Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
With so much uncertainly surrounding the Big 12 and potential expansion, realignment, superconferences, etc., is there any chance a weakened Baylor gets left on the outside when all of the dust settles?
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The Commish
Footballguy
The video is pretty good....can't link it from here for some reason though.Saban, however, doesn’t seem to care much for Harbaugh’s opinion.
“That’s his business. I don’t really care what he thinks or tweet,” Saban told ESPN on Wednesday. “I say what I think is best for college football and say what I think is best for the players and the kids. As I said (Tuesday), it’s not about him or anybody else.”
culdeus
Footballguy
Not a chance. I mean you would have to take SMU at that point.
And who would want to join the Big 12 at this point? Who would even make sense to on either side? They made a fortune on what could be the last mega TV deal. Why divide that up to more parties? Makes way more sense to stay at 10 and divide by 10 (Texas excluded, obviously) rather than divide by 12 or 14. A CCG won't make up the gap in adding more teams and the extra costs incurred.
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Yeah, I watched the video. Hard to see clearly, but two women went at it hard core. There were kids and all kinds of people standing around screaming. This guy jumped in and at first, looked like he was trying to break them up. But obviously, he lost it and started taking swings at one of the gals. Pretty ugly situation, but I don't think he's in the same category as a Greg Hardy or Ray Rice viewing this video.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Doesn't staying at 10 teams and playing a true round-robin schedule go against this thinking?
General Malaise
Footballguy
UTEP doesn't seem to have any scruples. See Price, Mike.
If I'm Kansas, I'm considering Briles at this point. You've really got nothing to lose as your program is perhaps the worst in the country. Gulp hard and make the hire I say.
Capella
Footballguy
Holy #### Briles at auburn would be amazing.
Also love the lower-tier sec shade. @Fat Drunk and Stupid
Also love the lower-tier sec shade. @Fat Drunk and Stupid
culdeus
Footballguy
I thought Big 12 got an extra NCG over the larger ones?
well #### me doesn't look that way at least comparing Texas to Alabama
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Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
Round-robin means 9 conference games ... so only room for 3 nonconference games.
Pac-12 also plays nine conference games. Every other FBS conference plays eight.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Haven't they already sullied themselves with Petrino? Like your thinking, however.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Like very much. UTEP could become the ultimate outlaw school with Briles hanging 80 every week on the likes of Tulsa and Southern Miss and his merry band of brigands assaulting Mexican girls willy-nilly.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
gump
Footballguy
Tony Brown...5-star CB who sat out the playoff and won't likely play this season.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea. I think the part about him endangering the female population (paraphrasing) is pretty tough to recover from.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
People thought this would ruin the FSU-Miami rivalry too.
Miami ended up taking care of that by just being piss awful. They've never met in the ACC title game.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
FYP. This isn't like the ACC where it didn't really matter as much how the geography worked out. Here, it does. There's zero reason to separate OU - OSU for the sake of the rivalry vs. a potential title game.
The Commish
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
SEC honks....thoughts on your new commish? Improvement? Regression? Remaining constant? compared to his predecessor
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Shark move for Oklahoma is to scoop up some of those Baylor recruits who want to bail ASAP!
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
SEC
BIG 10
BIG 12
In that order for money. Big 12 getting 30 million per team each year, with a little more now with a Championship game in the mix starting 2017. Was a lot of talk yesterday on sports news with 50/50 split on adding teams, and the Championship game. A lot of complaining "what if" you have to play a team back to back weeks? That I don't understand who cares if you have to play a team back to back. Let the best team win, and let competition reign. I would love to see OU and OSU split into different divisions and maybe every now and again face each other for the Big 12 Championship.
BIG 10
BIG 12
In that order for money. Big 12 getting 30 million per team each year, with a little more now with a Championship game in the mix starting 2017. Was a lot of talk yesterday on sports news with 50/50 split on adding teams, and the Championship game. A lot of complaining "what if" you have to play a team back to back weeks? That I don't understand who cares if you have to play a team back to back. Let the best team win, and let competition reign. I would love to see OU and OSU split into different divisions and maybe every now and again face each other for the Big 12 Championship.
gump
Footballguy
The biggest potential problem is if two teams have clinched a CC spot and play late, the late regular season game is completely meaningless. Starters would sit, offenses would be vanilla...a disaster of a rivalry game.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Wouldn't sitting your starters and the potential loss cost that team from gaining a Final 4 spot? Seems that playing and winning out is what teams want to do.
gump
Footballguy
Maybe not. If Bama-LSU played late in '11, the loser still makes the CFP for example. Or the Kick 6. Odds may be somewhat slim but it can happen.
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Capella
Footballguy
The ACC is making almost 30M a year per school (more than the B12 last year) and quite frankly, the big 12 football product isn't really superior.
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Dynamite observation. I wonder if any other P5 schools should try this same strategy?
gump
Footballguy
One of the most popular Hot Seat list coaches gets an extension...the Gus Bus rides on!
Maybe FDS can explain it better...but it appears at a glance that AU gave a coach no one was going to hire away at his previous salary a 1 year raise...which really doesn't mean much if he turns it around...but increases the payment if he gets fired to over $2.25M per year remaining?
Maybe FDS can explain it better...but it appears at a glance that AU gave a coach no one was going to hire away at his previous salary a 1 year raise...which really doesn't mean much if he turns it around...but increases the payment if he gets fired to over $2.25M per year remaining?
I stopped trying to understand Jay Jacobs a long time ago. We've got a guy in the AD office who only cares if his football coach loves Jesus, and is an "Auburn Man". He makes money in fundraising, so the President loves him. Success in revenue sports seem to be secondary to a lot of things for JJ.
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timschochet
Footballguy
I think Gus Malzahn is the most brilliant offensive mind in football, at least in college. He's worth every penny, IMO.
gump
Footballguy
This extension is a little confusing...other than Jacobs just making it clear he's going the way Gus goes no matter what. Does Gus survive another year like the last two?
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I think that would be Jimbo.
That guy made Jamarcus Russell and Christian Ponder first rounders.
Yeah. This endorsement from Tim is all the evidence I need to say Auburn should fire Gus ASAP
Capella
Footballguy
bigmarc27
Footballguy
On the recruiting front, Clemson commit Hunter Johnson apparently dominated:
Also Johnson is number 4 overall now, not 12
Elite 11 coaches: Johnson is our No. 1 pick
Clemson five-star 2017 commit QB Hunter Johnson is headed to Elite 11.
When Elite 11 coaches were asked which quarterback they would choose to build a college program around, they answered Johnson by a big majority. Johnson "is a compelling athlete who can create opportunities by prolonging plays," wrote B/R's Tyler Donohoe, who "throws the prettiest spirals in this class" and has "the blend of touch and zip that scouts covet." Elite 11 counselors also named Johnson the quarterback most likely to succeed in any scheme. Johnson is Rivals' No. 12 overall recruit and the site's No. 1 overall quarterback.
Source: Bleacher Report
Jun 6 - 8:58 PM
Also Johnson is number 4 overall now, not 12
Elite 11 coaches: Johnson is our No. 1 pick
Clemson five-star 2017 commit QB Hunter Johnson is headed to Elite 11.
When Elite 11 coaches were asked which quarterback they would choose to build a college program around, they answered Johnson by a big majority. Johnson "is a compelling athlete who can create opportunities by prolonging plays," wrote B/R's Tyler Donohoe, who "throws the prettiest spirals in this class" and has "the blend of touch and zip that scouts covet." Elite 11 counselors also named Johnson the quarterback most likely to succeed in any scheme. Johnson is Rivals' No. 12 overall recruit and the site's No. 1 overall quarterback.
Source: Bleacher Report
Jun 6 - 8:58 PM
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ffldrew
Footballguy
He can't go the whole season with him getting closer to lame duck status - not in this day and age of recruiting - and not to mention the press would be all over is he staying or going. It's the price you would have to pay.
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gump
Footballguy
He was closer to lame duck, but not there yet...seems like they could have waited a year to see if he was going to make it another.
So I agree that they wanted to show he was staying regardless. So if he wins 6 games?
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psychobillies
Footballguy
Impossible. They have Kevin Steele now.gump said:
ffldrew
Footballguy
This is the even year schedule and the way the schedule lines up - 6 wins will be a bottom line effective job. Clemson and LSU at home will be tough wins to achieve - he needs a split of those. After that you have opportunities when they visit both Ole Miss and State - an uphill climb where hopefully the turmoil in both those programs help - he needs a split here as well. Then there are the road battles against their rivals in Athens and Tuscaloosa - and those are going to be near impossible, So realistically 6 wins is good - 8 is possible. It's the odd year schedule he needs to make his mark in next year and 6 wins then is a fireable offense.gump said:
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
And now according to this, the ACC is going to consider going to a nine-game schedule:
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/teel-blog/dp-teel-time-acc-nine-revisit-post.html
I've mentioned this before, but at what point do some of these P5 conferences realize the downside of limiting (or even eliminating) their games against G5 or FCS schools? The ACC went 37-19 in nonconference (reg. season) games last season. Adding a ninth conference game is a guaranteed seven losses for the league, so it stands to reason that some of those games probably would have been wins otherwise. What happens if it starts costing leagues bowl spots?
That story also notes one other thing I've mentioned before ... " An expanded conference schedule also complicated some schools' desire for seven home games and their corresponding windfall. "
That's one big reason why I'm skeptical that some form of "superconference" format will ever work. Because, under that premise, I don't see any way that P5 teams will be able to continue to play seven home games a season when all of their games are against each other. Not to mention that every "league" needs to have bottom-feeders to balance out the powers. Which current teams that usually are around .500 now are going to want to sign up to be the 3-9 or 2-10 teams every year under a new format, regardless of how good the money might be?
The Commish
Footballguy
I'm not sure it's a big deal. The reason losses were so big pre playoff was because it was cupcakes outside the conference (typically). If the schedules get tougher, the margin for error gets larger. I'd rather them stop the facade and make all the teams in P5 to play other schools from P5. At that point the fun begins IMO.
Dickie Dunn
Footballguy
I guess my point is that it would be a great system for the true "power" teams, but there has to be some tradeoff. Assuming the bowl system stays the way it is now (a big if, but I don't know what it would be under a new superconference format), I think you're probably seeing a lot of these 7-5 and 6-6 P5 teams suddenly struggling to stay afloat. There has to be some counter effect to not being able to beat up on G5s and FCS teams any more ... someone is going to have to be on the losing end of those games.
But I think the bigger issue will be giving up those seventh (or even eighth) home games under a superconference setup. Otherwise, someone is going to be playing five, and who's going to sign up for that?
The Commish
Footballguy
All I know is the B1G was good with moving to 9 conference games even if it meant losing a home game because they were going to make 
regardless. The teams at the top of each conference usually play 7 home games and a "neutral" game these days anyway and they aren't hurting. They are getting stronger.
regardless. The teams at the top of each conference usually play 7 home games and a "neutral" game these days anyway and they aren't hurting. They are getting stronger.
