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** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (2 Viewers)

Add Ryan Fitzpatrick to the backup QB conversation...
Not a terrible option. We could probably get him for the vet minimum or slightly over.
I'd be on board with that, he's an "OK" option as a backup.
We already have Fitzpatrick. The name on his jersey just says Barkley.
:lol: I'd still trust Fitz more though. The backup QB market sucks as usual. I wouldn't mind drafting another QB.

 
Fitz is perfect as a backup. Not sure how you can compare Barkley to him. Hope we go after him and that seals up the qb situation nicely.

 
Yea zero problem if they get Fitzpatrick. Definitely more confidence in a veteran who has won some games in the league than Barkley right now.

 
I'd like to see them sign a vet QB like Fitz or Shaun Hill, then draft Brett Smith on Day 3. I like Smith as a developmental QB a lot more than Barkley. Let them fight it out in camp.

 
I'd like to see them sign a vet QB like Fitz or Shaun Hill, then draft Brett Smith on Day 3. I like Smith as a developmental QB a lot more than Barkley. Let them fight it out in camp.
Shaun Hill is a UFA? Always thought he was a solid backup, I'd take him over Fitz. I agree that Barkley isn't a good enough project QB, I'd flip him for a pick but I doubt Eagles mangement has changed their minds on him...yet.

 
GIve me Fitz, Hill..whoever. I don't care. Just need some vet body to battle with Barkley, preferably a guy that can win games if we need him to.

 
Seems like a lot of people are ready to write off Barkley, but I'm not one of them. Sure he looked bad last year, but he was a rookie, coming off of shoulder surgery, and basically thrown to the wolves.

I remember a lot of people doing the same last off-season with Foles.

 
I am not more writing him off so much as just not feeling comfortable with him being the #2 going into this season.

 
Seems like a lot of people are ready to write off Barkley, but I'm not one of them. Sure he looked bad last year, but he was a rookie, coming off of shoulder surgery, and basically thrown to the wolves.

I remember a lot of people doing the same last off-season with Foles.
I was going to post something similar. They obviously need a vet to come in and compete but I wouldn't be surprised if he shows some significant improvement. People are way too quick to write off rookie QBs as busts if they don't come in and light it up in year 1.
 
I am not more writing him off so much as just not feeling comfortable with him being the #2 going into this season.
And thats understandable. They will need a 3rd Qb and who they get I guess will be telling. Do they get another rookie or an aging vet? i think if they wanted a vet they wouldn't have already said Vick will not be back next year.

 
I'm certainly not writing off Barkley as a bust. I'm merely saying that I prefer Brett Smith's skill set. I fully expect that we will sign a veteran backup, and develop a third QB. Smith has intriguing physical attributes, and I'd like to see someone like him competing with Barkley.

 
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I don't want to draft a QB 2 years in a row. Maybe I am in the minority here. But we have a lot of $$ tied up to the offense and a lot of needs on defense. I will be upset if we actually draft a QB with only 6 draft picks as of this post.

 
I don't care what position they draft as long as the continue with best player and don't reach to just fill a need. I do want a veteran Qb but I rather have one with a little upside I'm leaning toward Mark Sanchez. I know he has been a flop but I still think with the right coaching and some consitancy he can become a decent player in the NFL

 
I don't want to draft a QB 2 years in a row. Maybe I am in the minority here. But we have a lot of $$ tied up to the offense and a lot of needs on defense. I will be upset if we actually draft a QB with only 6 draft picks as of this post.
We already drafted QB 2 years in a row. So yea, I kinda agree another development QB is a wasted pick, but who knows... If they see value, I guess we'll see

 
I don't want to draft a QB 2 years in a row. Maybe I am in the minority here. But we have a lot of $$ tied up to the offense and a lot of needs on defense. I will be upset if we actually draft a QB with only 6 draft picks as of this post.
We already drafted QB 2 years in a row. So yea, I kinda agree another development QB is a wasted pick, but who knows... If they see value, I guess we'll see
Foles. Duh. LOL. No more drafting QB's!

 
I don't care what position they draft as long as the continue with best player and don't reach to just fill a need. I do want a veteran Qb but I rather have one with a little upside I'm leaning toward Mark Sanchez. I know he has been a flop but I still think with the right coaching and some consitancy he can become a decent player in the NFL
I've been saying for a bit I'd take a shot on Sanchez. The guy showed flashes of being able to play but has had a lot of bad snowball on him the last couple years. Give him a chance to learn with no pressure and we can see if he can be salvaged.

 
I don't care what position they draft as long as the continue with best player and don't reach to just fill a need. I do want a veteran Qb but I rather have one with a little upside I'm leaning toward Mark Sanchez. I know he has been a flop but I still think with the right coaching and some consitancy he can become a decent player in the NFL
I've been saying for a bit I'd take a shot on Sanchez. The guy showed flashes of being able to play but has had a lot of bad snowball on him the last couple years. Give him a chance to learn with no pressure and we can see if he can be salvaged.
I agree with both of you, he needs to get out of that organization but his confidence might be permanently damaged beyond repair. I'm fine with any of Fitz, Hill, Sanchez as backup.
 
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How about Freeman? Thought he might get a little buzz this offseason as a potential starter somewhere, but he has yet to pop up on the radar. (Maybe his new nickname should be Malaysian Air?)

 
Seems like a lot of people are ready to write off Barkley, but I'm not one of them. Sure he looked bad last year, but he was a rookie, coming off of shoulder surgery, and basically thrown to the wolves.

I remember a lot of people doing the same last off-season with Foles.
I was going to post something similar. They obviously need a vet to come in and compete but I wouldn't be surprised if he shows some significant improvement. People are way too quick to write off rookie QBs as busts if they don't come in and light it up in year 1.
Totally agree. The truth is that we don't really know what we have in Barkley yet.

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....
Anyone else a little unsure of this??

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....
Anyone else a little unsure of this??
Not me. Love the kid.

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....
Anyone else a little unsure of this??
Not me. Love the kid.
I think he would be fantastic in a 4-3 as DT. However he is playing in a 3-4 as DE and will want to get paid as a DE. I am not sure how they will justify paying a DE price tag for a player that only had 3 sacks. Don't get me wrong, I would love him in my 4-3, just not sure he is the best option as a 3-4 DE with the money he will want.

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....
Anyone else a little unsure of this??
Not me. Love the kid.
I think he would be fantastic in a 4-3 as DT. However he is playing in a 3-4 as DE and will want to get paid as a DE. I am not sure how they will justify paying a DE price tag for a player that only had 3 sacks. Don't get me wrong, I would love him in my 4-3, just not sure he is the best option as a 3-4 DE with the money he will want.
If he wants JJ watts money, then no, we won't. We'll see how he progresses in year two of the new system I'd love to see him extended though. I'm more unsure about Kendricks, he seems very hot and cold - want to see some consistency out of him. This year will be telling for these players now that the 'learning a new system' excuse is gone.

 
Nate Allen resigned to a 1 year deal.
Smart move.
Probably an inexpensive move, anyway. Smart is up for debate.
1 year 1 million. Seems like a good move that will allow flexibility in the draft.
Schefter revised the number

@AdamSchefter: Eagles actually are giving S Nate Allen a 1-yr, $2M deal with another $1M in play-time incentives, giving him chance to earn up to $3M.

 
What should the Birds' FA priority be at this point? Edge rusher, nose tackle or box safety? Slim pickings all around. But they should have enough cash and cachet to get anyone they target at this point.
I think they're going to try and carry as much cap as possible to next year, when we'll want to extend Cox, Boykin, Foles, maybe Kendricks, etc....
Anyone else a little unsure of this??
Not me. Love the kid.
I think he would be fantastic in a 4-3 as DT. However he is playing in a 3-4 as DE and will want to get paid as a DE. I am not sure how they will justify paying a DE price tag for a player that only had 3 sacks. Don't get me wrong, I would love him in my 4-3, just not sure he is the best option as a 3-4 DE with the money he will want.
Never understood the love this guy gets. Yeah he's OK but I think there's a little "best looking girl in the trailer park" dynamic going on with him in relation to the other bums they've had with him on defense. He is an interesting case regarding the contract he gets.
 
Nate Allen resigned to a 1 year deal.
Smart move.
Probably an inexpensive move, anyway. Smart is up for debate.
1 year 1 million. Seems like a good move that will allow flexibility in the draft.
Schefter revised the number

@AdamSchefter: Eagles actually are giving S Nate Allen a 1-yr, $2M deal with another $1M in play-time incentives, giving him chance to earn up to $3M.
Ok. Still a good deal. :thumbup:

 
Nate Allen resigned to a 1 year deal.
Smart move.
Probably an inexpensive move, anyway. Smart is up for debate.
1 year 1 million. Seems like a good move that will allow flexibility in the draft.
Schefter revised the number@AdamSchefter: Eagles actually are giving S Nate Allen a 1-yr, $2M deal with another $1M in play-time incentives, giving him chance to earn up to $3M.
Ok. Still a good deal. :thumbup:
Would have preferred they tack on another million and offer it to Ihedigbo.

 
Nate Allen resigned to a 1 year deal.
Smart move.
Probably an inexpensive move, anyway. Smart is up for debate.
1 year 1 million. Seems like a good move that will allow flexibility in the draft.
Schefter revised the number@AdamSchefter: Eagles actually are giving S Nate Allen a 1-yr, $2M deal with another $1M in play-time incentives, giving him chance to earn up to $3M.
Ok. Still a good deal. :thumbup:
Would have preferred they tack on another million and offer it to Ihedigbo.
Potato vs Potahto type of thing for me. I still think our long term answer will be in the draft. Level of competition would not change too much with Ihedigbo IMO.

 
Something interesting:


On Easter 2010, I felt a pretty good jolt of an earthquake. It was a 7.2. Pretty big deal. We traded Donovan McNabb the same day. That turned into the #37 overall pick in that upcoming draft, and we signed Nate Allen.

Today, I felt the first once since then - a small jolt, a 4.4 earthquake. Coincidentally, we signed Nate Allen to a small 1-year deal.

Freaky.
 
More speculation about Jackson:

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/17/desean-upset-eagles-silent/#.UybqqqvkAYE.twitter

Nothing new but it's interesting the organization won't confirm his status. May be just media nonsense, time will tell.
Where there's smoke there's fire.I wouldn't be opposed to it. Multiple picks for him in this draft would do it for me.
I don't know if I would be ok with losing him. Offer would have to be an overpayment I think to let him go, and with his salary/cap hit I doubt that happens.
 
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Something interesting:


On Easter 2010, I felt a pretty good jolt of an earthquake. It was a 7.2. Pretty big deal. We traded Donovan McNabb the same day. That turned into the #37 overall pick in that upcoming draft, and we signed Nate Allen.

Today, I felt the first once since then - a small jolt, a 4.4 earthquake. Coincidentally, we signed Nate Allen to a small 1-year deal.

Freaky.
lol I think calling that a coincidence is a bit of a stretch :P

 
More speculation about Jackson:http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/17/desean-upset-eagles-silent/#.UybqqqvkAYE.twitter

Nothing new but it's interesting the organization won't confirm his status. May be just media nonsense, time will tell.
Where there's smoke there's fire.I wouldn't be opposed to it. Multiple picks for him in this draft woulid do it for me.
I don't know if I would be ok with losing him. Offer would have to be an overpayment I think to let him go, and with his salary/cap hit I doubt that happens.
Iwouldn't deal him for anything less than a first. Depending on where you pick you could replace him with maybe evans or lee.
 
More speculation about Jackson:http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/17/desean-upset-eagles-silent/#.UybqqqvkAYE.twitter

Nothing new but it's interesting the organization won't confirm his status. May be just media nonsense, time will tell.
Where there's smoke there's fire.I wouldn't be opposed to it. Multiple picks for him in this draft woulid do it for me.
I don't know if I would be ok with losing him. Offer would have to be an overpayment I think to let him go, and with his salary/cap hit I doubt that happens.
Iwouldn't deal him for anything less than a first. Depending on where you pick you could replace him with maybe evans or lee.
I'd be on board with replacing him with Evans.

 
How much of this could be sports science related? Kelly has to know that the window for Desean is small given his size and he also doesn't have the best attitude. Could just be trying to sell high on a WR that may not have many highly productive years left.

 
I hope DeSean is gone. For the crap he brings to this team and even now in the off season he can't just be cool and chill out, I say trade the man. But the biggest reason I say trade the man is that it took Chip Kelly and a threat of being on the 2nd team to finally get him to play at a level we all knew he could. Even after that he couldn't keep it together for a whole season and lost it against the Vikes. I mean where the hell has he been for 5 seasons? Its not like he all of a sudden got better. Its the system, not Jackson's ability that put up the numbers he got this year.

Adios my man. :bye:

 
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