHTS
The Giants managed to get their entire practice in outside on this, Autograph Day, much to the delight of the fans in attendance, many of whom started lining up around 11 this morning to get good seats. While at one point there was a threat of rain, it only ended up to be a light drizzle which went away before the clouds yielded to the sun.
* The Giants re-introduced one-on-one drills today in which the receivers went against the defensive backs. The highlight of that drill set was a gorgeous tightrope catch by Nicks, who after making the reception, high stepped it for show since it was made in front of the fans. I can’t say for sure if that’s when he started having issues with his groin, but after that series, Nicks wasn’t seen in the practice again.
* TE Adrien Robinson had a nice showing as a receiver. He caught every ball his way, including a couple in which the quarterback put the pigskin where only Robinson could get it. Robinson was also the recipient of a touchdown pass on a fake field goal attempt, as he beat Linval Joseph to the end zone with ease.
* OT Matt McCants, lining up at left tackle with the second string offensive line, at times looks like he’s hesitating. Usually if a guy knows what he has to do, there’s no pause – he just explodes into his man. McCants, who in my opinion still looks a bit lean for the outside position despite having exceptional height, still looks like he’s feeling his way around at that position.
* The left side of the third-string offensive line did not have a good afternoon. OG Chris DeGeare had to resort to holding DE Damontre Moore, who was simply too quick for DeGeare to handle off the snap. Later on, Moore would have likely had two sacks, if not two very blatant holding calls in his favor as DeGeare just couldn’t handle him. As if things weren’t bad enough for DeGeare, he missed a block that resulted in a running play being blown up in the backfield. On the plus side, though, DeGeare did manage to draw Moore offside on one snap.
* Along that same vein, the linebackers had a field day exploiting that side of that line. LB Kyle Bosworth whizzed past the left side of the offensive line and into the backfield for the stop. Then it was the linebacking duo of Dan Connor and Aaron Curry who ran a jailbreak into the backfield.
* Speaking of Moore, I’ve been noticing how he’s done a good job of timing his releases once the ball is snapped. His timing has been pretty good – almost Osi Umenyiora-like, I’d say — as he’s caught the offense off guard. I’m very interested to see how well he does when the pads go on.
* RB Michael Cox looks very sure on the outside runs and does a great job of knowing when to turn up field. However when asked to run between the tackles, it’s a different story. I’ve noticed a slight hesitation when he comes to the line and as a result, any creases that might be there often times quickly close up.
* WR Kris Adams has had a nice showing since the spring, but today he had a dropped pass that hit him right in the hands. There was some question whether he was trying to fight through a hand injury after appearing to land hard on it as he tried to break his fall on an earlier play. Adams kept flexing his hand and just kept on going.
* CB Aaron Ross very nearly had a pick in the end zone but the ball bounced off of his hands. Although he broke up the play, Ross nonetheless took his punishment like a man and, upon his arrival back at the huddle, dropped to the ground to do pushups.
* QB Ryan Nassib attempted one deep ball to the corner of the end zone, but it was thrown on such a curve that it hung up in the air and was easily knocked way by a defender. He was also picked off by LB Jake Muasau when the quarterback failed to see the linebacker in an 11-on-11 drill. On that interception, Nassib stepped up in the pocket.
* OL James Brewer opened a nice hole for André Brown to exploit up the gut for about a 12-yard gain. Brown is just so lightning-quick – it’s pretty amazing to see him move so well considering he’s had two major injuries to his legs in his career.
* CB Prince Amukamara continues to have a fine camp, breaking up a pass intended for Cruz in the end zone. I think Amukamara was the only one who managed to break up a pass intended for Crus in this practice.
* FB Ryan D’Imperio took a few snaps with the starters and seemed to hold his own. He does a nice job catching the ball out of the backfield – I don’t recall him dropping a single pass. It was interesting that on this, his second day in camp, he got some snaps with the starters as that would seem to show that he’s picking up the playbook quickly.
* CB Trumaine McBride continues to make plays. Today he broke up a deep pass intended for Brandon Collins. McBride stayed stride-for-stride with Collins and at the last minute, knocked the ball away. Those are the kinds of plays that will get a guy a roster spot.
* The coaches finally found someone who could stop “Damonster” – tight end Larry Donnell, who missed the spring with a foot injury but who was cleared for camp, managed to stand up the rookie defensive end as he tried to slip through to the backfield.
*A nice light moment happened during Coughlin’s post practice press conference when former punter Jeff Feagles, who used to hold on field goals and who is now part of the Giants broadcasting crew, asked the head coach why he had more confidence in Steve Weatherford than Feagles to run a fake field goal. Coughlin smiled and said. “There are many reasons, yes. He can get to the edge, maybe. He didn’t throw it as well as you did, though.”
UPON FURTHER REVIEW
It was interesting to note that in the 11-on-11s, David Wilson and André Brown have been rotating as far as taking the first handoff of the series. Coughlin was asked about that and as usual, he gave his standard, “We’ll see” response. You might remember a few years ago, Brandon Jacobs, who was coming into camp as the starter, suddenly began rotating with Ahmad Bradshaw on that first handoff in camp practices; eventually Bradshaw became the starter.
I’m not saying that means that Brown is going to start ahead of Wilson, but it’s worth keeping an eye on, especially with the players set to put pads on for Tuesday’s practice. That’s when we should be able to better gauge if Wilson has made any progress in his pass blocking abilities.
UP NEXT
The Giants’ three-day acclimation period (translation: shorts and shells) ends tomorrow. Starting Tuesday, the team will be in full pads.
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Practice report: Fingers, fakes and the rise of DaMonster
7:26 PM By Tom Rock
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/t-rock-s-take-on-the-giants-1.811990/practice-report-fingers-fakes-and-the-rise-of-damonster-1.5785465
Day two and so far no serious injuries. That seems to put the Giants ahead of about half the teams in the NFL.
Of course the Giants’ main medical worries came into camp that way, so maybe they’re just ahead of the curve. Jason Pierre-Paul (back), Henry Hynoski (knee), Chris Snee (hip), Terrell Thomas (knee) and Markus Kuhn (knee) remain on PUP and were rehabbing on the side during practice.
And of course there was Hakeem Nicks, who, if you read this blog or follow me on Twitter, you know by now spent the second half of practice on the sideline with tightness in his groin. Could be nothing, could be something. We’ll keep you posted.
Also, Tyler Sash missed the last two snaps of practice with what looked like cramps in his legs. He collapsed in a heap while covering on a special teams drill and the trainers came over and stretched him out on the field. He was eventually carted off, but didn’t seem to be too depressed about getting the ride to the locker room.
Another injury that we could learn more about tomorrow and Kris Adams’. He dropped a pass from Eli Manning in 7-on-7s and immediately grabbed one hand with the other. He had it looked at, returned to the field, and a few snaps later he dropped another and again grabbed at his hands. It could be a dislocated or jammed finger or something like that. I remember two years ago Devin Thomas suffered a fractured pinkie trying to catch a pass in training camp. He said he took off his glove and the skin was peeled off the bone. It looked like the scraps plate at a Buffalo Wild Wings. Not sure Adams’ injury rises to that level (or maybe it does), but he’d been getting some solid reps so far in camp and looked to be competing for a job as WR depth.
Ok, enough doom and gloom. Let’s get into the football.
We had the same starting units as yesterday on both offense and defense (minus Nicks, natch). There were a few times that Kevin Boothe moved over to center to give David Baas a break and Selvish Capers moved up to play guard with the ones. The second offensive line included Justin Pugh at left tackle followed across by Brandon Mosley, Jim Cordle, Capers and Chris DeGeare.
The first action of practice was in one-on-one drills that featured WRs vs. DBs on one field and RBs and TEs vs. LBs on another. I watched the wide receivers and saw Rueben Randle make a nice catch on a deep pass from David Carr over Terrence Frederick. Brandon Collins caught a deep one from Carr, too, as did Nicks (pre-groin tightness) who accelerated on a go route to get past Corey Webster. The best route of the drill, though, was a double move from Chase Clement that had safety Cooper Taylor spinning. (I was told that Adrien Robinson made a pair of impressive grabs over on the other field.)
In the first series of 11-on-11 snaps Carr made a nice throw rolling to his left and hitting Jerrel Jernigan. Jacquian Williams flashed for the first time in camp when he came in and stuffed a run by Ryan Torain. And David Caldwell had a really nice pass breakup when he batted a ball out of the hands of Kevin Hardy on a deep post pass from Ryan Nassib. That series was also the first time that Damontre Moore jumped out at me on the day – he had to be held by DeGeare on an inside move – but more on him a bit later.
Next came kickoff returns. David Wilson seems to be the primary player the Giants want back there (for now) but Jernigan, Michael Cox and Da’rel Scott were also getting reps. Pugh, by the way, was working with the first return unit as an upfront blocker for Wilson.
After that it was time for Josh Brown’s first field goal attempts of the summer. He was good from 20, 27 and 33 yards. But on the attempt from 38 the Giants ran a fake. Holder Steve Weatherford rolled out to his right and lofted a pass to Adrien Robinson that was tipped by Mathias Kiwanuka but ultimately caught for a touchdown (or at least a few yards if the defense was interested in tackling anyone). Funny moment: At Coughlin’s presser after practice Jeff Feagles who is now a Giants broadcaster asked Coughlin why he never ran fakes like that when he was the holder. “There are a lot of reasons,” Coughlin chuckled. “(Weatherford) can get to the edge, maybe. He didn’t throw it as well as you did, though.”
With kicking (and Weatherford’s glory) in the books, it was back to 7-on-7s. Carr connected on a deep pass to Victor Cruz with Sash and Trumaine McBride in the area (but not making contact with Cruz due to training camp rules). Jernigan caught a pass from Curtis Painter on a nice double move. And Jake Muasau intercepted a pass from Ryan Nassib that was intended for Jeremy Horne, stepping in front of the receiver for the pick and returning it to the end zone with Perry Fewell galloping alongside.
Back to 11-on-11s. The Giants opened with a two-tight end formation that included Brandon Myers and Adrien Robinson (three TEs if you include Bear Pascoe at fullback) and Rueben Randle as the lone receiver. They ran a toss to David Wilson out of the formation in case any of the other 31 teams in the league are interested. On the next snap, though, they went with three wide and had Cruz, Randle and Louis Murphy running routes (Nicks was sidelined by then). Manning wound up throwing to Andre Brown on a checkdown.
A few other plays that stood out in that series were the play-action rollouot pass from Manning to Pascoe, a pass for Myers that was broken up by Mark Herzlich, and a 50-yard floater of a deep ball from Manning towards Cruz that was broken up by Prince Amukamara and Stevie Brown. When the second team came out I really focused in on Damontre Moore and was not disappointed. In a series of three straight snaps he beat DeGeare with an inside move to put pressure on Carr, then lined up on the other side and beat Robinson to stuff a run by Torain, and then stayed on that side to draw what would have been a holding penalty against Pugh. He beat DeGeare again later in the drills but slipped and lost his footing. Later on, though, he was able to recreate that inside move against poor DeGeare and put pressure on Painter that helped break up the timing on a deep pass for Hardy. Aaron Ross was there to nearly intercept it. A very impressive series from Damontre Moore. If he can come in for two or three series a game and play like that this year, the Giants will be tickled.
The offense/defense part of practice then shifted to some red zone plays. Cruz beat Amukamara early. Manning threw away his only other pass in the drill when he ran out of time and chucked it into the back of the end zone. Dan Connor and Aaron Curry would have destroyed David Carr had it been an actual game as the two linebackers both blitzed and came through cleanly. And in one of the more subtle but impressive plays of his short career so far, Ryan Nassib saw that he did not have any open receivers and he threw the ball away rather than try to force it. Good decision making for the rookie. Kyle Bosworth and Muasau each had nice plays on run stops (theoretically since there is no tackling).
Finally, there were a few hurry-up snaps. Manning completed passes to Myers and Pascoe and Wilson took a handoff to march the first offense down the field.
Practice ended with some special teams drills, but there were only a handful of reps. Maybe because Sash was lying in the middle of the field being treated for his cramps while players tried to run around him.
7:26 PM By Tom Rock
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/giants/t-rock-s-take-on-the-giants-1.811990/practice-report-fingers-fakes-and-the-rise-of-damonster-1.5785465
Day two and so far no serious injuries. That seems to put the Giants ahead of about half the teams in the NFL.
Of course the Giants’ main medical worries came into camp that way, so maybe they’re just ahead of the curve. Jason Pierre-Paul (back), Henry Hynoski (knee), Chris Snee (hip), Terrell Thomas (knee) and Markus Kuhn (knee) remain on PUP and were rehabbing on the side during practice.
And of course there was Hakeem Nicks, who, if you read this blog or follow me on Twitter, you know by now spent the second half of practice on the sideline with tightness in his groin. Could be nothing, could be something. We’ll keep you posted.
Also, Tyler Sash missed the last two snaps of practice with what looked like cramps in his legs. He collapsed in a heap while covering on a special teams drill and the trainers came over and stretched him out on the field. He was eventually carted off, but didn’t seem to be too depressed about getting the ride to the locker room.
Another injury that we could learn more about tomorrow and Kris Adams’. He dropped a pass from Eli Manning in 7-on-7s and immediately grabbed one hand with the other. He had it looked at, returned to the field, and a few snaps later he dropped another and again grabbed at his hands. It could be a dislocated or jammed finger or something like that. I remember two years ago Devin Thomas suffered a fractured pinkie trying to catch a pass in training camp. He said he took off his glove and the skin was peeled off the bone. It looked like the scraps plate at a Buffalo Wild Wings. Not sure Adams’ injury rises to that level (or maybe it does), but he’d been getting some solid reps so far in camp and looked to be competing for a job as WR depth.
Ok, enough doom and gloom. Let’s get into the football.
We had the same starting units as yesterday on both offense and defense (minus Nicks, natch). There were a few times that Kevin Boothe moved over to center to give David Baas a break and Selvish Capers moved up to play guard with the ones. The second offensive line included Justin Pugh at left tackle followed across by Brandon Mosley, Jim Cordle, Capers and Chris DeGeare.
The first action of practice was in one-on-one drills that featured WRs vs. DBs on one field and RBs and TEs vs. LBs on another. I watched the wide receivers and saw Rueben Randle make a nice catch on a deep pass from David Carr over Terrence Frederick. Brandon Collins caught a deep one from Carr, too, as did Nicks (pre-groin tightness) who accelerated on a go route to get past Corey Webster. The best route of the drill, though, was a double move from Chase Clement that had safety Cooper Taylor spinning. (I was told that Adrien Robinson made a pair of impressive grabs over on the other field.)
In the first series of 11-on-11 snaps Carr made a nice throw rolling to his left and hitting Jerrel Jernigan. Jacquian Williams flashed for the first time in camp when he came in and stuffed a run by Ryan Torain. And David Caldwell had a really nice pass breakup when he batted a ball out of the hands of Kevin Hardy on a deep post pass from Ryan Nassib. That series was also the first time that Damontre Moore jumped out at me on the day – he had to be held by DeGeare on an inside move – but more on him a bit later.
Next came kickoff returns. David Wilson seems to be the primary player the Giants want back there (for now) but Jernigan, Michael Cox and Da’rel Scott were also getting reps. Pugh, by the way, was working with the first return unit as an upfront blocker for Wilson.
After that it was time for Josh Brown’s first field goal attempts of the summer. He was good from 20, 27 and 33 yards. But on the attempt from 38 the Giants ran a fake. Holder Steve Weatherford rolled out to his right and lofted a pass to Adrien Robinson that was tipped by Mathias Kiwanuka but ultimately caught for a touchdown (or at least a few yards if the defense was interested in tackling anyone). Funny moment: At Coughlin’s presser after practice Jeff Feagles who is now a Giants broadcaster asked Coughlin why he never ran fakes like that when he was the holder. “There are a lot of reasons,” Coughlin chuckled. “(Weatherford) can get to the edge, maybe. He didn’t throw it as well as you did, though.”
With kicking (and Weatherford’s glory) in the books, it was back to 7-on-7s. Carr connected on a deep pass to Victor Cruz with Sash and Trumaine McBride in the area (but not making contact with Cruz due to training camp rules). Jernigan caught a pass from Curtis Painter on a nice double move. And Jake Muasau intercepted a pass from Ryan Nassib that was intended for Jeremy Horne, stepping in front of the receiver for the pick and returning it to the end zone with Perry Fewell galloping alongside.
Back to 11-on-11s. The Giants opened with a two-tight end formation that included Brandon Myers and Adrien Robinson (three TEs if you include Bear Pascoe at fullback) and Rueben Randle as the lone receiver. They ran a toss to David Wilson out of the formation in case any of the other 31 teams in the league are interested. On the next snap, though, they went with three wide and had Cruz, Randle and Louis Murphy running routes (Nicks was sidelined by then). Manning wound up throwing to Andre Brown on a checkdown.
A few other plays that stood out in that series were the play-action rollouot pass from Manning to Pascoe, a pass for Myers that was broken up by Mark Herzlich, and a 50-yard floater of a deep ball from Manning towards Cruz that was broken up by Prince Amukamara and Stevie Brown. When the second team came out I really focused in on Damontre Moore and was not disappointed. In a series of three straight snaps he beat DeGeare with an inside move to put pressure on Carr, then lined up on the other side and beat Robinson to stuff a run by Torain, and then stayed on that side to draw what would have been a holding penalty against Pugh. He beat DeGeare again later in the drills but slipped and lost his footing. Later on, though, he was able to recreate that inside move against poor DeGeare and put pressure on Painter that helped break up the timing on a deep pass for Hardy. Aaron Ross was there to nearly intercept it. A very impressive series from Damontre Moore. If he can come in for two or three series a game and play like that this year, the Giants will be tickled.
The offense/defense part of practice then shifted to some red zone plays. Cruz beat Amukamara early. Manning threw away his only other pass in the drill when he ran out of time and chucked it into the back of the end zone. Dan Connor and Aaron Curry would have destroyed David Carr had it been an actual game as the two linebackers both blitzed and came through cleanly. And in one of the more subtle but impressive plays of his short career so far, Ryan Nassib saw that he did not have any open receivers and he threw the ball away rather than try to force it. Good decision making for the rookie. Kyle Bosworth and Muasau each had nice plays on run stops (theoretically since there is no tackling).
Finally, there were a few hurry-up snaps. Manning completed passes to Myers and Pascoe and Wilson took a handoff to march the first offense down the field.
Practice ended with some special teams drills, but there were only a handful of reps. Maybe because Sash was lying in the middle of the field being treated for his cramps while players tried to run around him.
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