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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (3 Viewers)
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Pwingles
Footballguy
That is the most fantastic name for a squad everAs for the trade, i like the 1.01 side but it might be close depending on roster make up.
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3 years of Bell is probably preferable to 5 years of Jeffrey. I think the addition of Sanders and Anderson sways me in that direction. But I would have to check my math given the unique league set-up. Seems reasonable for both sides.
And I just realized it isn't PPR. In standard scoring, I guess I will take 3 years of Bell over the entire other side. This is despite the reduced RB baseline due to only needing to start 1.
Maclin please despite not being a fan usually. Just think I would never be comfortable starting T. Williams on a week-to-week basis,
I can see the rationale here. I don't know where I would shake out if those picks weren't involved, but the inclusion of 1.10 makes that side an easy choice.
blardorg
Footballguy
Thirded. I'd probably just barely prefer Hyde, Amari Cooper at 1.01, and whoever at 2.05 to only Bell, but there'll be a quality rookie at 1.10 that swings it the other way.
CooksJrodicus said:
RodgersScoonie Pencil said:
2.07 assuming I am not starting Bortles after trading Brady
BellPokesfan said:
Sammywildabeast49 said:
Close one depending on how people value Hyde.
Probably really depend on my team but for me the Bell side because the 1.10/3.10>=Hyde and 1.01+2.05 < Bell in almost any format
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buck naked
Footballguy
I completed this one today, but won't say what side is mine:
FFPC TE-premium PPR dynasty league:
Jimmy Graham
Charles Johnson
2016 5th round pick
for
Sammy Watkins
2016 1st
2016 2nd
FFPC TE-premium PPR dynasty league:
Jimmy Graham
Charles Johnson
2016 5th round pick
for
Sammy Watkins
2016 1st
2016 2nd
cstu
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Indeed. If those picks are early, that'll be really awful. Even if they're late, I take The Sammy side.
donnie baseball
Footballguy
These two beauties happened today in one of my leagues. Causing quite the uproar. Truly made me question my lifelong believe of no vetos...
Team A received: Jeremy Langford and a 2016 3rd
for
Matt Forte
Team A then received: Bortles, Riddick, Abbrederis, and a 2016 3rd
for
Marshawn Lynch and Nick Foles
Team A received: Jeremy Langford and a 2016 3rd
for
Matt Forte
Team A then received: Bortles, Riddick, Abbrederis, and a 2016 3rd
for
Marshawn Lynch and Nick Foles
pizzatyme
Footballguy
ex-ghost
Footballguy
ex-ghost
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Interesting to see these opinions and appreciate the feedback.
I'm not shedding tears or anything, but I think where maybe I see it a bit differently is that I don't have much of a gap between Gurley and Gordon as both are in my top tier of 3 rookies. Love both guys and wouldn't give up much anything of value to "upgrade" from Gordon to Gurley. Without the gap there, I see a pretty large gap between Parker and Dorsett and I don't generally value QBs very highly in 1 QB leagues.
I also have a fairly deep roster so 2 studs (Gordon, Parker) is better than 1 stud (Gurley) and a couple solid prospects who will likely spend the next few years on my bench. If Bridgewater becomes a legit QB1 soon, that obviously changes the equation.
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I'm a little down on Watkins and still think this is a no brainer. The Watkins side not only gets the best player in the deal but also the best complementary piece by a pretty good margin (the 1st rounder).
Here are a couple interesting deals I've seen in leagues since the draft:
14 team PPR with 2 RB, 3 WR, and 3 flex
1.01 (which will be Gurley (I asked out of curiosity))
for
Jordan Matthews and 2016 1st (mid to late)
12 team PPR with 2 RB, 3 WR and 1 flex
Aaron Rodgers and 2.02
for
Ben Rothlisberger, Kendall Wright and 1.02 (probably Devante Parker or the top 2016 draft eligible devy)
12 team PPR with super flex
Alshon Jeffery and Charles Johnson
for
Adrian Peterson, 1.05 (Kevin White) and future 1st
14 team PPR with 2 RB, 3 WR, and 3 flex
1.01 (which will be Gurley (I asked out of curiosity))
for
Jordan Matthews and 2016 1st (mid to late)
12 team PPR with 2 RB, 3 WR and 1 flex
Aaron Rodgers and 2.02
for
Ben Rothlisberger, Kendall Wright and 1.02 (probably Devante Parker or the top 2016 draft eligible devy)
12 team PPR with super flex
Alshon Jeffery and Charles Johnson
for
Adrian Peterson, 1.05 (Kevin White) and future 1st
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Gurley, I am not that high on Matthews
Even with devys I don't think I would give 1.02 straight up for Rodgers in a start 1 qb league, unless scoring is heavily in favor of qbs
Peterson/picks side. Fair deal I just like this side better.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Is team A new to dynasty? If so they probably should be reversed and some one should talk to him. Those trades aren't in the universe of true value.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I think you are right, he has to be new to dynasty and he is putting NFL pick values for fantasy. A 3rd rounder in the NFL has a ton of value, in fantasy not so much.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
And his trade partner is probably filling his head with the thought that 30 year old RBs have no value in dynasty....
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
12 team superflex idp
can start 1-2 qb, 1-3 rb, 1-3 wr, 1-2 te, and similar idp
3.3 + 3.12
for
Zach Ertz
The pick value is a little higher because of IDP and rookies can be kept on a practice squad, freeing up a roster spot.
can start 1-2 qb, 1-3 rb, 1-3 wr, 1-2 te, and similar idp
3.3 + 3.12
for
Zach Ertz
The pick value is a little higher because of IDP and rookies can be kept on a practice squad, freeing up a roster spot.
Superflex IDP I can buy taking that for Ertz...was the pick on the clock?
I like Ertz fine but just how many breakout studs can PHI really support in the running and passing game?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Wow, what a bloodbath last night. Awesome time. 8 of the guys in the draft on site in an owners garage. A total of 13 trades went down during the draft. Many involving my team. Still trying to sort through what happened.
FWIW - my team is The Prograham.
SuperFlex PPR.
Juggernauts* / Screwbirds Trade
FWIW - my team is The Prograham.
SuperFlex PPR.
Juggernauts* / Screwbirds Trade
- Juggernauts* gave up Rice, Ray FA* RB
- Screwbirds gave up Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick from Screwbirds
- Soul Patrol* gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
- The ProGraham gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.08; Year 2016 Round 3 Draft Pick from MEGABUSH
- Screwbirds gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.01
- Makdaddy's Lingerie Squad gave up Sims, Charles TBB RB
- The ProGraham gave up Richardson, Trent OAK RB;Funchess, Devin CAR WR; Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Camel Jockies
- Screwbirds gave up Abdullah, Ameer DET RB
- The ProGraham gave up Dorsett, Phillip IND WR; Year 2016 Round 4 Draft Pick from The ProGraham
- Juggernauts* gave up Funchess, Devin CAR WR; Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Juggernauts*
- The ProGraham gave up Bortles, Blake JAC QB;Jones, Julio ATL WR; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Soul Patrol*;Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from MEGABUSH
- Camel Jockies gave up Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB;Floyd, Michael ARI WR; Year 2017 Round 1 Draft Pick from Camel Jockies
- Juggernauts* gave up Matthews, Jordan PHI WR; Year 2015 Draft Pick 6.07
- RIVERLAND REBELS gave up Vick, Michael FA QB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 2.03;Year 2015 Draft Pick 4.01; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from RIVERLAND REBELS
- The ProGraham gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.09;Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.02
- MEGABUSH gave up Bortles, Blake JAC QB; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from MEGABUSH
- The ProGraham gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB
- Soul Patrol* gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.09;Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.02; Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Soul Patrol*
- Soul Patrol* gave up Hyde, Carlos SFO RB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.08
- RIVERLAND REBELS gave up Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR; Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.02
- The ProGraham gave up Romo, Tony DAL QB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.07
- Camel Jockies gave up Newton, Cam CAR QB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 2.06; Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Camel Jockies
- The ProGraham gave up Davis, Knile KCC RB; Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.10; Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Juggernauts*
- Juggernauts* gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 1.07
- Makdaddy's Lingerie Squad gave up Mason, Tre STL RB
- RIVERLAND REBELS gave up Year 2015 Draft Pick 2.10
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pghrob
Footballguy
Trade just happened last night during pick 1.11.
12team ppr. All TD=6
q,r,r,w,w,te,f,k,d/st
Team at 1.11 traded the pick to team at 2.1 and netted his next years 2nd rounder. The guy that moved up selected Mariotta. Still on the board were Ameer Abdullah, Perriman, and DBG. The guy that moved up is big Titans homer. Well played by the guy who traded back.
12team ppr. All TD=6
q,r,r,w,w,te,f,k,d/st
Team at 1.11 traded the pick to team at 2.1 and netted his next years 2nd rounder. The guy that moved up selected Mariotta. Still on the board were Ameer Abdullah, Perriman, and DBG. The guy that moved up is big Titans homer. Well played by the guy who traded back.
floods
Footballguy
12-team, PPR Dynasty, 30 man rosters 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/K/D/Flex
Gave:
• Mike Evans
• Jordan Matthews
Received:
• Eddie Lacy
• DeAndre Hopkins
Was scant at RB and had a deep roster of young WRs (still do).
QB - Cam
RB - Lacy/Miller (Ivory, Mason, CMike, Duke Johnson)
WR - Beckham/Hopkins/Golden/Allen (Floyd, DGB, Perriman, Dorsett, Hunter, Conley, Coates)
TE - Mix of Hill, Eifert, Ebron
Gave:
• Mike Evans
• Jordan Matthews
Received:
• Eddie Lacy
• DeAndre Hopkins
Was scant at RB and had a deep roster of young WRs (still do).
QB - Cam
RB - Lacy/Miller (Ivory, Mason, CMike, Duke Johnson)
WR - Beckham/Hopkins/Golden/Allen (Floyd, DGB, Perriman, Dorsett, Hunter, Conley, Coates)
TE - Mix of Hill, Eifert, Ebron
Pwingles
Footballguy
I like evans the most in this deal individually, but in context, i like your side
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Hoot McGoot
Footballguy
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not sure I would say a lot, but I hope I upgraded at TE. Graham could just as easily outscore Gronk and don't forget for one second that I've forgotten about Gronk's injury history. I'm glad he stayed healthy last year and that helped me make my decision.
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Yeah not by alot for me.
I like the move if you are strong everywhere but I can see both sides of this deal and think it is very close
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
That's where we disagree -- Gronk was better with Jimmy in pass happy NO. Now it won't be remotely close IMO -- Graham is just a run of the mill TE1 moving forward.
I'm generally a huge fan of the "parts for stud" types of trades.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
I am not sure I am in the Jimmy is in a regular TE1 camp. I think in TE premium it may hurt him because his volume may go down but I wouldn't be shocked if he is a TD machine in SEA. Anyway I do see why people are down on Jimmy but given the TE landscape I am not downgrading him to regular TE1 territory along with Olsen/Kelce/Bennett and whoever else is in there.
I am open to being completely off on that though....I have no Jimmy shares anyway but he is getting affordable
blardorg
Footballguy
I'm not so pessimistic about Graham yet, though I've soured on Floyd. I probably would've preferred a high tier rookie or early 1st round pick instead of Floyd, so I think as it is I'd probably not go through with it. I'm not sure Gronk's value can realistically go any higher than it is now, though, so if you think Floyd can put it together and be a WR2, I understand taking it.
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cstu
Footballguy
With Duke stuck in a mess in Cleveland, Floyd who may or may not break out, and Graham in a receiving wasteland, I'm going with Gronk - injury risk be damned.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Brees has been a 5000 / 40 QB throughout Graham's career; Wilson has yet to throw for even 3500 yards, and threw 20 TDs last year. Seattle has been wildly successful with a smash mouth attack, and I don't see that changing. Graham would still be TE2 on my board, but he's now at the top of the deep non-Gronk 2nd tier. Plus, the points over baseline at the very top of the curve are where the value lies. I'd personally be cashing out on Graham's brand name now before he puts up 850 / 6 next year and is just another guy about to turn 30 next offseason.I am not sure I am in the Jimmy is in a regular TE1 camp. I think in TE premium it may hurt him because his volume may go down but I wouldn't be shocked if he is a TD machine in SEA. Anyway I do see why people are down on Jimmy but given the TE landscape I am not downgrading him to regular TE1 territory along with Olsen/Kelce/Bennett and whoever else is in there.I am open to being completely off on that though....I have no Jimmy shares anyway but he is getting affordable
I guess if SEA wants to pay a guy 10+M to do what they could get for 1/3rd the price that makes sense. Definitely could happen though and he isn't getting younger faster or healthier.
I see it like they are likely tiring of Lynch's act and preparing for life after Lynch. I sense a change coming in the northwest but am not Nostradamus. I mean they dumped most of their draft and a probowl Oline guy to improve their receiving options.
I see it like they are likely tiring of Lynch's act and preparing for life after Lynch. I sense a change coming in the northwest but am not Nostradamus. I mean they dumped most of their draft and a probowl Oline guy to improve their receiving options.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Yeah, but his actual NFL value is only loosely related to his FF value. The Seahawks can easily get their money's worth out of Graham without feeding him a NO level of targets. He'll be their best receiving weapon and make the passing game and offense as a whole more efficient. FF value is pretty much purely volume based; a lot more goes into actual NFL value.
One More Rep
Footballguy
II like Gordon sideblardorg said:
