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***OFFICIAL*** 2014 Masters thread (1 Viewer)
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TobiasFunke
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Johnny Bing
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Why is it that in golf the sports fan frowns on an athlete showing frustration? On the way to work this morning I was listening PGA radio on XM and there were callers just blasting Spieth because he slammed his iron into the ground in frustration. All these callers saying he needs to mature and it is just bad for the game, etc. You see it all the time in other sports and it is overlooked, but in golf it is "bad for the game."
Really? Because an athlete is showing emotion it is bad for the game? I would agree there is a line that can be crossed, but it wasn't like he was flying f-bombs left and right and throwing clubs around. Arguably the largest golf tournament of the season it has to be hard to show zero emotion. As one caller said, people expect you to be Lovie Smith out there.
Really? Because an athlete is showing emotion it is bad for the game? I would agree there is a line that can be crossed, but it wasn't like he was flying f-bombs left and right and throwing clubs around. Arguably the largest golf tournament of the season it has to be hard to show zero emotion. As one caller said, people expect you to be Lovie Smith out there.
gump
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I know he hit a lot of greens, and was dialed in on the par 3s on Sunday...but I'm really talking about short irons.
He was off on his wedges, which is normally a strength.
I guess you could say he countered that will good longer iron play, but he could have gone lower.
Hooper31
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I think the difference in first cut and the rough is very significant.
The friends that I have who were there this week commented back to me "what rough?". I didn't grasp what they were talking about until I watched closely this Sunday. You could see more than the top half of any ball that missed a fairway on every hole. There really is no rough at Augusta. Same with the pinestraw. Its manicured to perfection on every hole. IMO you win the Masters with great play around the greens.
All the courses I'm used to playing there really is a distinct first and second cut. The rough is generally so deep you can't see the ball until you're right over the top of it for a U.S. Open. I've volunteered for many years at the Boeing classic and worked as a marshall on the sides of fairways. Very similar there. Rough so deep you can't see the ball unless you're right over it.
I don't know how it affects Bubba particularly, but I can easily see it being a major factor if he's going to continue crushing driver with no worries about missing fairways.
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Joe T
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He was whining about decent shots. It's not uncommon among good golfers but it's really annoying. If you've ever played with a scratch golfer who gets pissed or whiny every time his approach shot doesn't result in a 10ft or shorter birdie putt you know what I mean. But he's also 20.
"Crying with a loaf of bread under each arm."
urbanhack
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Hooper31
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I don't. I'm relatively new to the game (been playing for just over three years now).
Is that the case? Is the second cut new to the Masters?
bryhamm
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GTBilly
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Ok I thought they were talking about him. Who was the guy they were talking about then?
belljr
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not sure but the answer is no you don't get the money you would have won
That's a good comment. It's particularly true of the US Open, where they make it a point of rewarding accuracy. Which is why the winning score is usually around even par, with 2011 being the big exception. Most of the other times it has been around par, and even 5 over par in 2006 and 2007.
gump
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All true...but my comment about Bubba's game still holds true also. His length allows him to potentially hit a lot of irons...and what I particularly love about his game is his hands, which will serve him well on those types of scrambling situations.
It's all about getting more consistent and confident with him...which you can see happening this year.
Hooper31
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Don't disagree there. Lots of other players will be hitting irons too, but from slightly longer distances. However, if they're hitting those irons from the fairway instead of the rough they may have an easier time. I don't know either way. Just pure speculation on my part.
gump
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I think you're misunderstanding me...I mean Bubba's length will allow him to hit irons OFF THE TEE, instead of woods...which helps him hit more fairways.
gump
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Tiger effect? Masters' worst Sunday rating since '04
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Ryan Lavner
April 14, 2014, 12:22 pm
The final round of the 78th Masters drew a 7.8 overnight rating, according to Austin Karp of Sports Business Daily. Last year’s tournament – won in a dramatic playoff by Adam Scott – turned in a 10.2 rating.
The 7.8 rating – which means that the coverage was seen in 7.8 percent of U.S. homes – was the worst since the 2004 Masters, when Phil Mickelson broke through for his first career major. That tournament, however, also coincided with Easter Sunday. (The holiday also affected ratings in 2007, 2009 and 2012.)
There were a number of factors for this year’s ratings decline. Woods, the game’s biggest draw, skipped the event for the first time in his career because of back surgery. Mickelson missed only his second career Masters cut. And winner Bubba Watson carried a two-shot lead into the second nine and never was seriously challenged, making five consecutive pars to close out a three-shot victory.
Via Karp, this is how the past 10 Masters have rated: 7.8, 10.2, 8.1, 10.4, 12.0, 8.8, 8.9, 9.1, 9.0, 10.3 and 7.3.
The best Masters overnight rating since 1997 remains Woods’ win in 2001, which drew a 12.9.
Over the first two days of the Masters, ESPN averaged a 1.6 U.S. household rating and 2.2 million viewers – both of which were down from last year’s averages of a 2.5 rating and 3.5 million viewers. The opening round’s 1.5 rating was a 25 percent decline from 2013, and the average audience of 2 million viewers was down 29 percent from a year ago.
The third round, broadcast by CBS, received a 4.4 rating, down from 6.3 in 2013.
On Sunday, the most viewers tuned in from 6:30 to 7 p.m. (9.7 rating), when Watson put the finishing touches on his second green jacket in the past three years.
By
Ryan Lavner
April 14, 2014, 12:22 pm
The final round of the 78th Masters drew a 7.8 overnight rating, according to Austin Karp of Sports Business Daily. Last year’s tournament – won in a dramatic playoff by Adam Scott – turned in a 10.2 rating.
The 7.8 rating – which means that the coverage was seen in 7.8 percent of U.S. homes – was the worst since the 2004 Masters, when Phil Mickelson broke through for his first career major. That tournament, however, also coincided with Easter Sunday. (The holiday also affected ratings in 2007, 2009 and 2012.)
There were a number of factors for this year’s ratings decline. Woods, the game’s biggest draw, skipped the event for the first time in his career because of back surgery. Mickelson missed only his second career Masters cut. And winner Bubba Watson carried a two-shot lead into the second nine and never was seriously challenged, making five consecutive pars to close out a three-shot victory.
Via Karp, this is how the past 10 Masters have rated: 7.8, 10.2, 8.1, 10.4, 12.0, 8.8, 8.9, 9.1, 9.0, 10.3 and 7.3.
The best Masters overnight rating since 1997 remains Woods’ win in 2001, which drew a 12.9.
Over the first two days of the Masters, ESPN averaged a 1.6 U.S. household rating and 2.2 million viewers – both of which were down from last year’s averages of a 2.5 rating and 3.5 million viewers. The opening round’s 1.5 rating was a 25 percent decline from 2013, and the average audience of 2 million viewers was down 29 percent from a year ago.
The third round, broadcast by CBS, received a 4.4 rating, down from 6.3 in 2013.
On Sunday, the most viewers tuned in from 6:30 to 7 p.m. (9.7 rating), when Watson put the finishing touches on his second green jacket in the past three years.
Dark Matter
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Because the Tiger Trolls add so much insight to the conversation. Sorry to tell you but he's (at least) the second best player......ever.
lod01
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Hooper31
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Pinehurst #2 and Chamber's Bay the next two years. I don't know about Pinehurst, but I do know about Chamber's Bay. I'm a volunteer for next year at Chamber's Bay in Tacoma. Hoping I get to be a walking scorer or a standard bearer. Not sure if all my previous experience as a walking scorer will matter. Time will tell.
Chamber's Bay is 7165 yards as of now. I don't know if it will be lengthened for the Open next year, or if they will alter some of their par 5 holes and turn them into par 4s.. Augusta National is listed at 7290 yards. I don't think I saw Bubba use an iron even once this past week. If they holes at Chamber's Bay are just under 10 yards shorter per hole do you see him using irons instead of his driver? I have my doubts.
NREC34
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gump
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gump
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He doesn't have to at Augusta, because of your original point. But we've seen Tiger do it...or hit the stinger...with success and without. When you can hit a 2-iron 280 yards..it's an advantage no matter what where you're playing.
I'm not arguing that the US Open does not seem like a good match for Bubba. But I think he's elevating his game, and again his hands/touch are suited for it.
urbanhack
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We haven't played golf for four months straight here in the Midwest. People are jonesing for golf in one way or another and the masters is a nice fix no matter who is playing.
Binky The Doormat
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Johnny Rock
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flapgreen
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That sounds terribleLanger was still on the front 9 when they came on the air. Most of what they show is racked but the pretend shock is a new trend. Feherty's taken it to a new level.Well technically he was done before the broadcast started and shots on delay isn't something new
Apple Jack
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The issue there is not Jordan spieth, but people who call into radio shows, nevermind GOLF radio. Spieth is fine.
Apple Jack
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There is trouble off-line at pinehurst. A lot. He won't be getting any bounces like he did on 18 Saturday. Augusta sets up fantastically for bubba, I don't think pinehurst does. But we'll see. It's a ways off, but he should be carrying a good bit of confidence into it.
heckmanm
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mr roboto
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I bet he will when Arnie can't anymore.
urbanhack
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This group is reserved for the legends who don't/can't play in the tournament.
Watson teed it up.
BobbyLayne
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Jock Hutchison, 1963-73
Fred McLeod, 1963-76
Gene Sarazen, 1981-99
Byron Nelson, 1981-82 and 1984-2001
Ken Venturi, 1983
Sam Snead, 1984-2002
Arnold Palmer, 2007-
Jack Nicklaus, 2010-
Gary Player, 2012-
3 of the 9 men who have been Honorary Starters at the Masters never won the tournament.
Fred McLeod, 1963-76
Gene Sarazen, 1981-99
Byron Nelson, 1981-82 and 1984-2001
Ken Venturi, 1983
Sam Snead, 1984-2002
Arnold Palmer, 2007-
Jack Nicklaus, 2010-
Gary Player, 2012-
3 of the 9 men who have been Honorary Starters at the Masters never won the tournament.
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