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1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Isnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
As I thought when I did it, it's a gamble but right now I'm benching a QB1 every week by default whereas if Cooper works out I now to get to start two excellent wideouts.It is hard to judge those devy picks because they are such a gamble. I think the Stafford side killed it.Hmm, I'll take the ODB+Stafford side in a superflex. The way I see it:Superflex, Tiered PPR (.5/1/1.5) starts 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex 4 Flex RB/WR/TE
Some info that may help; going into this deal I had Ryan/Stafford/Big Ben/Alex Smith at QB, I made the playoffs this year and lost in the first round.
Gave:
Odell Beckham Jr
Matt Stafford
Heath Miller
Devy Pick 1.07 (Devy's have to be draft eligible the following year, so this year we can draft 2016 eligibles)
Received
Alshon Jeffery
Amari Cooper
Rookie Pick 1.05
Devy Pick 1.05
Devy Pick 1.11
Stafford (at worst) = Alshon ... (Stafford is worth more in 6pt pass TDs)
ODB >>> Amari Cooper & rest
I just don't think all three combined are good enough to warrant the 1.01 after the 2014 season. Not sure what to think of Jordon. Was considered elite by many, but really disappointed in 2014. Murray has looked ok at the end of the season (and why wasn't he given more playing time early?), but he does play for the Raiders and they are getting a new coaching staff. Morris was an 1,800 yard rusher, but I am not sure how he fits in the offense. All three players play for teams that are a mess. I guess one could say its preference. Would one rather take a chance on the three or take a chance on the 1.01. I would rather have the 1.01.Isnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Doesnt Murray have that? You could end up trading for 1.01 and end up with a player who might not be as good as Murray.
Morris and Cameron to boot?
1.01 for me. I don't think all 3 of those guys have mid to late first value at this point. I could see Morris having late first, Murray late first/early second and Cameron early to mid second which to me isn't nearly enough. Things change quickly but I think this trade would be closer to even if we turned back the clock to before this season for Cameron and Morris.I agree...the 1.01 is very valuable, but Murray Morris and Cameron could be a huge boost to any team. I guess it depends on the team. When I looked at this I saw is as 3 mid to late 1sts for the 1.01...tough callIsnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Doesnt Murray have that? You could end up trading for 1.01 and end up with a player who might not be as good as Murray.
Morris and Cameron to boot?
Lol. Honestly, that's the first time I've ever been told that.You are way over valuing draft picks (I think)1.01 for me. I don't think all 3 of those guys have mid to late first value at this point. I could see Morris having late first, Murray late first/early second and Cameron early to mid second which to me isn't nearly enough. Things change quickly but I think this trade would be closer to even if we turned back the clock to before this season for Cameron and Morris.I agree...the 1.01 is very valuable, but Murray Morris and Cameron could be a huge boost to any team. I guess it depends on the team. When I looked at this I saw is as 3 mid to late 1sts for the 1.01...tough callIsnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Doesnt Murray have that? You could end up trading for 1.01 and end up with a player who might not be as good as Murray.
Morris and Cameron to boot?
ETA...lets test that
Team A trades 1.11, 2.01, 2.03
Team B trades Morris, L Murray, J Cameron
In what world are you getting either of those three players for either of those three picks?You are way over valuing draft picks (I think)1.01 for me. I don't think all 3 of those guys have mid to late first value at this point. I could see Morris having late first, Murray late first/early second and Cameron early to mid second which to me isn't nearly enough. Things change quickly but I think this trade would be closer to even if we turned back the clock to before this season for Cameron and Morris.I agree...the 1.01 is very valuable, but Murray Morris and Cameron could be a huge boost to any team. I guess it depends on the team. When I looked at this I saw is as 3 mid to late 1sts for the 1.01...tough callIsnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Doesnt Murray have that? You could end up trading for 1.01 and end up with a player who might not be as good as Murray.
Morris and Cameron to boot?
ETA...lets test that
Team A trades 1.11, 2.01, 2.03
Team B trades Morris, L Murray, J Cameron
morris is inconsistent because he is so TD dependentI assume you are asking jeaton6 that question. I think fair value for those three players is more like 1.06, 1.09, 1.11In what world are you getting either of those three players for either of those three picks?You are way over valuing draft picks (I think)1.01 for me. I don't think all 3 of those guys have mid to late first value at this point. I could see Morris having late first, Murray late first/early second and Cameron early to mid second which to me isn't nearly enough. Things change quickly but I think this trade would be closer to even if we turned back the clock to before this season for Cameron and Morris.I agree...the 1.01 is very valuable, but Murray Morris and Cameron could be a huge boost to any team. I guess it depends on the team. When I looked at this I saw is as 3 mid to late 1sts for the 1.01...tough callIsnt the point of the 1.01 to get a talented player who can produce for you for years to come with high upside?team getting the 1.01.Give me team A.1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Doesnt Murray have that? You could end up trading for 1.01 and end up with a player who might not be as good as Murray.
Morris and Cameron to boot?
ETA...lets test that
Team A trades 1.11, 2.01, 2.03
Team B trades Morris, L Murray, J Cameron
Biig win for 1.4. Move up 4 spots and only have to give up 5 spots later in round.Team A sends 1.08 and 1.11
Team B sends 1.04 and 2.04
12 Team PPR some IDP.
Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Come on, you have been arguing your opinion with everyone in the thread, every time they say the 1.01. It is easy to assume that you are waiting for them to answer, then you will try to break down why that is a stupid pick. I am trying to save everyone else the time.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Jerry - any openings in leagues where you have the 1.01 by chance?Come on, you have been arguing your opinion with everyone in the thread, every time they say the 1.01. It is easy to assume that you are waiting for them to answer, then you will try to break down why that is a stupid pick. I am trying to save everyone else the time.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
You prefer the other guys and that is fine. Other people prefer the 1.01 and that is fine. Everyone has their own way of building teams. So like I said give it up.
Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Do you really care which player he is taking at 1.01 or are you just trying to hammer out the same point over and over again, False Start?Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
The point of this thread is to list some trades to help people with value, and to get a few opinions. After about 2 days it is time to discuss other trades. It is time to move on.Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Yes, I want to know who he would take with that 1.01 so I can judge value. Ignore me if me talking to him bothers you.The point of this thread is to list some trades to help people with value, and to get a few opinions. After about 2 days it is time to discuss other trades. It is time to move on.Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
I think it is too early to decide, but right now it would probably be between Gordon, Gurley or Cooper. Heck, someone like Parker may jump up after the combine. So in a nutshell, it probably could be any one of 4-5 players and (I think) many are saying they would love to have a chance at any one of them rather than taking a chance on the other three combined.Yes, I want to know who he would take with that 1.01 so I can judge value. Ignore me if me talking to him bothers you.The point of this thread is to list some trades to help people with value, and to get a few opinions. After about 2 days it is time to discuss other trades. It is time to move on.Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
No you aren't you are looking to argue, if you wanted to know who he would take at 1.01 that badly you would just send him a message.Yes, I want to know who he would take with that 1.01 so I can judge value. Ignore me if me talking to him bothers you.The point of this thread is to list some trades to help people with value, and to get a few opinions. After about 2 days it is time to discuss other trades. It is time to move on.Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Please don't ruin this thread as well.I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Who would you take at 1.01?Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
Says the person who wrote paragraph to me asking someone who they would take at 1.1 and keeps responding even after I said ignore me.msudaisy26 said:No you aren't you are looking to argue, if you wanted to know who he would take at 1.01 that badly you would just send him a message.Jerry Curl said:Yes, I want to know who he would take with that 1.01 so I can judge value. Ignore me if me talking to him bothers you.msudaisy26 said:The point of this thread is to list some trades to help people with value, and to get a few opinions. After about 2 days it is time to discuss other trades. It is time to move on.Jerry Curl said:Dude go away, I asked a question. Only one ruining this thread is people like you making comments like that.Dr. Octopus said:Please don't ruin this thread as well.Jerry Curl said:I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.msudaisy26 said:You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Jerry Curl said:Who would you take at 1.01?One More Rep said:Yikes! 1.1 easy
Nah, I have 1.01 from a trade, I am trying to gauge the pick people are putting there.jeaton6 said:Jerry - any openings in leagues where you have the 1.01 by chance?msudaisy26 said:Come on, you have been arguing your opinion with everyone in the thread, every time they say the 1.01. It is easy to assume that you are waiting for them to answer, then you will try to break down why that is a stupid pick. I am trying to save everyone else the time.Jerry Curl said:I asked who would he take at 1.01 nothing you said answers that and in a way has nothing to do with the question.msudaisy26 said:You are going to have to give it up and here is the reason why. Those guys can be found on the waiver wire every year and are doubtful to ever be true studs on your team. Guys like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper and whoever else you want to throw into the the discussion at 1.01 have the chance to be A.J. Green, OBJ, Jamal Charles etc. So would you rather start Gordon, Travis Kelce, and Justin Forsett or Morris, Murray and Cameron? So even if Gordon busts in this made up scenario, you still aren't sitting that bad. It is well worth the gamble.Jerry Curl said:Who would you take at 1.01?One More Rep said:Yikes! 1.1 easy1.0112 team ppr
team a: L Murray, A Morris, J Cameron
team b: 1.01
You prefer the other guys and that is fine. Other people prefer the 1.01 and that is fine. Everyone has their own way of building teams. So like I said give it up.
This seems fair and basic.Team A sends 1.08 and 1.09
Team B sends 1.04 and 2.04
12 Team PPR some IDP.
Team B has the 1.01 and the 2.01
Interesting. The person getting Cooper seems to value him much more than Gordon. After watching Gordon again yesterday he sure reminds me a lot of Charles. I will take the Gordon side my a considerable amount.In the aforementioned Superflex with tiered PPR (.5/1/1.5)
Sent:
Amari Cooper
Rookie 1.08
Devy 1.05
Received:
Melvin Gordon
Charles Johnson
Rookie 1.03
Rookie 2.01
Devy 1.03
interesting that Cooper is considered that much more valuable than Gordon, as they are considered pretty even most elsewhere. Is that just based on the tiered ppr?In the aforementioned Superflex with tiered PPR (.5/1/1.5)
Sent:
Amari Cooper
Rookie 1.08
Devy 1.05
Received:
Melvin Gordon
Charles Johnson
Rookie 1.03
Rookie 2.01
Devy 1.03
I agree with this Better picks and a WC in Johnson.Interesting. The person getting Cooper seems to value him much more than Gordon. After watching Gordon again yesterday he sure reminds me a lot of Charles. I will take the Gordon side my a considerable amount.In the aforementioned Superflex with tiered PPR (.5/1/1.5)
Sent:
Amari Cooper
Rookie 1.08
Devy 1.05
Received:
Melvin Gordon
Charles Johnson
Rookie 1.03
Rookie 2.01
Devy 1.03
I would take Cooks12 team PPR.
· Team A gave up Hunter, Justin TEN WR; Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.09)
· Team B gave up Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Cooks. I have just about given up on Hunter and I don't see him carrying a whole lot of value at this point unfortunately. I like Cooks quite a bit in New Orleans, especially in a PPR league. I think he can be a player that gets close to 100 catches or more per year once he figures it all out.12 team PPR. I'm not involved.
· Team A gave up Hunter, Justin TEN WR; Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.09)
· Team B gave up Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
Cooks12 team PPR. I'm not involved.
· Team A gave up Hunter, Justin TEN WR; Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.09)
· Team B gave up Cooks, Brandin NOS WR
What about the guys that drafted Lacy, A.J. Green and Calvin JohnsonThat's what many of us said and then drafted R. Mathews, or Ingram or TRichwhen you have a shot to draft a rare cornerstone player at 1.01 like this year you just don't trade it for 3 spare decent parts. it's just an awful move.
Exactly. The 1.1 is simply more valuable than those guys. Would anyone here trade a mid 2nd (at worst) startup pick for two 5's and a 7/8? That's what that trade effectively was.What about the guys that drafted Lacy, A.J. Green and Calvin JohnsonThat's what many of us said and then drafted R. Mathews, or Ingram or TRichwhen you have a shot to draft a rare cornerstone player at 1.01 like this year you just don't trade it for 3 spare decent parts. it's just an awful move.
Wow! I would give that all day long for the 1.01. Great get for whoever got the 1.01.Team A: CJ Anderson and Bishop Sankey
Team B: 1.01 rookie draft pick
1.1Gandalf said:Team A: CJ Anderson and Bishop Sankey
Team B: 1.01 rookie draft pick
Wow. 1.06 easy.10 team 2QB 3WR 2RB 2TE 2Flex .5PPR
Not involved
Team A trades: Adrian Peterson
Team B trades: 1.06
The ultimate risk/reward. I wouldn't do this, but if Peterson comes back with a chip on his shoulder to the Vikings (or even better the Cowboys) one could look back and say 1.06 was a steal (short term).10 team 2QB 3WR 2RB 2TE 2Flex .5PPR
Not involved
Team A trades: Adrian Peterson
Team B trades: 1.06
1.1Gandalf said:Team A: CJ Anderson and Bishop Sankey
Team B: 1.01 rookie draft pick
It's risky, but there's no guarantee the player at 1.6 gives you anywhere near the production Peterson should the next couple years.The ultimate risk/reward. I wouldn't do this, but if Peterson comes back with a chip on his shoulder to the Vikings (or even better the Cowboys) one could look back and say 1.06 was a steal (short term).10 team 2QB 3WR 2RB 2TE 2Flex .5PPR
Not involved
Team A trades: Adrian Peterson
Team B trades: 1.06