** Official 2014 NFL Scouting Combine thread ** (1 Viewer)

[Milkman]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

 

[Xue]

You're predicting hand sizes?

And video timing 40s on his couch.

This kind of dedication should mean Staff Status

Ignorance.

 

[Brewtown]

For me there still not alot of seperation in this running back class. I have enough experience watching combines to know that the numbers pale in comparison to actual game footage.

Agree to agree. The combine is fun. At the same time, nothing matters more than seeing players in games. Great football players are not always workout machines.

So the combine is for fun?

I take the season as like having a most of your grade in school based off essays and tests. the combine and on campus workouts are the 20-25% homework and quizzes.

Everyone can keep saying it doesn't matter. Yet, the TE class just went from "deep" to "weak" in 30 min worth of using stop watches. After all those countless hours of tape study(he says sarcastically), your rakings change in 30 min? Time to hold some of these guys selling us false hope accountable for once. I don't think they will ever hold themselves accountable. Now that might be fun.

I'm not sure that I've heard many people think that the TE position is deep this year. What I've read and what I feel is that there are three studs at the top. I stand by that thought....

 

[menobrown]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

 

[werdnoynek]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

Not sure who it was but someone was calling him a Forte clone during the drills I think.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

Not sure who it was but someone was calling him a Forte clone during the drills I think.

Best receiving RB in the draft.

 

[menobrown]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

Not sure who it was but someone was calling him a Forte clone during the drills I think.

Have heard comps to Forte for past few months. First time I heard it was from Bucky Brooks in this article back in November: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000284921/article/scouts-take-wvus-charles-sims-has-matt-fortelike-talent

 

[rdrouyn]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

Not sure who it was but someone was calling him a Forte clone during the drills I think.

Have heard comps to Forte for past few months. First time I heard it was from Bucky Brooks in this article back in November: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000284921/article/scouts-take-wvus-charles-sims-has-matt-fortelike-talent

Lammey also loves the guy and uses the Forte comp. Very curious about his college career.

 

[coolnerd]

For me there still not alot of seperation in this running back class. I have enough experience watching combines to know that the numbers pale in comparison to actual game footage.

Agree to agree. The combine is fun. At the same time, nothing matters more than seeing players in games. Great football players are not always workout machines.

So the combine is for fun?

I take the season as like having a most of your grade in school based off essays and tests. the combine and on campus workouts are the 20-25% homework and quizzes.

Everyone can keep saying it doesn't matter. Yet, the TE class just went from "deep" to "weak" in 30 min worth of using stop watches. After all those countless hours of tape study(he says sarcastically), your rakings change in 30 min? Time to hold some of these guys selling us false hope accountable for once. I don't think they will ever hold themselves accountable. Now that might be fun.

the draft media has to produce well product. I don't get mad at them for this. There are enough former NFL employees in the draft business to know most teams are not doing mock drafts every week nor taking a single piece of information (non medical or criminal) and go moving someone's name up and down the draft "board'

I understand that no rational (key word) NFL organization loves everything about a player from game tape and then when he benches 5 fewer reps or runs 4.50 instead of a 4.45 in the forty just "moves him down the board" for the equal of one bad quiz when all the rest of his quizzes were just fine.

Overall, it matters, but just not in the silly ways it too often talked about.

 

[Milkman]

Robinson's split was 1.54. Not bad for 6.2 220. He's as fast as a lot of 4.4 guys the first ten yards. He just doesn't have that extra gear to blow the top off of defenses. He's bordering on huge (he's going to grow into that frame more) with a 39 inch vert which means he doesn't have to separate to be open.

Evans was impressive though and I think he's clearly the best big wr prospect in the draft. Great hands. Huge wr with what looks like elite speed for his size. He's a monster.

 

[lardonastick]

Haven't sat down and watched the drills yet, but quick thoughts:

- Biggest losers for me were Kelvin Benjamin and KaDeem Carey. For two guys who were touted as being among the top players at their position, both had very bad days. Benjamin's numbers show minimal explosiveness and from what I've heard he was not impressive in the drills. Carey bombed in Stepfan Taylor-esque way and may struggle to be picked on the second day now.

- Jeremy Hill and Carlos Hyde also had a very poor showing in the tests. Neither guy figured to be the type to light up this kind of event, but I thought Hyde could possibly have a Doug Martin type of workout and you'd at least like to see some tangible signs of athletic ability from Hill. Is this a death sentence for these guys? No. There is a place for big, soft-bodied RB prospects with good feet and versatility. We saw that last year with LeVeon Bell and Eddie Lacy (two other guys with relatively poor combine numbers). However, these two now look more like guys who will need a good situation to have solid value as opposed to being potential fringe elite talents on their own merits. And with the layer of character risk surrounding Hill, he may not hear his name called until the 4th round. Just depends on how much teams value the workouts vs. the stats/tape.

- I think Marqise Lee had a mildly disappointing weekend. He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't spectacular in any of the measurements. I was hoping for a weight of 200+ pounds and a 40 time in the 4.4 range. At just 192 pounds with a 4.51, he's still a nice prospect, but perhaps destined for the 2nd round of the draft as some of his critics have long anticipated. He looks more like a sort of Greg Jennings/Santonio Holmes/Randall Cobb mashup. Probably a guy who should be viewed as a top 20-30 dynasty WR rather than a potential top 10 guy.

- On the other side of the equation, lots of players helped themselves today. Tre Mason and Bishop Sankey made a good case for moving up my RB rankings. I had it in mind that Sankey would look like Montee Ball with a bad combine and Doug Martin with a good combine. He's not as big as Martin, but after his solid showing in the testing I'm thinking he's more of a solid top 60 draft prospect than purely a J.A.G. Andre Williams also had a nice day, which is something that I anticipated. He is all muscle and faster than people gave him credit for. A team wanting a Brandon Jacobs style hammer will be pleased with him.

- At WR, Beckham had a really nice showing. I haven't watched him go through the receiving drills yet, but in his 40 he looked very efficient and athletic. His marks were excellent across the board. He has always been touted as a very good athlete and he did not disappoint today. Brandin Cooks had a great weekend. Add these numbers onto his production and you've got a surefire top 50 pick. I thought Allen Robinson also had a pretty decent weekend. The 4.60 40 will be an eye sore for some, but speed was never his forte and he was solid everywhere else with a higher weight than expected, a good vertical, and a good broad jump. I don't think he will go in the 1st round without 4.55 speed or better, but he solidified his spot in the 2nd. The "freak of the day" award probably goes to Moncrief with his great height/weight/speed/explosiveness numbers. 4.40 is really fast for a man that size and his 11' broad jump was filthy. I don't think he was ever going to slide out of the 3rd round, but with this type of performance I think he will now go in the 2nd for sure. Martavis Bryant had a freaky weekend as well and is a prime candidate to hypnotize somebody into using an early pick on him.

- Devonta Freeman and Davante Adams weren't horrible, but just by virtue of other players at their positions doing better, they'll probably slip down the rankings a bit.

Spot on - nice summary. Would contend that Andre Williams' day was marred a little by his "receiving" skills.

 

[coolnerd]

Charles Sims quietly had a nice combine.

6'0 214lbs

4.48 40

37.5 Vert

10-6 broad

Yes he did. I liked him a lot coming in he performed a lot better than I thought. Also arguably the best pass protector in the draft. Where RB's land matters a ton to me but he's contention for my top RB.

Not sure who it was but someone was calling him a Forte clone during the drills I think.

Have heard comps to Forte for past few months. First time I heard it was from Bucky Brooks in this article back in November: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000284921/article/scouts-take-wvus-charles-sims-has-matt-fortelike-talent

Lammey also loves the guy and uses the Forte comp. Very curious about his college career.

Played at Houston before WV. Has been as a productive, fairly non-dynamic runner who catches a ton of passes. If he starts, will fill a PPR scoring line pretty well, but won't be "talented" enough for some. Show have a fairly high floor, since at worst he should be a 3rd down back.

link to career stats

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/482428/charles-sims

 

[PhantomZoner]

Haven't sat down and watched the drills yet, but quick thoughts:

- Biggest losers for me were Kelvin Benjamin and KaDeem Carey. For two guys who were touted as being among the top players at their position, both had very bad days. Benjamin's numbers show minimal explosiveness and from what I've heard he was not impressive in the drills. Carey bombed in Stepfan Taylor-esque way and may struggle to be picked on the second day now.

- Jeremy Hill and Carlos Hyde also had a very poor showing in the tests. Neither guy figured to be the type to light up this kind of event, but I thought Hyde could possibly have a Doug Martin type of workout and you'd at least like to see some tangible signs of athletic ability from Hill. Is this a death sentence for these guys? No. There is a place for big, soft-bodied RB prospects with good feet and versatility. We saw that last year with LeVeon Bell and Eddie Lacy (two other guys with relatively poor combine numbers). However, these two now look more like guys who will need a good situation to have solid value as opposed to being potential fringe elite talents on their own merits. And with the layer of character risk surrounding Hill, he may not hear his name called until the 4th round. Just depends on how much teams value the workouts vs. the stats/tape.

- I think Marqise Lee had a mildly disappointing weekend. He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't spectacular in any of the measurements. I was hoping for a weight of 200+ pounds and a 40 time in the 4.4 range. At just 192 pounds with a 4.51, he's still a nice prospect, but perhaps destined for the 2nd round of the draft as some of his critics have long anticipated. He looks more like a sort of Greg Jennings/Santonio Holmes/Randall Cobb mashup. Probably a guy who should be viewed as a top 20-30 dynasty WR rather than a potential top 10 guy.

- On the other side of the equation, lots of players helped themselves today. Tre Mason and Bishop Sankey made a good case for moving up my RB rankings. I had it in mind that Sankey would look like Montee Ball with a bad combine and Doug Martin with a good combine. He's not as big as Martin, but after his solid showing in the testing I'm thinking he's more of a solid top 60 draft prospect than purely a J.A.G. Andre Williams also had a nice day, which is something that I anticipated. He is all muscle and faster than people gave him credit for. A team wanting a Brandon Jacobs style hammer will be pleased with him.

- At WR, Beckham had a really nice showing. I haven't watched him go through the receiving drills yet, but in his 40 he looked very efficient and athletic. His marks were excellent across the board. He has always been touted as a very good athlete and he did not disappoint today. Brandin Cooks had a great weekend. Add these numbers onto his production and you've got a surefire top 50 pick. I thought Allen Robinson also had a pretty decent weekend. The 4.60 40 will be an eye sore for some, but speed was never his forte and he was solid everywhere else with a higher weight than expected, a good vertical, and a good broad jump. I don't think he will go in the 1st round without 4.55 speed or better, but he solidified his spot in the 2nd. The "freak of the day" award probably goes to Moncrief with his great height/weight/speed/explosiveness numbers. 4.40 is really fast for a man that size and his 11' broad jump was filthy. I don't think he was ever going to slide out of the 3rd round, but with this type of performance I think he will now go in the 2nd for sure. Martavis Bryant had a freaky weekend as well and is a prime candidate to hypnotize somebody into using an early pick on him.

- Devonta Freeman and Davante Adams weren't horrible, but just by virtue of other players at their positions doing better, they'll probably slip down the rankings a bit.

Excellent write up. Thanks

 

[EBF]

Haven't sat down and watched the drills yet, but quick thoughts:

- Biggest losers for me were Kelvin Benjamin and KaDeem Carey. For two guys who were touted as being among the top players at their position, both had very bad days. Benjamin's numbers show minimal explosiveness and from what I've heard he was not impressive in the drills. Carey bombed in Stepfan Taylor-esque way and may struggle to be picked on the second day now.

- Jeremy Hill and Carlos Hyde also had a very poor showing in the tests. Neither guy figured to be the type to light up this kind of event, but I thought Hyde could possibly have a Doug Martin type of workout and you'd at least like to see some tangible signs of athletic ability from Hill. Is this a death sentence for these guys? No. There is a place for big, soft-bodied RB prospects with good feet and versatility. We saw that last year with LeVeon Bell and Eddie Lacy (two other guys with relatively poor combine numbers). However, these two now look more like guys who will need a good situation to have solid value as opposed to being potential fringe elite talents on their own merits. And with the layer of character risk surrounding Hill, he may not hear his name called until the 4th round. Just depends on how much teams value the workouts vs. the stats/tape.

- I think Marqise Lee had a mildly disappointing weekend. He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't spectacular in any of the measurements. I was hoping for a weight of 200+ pounds and a 40 time in the 4.4 range. At just 192 pounds with a 4.51, he's still a nice prospect, but perhaps destined for the 2nd round of the draft as some of his critics have long anticipated. He looks more like a sort of Greg Jennings/Santonio Holmes/Randall Cobb mashup. Probably a guy who should be viewed as a top 20-30 dynasty WR rather than a potential top 10 guy.

- On the other side of the equation, lots of players helped themselves today. Tre Mason and Bishop Sankey made a good case for moving up my RB rankings. I had it in mind that Sankey would look like Montee Ball with a bad combine and Doug Martin with a good combine. He's not as big as Martin, but after his solid showing in the testing I'm thinking he's more of a solid top 60 draft prospect than purely a J.A.G. Andre Williams also had a nice day, which is something that I anticipated. He is all muscle and faster than people gave him credit for. A team wanting a Brandon Jacobs style hammer will be pleased with him.

- At WR, Beckham had a really nice showing. I haven't watched him go through the receiving drills yet, but in his 40 he looked very efficient and athletic. His marks were excellent across the board. He has always been touted as a very good athlete and he did not disappoint today. Brandin Cooks had a great weekend. Add these numbers onto his production and you've got a surefire top 50 pick. I thought Allen Robinson also had a pretty decent weekend. The 4.60 40 will be an eye sore for some, but speed was never his forte and he was solid everywhere else with a higher weight than expected, a good vertical, and a good broad jump. I don't think he will go in the 1st round without 4.55 speed or better, but he solidified his spot in the 2nd. The "freak of the day" award probably goes to Moncrief with his great height/weight/speed/explosiveness numbers. 4.40 is really fast for a man that size and his 11' broad jump was filthy. I don't think he was ever going to slide out of the 3rd round, but with this type of performance I think he will now go in the 2nd for sure. Martavis Bryant had a freaky weekend as well and is a prime candidate to hypnotize somebody into using an early pick on him.

- Devonta Freeman and Davante Adams weren't horrible, but just by virtue of other players at their positions doing better, they'll probably slip down the rankings a bit.

Spot on - nice summary. Would contend that Andre Williams' day was marred a little by his "receiving" skills.

He isn't going to be a pass catcher. He just isn't. He's terrible in space.

I think if you're optimistic about him you're hoping that he can become something like an Alfred Morris/Brandon Jacobs hybrid. A reasonably fast straight line power back with minimal value in the receiving game. I think his showing today confirmed a lot of my suspicions about him. Williams has very little elusiveness, but to say he's a plodder isn't very inaccurate. The guy is maybe the most impressive "off the bus" physical specimen at RB in this draft and as you saw today he isn't just a slug. Very, very built through the lower body. He is not going to make anybody miss, but nobody will want to tackle this guy:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap2000000328425/Andre-Williams-in-40-yard-dash

I think he's a good fit for non-PPR leagues if anybody still plays in those. In PPR formats he's probably never going to be a RB1, but he could have some top 12-18 seasons.

 

[Milkman]

Omg if Evans goes to Detroit look out.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

I am discounting Carey's combine performance, his game film is too hard to ignore. He plays faster than he tests.

 

[cstu]

WR Jeff Janis had a tremendous day:

Standing 6' 3", 219 lbs:

40 - 4.42 seconds

Vertical - 37.5 inches

Broad - 123 inches

3 cone - 6.64 seconds

20 yard - 3.98 seconds

That beat "I'm Gonna Blow Up The Combine" Watkins in every category except broad jump (3 inch difference). He had very similar numbers to Odell Beckham, yet is 4 inches taller and 23 pounds heavier.

Kid's got deceptive speed and it looks like he had a high motor at the combine.

 

[cstu]

Jeff Janis is just a guy. Was very ordinary at Senior Bowl.

He wasn't ordinary today. This tall, caucasian WR ran a faster 40 than Watkins, Lee, and Seastrunk....

Good production where he played (Div 2)

Led Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (GLIAC) in most major receiving categories after posting 83 receptions for 1,572 yards and 14 touchdowns. 2012: Started in all 11 games, and his 1,635 receiving yards were the most in Division II. 2011

I wouldn't be so fast to write this guy off.....

He tested well in the events, but IMO he showed poor hands in positional drills. Pretty much exactly what his scouting report says. Great athlete with small hands and doesn't catch the ball well. Add to it he struggled at the Sr. Bowl and I'm thinking he's more hype than substance.

Chances are high that he won't make it in the NFL, but if he was black people would be hyping like they did this guy:

Brian Quick - 6-4, 220, 4.50, 4.23 20SS, 7.20 3C.

 

[Catbird]

Why would you say something that dumb?

 

[Eminence]

If you guys are discounting Seastrunk, that's kinda dumb in my book.

He's clearly the fastest RB, numbers be damned.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

If you guys are discounting Seastrunk, that's kinda dumb in my book.

He's clearly the fastest RB, numbers be damned.

The 40 has its uses, but some of these guys struggle out of the blocks and may not run with proper sprinter's form. Like Coolnerd said, some of the "dropping" and "rising" due to a few drills is a little overblown. It obviously matters to some extent or the NFL teams wouldn't waste so many resources on it - but there's too many factors involved to over-react based on tenths of a second in a style NFL players will never use again.

 

[MattFancy]

If you guys are discounting Seastrunk, that's kinda dumb in my book.

He's clearly the fastest RB, numbers be damned.

Agreed. We've all seen the dude can fly. How often are RBs/WRs running from a sprinter's stance anyway? Should make these guys start out like they would at their position. Would make it more interesting.

 

[tdmills]

If you guys are discounting Seastrunk, that's kinda dumb in my book.

He's clearly the fastest RB, numbers be damned.

Agreed. We've all seen the dude can fly. How often are RBs/WRs running from a sprinter's stance anyway? Should make these guys start out like they would at their position. Would make it more interesting.

Wearing shoulder pads/ helmet and carrying a football.

 

[identikit]

Looks like the link I posted earlier is now up-to-date (3-cone, ss, etc):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseLAGMydisldHE0Rl9kOGxPXzhPckREX3NQd0dQTGc&usp=drive_web#gid=1

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Clowey's unofficial 10 yard split was 1.56. 4.47 40.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Clowney with an unofficial 4.47 40

Faster than all but FIVE RB's!

 

[voiceofunreason]

Clowney with an unofficial 4.47 40

Faster than all but FIVE RB's!

Crazy. Aaron Donald also put up a pretty great time for a 285 lber and his 10 yard split was just below Clowney. Interested to see the official times.

 

[jurb26]

In case you need a reminder, Clowney is a beast.

He, unlike Watkins, will blow up the combine. Best physical specimen I've ever seen.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Looks like the link I posted earlier is now up-to-date (3-cone, ss, etc):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseLAGMydisldHE0Rl9kOGxPXzhPckREX3NQd0dQTGc&usp=drive_web#gid=1

remind me what the cutoff of the 3-cone for RBs/WRs is for elite/good/terrible

Thanks

 

[MoveToSkypager]

They superimposed Clowney's 40 with Cam's. Clowney finished a foot ahead of Newton. Clowney is going to have a low 4.6 high 4.5 official time. Still pretty monstrous.

 

[jurb26]

They superimposed Clowney's 40 with Cam's. Clowney finished a foot ahead of Newton. Clowney is going to have a low 4.6 high 4.5 official time. Still pretty monstrous.

They also superimposed him vs. Manziel and he was more than a yard ahead of him. I think he's easily in the 4.5s.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Sometimes Oftentimes Mayock needs to shut up. He spends 45 seconds railing on Clowney for sitting out a drill, while another guy is going. Then he complains since Clowney sat out, they missed commenting on the guy doing the drill.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

They superimposed Clowney's 40 with Cam's. Clowney finished a foot ahead of Newton. Clowney is going to have a low 4.6 high 4.5 official time. Still pretty monstrous.

They also superimposed him vs. Manziel and he was more than a yard ahead of him. I think he's easily in the 4.5s.

My prediction is 4.57

 

[Milkman]

Looks like the link I posted earlier is now up-to-date (3-cone, ss, etc):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseLAGMydisldHE0Rl9kOGxPXzhPckREX3NQd0dQTGc&usp=drive_web#gid=1

remind me what the cutoff of the 3-cone for RBs/WRs is for elite/good/terribleThanks

I would like to know this. Christine Michaels 3 cone was 6.69 I believe.

 

[Deuceman]

Sapp didn't mean to say that I'm sure...."Something in the steroids, I mean milk"....LOL

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Quick and dirty using the 254 RBs I've got the results for...

6.74 is the 90th percentile

7.05 mean

7.03 median

7.50 is the 10th percentile

 

[cstu]

Just watched Watkins run his first 40 (unofficial 4.34). Who thinks he is small??? They guy is 6 "1" and looks pretty muscular (big shoulders) to me. Anyone who thinks an inch is going to matter comparing him to Julio Jones is mistaken in my opinion. He looks much thicker than AJ a Green. I think he will be able to match up with physical corners. Watkins also is a great receiver (competes well for football, great hands, high points ball, etc). I was sold before but am more convinced after seeing him without pads and burn his 40. Someone on NFL network just compared him with Josh Gordon. I see it now. He could be as good as anyone in the league one day.

He's damn near a clone of Blackmon. Slightly better in most tests (not as much as expected) and of course he looks more athletic on tape. I know what Blackmon did on the field so I have zero doubts about Watkins.

 

[hagmania]

Verdict on Jordan Matthews from yesterday? Would love to see him make more money with a good combine, I loved watching him on the field.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Looks like the link I posted earlier is now up-to-date (3-cone, ss, etc):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AseLAGMydisldHE0Rl9kOGxPXzhPckREX3NQd0dQTGc&usp=drive_web#gid=1

remind me what the cutoff of the 3-cone for RBs/WRs is for elite/good/terribleThanks

Quick and dirty using the 254 RBs I've got the results for...

6.74 is the 90th percentile

7.05 mean

7.03 median

7.50 is the 10th percentile

Nice post. This may help as well http://mockdraftable.com/position/2/

 

[Faust]

A few more of the workout numbers:

2014 NFL combine results: Bench Press (Running Backs)

2014 NFL combine results: Bench Press (Wide Receivers)

2014 NFL combine results: 40-Yard Dash (Wide Receivers)

2014 NFL combine results: 40-yard dash (Quarterbacks)

2014 NFL combine results: Vertical Jump (Offensive Linemen)

2014 NFL combine results: Vertical Jump (Tight Ends)

2014 NFL combine results: Broad Jump (Running Backs)

2014 NFL combine results: Broad Jump (Wide Receivers)

2014 NFL combine results: Broad Jump (Quarterbacks)

2014 NFL combine results: Vertical Jump (Quarterbacks)

2014 NFL combine results: Vertical Jump (Running Backs)

2014 NFL combine results: Vertical Jump (Wide Receivers)

2014 NFL combine results: 3-Cone Drill (Quarterbacks)

2014 NFL combine results: 20-Yard Shuttle (Tight Ends)

2014 NFL combine results: 40-Yard Dash (Running Backs)

2014 NFL combine results: Bench Press (Defensive Linemen)

2014 NFL combine results: Bench Press (Linebackers)

 

[Faust]

San Diego State RB Adam Muema leaves Combine early, cites religion

 

[Faust]

2014 NFL combine: Five Takeaways from Sunday

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

February 23, 2014 4:44 pm ET

INDIANAPOLIS -- Central Florida's Blake Bortles took advantage of the spotlight provided with the other high profile quarterbacks opting not to compete at the combine, impressing with his poise, accuracy and arm strength during passing drills.

For a quarterback too often characterized as raw, Bortles was smooth in his set up and release, tossing darts down the field. His accuracy and footwork on his three-step drops were excellent, showing very good rhythm, timing and precision to rip it with very good target placement. He was a tick late with his seven-step drops and has room to improve his feet and balance in this area, but Bortles was still able to be accurate down the field, especially on deep bucket throws.

His stellar throwing session could help vault him into the No. 1 overall pick.

Unfortunately, the workouts weren't as impressive for some other high profile players, including Arizona running back Ka'Deem Carey, who was officially clocked at 4.70 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

These were the five biggest takeaways of the day:

5. Clemson wide receiver Sammy Watkins provided some quantitative evidence of his explosiveness, running the 40-yard dash in 4.43 seconds at 6-feet-1, 211 pounds. Watkins' burst is obvious on tape, and therefore the impressive speed in Indianapolis confirms his top-10 status rather than pushing him into it.

Two other underclassmen whose impressive workouts Sunday could push them into the first round are Oregon State's Brandin Cooks and LSU's Odell Beckham.

The 5-10, 189-pound Cooks was the fastest receiver tested in Indianapolis, clocking in at a sizzling 4.33 seconds in the Combine's premier event. Beckham, 5-11, 199 pounds, wasn't quite as fast at 4.46 seconds but starred during the positional drills, demonstrating remarkable athleticism, body control and sticky hands.

Small-schoolers John Brown (Pittsburgh State) and Jeff Janis (Saginaw Valley State) proved their athleticism by clocking in 4.34 and 4.42 seconds, respectively.

4. The 40-yard dash generates the most buzz but it was the all-around explosiveness demonstrated by Baylor's Tevin Reese and Georgia Southern's Jerick McKinnon that resulted in the day's most impressive individual workouts.

Nicknamed "Sweet Feet," Reese lived up to his reputation, leading all wide receivers with a 41-inch vertical jump and an 11-foot broad jump after clocking in at 4.46 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

As the numbers suggest, Reese is a phenomenal athlete. Better yet, his athleticism translates onto the field, where 22 of Reese's 25 career touchdowns covered at least 40 yards. As one might expect given his rail-thin 5-10, 163-pound frame, however, Reese relies on his speed to beat defenses over the top, demonstrating little physicality or grit. He predominately ran vertical routes at Baylor and projects as strictly a big play threat in the NFL.

McKinnon, a 5-9, 209-pound former option quarterback who will be asked to play running back in the NFL, also showcased remarkable athleticism, matching Reese in the broad jump and posting a 40½-inch vertical jump -- one inch lower than another Baylor Bear, Lache Seastrunk, to lead all running backs. McKinnon led all backs with 34 repetitions in the bench press and was unofficially clocked at 4.35 seconds in the 40-yard dash, the third best time among runners.

3. As predicted in this space yesterday, South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney was not as impressive in the bench press drills as he'll prove in the 40-yard dash and vertical jump. The 6-5, 266 pounder lifted the bar "just" 21 times -- a number topped by seven running backs.

It is important recognize that the bench press measures strength and endurance -- not necessarily the explosiveness so obvious in Clowney's game. Further, the bench press isn't an apples-to-apples comparison as Clowney's extremely long arms (34½ inches) make lifting the bar more difficult for him than for most.

Finally, it is worth recalling how some of the NFL's elite defensive ends fared in the bench press during their respective Combine workouts. Julius Peppers (Chicago Bears), Jason Pierre-Paul (New York Giants) and Robert Quinn (St. Louis Rams) registered 24, 19 and 22 reps.

2. Jason Verrett entered the 2013 season as arguably the top senior cornerback prospect in the country, but a shoulder injury suffered in Game 3 vs. Texas Tech spoiled his final season at TCU. Now with his collegiate career in the rearview mirror, Verrett can focus on draft preparations, but that shoulder issue still lingers.

"I had a torn labrum, the back of my labrum," Verrett said about his shoulder injury. "But I played the rest of the season."

Verrett is scheduled to have surgery after his on-campus pro day March 21, following a similar path as New York Jets' cornerback Dee Milliner, who had labrum surgery after his pro day a year ago. There were some concerns about Milliner's shoulder issue, but that didn't stop the New York Jets from drafting him ninth overall.

When asked if he considered sitting out to heal the injury, Verrett said "not at all" and downplayed the injury, explaining that it's a physical game and sometimes you have to play through the pain.

"I feel like I showed toughness throughout my whole career," Verrett said. "Being the size that I am, I'm going to have to be a lot more physical than the bigger guys."

Size is the "biggest" concern with Verrett who likely will be relegated to nickel duties after measuring in at 5-9, 189 pounds in Indianapolis. He's a tenacious and instinctive player who could challenge for a late first-round selection if teams are confident in his recovery from the surgery.

1. The 2013 draft was the first time in 50 years that a running back was not selected in the first round. History appears likely to repeat itself, especially given shockingly slow times from some of the highest regarded running backs, including Carey, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated back, whose 4.70-second time ranked him 29th out of the 33 running backs tested Sunday.

The 5-9, 207-pound back's staggeringly slow time will certainly drop his draft stock, though he plays much faster than this workout indicates. He's an instinctive, determined runner with good quickness whose soft hands and grit as a pass blocker make him a weapon on all three downs.

Though not as slow as Carey, LSU's Jeremy Hill and Ohio State's Carlos Hyde didn't necessarily help their cause either with each clocking in at 4.66 seconds in the event. Even highly touted speedster De'Anthony Thomas (4.50) and Seastrunk (4.51) came in slower than expected.

On a more positive note, the position provided the fastest player yet to test, with Kent State's Dri Archer covering 40 yards in a blistering 4.26 seconds -- .15 faster than any other running back. Archer, who split time at running back and wide receiver for the Golden Flashes, offers Tavon Austin-like elusiveness and acceleration -- traits that could help him move up the board quickly, though at 5-8, 173 pounds, he's not someone an NFL team is likely to utilize on more than a handful of plays per game.

West Virginia's Charles Sims (4.48) and Washington's Bishop Sankey (4.49) showed better straight-line speed than expected. Also helping their cause is that each is a terrific receiver out of the backfield.

NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst Dane Brugler contributed to this report.

 

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2014 NFL combine: Pitt's Aaron Donald -- not Clowney -- big winner

 

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What we learned: Takeaways from Sunday at NFL combine

 

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What we learned: Takeaways from Sunday at NFL combine

I really enjoy listening to Ford accent in this interview. He is a 6'2" 252 pound sack machine who sounds like Colt McCoy.

Dowling feels disrespectedWestern Kentucky defensive back Jonathan Dowling, a two-time first-team All-Sun Belt selection, thinks he's a lot better than people give him credit for, and he's not afraid to say it. Sunday h was asked what an NFL team would get by drafting him. "I feel like they're getting a diamond. Not even a diamond in the rough. They're getting a pure diamond that's very discernible," Dowling said. "I feel like I make a lot of plays at Western that don't get any respect because I'm in the Sun Belt. ... I got a chip on my shoulder and I'm ready to prove it." That's fine, but the concerns about Dowling have more to do with his tackling and intangibles than the conference he played in.

I watched his video on draft breakdown. Man he is fast for his size. I wonder if he can run in the 4.4s at 6'3".

 

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Notes from Indianapolis

Notes from Indianapolis: Part II

 

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Mike Loyko‏@NEPD_Loyko

Warren Sapp criticizing Clowney for not taking Combine seriously.. He must forget that he failed Multiple drug tests at the combine in 1995

 

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Mike Loyko‏@NEPD_Loyko

Warren Sapp criticizing Clowney for not taking Combine seriously.. He must forget that he failed Multiple drug tests at the combine in 1995

 

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Mike Loyko‏@NEPD_Loyko

Warren Sapp criticizing Clowney for not taking Combine seriously.. He must forget that he failed Multiple drug tests at the combine in 1995

This dude has a serious hardon for Sapp.