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** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (5 Viewers)

Bigboy10182000 said:
Snotbubbles said:
I also can't believe the Eagles are interested in Mike Mitchell. They could have had the guy last offseason. If they give him a multi-year deal with guaranteed money, I will throw up.
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Is he that bad?
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He was absolutely mediocre in Oakland. The guy couldn't even start in Oakland. I think he had like 9 or 10 starts in 4 years. He became a FA and was signed to a 1 year deal with Carolina and had a career year. IMO, the guy is a product of the really strong front 7 of Carolina and will be Patrick Chung exposed here.

 
Snotbubbles said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Snotbubbles said:
I also can't believe the Eagles are interested in Mike Mitchell. They could have had the guy last offseason. If they give him a multi-year deal with guaranteed money, I will throw up.
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Is he that bad?
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He was absolutely mediocre in Oakland. The guy couldn't even start in Oakland. I think he had like 9 or 10 starts in 4 years. He became a FA and was signed to a 1 year deal with Carolina and had a career year. IMO, the guy is a product of the really strong front 7 of Carolina and will be Patrick Chung exposed here.
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@SheilKapadia: Three Eagles numbers that matter (free agency edition): On Mike Mitchell's tackling, Cole's future and the WR market. http://t.co/usbAKU45kw

18 The number of missed tackles last year for Panthers safety Mike Mitchell, according to Pro Football Focus. That was tied for most among safeties.

As we've mentioned in this space, the Eagles are one of the teams that has looked into signing Mitchell. But it seems like many of you would be against the move based solely on the missed tackles number. And that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Regular Birds 24/7 readers know I like incorporating stats when they make sense. But statistical analysis is extremely difficult with safeties, who oftentimes aren't even in the TV shot. Take Mitchell, for example. He played 920 total snaps. Let's assume for a second that his missed tackles came on 18 different plays. That is still a limited sample that accounts for less than 2 percent of his overall snaps. In other words, roughly 98 percent of the time, he was on the field for a play where he didn't miss a tackle. How did he perform in those instances?

Missed tackles are subjective. The number can vary depending on who's doing the charting, and a difference of two missed tackles can make a world of difference when using terms like tackling efficiency. Also, most safeties are going to have high numbers (14 of them missed at least 14 tackles, per PFF, including Earl Thomas). And three, tackling is something a player can improve on. We saw that last year with Nate Allen.

Tackling is obviously an important part of playing defense for any NFL player. But it is still only a part of the big picture. Mitchell (6 feet, 210) has good size and can run, plus he's only 26-years-old. Granted, he played on a team with a talented front seven last year, but Mitchell did a good job on the back end.

Given the market, I still think he's a decent mid-tier option for the Eagles.
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@evansilva: Seems free agent FS Jairus Byrd's price is already coming down. Initially said to be seeking $9M per year, now reports say $8M annually.

 
DeSean would be out, WOW. Guess if that occurs we would have Maclin move into the DeSean spot. Quickness and speed lost at the position, although Maclin's knee being what it was post injury puts him close to as quick as Jackson. Deep speed it's a loss at WR, no question. Very few guys in the league stretch a defense deep like DeSean Jackson.

Who would be the #3 with Avant also gone? Benn, D. Johnson not going to start there. Vet or rookie wide receiver becomes a huge need. And, might definitely mean many more two TE sets.

 
Mighty Mice said:
DeSean would be out, WOW. Guess if that occurs we would have Maclin move into the DeSean spot. Quickness and speed lost at the position, although Maclin's knee being what it was post injury puts him close to as quick as Jackson. Deep speed it's a loss at WR, no question. Very few guys in the league stretch a defense deep like DeSean Jackson.

Who would be the #3 with Avant also gone? Benn, D. Johnson not going to start there. Vet or rookie wide receiver becomes a huge need. And, might definitely mean many more two TE sets.
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IF that were to happen the #3 would be the rookie we pick with one or first two picks.

If not a rookie then a low level FA like Andre Roberts

 
Man I can't believe this will happen. I don't see how his attitude is THAT bad. And it's not like he's not producing.

 
I saw this:

@BenVolin: RT @alexmarvez: .@Buccaneers stepping up efforts to trade CB Darrelle Revis, source tells @FOXSports1

Would YOU deal Jackson straight up for Revis?

 
Terpman22 said:
Man I can't believe this will happen. I don't see how his attitude is THAT bad. And it's not like he's not producing.
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I don't think it happens. There's thinking about it and then there's actually doing it. It's unprecedented for a player to have a career year while still under contract and get cut. He's producing, he's still here. Probably means he's gone after 2015 though and I guarantee one of the first 3 picks is a WR with all these rumblings.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
I saw this:

@BenVolin: RT @alexmarvez: .@Buccaneers stepping up efforts to trade CB Darrelle Revis, source tells @FOXSports1

Would YOU deal Jackson straight up for Revis?
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No. You wait for him to be released then sign him to a friendlier cap number. Regardless of their intention with Jackson, you don't burn an asset needlessly for a CB making QB money. And what a joke some of these franchises are, it's stories like this that make me appreciate what we have at the top.
 
JetMaxx said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
I saw this:

@BenVolin: RT @alexmarvez: .@Buccaneers stepping up efforts to trade CB Darrelle Revis, source tells @FOXSports1

Would YOU deal Jackson straight up for Revis?
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No. You wait for him to be released then sign him to a friendlier cap number. Regardless of their intention with Jackson, you don't burn an asset needlessly for a CB making QB money. And what a joke some of these franchises are, it's stories like this that make me appreciate what we have at the top.
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the way Revis' contract is structured, you can pay him his salary upfront and it drastically reduces his cap number. His contract was written so Bucs could get rid of him with no penalty
 
According to former Jets front office exec Ari Nissim, Jets, Browns, Raiders, and Eagles are all interested in Revis. Believe Eagles have the smallest cap room of all four teams.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
@EliotShorrParks: The #Eagles are reportedly showing strong interest in T.J. Ward. http://t.co/UPZm3fATaM
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Then this:

Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet2 mins

Curious to see where coveted safety TJ Ward lands. Lions interested and have the $$. Dolphins, Redskins? Not Eagles, though. Not in the mix

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl1 min

#Eagles have not spoken to the agent for T.J. Ward, per source. Ward just doesn't fit what they need. Teams see him more as a box safety.

 
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Bigboy10182000 said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
@EliotShorrParks: The #Eagles are reportedly showing strong interest in T.J. Ward. http://t.co/UPZm3fATaM
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Then this:

Ian Rapoport‏@RapSheet2 mins

Curious to see where coveted safety TJ Ward lands. Lions interested and have the $$. Dolphins, Redskins? Not Eagles, though. Not in the mix

Adam Caplan‏@caplannfl1 min

#Eagles have not spoken to the agent for T.J. Ward, per source. Ward just doesn't fit what they need. Teams see him more as a box safety.
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Apparently Caplan missed our playoff game when the pass happy Saints ran the ball down our throat .

 
Awful Waffle said:
According to former Jets front office exec Ari Nissim, Jets, Browns, Raiders, and Eagles are all interested in Revis. Believe Eagles have the smallest cap room of all four teams.
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This is countered somewhat by the Eagles being probably the most attractive franchise of those 4.

 
Adam Schefter said the two most likely teams to sign Revis after he's released are the Patriots and Eagles. Wouldnt mind having him at a more reasonable price than $16mil.

 
Insein said:
Adam Schefter said the two most likely teams to sign Revis after he's released are the Patriots and Eagles. Wouldnt mind having him at a more reasonable price than $16mil.
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He's a lock to get 10 IMO. I know I'm the minority here but to me he comes off as a high priced cancer. I don't want him at all.

 
Insein said:
Adam Schefter said the two most likely teams to sign Revis after he's released are the Patriots and Eagles. Wouldnt mind having him at a more reasonable price than $16mil.
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I think he will be 29 by the time the season starts. Not sure how I feel about him at even at 12M

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
Adam Schefter said the two most likely teams to sign Revis after he's released are the Patriots and Eagles. Wouldnt mind having him at a more reasonable price than $16mil.
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He's a lock to get 10 IMO. I know I'm the minority here but to me he comes off as a high priced cancer. I don't want him at all.
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I understand the reluctance but he has talent. If he's healthy, then he's worth it.

 
Insein said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Insein said:
Adam Schefter said the two most likely teams to sign Revis after he's released are the Patriots and Eagles. Wouldnt mind having him at a more reasonable price than $16mil.
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He's a lock to get 10 IMO. I know I'm the minority here but to me he comes off as a high priced cancer. I don't want him at all.
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I understand the reluctance but he has talent. If he's healthy, then he's worth it.
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I dont want the mouth part though. I get the talent but as soon as Chip does something he doesnt care for it will be all over the place.

 
Put me in the "interested but reluctant" camp for Revis. He is an enormously talented player, but his health is still in question. I just wouldn't be comfortable investing upwards of $10M/yr in him, especially considering that our defense is more than just one player away, and he doesn't even fill our biggest need.

No doubt Richard Sherman will be monitoring the situation very closely.

 
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@RapSheet: Would be really surprised if #Redskins were in on Jairus Byrd, from what Im hearing. Well see his market. Return to Bills still possible

 
Sal Pal checked in with 97.5 saying Eagles have had discussions with Byrd, not signed and nothing imminent but they are talking.

:coffee:

 
@Jeff_McLane: Got this from an NFL executive not in the Jairus Byrd sweepstakes: "Good player, but not clean health. I would not give him a ton of money."

 
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