cstu
Footballguy
Matthews.
With one year left, Floyd is a bit of a roster clogger - I look at it like you got the 3.08 for him.
1.10 and a 2nd is a good price for Matthews.
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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)
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With one year left, Floyd is a bit of a roster clogger - I look at it like you got the 3.08 for him.
1.10 and a 2nd is a good price for Matthews.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I like the chances of Djax outperforming Floyd by a considerable margin over the next few years, so I disagree with the bold. Otherwise agreed.
I'm a Bengals homer, so take it FWIW, but I think you're wrong on this. Green had a foot injury the entire season. It was never clear what specifically it was, but something along the lines of a lisfranc. You have to take all of his 2014 production with a huge grain of salt. He had a couple games that he started but then couldn't go and had zero points. He had some other games where he was out there and producing but clearly not anywhere near 100%. He had a 3 or 4 week stretch where he said he was starting to feel healthy and put up huge numbers before re-aggravating the injury. I wouldn't chalk his poor 2014 up to the new OC, Jeremy Hill, Andy Dalton or anything else other than the injury.
If there is ever a "buy low" window on a guy as talented as Green, it looks like it's cracked open a little bit right now. I personally think he should still be valued right alongside the top guys like Dez, Julio, Le'Veon, etc. Maybe slightly below them if you're ranking them, but in the same value tier.
This is where sometimes the trade thread here fails a little bit because every situation is 100% unique and there's an art to valuing the future picks, assessing the roster, assessing the other rosters in the league, assessing the trading and WW acumen of the opposing owner (or yourself if it's your pick), etc.
To answer this specific question, maybe it's a copout, but I'd say that it depends. There are times where I'd use the shorthand "late 2016 1st" for a team that I'd have as 80% likely to make the playoffs and something like 4th best roster. There are times where I'd use the same exact shorthand of "late 2016 1st" to describe a team that has the best roster and a 99% chance of making the playoffs. Even though the shorthand is the same, the value of the two picks isn't in my mind and I'd treat them differently in terms of trade valuation. Obviously there's more upside with the team that has a 20% chance of missing the playoffs.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
pizzatyme
Footballguy
I didn't like the first trade for him, but ultimately giving the 1.2 for Hopkins is a steal IMO.
It's definitely a "time will tell" type of thing. Currently I have Amari ranked 1 spot ahead of Hopkins and Gordon as my #4 RB on my dynasty rankings, but that is without landing spot and just on talent. If I knew I was getting Amari at 2, I'd say that gave me more reason to keep the pick, but it's certainly not a bad move. Fair for sure.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
One More Rep
Footballguy
Denver724
Footballguy
Interesting trade based on what happened last year. Standard PPR. Last year I traded Hunter to the same team (different owner) for two 1sts. Those 1sts turned into D. Adams and A. Rob. And now I get Hunter back for Helu.
· Team A gave up Hunter, Justin TEN WR
· Team B gave up Helu, Roy OAK RB
· Team A gave up Hunter, Justin TEN WR
· Team B gave up Helu, Roy OAK RB
I will gladly take Hunter. At this point, his stock can only rise. Should the Titans manage to land Rivers, I think he could have a very big year. That would be a perfect pairing of deep ball quarterback and deep ball receiver.
If you divide 1st round picks into early, mid and late, then 1.01 to 1.04 is early, 1.05 to 1.08 is mid and 1.09 to 1.12 would be considered a late 1st round pick.
blardorg
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Part of it is Mason's age - he's younger than Gordon and Ajayi, a month younger than Duke, two months older than Yeldon.
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cstu
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
No way, 1.2 > Hopkins by "quite a bit". I'd much rather have any one of Gurley, Gordon, Cooper over Hopkins. Perhaps even White.
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JohnnyU
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Pwingles
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deancheated
Footballguy
Allen pretty easily. Don't trust Foster this late in his career and who knows what happens with Cruz (hope he comes back the same but lots of doubt there)
I like your use of " " there. Don't disagree with the group think around here, or you will be scorned with quotes for having an opinion. Let's trade yesterday's rookies for tomorrow's. Just field a team of 20-21 year olds who haven't played a down in the NFL and induct them in the hall of fame. Youngest, prettiest roster wins. Cordarelle Patterson, Tavon Austin, Trent Richardson, David Wilson etc... never happened.
Yeah I like the move for Hopkins although I would have thought the 1.02 would be more attractive than Tate/Bell/1.09/2nd but nice job getting both deals done
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Just had another trade: Superflex my Rbs and WRs were:
Demarco Murray
Marshawn, Turbin, Michael
Crowell and West
Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis
Joseph Randle
Trent Richardson
Julio
AJ Green
John Brown
Marques Wilson
Jeff Janis
Mike Wallace
Gave Up Charles and Wallace and 3.05 (29th pick)
Got: Randall Cobb and Arian Foster
Looking forward to rolling out Julio, AJ and Cobb every Sunday. I don't think dropping from Charles to Arian is such a big deal because I have Marshawn, Demarco and Crowell to pick from as well. My QBs are Cam and Romo so I'm flexing QB barring injury.
Demarco Murray
Marshawn, Turbin, Michael
Crowell and West
Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis
Joseph Randle
Trent Richardson
Julio
AJ Green
John Brown
Marques Wilson
Jeff Janis
Mike Wallace
Gave Up Charles and Wallace and 3.05 (29th pick)
Got: Randall Cobb and Arian Foster
Looking forward to rolling out Julio, AJ and Cobb every Sunday. I don't think dropping from Charles to Arian is such a big deal because I have Marshawn, Demarco and Crowell to pick from as well. My QBs are Cam and Romo so I'm flexing QB barring injury.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't think Hopkins will be a stud WR #1 as long as those current QBs in Houston are throwing him the ball. I do think Gurley will be a stud RB #1 and Amari Cooper will at least be as good as Hopkins was last year and probably better. I don't like the QB situation in Houston and now that Johnson is gone, Hopkins will draw constant double teaming. Also, if Gordon ends up in Dallas I would much rather have him over Hopkins.
Gordon in Dallas would be a favorable situation and might change my mind, put him ahead of Hopkins. Cooper could land with the Jets and be no better off than Hopkins at QB situation. Outside of Gurley there were too many ifs and variables for ME not to take Hopkins.
blardorg
Footballguy
Seriously. Hopkins was probably the second WR off the board his year in most leagues, with Tavon Austin going ahead of him and Cordarelle Patterson going right after. It's crazy to me seeing how people are valuing rookie picks.
If I had some hoarded up anywhere, I'd make a killing selling them. "Hmmm, you want the 1.05 for Hopkins? Well, that's tough, but I guess I can do it. And 1.03 for Demaryius Thomas? I don't know, Peyton might only play one more year.... but you've talked me into it. 1.01 for Lacy? Don't you know Gurley is a generational talent? Throw in Lamar Miller with Lacy and maybe we can make a deal."
I really did
That's crazy.
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Spin
Footballguy
Yah, I went back and forth a few times. Wanted to wait til after the draft. But I feel much more confident in my TE squad now with Vernon / Reed / Graham instead of Vernon / Reed / Thomas.
FUBAR
Footballguy
in any other 10 team format, I'd take Graham fairly easily. Superflex makes this difficult. If MM and Winston would go 1-3, I'd prefer the 4. but that's hard to guess.
heckmanm
Footballguy
16-team contract league - Start QB, 1-2 RB, 2-4WR, 0-2 TE
Gave:
VJax (final year of contract)
Joseph Randle
Got:
Ingram (final year of contract)
Josh Huff
I still have OBJ, Hopkins, and Edelman to run out there every week at WR, but my RBs dropped off fast after Murray.
Gave:
VJax (final year of contract)
Joseph Randle
Got:
Ingram (final year of contract)
Josh Huff
I still have OBJ, Hopkins, and Edelman to run out there every week at WR, but my RBs dropped off fast after Murray.
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deancheated
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Team A gets: Spiller
Team B gets: 1.10
Team A gets: Spiller
Team B gets: 1.10
One More Rep
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1.10. I think this is borderline top end of what I might pay for Spiller in PPR so without looking the teams I would take the pick and draft a RB at 1.10 over having Spiller
1.02. Great upgrade
Pwingles
Footballguy
Thanks. A little more perspective on the deal, he has the 1.05 also, and doesnt need RBs badly, so now he has a charles handcuff and the possibility of cruz making it back. But i hopefully get gurley who i would take almost no matter where he lands. This is under the assumption that the 1.01 takes cooper as he has stated several times. If he takes gurley ill likely panic and pass out
