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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)

I assume you meant to say hope the guy who gave the 1.02 gets at least one good player?

Or maybe you were implying that you don't feel strongly about this draft at all?

I received the 1.02 and really made the deal with the other guy because he was looking to draft a wr at 1.02. I think the wr talent is pretty deep in this draft and it's very possible he gets a wr at 1.08 who is as good or possibly better than at 1.02. Possibly green beckham vs cooper.

I also think the 2.01 will net a decent player. Possibly best qb or TE in the draft based on the way our league drafts.

I certainly made the deal hoping to get the best player but that's unfortunately not a guarantee.
You don't need to sugar coat it. It was terrible value for him

 
I'm usually just a lurker here, but this is too funny. My new favorite term, unfortunately I can not take credit for it as I have stolen it from another, is 'trape'...trade rape. I love reading someone's insistence that there is fair value when it is actually complete and utter trape!

 
I assume you meant to say hope the guy who gave the 1.02 gets at least one good player?

Or maybe you were implying that you don't feel strongly about this draft at all?

I received the 1.02 and really made the deal with the other guy because he was looking to draft a wr at 1.02. I think the wr talent is pretty deep in this draft and it's very possible he gets a wr at 1.08 who is as good or possibly better than at 1.02. Possibly green beckham vs cooper.

I also think the 2.01 will net a decent player. Possibly best qb or TE in the draft based on the way our league drafts.

I certainly made the deal hoping to get the best player but that's unfortunately not a guarantee.
You don't need to sugar coat it. It was terrible value for him
Yep even if he wanted more picks he should have insisted on the 1.4 at a minimum. Not sure 1.4/2.1/Robinson even worth 1.2 but probably close.
 
Yep even if he wanted more picks he should have insisted on the 1.4 at a minimum. Not sure 1.4/2.1/Robinson even worth 1.2 but probably close.
I would rather have open roster spots than the players he got. They have negative value to me unless it's a 16 team league where you start like 25 guys.

 
I assume you meant to say hope the guy who gave the 1.02 gets at least one good player?

Or maybe you were implying that you don't feel strongly about this draft at all?

I received the 1.02 and really made the deal with the other guy because he was looking to draft a wr at 1.02. I think the wr talent is pretty deep in this draft and it's very possible he gets a wr at 1.08 who is as good or possibly better than at 1.02. Possibly green beckham vs cooper.

I also think the 2.01 will net a decent player. Possibly best qb or TE in the draft based on the way our league drafts.

I certainly made the deal hoping to get the best player but that's unfortunately not a guarantee.
You don't need to sugar coat it. It was terrible value for him
Ha. Not sugar coating. I really don't see the landslide victory. Obviously I like my side for me but tried to give him a decent amount back. I know the 1.02 is the prize in theory. But looking back on rookie history this could go very badly for me as well.

 
Ha. Not sugar coating. I really don't see the landslide victory. Obviously I like my side for me but tried to give him a decent amount back. I know the 1.02 is the prize in theory. But looking back on rookie history this could go very badly for me as well.
You mean like Julio, Green, Bell, Lacy, and others?

The "players" you gave are completely irrelevant. You gave picks 8 and 13 for pick 2. For real, that is "trape"

 
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BUt if you are second guessing yourself, feel free to find some other team and get two mid 1sts this year for pick 2. Shouldn't be that hard.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?

I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?

I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
So everyone should value picks the way you do is what you are saying? i wouldnt make that trade but if someone wanted riddick bad enough and the owner knew that i would try for a big deal too. thats why there are different owners and they are allowed to run their team the way they want. to be honest you bouncing from a league for complaining about trades seems like the betterment for the league anyways. i would have bounced from this league if the commish felt the need to reverse a trade two owners agreed to because he or another owners didnt like it or they felt different about value. what if a player like trent richardson goes at 1.3? thats why people shouldnt listen to others, nothing is certain.

i wonder if teams in the nfl wanted to bounce when the rams torched the redskins in the rg3 deal.

 
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So, you have NO issue, based on your comments, if someone traded Dez Bryant for a 2016 4th round rookie pick?

I mean, who knows what could happen to Dez!!!.. will he get suspended!!?? Maybe the Dez owner wants to get rid of him for ANYTHING before he loses him for nothing....

You have no issue with this, and the league can move along merrily?

Cmon man... I dont care if value is slightly off... or if folks make a slight/moderate overpay....

Then there's just stupidity and/or collusion. 2 guys who are nearly unrosterable for the 1.03 is purely idiotic. Rudolph is ok.

 
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So, you have NO issue, based on your comments, if someone traded Dez Bryant for a 2016 4th round rookie pick?

I mean, who knows what could happen to Dez!!!.. will he get suspended!!?? Maybe the Dez owner wants to get rid of him for ANYTHING before he loses him for nothing....

You have no issue with this, and the league can move along merrily?

Cmon man... I dont care if value is slightly off... or if folks make a slight/moderate overpay....

Then there's just stupidity and/or collusion. 2 guys who are nearly unrosterable for the 1.03 is purely idiotic. Rudolph is ok.
dez for a 4th would never happen and its unreasonable to assume as much.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?

I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
So everyone should value picks the way you do is what you are saying? i wouldnt make that trade but if someone wanted riddick bad enough and the owner knew that i would try for a big deal too. thats why there are different owners and they are allowed to run their team the way they want. to be honest you bouncing from a league for complaining about trades seems like the betterment for the league anyways. i would have bounced from this league if the commish felt the need to reverse a trade two owners agreed to because he or another owners didnt like it or they felt different about value. what if a player like trent richardson goes at 1.3? thats why people shouldnt listen to others, nothing is certain.

i wonder if teams in the nfl wanted to bounce when the rams torched the redskins in the rg3 deal.
I agree here.

I won Kyle Rudolph in a TE premium league and have tons of interest in him. It would take a deal like this to trade him. You make that the 1.12 and the deal is dead. That is why he still on my team. Owners are hoping to get him for cheap. I have high hopes for him still. So while I would not trade the 1.3 as not high on Reddick(but some might see him as the new Bush) or Quick(he played very well till getting hurt last year), others will see it different and put value on both guys. I might not like the deal but it is not league wrecking IMO.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?

I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
So everyone should value picks the way you do is what you are saying? i wouldnt make that trade but if someone wanted riddick bad enough and the owner knew that i would try for a big deal too. thats why there are different owners and they are allowed to run their team the way they want. to be honest you bouncing from a league for complaining about trades seems like the betterment for the league anyways. i would have bounced from this league if the commish felt the need to reverse a trade two owners agreed to because he or another owners didnt like it or they felt different about value. what if a player like trent richardson goes at 1.3? thats why people shouldnt listen to others, nothing is certain.

i wonder if teams in the nfl wanted to bounce when the rams torched the redskins in the rg3 deal.
I agree here.

I won Kyle Rudolph in a TE premium league and have tons of interest in him. It would take a deal like this to trade him. You make that the 1.12 and the deal is dead. That is why he still on my team. Owners are hoping to get him for cheap. I have high hopes for him still. So while I would not trade the 1.3 as not high on Reddick(but some might see him as the new Bush) or Quick(he played very well till getting hurt last year), others will see it different and put value on both guys. I might not like the deal but it is not league wrecking IMO.
I wouldn't give up the 1.3 for that.

 
So, you have NO issue, based on your comments, if someone traded Dez Bryant for a 2016 4th round rookie pick?

I mean, who knows what could happen to Dez!!!.. will he get suspended!!?? Maybe the Dez owner wants to get rid of him for ANYTHING before he loses him for nothing....

You have no issue with this, and the league can move along merrily?

Cmon man... I dont care if value is slightly off... or if folks make a slight/moderate overpay....

Then there's just stupidity and/or collusion. 2 guys who are nearly unrosterable for the 1.03 is purely idiotic. Rudolph is ok.
That trade was really bad, but none of those players are close to unrosterable - even if only 22-24 man rosters.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?

I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
Not bounce-worthy. If you double back to last year's in-season thread, you will find posters saying it would take a mid-first to move Quick.Questionable trades are part of Dynasty. I'd personally never leave a league because of one.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
Not bounce-worthy. If you double back to last year's in-season thread, you will find posters saying it would take a mid-first to move Quick.Questionable trades are part of Dynasty. I'd personally never leave a league because of one.
I agree. I hate seeing people give up value to anyone but me but value changes quickly. Last year everyone lauded my trading OBJ and John Brown for Percy before season began. I sure pulled one over on that guy...right...

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
Not bounce-worthy. If you double back to last year's in-season thread, you will find posters saying it would take a mid-first to move Quick.Questionable trades are part of Dynasty. I'd personally never leave a league because of one.
I agree. I hate seeing people give up value to anyone but me but value changes quickly. Last year everyone lauded my trading OBJ and John Brown for Percy before season began. I sure pulled one over on that guy...right...
Values definitely change very fast. I think it was like week 3 when a guy in my league was offered OBJ and something for his Cordarrell Patterson, which he firmly rejected. Three weeks later he couldn't get OBJ for CP and a 1.

I don't complain when I see a bad deal go down, I just wish some guys would try a little harder to negotiate. Even if you really think Riddick is gonna be a stud with Bush out of Detriot, you can get him without giving up the 3rd overall pick. Gotta take the blinders off and see the whole picture sometimes. I'll guarantee he wants that 1.03 more than the other guy wants Riddick, Quick and Rudolph.

 
This gem just went down in one of my 12 Team PPR leagues:

Team A gets: Theo Riddick, Brian Quick, Kyle Rudolph

Team B gets: 1.03 pick
Trades like that will ruin a league quicker than anything. All the good owners will move on.
Yup. Id Bounce. What can possibly keep you in a league that allows that?I don't even mean veto (which it shouldve been, for the sake of football)... But what kind of owner does that to his own team?
Not bounce-worthy. If you double back to last year's in-season thread, you will find posters saying it would take a mid-first to move Quick.Questionable trades are part of Dynasty. I'd personally never leave a league because of one.
I agree. I hate seeing people give up value to anyone but me but value changes quickly. Last year everyone lauded my trading OBJ and John Brown for Percy before season began. I sure pulled one over on that guy...right...
Values definitely change very fast. I think it was like week 3 when a guy in my league was offered OBJ and something for his Cordarrell Patterson, which he firmly rejected. Three weeks later he couldn't get OBJ for CP and a 1.

I don't complain when I see a bad deal go down, I just wish some guys would try a little harder to negotiate. Even if you really think Riddick is gonna be a stud with Bush out of Detriot, you can get him without giving up the 3rd overall pick. Gotta take the blinders off and see the whole picture sometimes. I'll guarantee he wants that 1.03 more than the other guy wants Riddick, Quick and Rudolph.
The major issue I have with this trade, is the big picture.

If this owner overpays like this (and imo, it is a MAJORRRR overpay) he likely does the same thing over and over, and doesnt understand dynasty.

Again, I could be wrong... I can only go by what Im seeing here, and what Im projecting... but I found more foten than not, a terrible trade is usually made by a terrible owner.

 
So, you have NO issue, based on your comments, if someone traded Dez Bryant for a 2016 4th round rookie pick?

I mean, who knows what could happen to Dez!!!.. will he get suspended!!?? Maybe the Dez owner wants to get rid of him for ANYTHING before he loses him for nothing....

You have no issue with this, and the league can move along merrily?

Cmon man... I dont care if value is slightly off... or if folks make a slight/moderate overpay....

Then there's just stupidity and/or collusion. 2 guys who are nearly unrosterable for the 1.03 is purely idiotic. Rudolph is ok.
dez for a 4th would never happen and its unreasonable to assume as much.
I would have thought the same thing about the trade you are defending

 
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2016 1st (top 6), 2016 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02

 
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Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1st (top 6), 2015 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Take the players out and I like Team B's haul. Put the players back in and I love Team B's haul.
You liked Team B's haul? Team A is the team that received the Top 6 2015 1st (what does that mean exactly, anyway, don't they already know the pick number?)

 
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1st (top 6), 2015 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Take the players out and I like Team B's haul. Put the players back in and I love Team B's haul.
You liked Team B's haul? Team A is the team that received the Top 6 2015 1st (what does that mean exactly, anyway, don't they already know the pick number?)
Sorry meant 2015 2.04, 2016 1 (top 6), 2015 2nd (top 6)

 
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1st (top 6), 2015 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Take the players out and I like Team B's haul. Put the players back in and I love Team B's haul.
You liked Team B's haul? Team A is the team that received the Top 6 2015 1st (what does that mean exactly, anyway, don't they already know the pick number?)
Sorry meant 2015 2.04, 2016 1 (top 6), 2015 2nd (top 6)
I'd much rather have the early 2016 1st side.

 
ex-ghost said:
Non ppr

Team A receives:

J Gordon

A Peterson

D Thomas

2015 2.08

Team B receives:

Moncrief

D Adams

D Jackson

J Huff

M Bennett

M Wilson

2015 3.6

2016 2nd, 3rd

2017 1st

2018 1st
DT/Gordon/AP

 
smbkrypt24 said:
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2016 1st (top 6), 2016 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Pretty even for me.

Next years 1st is a good haul too but I like my chances with the 3 picks

 
PPR with devys

Traded

Doug Martin

M. Wheaton

Rookie pick 2.07 (with devys gone - more like 3rd Rd pick)

Received

A. Ellington

M. Sanu

James Jones

T. Gearhart

 
Just went final. 12 team ppr. Start 1 qb, 1-3 rb, 1-3wr, 1 Te. 20 man roster

Team a received: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1(top 6), 2015 2(top 6)

Team b received: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02

 
smbkrypt24 said:
Ernol said:
jmo87usc said:
smbkrypt24 said:
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1st (top 6), 2015 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Take the players out and I like Team B's haul. Put the players back in and I love Team B's haul.
You liked Team B's haul? Team A is the team that received the Top 6 2015 1st (what does that mean exactly, anyway, don't they already know the pick number?)
Sorry meant 2015 2.04, 2016 1 (top 6), 2015 2nd (top 6)
That's funny cause when I first read it I just assumed it was a next year 1st. Calling it top 6 doesn't give me confidence that it will be. I've seen too many sure picks go the opposite way. What if it's 8 or 9 overall? Do we know if the 8th best player next year is better than the 11th best player this year?

Just seems like he put too much stock in a future that has no real value yet.

 
smbkrypt24 said:
Ernol said:
jmo87usc said:
smbkrypt24 said:
Team a recieved: Stevie Johnson, 2.04, 2015 1st (top 6), 2015 2nd (top first)

Team b receivers: l donnell, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02
Take the players out and I like Team B's haul. Put the players back in and I love Team B's haul.
You liked Team B's haul? Team A is the team that received the Top 6 2015 1st (what does that mean exactly, anyway, don't they already know the pick number?)
Sorry meant 2015 2.04, 2016 1 (top 6), 2015 2nd (top 6)
That's funny cause when I first read it I just assumed it was a next year 1st. Calling it top 6 doesn't give me confidence that it will be. I've seen too many sure picks go the opposite way. What if it's 8 or 9 overall? Do we know if the 8th best player next year is better than the 11th best player this year?

Just seems like he put too much stock in a future that has no real value yet.
Yeah, I am team A and it was for the team in my signature. I will post team B so you can have a better idea of where he is at this point. I agree that he could draft or pick someone on the waiver that could put him in the playoffs. I was just saying in all likelihood it is a top 6 next year.

Team B.

Qb: Newton

RB: Bell, Ball, Hyde, Jackson, Mason, Spiller, Stewart

WR: T. Austin, E. Decker, James Jones, M. Lee. K. Thompkins

TE: Cook, Donnell

Carpenter

Bengals

He is strong at RB but has a glaring hole at WR and TE and is average at QB, IMO.

 
12 team PPR league

Gave: ADP, Mckinnon, V. Davis

Got: Hyde, 1.09 and Boldin

Won league last year and felt it was time to try and get younger.

 

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